The Tragic Fate Of Yhwach | The Fall Of The Quincy King CFYOW Analysis

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  • @jrgenvellesen7800
    @jrgenvellesen7800 2 роки тому +194

    I think there is a very intentional difference between Yhwach and his Father. Both of them could see the future and thus their fates. However, the Soul King, despite knowing what the Nobles were going to do to him, let it happen. Which I think is supposed to imply that he believed that the cycle of life and death was necessary, and that even if he would suffer for so long, he would eventually be freed by his son/Ichigo.
    Meanwhile, Yhwach wanted to change the world, and remove the concept of death, because he feared it. And because of that, he ultimately ended up suffering a fate WORSE than death.
    Which ties in nicely with Aizen’s speech about courage at the end of the manga. A world without death, might a Paradise in some ways, but also a world devoid of the concept of true progress.
    In short, accepting the inevitability and necessity of Death, will bring you far more peace then trying to defy and escape it, ever will.
    Which I feel is a very fitting message in a story that is all about life and death.

    • @LegendsAreLessons
      @LegendsAreLessons  2 роки тому +16

      Well said. We don't know the exact reasoning behind the soul king but that is a common theory that he saw it all and accepted it for the betterment of the world. That would be the best case scenario. The worst case scenario I could imagine is if he was coerced into it. Imagine if they held yhwach as a hostage or something. May not make sense in the timeline but it would help explain his hatred for soul reapers.
      Yhwachs goal sort of reminded me of lelouches dad from code geass he had a similar one. I believe Yhwach wanted to take the world back to what it was before the soul king was imprisoned. The fear of death makes sense but I feel yhwach feared what happened to the soul king even more. Perhaps he wanted to change the world so it doesn't happen to anyone else and the irony is it was him who was forced into it. I hope kubo expands more on his reasoning. Completely agree for the last line when it comes to humanity that is the best way to look at it.

  • @justinpachi3707
    @justinpachi3707 2 роки тому +214

    Ngl despite how cruel and evil YHWACH was by the end of the TYBW, even his enemies were disgusted by what happened to him. Harribel and Shunshui who were all sworn enemies to the Wandenreich all were disgusted by the ritual turning him into the new "Soul King."

    • @LegendsAreLessons
      @LegendsAreLessons  2 роки тому +63

      Exactly. Those were good examples you used. Shunsui lost his best friend and father figure ukitake and Yama. Haribel was tortured(I think) and held as a prisoner by the Quincy once they invaded hueco Mundo. They both had all the reasons to hate them but they still thought it was unsettling. Really shows how tragic the whole soul king dilemma is.

    • @strangerrshade3347
      @strangerrshade3347 2 роки тому +11

      @@LegendsAreLessons Reality Beyond Good and Evil until someone wants to change it then judged by so

    • @assassin971
      @assassin971 2 роки тому

      The original soul king deserved better, I don't give a damn about yhwach all his ally's became fodder for him fuck him

    • @227someguy
      @227someguy 2 роки тому

      @Essence of Bravery that was one of his first on-screen moments. I always think about that scene whenever someone tries to downplay Yhwach's villainy.

    • @Daviyah_yisrael
      @Daviyah_yisrael 2 роки тому +2

      @Essence of Bravery he’s not even evil y’all don’t even know what true evil is yhwach ain’t evil bro more like morally grey

  • @ninjastalesstudio
    @ninjastalesstudio 2 роки тому +44

    "That's right. Others; with special powers, including myself; appeared, but it is fair to say that the Rei-o stood out; his powers very close to omnipotence and omniscience." From ichibe.

  • @zrlegend
    @zrlegend 2 роки тому +27

    the dark part of this manga is actually putting yhawach as the villan and made him face the same fate as his father, but his back story shows how he gave lifes and faith to other, not for the sake of distroyng the world (soul society) , but for the sake of rescuing his father and ending his suffering , TITE KUBO is just genuis for cutting the classic basics of any manga that always villans looses , here we have that the villans actually won again , YET PEOPLE ASKS WHY BLEACH ONE OF THE BEST ANIME EVER

  • @nodatastored684
    @nodatastored684 2 роки тому +36

    It's crazy how he cursed the shinigami in the last chapters and most didn't realize he was seeing the future

    • @LegendsAreLessons
      @LegendsAreLessons  2 роки тому +8

      Yeah I am sure we will get a flashback of him saying all that again when all goes to hell in the next arc

    • @nodatastored684
      @nodatastored684 2 роки тому +5

      @@LegendsAreLessons yes his will, even entombed will still carry on as the previous soul king did

  • @ZzigZaG00NIN
    @ZzigZaG00NIN 2 роки тому +10

    He knows how it feels to be stuck in place for a long time without the power to do anything that’s how his life started and at how ended

  • @EmperorMist
    @EmperorMist 2 роки тому +38

    Damn this video is amazing, I knew I wasn't the only one that pitied Yhwach

    • @LegendsAreLessons
      @LegendsAreLessons  2 роки тому +2

      Thanks my friend! Yes hopefully this video brings out more Yhwach sympathizers haha

    • @RYOKUROSAKI-h4k
      @RYOKUROSAKI-h4k 2 роки тому +1

      @@LegendsAreLessons ᥬ😅᭄

  • @YuVen3487
    @YuVen3487 2 роки тому +9

    Ichigo: "You know... You could have just told us you had a god freezing macguffan arrow, probably would have saved us a lot of time and effort"
    Ishida: (adjusts glasses while posing) "Didn't see you complaining when you got a new bankai"
    Ichigo: "Which he busted, twice!"
    Ishida: (grins) "Yeah, kinda enjoyed that, not gna lie."
    Ichigo: "screw you Ishida."

  • @Castiel_01x
    @Castiel_01x 2 роки тому +8

    It's something minute. But Ichigo didn't actually understand Aizen after sealing him. Ichigo understood Aizen's emotions but everything else was just suggestions based on what he knows. But the thing is once we learn about Aizen's character, we realise Ichigo was right about the emotions but wrong about what Aizen's thoughts were due to lack of context.

  • @rayvonvelez3129
    @rayvonvelez3129 2 роки тому +10

    No one deserves a fate like that, especially if they didn't want it to happen to themselves. Soul king allowed this to happen to himself. But yhwach wanted to make sure it never happens to anyone again. But ichigo and uryu stop him and yhwach suffers the same fate as his father, at the hands of his own children ichigo and uryu. Such a tragic story.

    • @LegendsAreLessons
      @LegendsAreLessons  2 роки тому +3

      Indeed very tragic and it is often glossed over by most fans.

    • @N9r91
      @N9r91 Рік тому +1

      Fans do empathize with Yhwach by being robbed of a father, as well as Reio’s suffering, but we cannot ignore that he killed both Ichigo and Uryu’s mothers and many more of his followers/‘descendants.’

  • @deuntaethomas7437
    @deuntaethomas7437 2 роки тому +22

    Both shunsui and Ichibe were willing to do the same awful thing to Ichigo

    • @LegendsAreLessons
      @LegendsAreLessons  2 роки тому +4

      Yes I will talk about that in my next video soon. Should be out in a few days

  • @WeyardWiz
    @WeyardWiz 2 роки тому +22

    Ayo this video format is amazing! Very unique, well done!
    Also, the thumbnail is 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

    • @LegendsAreLessons
      @LegendsAreLessons  2 роки тому +2

      Thanks glad you enjoyed it! I really liked that artwork its cool as hell. I asked the artist if I could use it and I fit 3 of his pics in one.

  • @yorusuyasoul69420
    @yorusuyasoul69420 2 роки тому +9

    when being pirate king is not enough so u became an op Quincy boss as well

  • @jaiscott7168
    @jaiscott7168 2 роки тому +12

    The soul society got what it deserves The soul society is corrupted

  • @fdgoddemon4455
    @fdgoddemon4455 2 роки тому +15

    Shinigamis are actually the bad guys(ehem yamamoto and his war crimes) we just like them that's why they're the good guys in the story XD. Even Zommaris speech on "who are the shinigamis to judge who and who not to kill" really made them look like the baddies

    • @LegendsAreLessons
      @LegendsAreLessons  2 роки тому +6

      Yes haha the shinigami were the victors which is why they are considered to be right. If the quincy hollow or any other race prevailed history would have changed to fit their narrative. Often times, its the victors of war that are the most brutal and shinigami are no different

    • @RandomGuy-ci9nt
      @RandomGuy-ci9nt Рік тому

      Which Shinigami.
      Old
      New
      Sins of our Fathers?

    • @MrJamaigar
      @MrJamaigar 7 місяців тому

      It's been made clear at this point, just how morally gray/shady the shinigami are. All their enemies thus far (Aizen, Juha Bach and Tokinada) wanted each to alter the status quo, for their own reasons.
      And that's enough for the shinigami to immediately oppose them.
      Spoiler>/spoiler>
      Ichigo and co. have been played more than once: Urahara made Rukia the vessel of the Hogyokyu without her consent, he sent Ichigo and co. to the royal palace without telling them the vizards were going too (Hiyori gets pissed, and accuses him of sending them to slow down the enemy, which may've been the case.)
      Ichibe too was considering Ichigo as a potential Soul King replacement,
      (and Shunsui, poor bastard, offered to let Ichigo's classmates "visit him" in Soul Society; 😑 Ichibe probably told him the boy may've to stay, without elaborating any further.)
      Juha Bach absorbing the Soul King's remains was an unexpected turn that ended up working out for everyone involved.
      Yet, turning Juha into soul king might still come back to bite them; I mean, Juha Bach's potential return might even be the least of their problems, for all we know.
      Spoiler>/spoiler>

  • @andyzhang7890
    @andyzhang7890 2 роки тому +17

    Holy shit your content is insane, I feel like I’ve stumbled across a goldmine in the making

    • @LegendsAreLessons
      @LegendsAreLessons  2 роки тому +1

      Thank you for the kind words my friend🙏 Yes your right im going to do all I can to make that true💪 Just getting started plenty more to come 😈

  • @oreonero7807
    @oreonero7807 2 роки тому +23

    cool video man !! the effort you exerted is clearly shown and the flow of the video's just immaculate

  • @roscopcoltrane1489
    @roscopcoltrane1489 2 роки тому +9

    Very well done. Also nice reference at 5:17

  • @jsull81
    @jsull81 2 роки тому +9

    Cool video, and I like the use of "the Rains of Castamere" @5:17, it fits nicely!

    • @LegendsAreLessons
      @LegendsAreLessons  2 роки тому +1

      Thanks! I thought so too haha really fit the mood I was trying to capture.

  • @IchigosBestFriend
    @IchigosBestFriend 2 роки тому +3

    Wow, this was really accurate.very good stuff

  • @sageoverheaven
    @sageoverheaven 2 роки тому +4

    This channel's gonna be huge one day. Amazing content.

    • @LegendsAreLessons
      @LegendsAreLessons  2 роки тому +1

      Thanks glad you enjoyed it! I'll do what I can to make that true

  • @SageOfDestruction
    @SageOfDestruction 2 роки тому +4

    Bro this style is so unique!! the information, the explanation, and the timing is spot on!! You most definitely just earned yourself a sub :)

  • @BlueRoninArt
    @BlueRoninArt 2 роки тому +3

    Beautifully made video!

  • @toezie_wozies
    @toezie_wozies 2 роки тому +2

    dude your so underrated!! i love the edting style and the way you explained the story! ❤ keep up the great work

  • @CPriyansuParida
    @CPriyansuParida 2 роки тому +5

    Your channel's underrated, keep up the work!

  • @Mars-td7pb
    @Mars-td7pb 2 роки тому +5

    Man, most people think Bleach is just a kid's show.. but this is so dark man, nice video!

    • @LegendsAreLessons
      @LegendsAreLessons  2 роки тому +2

      Thanks man! Yes lots of dark themes in Bleach. Lots of great anime in general are deeper than people would like to think, happy to shed some light on it!

    • @Mars-td7pb
      @Mars-td7pb 2 роки тому +1

      @@LegendsAreLessons Right, especially what happened in the comics, we think the quincies are the enemies but to think the soul society has some dark secrets, namely Ichigo being the Soul King.

    • @LegendsAreLessons
      @LegendsAreLessons  2 роки тому

      @@Mars-td7pb For real. Each race has some dark secrets of its own. I am sure there is a lot we have yet to discover as well.

  • @tamaspataki9597
    @tamaspataki9597 2 роки тому +6

    I like Kubo's story. Bleach the story that has no heroes noir does it have villains. Fantastic, there is no clear line between evil and good.

  • @Manuel-gt9jf
    @Manuel-gt9jf 2 роки тому +4

    Man that Evangelion theme I wish it was used for yhwach it just fits him so much

    • @LegendsAreLessons
      @LegendsAreLessons  2 роки тому

      For real its perfect for him. I actually did an analysis video on it talking about why I think its the perfect theme for him check it out!

  • @ihateithere9298
    @ihateithere9298 2 роки тому +2

    Technically Yhwach got what he wanted.
    Immortality. Unable to die.

  • @Wid21425
    @Wid21425 2 роки тому +2

    I've just realized something when we look back to how yhwach was created the way he was created is more busted than any of his abilities everything that touches him become his that includes the sternriters as well so basically everyone will become part of him

    • @mellennia9
      @mellennia9 Рік тому

      Also how he already knew what it was like to be in the Kings position (in his case he was born without sight or any of his senses as well as the ability to move. Practically stillborn with the exception of still somehow being alive regardless). He's basically going straight back to that, but add half dead to the list

  • @fauzanabdulkahfi957
    @fauzanabdulkahfi957 Рік тому +1

    I really like your writting on your video good job dude!

    • @LegendsAreLessons
      @LegendsAreLessons  Рік тому

      Thanks! Check out the other videos in this series as well!

  • @LegendsAreLessons
    @LegendsAreLessons  2 роки тому +9

    The next video will be an extra one for my cfyow series. Im going to try to post more on here. Let me know what you all think about this editing style for this vid I have been looking to change things up.

    • @justinpachi3707
      @justinpachi3707 2 роки тому +1

      Your editing game really stepped up for this video. What software are you using to make some of these edits?

    • @LegendsAreLessons
      @LegendsAreLessons  2 роки тому +1

      @@justinpachi3707 Thanks appreciate it! I use a bunch tbh I'm hopping around to see what's the best. Used alot of after effects and premiere pro for this vid, but also a bit of sony Vegas and capcut.

    • @taelir8599
      @taelir8599 2 роки тому +2

      Everything from the editing, music choice to the subjects you discuss is on point for me
      I am really existed for more manga material to come out (and anime of course) since bleach youtube is really growing big with all the deep theory and lore channels coming up

    • @LegendsAreLessons
      @LegendsAreLessons  2 роки тому +1

      @@taelir8599 Thanks for letting me know! Lots to come, editing takes long af as you can imagine lol but the scripts and stuff are pretty much done for future vids. Im excited for bleach's return too, really hope kubo brings back the manga.

    • @bhaskarimalla5137
      @bhaskarimalla5137 2 роки тому

      Can you make a video on why kisuke didn’t give hogyoku to ichigo . Kisuke told in cfyow that he can’t give it to him as it disrupts the balance or something

  • @takasaga2395
    @takasaga2395 2 роки тому +5

    Holy fk this vid was soo good

    • @takasaga2395
      @takasaga2395 2 роки тому +2

      Seriusly such a lovely vid so good i have to share this. Well composed video yhwach is a character that i even like more than johan liebert and light yagami. But truly sad how the antagonist was not the monster but arguably the soul reapers forcing this world to continue through endless torture :(

    • @LegendsAreLessons
      @LegendsAreLessons  2 роки тому +1

      Thank you my friend! Yes this is a side that many don't ever contemplate I am glad to hear you enjoyed the video!

  • @Pfuture111
    @Pfuture111 2 роки тому +4

    "are the soul reapers really the good one?" well it depends on the individual bro. not all of them because they're all different person. They're all soul reapers but they can only be recognized as good or bad through their actions. what happened in the past has nothing to do with the current soul reapers. The soul reapers in the past are complete different persons. If a group of dogs bite a human, it isn't right to say that all "dogs" are evil. The good ones have nothing to do what the evil ones have done in the past because if for example your father is a thief, does that also make you a thief even though you haven't done anything like your father did?

  • @ChillDeathgod
    @ChillDeathgod 2 роки тому +11

    Damn so Yhwatch suffered a fate worse than Death

    • @LegendsAreLessons
      @LegendsAreLessons  2 роки тому +4

      Yeah pretty much. He suffered the worst fate possible.

    • @j-core2895
      @j-core2895 Місяць тому

      I really wish he could have avoided his fate 😔

  • @theeditorguy6879
    @theeditorguy6879 2 роки тому +3

    This was the first videonive seen of yours and it made me binge all your content I'm glad I found you before you blow up like you will! If your hiring a video editor I'd love to work with anime content!

    • @LegendsAreLessons
      @LegendsAreLessons  2 роки тому

      Thanks! I don't have the funds to hire anyone at this point but I appreciate the gesture!

    • @theeditorguy6879
      @theeditorguy6879 2 роки тому

      @@LegendsAreLessons well if you do in the future can I call dibs haha your picking up momentum dont quit ! Lol

  • @shawnboahene5231
    @shawnboahene5231 24 дні тому

    It’s a well edited video, but the direction of trying to make Yhwach sympathetic is weird. Then again, I’m posting this after the light novels and stuff came out so hindsight is 20/20.
    In Can’t Fear Your Own World (CFYOW) it was revealed that when the soul king was still around and killing hollows left and right the balance was in turmoil because he completely destroyed them. If the Quincy had their way it still wouldn’t work as their abilities are a natural threat to balance that stabilizes existence. Soul reapers purify the Hollows while Quincies flat out destroy them. Which causes issues.
    Then there is the fact that Quinces, namely, Yhwach were the aggressors of the conflict. The soul reapers tried to reason with them only for the Quincy to refuse a peace pact and they invaded the Soul Society like the anime depicted. Leading them into their own slaughter.
    Yhwach has been the sole reason of mass Quincy death. From the war to killing the remaining Quincy to restore his powers, to using it to wipe out the majority of his forces. He has to ensure their deaths as their souls fuel him. If ever stops absorbing souls he goes back to that comatose state. The war is basically to alleviate his own fear of death

    • @LegendsAreLessons
      @LegendsAreLessons  24 дні тому

      Thank you for the comment. The "sympathetic angle" was intended. I reccomend checking out the cfyow intro video I did. There I explain the different themes I cover in all these videos. Essentially, I made these videos to 1. Explain what happenened in cfyow and 2. Explore moral ambiguity of the characters. Villains and heroes are often quite similar and are sometimes only seperated by circumstance, character traits and so on. But in bleach I found the fine line between villian and heroes to be closer than other series so that is something I explored in these videos. There are other main themes I discuss in these videos and they have evolved as time went on but that intro video should explain the objective of these videos better if you still find it to be weird.
      From what I remember the world of the soul king did not have different realms. It was all one place so the stability of the world was not much of an issue compared to know. Through the soul king the world was split into realms where the balance was needed for it to function like this.
      So in a way, a new world was created in which the quincy had no place in it. Them killing hollows will disrupt the balance of the world and if that was done enough, the world would revert back to how it originally was. So yhwach and the quincy sought the original world without the soul kings powers being used to create seperate realms, one where apparently death does not exist. They are fighting for the old world, a world where they have a place in, and perhaps yhwach really wanted to free the soul king. All of this is not to say one world was better than the other. It was just to better understand where yhwach was coming from, to show that he didn't just want to destroy the world because he could or he was crazy like your default villian. However, everything I mentioned earlier about fighting for the old world, soul king etc could have been a cover and perhaps yhwach just used that to go to war with the quincy for his own selfish reasons.
      Also, the fear of death scene in the anime was not around when this video was made. I believe that was an anime only scene. Yes yhwach does have many "villainous" actions throughout the series that I did not include in the video. I didn't feel like I needed to include that since most knew. That side was talked about by everyone and so this was a perspective that did not get talked about and something this series focused on. In my recent cfyow videos I have started to discuss both sides to make it a more cohesive video.

  • @jettank4803
    @jettank4803 2 роки тому +7

    but if Ichigo killed him after Yhwach was temporarily unable to use his powers then how could yhwach's remnants be around and if it was then why didn't he just get revived because if you think about it the very thing that disabled his powers was only in use for longer than like I think it was 1 to 2 seconds or a very short period of time and then it wouldn't work anymore.

    • @rexeno
      @rexeno 2 роки тому +7

      Alr, u know that black thing that was on him with all the eyes? Those kept dripping off him and those were remnants of him, they can't revive him, but they are a part of him

    • @JordanJ_CPT
      @JordanJ_CPT 2 роки тому +3

      pretend yuhas a pc they didnt turn him on just used him for scrap metal,

    • @LegendsAreLessons
      @LegendsAreLessons  2 роки тому +4

      None of that was stated so it is up to interpretation. He probably wasn't dead and if he was, he had the soul kings powers within him so maybe it was still strong enough to function. He was probably put in a state similar to the soul king, on the brink of life and death and sealed off.

    • @rexeno
      @rexeno 2 роки тому +2

      @@LegendsAreLessons u basically just said an explained version of my theory

    • @LegendsAreLessons
      @LegendsAreLessons  2 роки тому +4

      @@rexeno Yeah the reply was for Jet I didn't read yours at the time. Its probably the soul kings powers that are alive and Yhwach is probably in a coma or something.

  • @davewindburn
    @davewindburn 2 роки тому +31

    Yhwach is one of my favourite villains of all time. It genuinely breaks my heart how unfair his fate is, considering his truly righteous ambitions. People think he was a tyrant, but everyone forgets about his terrible curse he's had since birth. There was a clear reason why he had to kill so many of his people, because it was the only way for him to continue to live. He was the only one who could avenge his father and his people, to destroy the MESS those ancient shinigami created after having betrayed The Soul King. And now he's forced to protect everything he swore to destroy.
    I may be the only one who thinks so, but, in my opinion, shinigami is the worst and most disgusting race in the Bleach universe. I sincerely hope that the next arc will leave nothing but scraps from them.

    • @LegendsAreLessons
      @LegendsAreLessons  2 роки тому +10

      He is incredibly underrated because it does take some thought to understand his side. Hopefully, this video helps others understand it more.
      Often time the victors or the rulers are the most treacherous and destructive. Our history is no different I feel the shinigami represent it well.

    • @gogozeppeli9267
      @gogozeppeli9267 2 роки тому +1

      Our mc is allied to the shinigami

    • @deuntaethomas7437
      @deuntaethomas7437 2 роки тому +2

      Terrence Rosebloom my sentiments too. There is a reason why his shinigami powers are represented as a demon

    • @Adrian_sthenics
      @Adrian_sthenics 2 роки тому

      @@deuntaethomas7437 ikr

    • @ajgintaosveri
      @ajgintaosveri 2 роки тому +2

      Absolutely agree with you! more than half of the troubles in the world, including the enmity with the Quincy, happened precisely because of the Shinigami, but very often they even refused to admit it. Reyo did nothing wrong to them, but they decided to seal him. Ichigo trusted them and saved them more than once, but they were still ready to kill him. When I rewatched Bleach, it was even unpleasant for me to look at them. Even Hollows are more human.

  • @justsomestruggler9635
    @justsomestruggler9635 2 роки тому +3

    Not related but goddamn that editing, what software did you use for editing?

    • @LegendsAreLessons
      @LegendsAreLessons  2 роки тому

      Used a few different softwares tbh. Most of it done through after effects and Premiere though

  • @AnimeLife-mp2id
    @AnimeLife-mp2id 2 роки тому +2

    3:30 I know it’s the same composer but that’s Evangelion 2.22

    • @LegendsAreLessons
      @LegendsAreLessons  2 роки тому +2

      Yeah Fate is an amazing theme. I made a video explaining why I think it's the perfect theme for Yhwach as well check it out!

  • @hardwork.........
    @hardwork......... Рік тому +1

    that thing could also be ichigo

  • @raynarksatriawibowo6688
    @raynarksatriawibowo6688 2 роки тому +2

    So they're preparing ichigo & his offspring as a soul king substitution ?

    • @LegendsAreLessons
      @LegendsAreLessons  2 роки тому +1

      Yes in a sense Ichigo is next in line if something happens

  • @AnimeLife-mp2id
    @AnimeLife-mp2id 2 роки тому +3

    5:40 Rains of Castamere?

    • @LegendsAreLessons
      @LegendsAreLessons  2 роки тому +1

      Yes! I felt it fit the sad mood I was trying to portray😁

  • @demonslayereren3970
    @demonslayereren3970 2 роки тому +6

    Aizen did nothing wrong

  • @KON853
    @KON853 2 роки тому +8

    Didn't Juha get freed in the hell arc as said by Szayel, or am I forgetting something?

    • @LegendsAreLessons
      @LegendsAreLessons  2 роки тому +13

      No he is the current soul king, unless he got replaced after cfyow which I don't think is likely. Granz mentioned how he had crazy spiritual powers and his defeat upset the balance of the world from what I remember I think that's what you are referring too.

    • @KON853
      @KON853 2 роки тому +5

      @@LegendsAreLessons Ah yes that's true I think. I'm gonna have to reread the chapter after I Finnish rereading the series. I'm just finishing up the arrancar arc.

    • @LegendsAreLessons
      @LegendsAreLessons  2 роки тому +3

      @@KON853 Nice! I really enjoyed my second run through of bleach, noticed and appreciated so many things that I didn't the first time around.

    • @KON853
      @KON853 2 роки тому +5

      @@LegendsAreLessons that's fax bro. After I finnished the Rukia vs Arroniero fight, I literally had to sit there and think “How the heck do people think Bleach fell off and Soul society is the peak of bleach”.

    • @LegendsAreLessons
      @LegendsAreLessons  2 роки тому +3

      @@KON853 Maybe they watched the anime. Fillers slowed things up but the manga was straight 🔥 throughout

  • @sungjin-woo8298
    @sungjin-woo8298 Рік тому +1

    I mean now he isnt the soul king right his vestiges dispapered.right?

    • @LegendsAreLessons
      @LegendsAreLessons  Рік тому

      No he still is the Soul King, but his remaining remnants around the world have disappeared from what we know. He carried so much power that it scattered to all over.

  • @gungatz6696
    @gungatz6696 2 роки тому +3

    Fun fact: In OG hebrew God is only ever actually called YHWE, to this day people still have no idea how to pronounce this name.

    • @LegendsAreLessons
      @LegendsAreLessons  2 роки тому

      Yeah you can arguably say the same about Yhwach too hahah

  • @HansPeter-iv9ck
    @HansPeter-iv9ck 2 роки тому +4

    I was never stated that Yhwach is dead and we saw Ichigos Son killing off one of Yhwachs last remains but we can assume he indeed is dead because Shunsui and Ichibe said that Yhwach only is an temporary solution. The whole reason why they brought up Ichigo is because they know that Yhwachs corpse wont hold that long.
    However the thing is can you even kill Yhwach ?
    I mean considering his power he proved that there are multiple versions of him because he always switched the here and now where he died with another version of himself where he didnt die. So in the end our Heroes only killed the Yhwach of their dimension and timeline. This is further proved by the remains Ichigos Son removed from the wall. If Yhwach is dead this cant be his power however its possible that another Yhwach just took a little peek into this dimension and countered the Arrow in his timeline.
    So the question is can you truly kill a person that excists in millions,billions or even trillions of different timelines at once ? We also dont know how Yhwach is "connected" with his other selves. His claim that he simply changes the current outcome by changing the future means that he was in full control of his self in the other timeline. That means while Yhwachs body in this timeline is used as Soul King its possible his mind just went to another version of himself. I mean if our Yhwach would truly die then all Quincys as a result would lose their powers because he granted his powers to them. And given the fact Ichigo still has all his powers and Ishida does aswell means Yhwach indeed isnt dead. And the fact that Shunsui and Ichibe suggested to use Ichigo means that they know fully well that Yhwach isnt dead because Ichigo would lose his powers when Yhwach dies making him useless as Soul King.
    So i guess Yhwachs fate isnt as bad as you believe because only his body is there. What is a body to a person with possibly infinite versions of himself ? For Yhwach thats nothing more then whats losing an arm was for Ulquiorra.......just get a new one.

    • @YuVen3487
      @YuVen3487 2 роки тому +2

      Interesting hypothesis, though I'd like to point out that by stating he simply "changed the future" it implies one singular timeline rather than multiple arcing futures.
      I think that the almighty allows him to see all the potential possibilities which allows him to cherry pick how things are going to pan out rather than body swapping into multiple versions of himself, if that were the case then Kubo would have put an emphasis on it at some point in the manga.
      Also, I kinda think that going down that road reeks of lazy storytelling, Yuwach has (imo at least) borderline omniscience rather than omnipotence.

    • @HansPeter-iv9ck
      @HansPeter-iv9ck 2 роки тому +3

      @@YuVen3487
      It is lazy storytelling and you can see that the last Arc was rushed as fuck.
      For example:
      Against Ichibe Yhwach explain that "No attack he has seen can be used to hurt him let alone kill him."
      Against Ichigo he explains that he looks into hundrets if not thousands of possible futures and as you stated "cherry picks" the one he likes. He also uses that ability to see attacks from different timelines making them useless against him in the original timeline.
      So now here is the deal.
      If Yhwach cant even be hurt by anything he has seen....how did he get killed by attacks he has seen ? He should have even seen the Arrow coming for him rendering it useless aswell.
      Yhwach suffers from the Madara syndrom. A Character so overpowerd you need to make up some BS to get rid of him. Yhwach was pretty much unkillable at this point given the fact he watches everyone for years and knew all of their attacks making all of them useless against him.

    • @YuVen3487
      @YuVen3487 2 роки тому +2

      @@HansPeter-iv9ck With respect, that's not lazy writing. He didn't actually see any of that with the Almighty because of Kuyga Suigetsu, Aizen even says that it blinds his Schrift, that's why Kubo didn't kill him off two arcs previously. That isn't writing himself into a corner, like with madara, that's planning the end years beforehand.
      We all know he had to rush the plot due to publication issues and I agree that a bunch of useful exposition got axed to save time but your example is a flawed one.
      Using the multiple timeline trope in fiction is de-facto lazy unless you apply a strict rule set to it (see any star trek episode that deals with it for an example of how not to do it) that's why I said that Kubo didn't establish it as a thing in Bleach. it means that anything that ever happens in the plot can be easily retconned without much effort (like you suggested in your op that Yuwach is basically unkillable)
      in fact your proof of this is Ichigo's son beating an aspect of Yuwach, which is better explained by the fact that he absorbed the soul King, including Mimihagi (whose powers represent stillness)
      better to use the established narrative, in this case either a piece of the soul Kings powers (which Yuwach made his own) or a piece of himself frozen by Mimihagi, rather than inserting a multiple timeline analogy which isn't represented at all in the manga.
      You are onto something about Yuwach not being dead though. Ishida and Ichigo have Quincy powers, as stated in Yuwach's backstory, any Quincy who dies sends that portion of Yuwach's soul back to him, so there's that at least. I also agree with the power creep. Yuwach is a ridiculously OP fictional character, kinda needed to be after the whole Aizen Hogyaku thing.

    • @HansPeter-iv9ck
      @HansPeter-iv9ck 2 роки тому

      @@YuVen3487
      You got a point with Suigetsu. However Suigetsu did not harm Yhwach. Yhwach said attacks he saw cant hurt let alone kill him and Suigetsu did none of that.
      Also he could have seen that Aizen uses Suigetsu on him when he looks into the future so it kinda makes no sense that Suigetsu worked on him when Yhwachs ability is the ultimate spoiler alert. I mean you literally cant surprise him yet Kubo just made it happen.
      So yeah maybe he cant see Suigetsu directly but when i look into the future and i see that stabbed Aizen while a sneaky little brat is abut to shoot me in the back i would assume i do something about it in the present timeline. It was never explained how Suigetsu affects his Almighty but when you cant see certain portion of your future then there aint many possible options why.
      Its kinda sad tho that Kubo added so many BS characters:
      - Barragan (got killed by bs)
      - Yami....walking pile of bs.
      - Gerhard (only Yhwach can kill him)
      - Yhwach unkillable Nazi Jesus.
      I mean. Havin one character where you make that mistake is something that can happen.....but Kubo did it 4 times.

    • @YuVen3487
      @YuVen3487 2 роки тому

      @@HansPeter-iv9ck Agreed there, even Aizen was surprised that it actually worked on him, although the point of it plot line wise was to blind him to the macguffan arrow by Ishida which froze him and nullified his Almighty for ichigo to deliver the final blow, which Yuwach did see but couldn't figure out how it actually happened, a few panels show him pondering over it, hence why he shattered ichigo's zanpakuto twice because he was basically afraid of it. So, technically from Yuwach's perspective there was a gap in his prescience from the moment Aizen squared up to him right up until ichigo finished him with his true bankai.
      I'd argue that Kubo wasn't certain of the exact details of how Aizen would help to finish off Yuwach but he did plan far enough ahead to have that in mind, which is a hellova lot better than the "oh shit I gta end madara but I didn't think this far ahead" asspull that was black zetsu in Naruto.
      Yeah he did drop the ball on a fair few fights to be fair and I think you missed one aswell, Lilliebarro and the zanpakuto that just so happened to be able to reflect light and was built to slay gods, mighty convenient that one! I did like the theme of that fight though, depicting the bad guy as an angel, I do like Kubo's tenancy to reverse roles like that.
      Although a fair few fights made up for it, Ichigo vs Ulquiorra was a real "kyuubi moment", Yuwach vs old man yammy was hyped since the soul society arc, Ichigo vs Aizen was just cathartic as hell after a whole 3 arcs of Aizen flexing and Gremmy vs kempachi was fun to read and had an unexpected ending.
      Overall I'd say Kubo isn't a bad writer he's just annoyingly inconsistent.

  • @ArdynLucisCaelum47
    @ArdynLucisCaelum47 2 роки тому

    Bro where can i get the gif used in the beginning of the video

    • @LegendsAreLessons
      @LegendsAreLessons  2 роки тому +1

      I edited a fan art so it's not a gif. Not sure if I still have the video though

  • @Zefanya-Teki
    @Zefanya-Teki 2 роки тому

    What did Shunsui and Ichibei discuss?

  • @joseaponte1037
    @joseaponte1037 2 роки тому

    Fix your mic positioning man great vid tho

    • @LegendsAreLessons
      @LegendsAreLessons  2 роки тому

      Was the video hard to hear?

    • @Manusia.satu1
      @Manusia.satu1 2 роки тому +1

      @@LegendsAreLessons Your video sounds great for me. Don't change anything

  • @basedchump
    @basedchump 2 роки тому +2

    damn

  • @ASYLUM_fz
    @ASYLUM_fz 2 роки тому

    I’m only on episode 125 and it seems like it’s going to be another anime that ends horribly unless I’m wrong the anime is good but I just can’t stand when people end their anime horribly instead of making everything good at the end

    • @LegendsAreLessons
      @LegendsAreLessons  2 роки тому

      Anime isn't done yet so can't say. Also depends on what you mean end horribly not sure what you referring too.

  • @marcosorduno9203
    @marcosorduno9203 2 роки тому +2

    I thought aizen became the new soul king like always wanted

    • @LegendsAreLessons
      @LegendsAreLessons  2 роки тому +2

      Nope Aizen still chillin in his jail cell

    • @ChillDeathgod
      @ChillDeathgod 2 роки тому

      Aizen wanted to change the orders of Death he hated the Soul king retrial

  • @vixinitydbz
    @vixinitydbz Рік тому +2

    Ok twogram tablesalt, no need to pretendto be a ytb

    • @LegendsAreLessons
      @LegendsAreLessons  Рік тому

      😂 you got me. Although I change my alias everyday so no1 catches me. I now go by the name of yugoslavia asphalt for today that is.

  • @kylietalks5286
    @kylietalks5286 2 роки тому

    The content was good but the way you deliver it is so boring

    • @LegendsAreLessons
      @LegendsAreLessons  2 роки тому +1

      What would make it more entertaining?

    • @devoruslewis561
      @devoruslewis561 2 роки тому +10

      @@LegendsAreLessons nothing dont listen to this person. It's a dark video your voice shouldnt be excited or energetic, the way you calmly delivered such a sad tale got my attention and I literally had to listen to the whole thing because it was so entertaining. They aren't trying to help you improve they just want to be a nuisance. Keep up the good work man. This is the first video I've ever seen of yours and I cant wait till the next. Subscribed!

    • @karma1507
      @karma1507 2 роки тому +5

      I like it how it is

    • @LegendsAreLessons
      @LegendsAreLessons  2 роки тому +3

      @@devoruslewis561 Thanks for the kind words my friend! I released the next part of this vid yesterday check it out!

    • @LegendsAreLessons
      @LegendsAreLessons  2 роки тому +3

      @@karma1507 🙏

  • @Culfi
    @Culfi 2 роки тому +2

    Yes, now the rains weep o'er his hall..and not a soul to hear.