Richard Hammond Talks Top Gear Argentina - Alan Carr: Chatty Man
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. Richard Hammond talk about the horrific time the crew from Top Gear had whilst filming the Christmas Argentina Special, going form filming the beautiful country to having road blocks destroying the camera crews cars.
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my neighbours licence plate says NYT911. does that mean they were involved with the attacks? should i tell the police? or should i just realise the fact that its a DAM LICENCE PLATE AND GET OVER IT.
+Alisha Moss in fact the whole police car is painted in 911
and no civilians throw rock at it lol
+Andrew Timothy that is so true never thought of that lol our numbers different here for police
+Alisha Moss] That's actually one pretty fucked up licence plate! Funny though!
Asa Holmes nope, just a license plate
+Alisha Moss It would be USA, Argentina and Mexico. Because by the same logic, they were attacked in the least populated place in Argentina.
_"Your license plate offends me, I'm going to kill you with my angry mob now"_ - That's the logic being used.
Because Trump is the brightest...
psygn0sis That"s an interesting statement, coming from someone who mixes letters and numbers in his user name. And it was the 3 cars that contained war-related data on their plates you idiot.
Hey idiot, people in Patagonia come from all over Europe, not Spain.
cintia Licciardello three cars? Funny it was only Jeremy’s car with the plates, it weird that you’d assume all three had the “offensive” plates. Tis almost as if you haven’t watched the show, but instead you’ve jumped on a bandwagon
Pablo Podhorzer okay then let’s call them Patagonians, these Patagonians seem to be very upset at a war that happened three decades ago, who cares about it anymore, who should? Not an entire damn country that’s for sure
They agreed to leave and as they were leaving people tried to kill the crew. Then Argentina was all oooh don't show it. Well we saw it and it was despicable behavior
TomboTheTornado
I was actually against that war. Based on the chain of events, it's clear that people were killed because Thatcher wanted to win an election. No other reason. So people will likely think I'm about to sympathise with the Argentinians on this matter.
Nope. They over-reacted.
I agree with you completely. They tried to have it covered up. Pathetic.
@хнопыть
No doubt they did. But my comment is entirely about Thatcher. The Argentinians were heading away. The ones on the Islands would have had no choice but to surrender and face a penalty.
Thatcher put paid to that.
there are good people and bad people, those progama drivers are disgusting they made fun of my country for the discriminatory grizzly malvinas conflict, they didn't bring us good vibes they made fun they deserved a kick in the ass
@@DavidAndrewsPEC It's a shame the bitch didn't die 87 years ago.
And local police just said "fuck it!" and let protesters smash their cars etc.
Welcome to Argentina.
You're welcome to my country any time...but don't fuck with us or you'll be fucked...don't try to be funny where funny doesn't exists...is really that funny that no producers and even Clarkson Hammond or May noticed those license plates...?.
the license plates don't say anything about it. its only you people that made the big stretch. you people fucked with people from another country. you people are just butthurt
Only ignorant idiots make a big deal of plates by using reverse logic on them. Made the entire country of Argentina look like inbred fucks, good show.
The police actually tried to stop them, but the Argentinians get quite upset when it comes to the Falklands because they lost.
Alejandro Lopez: The UK could demolish your entire country if they wanted to, so please keep your stinky mouth shut. This is bullshit get over it.
The bit that really got me was when the Argentinian ambassador in London demanded that the BBC and Top Gear apologise for the incident but if you ask me the people who need to apologise were the Argentinians. Yes it was a war, and people died I'm not trying to diminish that (my uncle was almost killed on Goose Greene) but the reaction was totally out of proportion and if it were me I would flatly refuse to apologise until the Argentinians did. They hounded a crew out of the country and all things considered it could've got serious and violent. A total and utter overreaction.
Ally Todd Totally agree, it’s a harrowing watch especially as someone who works on production crews, all I could think was ‘they only wanted a job and now idiots are trying to murder them’ despite following the demands of the Argentinians.
It makes all Argentines look bad even the ones who don’t agree with this idiocy .
In all fairness they shouldnt have done the thing with the plate. I dont think Hammond or May were on this. This was clearly Jeremy Clarkson;s idea. Others think it was coincidence but I bet my ass it was Clarkson who planned to buy that car even before coming to Argentina. The others were not aware about it.
He either saw that car on the Internet or someone told him about it way before. You see how Hammond says- they wanted THAT CAR model in specific and I bet Clarkson was the one who asked for THAT specific model.
Also Argentinians are sensitive about The Falklands because they lost the war. So Britain cant demand someone to apologize for still being angry over a lost war. Just for comparison: 9/11 was not even a war and only 3000 Americans died and yet Americans are still angry af about it. They were so pissed they set the whole middle east on fire.
So it is in bad taste to accuse someone for feeling angry over a lost war or for being humiliated. National pride was hurt that day- it was not just a war for them. They dislike the British a lot and I cant blame them. The British and Americans are hard to like because both are arrogant twats.
You ask too much from Argentinians. After all it was not them who invited Top Gear there so u cant ask anyone to apologize for not wanting strangers in their home.
People have a right to be jerks to uninvited guests anyway. You cant ask a host to apologize when u werent invited there even .
@Thibault Derese the CIA backed military dictatorship****
@@robotube7361 the registration plate for that exact car was registered in 1991 (use DVLA REG plate checker to check). Meaning that years before he was even recruited to the TV show jeremy would have had to buy that car and registration plate, on the off chance that decades later he would use it to possibly piss off some idiots in Argentina.
Are you really that basic? The show bought the car for filming a few weeks before they began filming, there's 2 of them in the UK. They didn't change the REG plate because in all of human history up to that point, nobody has been offended by 3 letters on a car REG plate.
To suggest otherwise makes you look foolish at best.
Thank you Richard for speaking up for the crew members that were attacked, followed, blocked and mobbed in the middle of the night by irrational veterans because of an imagined slight.
It wasn't actually the veterans who kept on roadblocking and assaulting the crew...they protested when the TG guys arrived, the rest was done by people who, probably, only read about the war, or heard some propaganda...which is way, way worse.
Leslie Elaine I love you blonde
M Zaid Sorry, have we met? Seen me with a different hair colour?
the funny thing is that you have no idea about what really happened, as USA is know for having ignorant people. I once met a woman who strongly holded that the mediterranean sea is in the golf of mexico hahahahahahahahahaaaah
Tony Kelley
"golf" of Mexico. Oh the irony. You calling out supposed ignorance. The reality is that everyone is perfectly aware of what happened in Argentina, and it wasn't Top Gear's fault. BTW, I'm not American or British (or Irish).
well said hammond, well said. The fact that they were more worried about their crew rather than themselves says alot about them!!!
I am argentinian and i love top gear and feel ashamed about the incidents . The people who threw rocks do not represent us.
It was a shame a really nice special had to end like that, just because some people don't seem to understand a car gets a certain license plate when it leaves the factory, and keeps that same plate untill the day it's scrapped.
Well, you wouldn't see anything wrong with it, Argentians have an impeccable moral compass, considering they welcomed quite a few Nazis. So something as nondescript as gloating on the Falklands war is a non-issue. Btw are you an Argentian from Europe or are you indigenous
@Kenia-sn1cg what country are you from, that you can accuse Argentinians as a whole of having a flawed moral compass?
CIPAYIN
Don’t worry I only think the people who were throwing the rocks are salty weak losers.
South America, one of the worlds most beautiful continents, but balanced out by being populated by some of the worlds worst humans. In this instance Argentina took its opportunity on the worlds most watched television program to show that to a global audience. Skills
Have you forgot what the empires of Spain, Portugal, and Britain have done to latinamerica ? yeah i guess you have no idea what you people have done to us, and still do, but how could you if you dont live here.
Read a litle bit my friend, take a moment and try to see the things from our side and see what europe has done to latinamerica, exploit us, slaughter us, take all our sources and built empires with them.
So forgive us if we are still a bit angry about a tv show who still have the nerve to come and make references to a very sensitive subject,
***** thats the problem tho you guys cant forget and forgive, and they did not even say anything about that war
Sounds like victim mentality to me, I'm sorry, thats no excuse. Argentina is the main offender in a continent of poor ethics. The way the protesters behaved was disproportionate and unjustified, their actions have rightly left their country in disgrace.
***** I´m sure clarkson hammond and may personally ordered the royal army to kill argentinians.
Róbert Németh That is a highschool argument, what would you say to an american who goes to japan and drives around in a car with the number plates making alusions to agust 6? feel free to google the date, top gear have make subliminal jokes since always, that's Clarkson's comedy.
argentina people are so sensitive. their country isn't the only country that has lost a war. Top Gear is watched by millions of people around the world. Argentina made itself look bad.
Even when Top Gear went to Iraq there was no animosity whatsoever, despite Britain's involvement in the Iraq war.
electric feel but thats not all that happened speak facts not stupidity
I have a Peppa Pig t-shirt aboard Sir Galahad fishing with Simon West.
In this occasion, i agree with you. If Argetinians getting "Trigerred" by one conflict with one country, my country are literally has been colonized countless times by western countries & Japan (Including British themselves) in the past. But today, we didn't rely on those "Dark Times" too much so we could take it as part of history and lesson for the future
@@DingDingTheUA-camBuddy Not quite. I mean, did my name sounds Korean?
be mad at them for "picking a dodgy serial plate" fine! Kick them out of the country, fine! But why the hell would you continue to follow them and attack the crew? They were really nasty and Im so glad that they included that bit! It's wrong on so many levels
TheCandiMonster because they are small minded and that is all small minded people know how to do .. is hate and violence. I think it was just an excuse to act up.
@@med77m26 And that's probably why they can't move on with the modern world
They're uneducated and looking for a fight. Makes them feel strong out numbering them 100:1
You know something, the BBC and the British government need to demand an apology from Argentina. Now listen up and read before you mash the reply button. UN Appendix 1 Article 4 of the Global Code of Ethics for Tourism requires the host country to protect foreigners and their possessions. Argentina is a signatory to this, and as such is beholden to be upheld to this standard. They didn't live up to their obligations, the Top Gear crew committed no crimes, and the records show that the license plate was an honest mistake. It was offensive but that does not provide Argentina the excuse to allow them to fall into this kind of danger. And the fact that Argentina, as is typical of their government, pointed the finger away from their own shortcomings in their obligations to international law, and had the audacity to demand an apology from the BBC. Absolutely deplorable.
+Zach Zier The nation of Argentina did not assault the camera crews. Those attacks were conducted by several individuals who got pissed off at a mistake. The nation can't be held responsible for their actions, which in fact are against the nation's law.
+TheRoopeKonna even more. The government of Argentina had to protect them with the police to get out of that without any harm. So mission accomplished.
+TheRoopeKonna Also the police protect them to leave that situation without any harm. Mission accomplished.
Even if the numberplate wasn't a coincidence it is fucking pathetic
Take a look at how the argentinian people treat british artists when they come to the country and then you write all the shit you want.
"Was it scary?" "No.. it was quite alright actually, I fancied inviting them over for a cup of tea and some scones whilst we chatted about the war and politics.... " of course it was scary ffs.
And the army of Argentina used their most effective weapons
Eggs and rocks
You are clearly another example of inbreeding marriage
Hey brayden
Lets see how you would handle rock to the face
@@strafniki1080
Would definitely do less damage than a bullet
No wonder they lost that war 😅
Alan Carr talks about this way better then how absolute radio talked to James. Absolute made James sound like a serial killer where as Alan actually listens to what happened and asked sensible questions
I am a absolutely huge fan of top gear ,and have been for years,I thought that the stack in Alabama was bad ,but this is horrific.i feel for the crew and there family's ,as well as Jeremy,James and Richard for what a stupid numberplate can do. A roadblock and having to get a police escort is a bit outrageous.🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧
The police didn't do shit either during the attacks.
Adam Hart yeah
Adam Hart To be fair there was nothing they could do. They would have had to dispatch a huge amount of officers and SWAT to handle the mob. There was over 300 protesters in Rio Grande so the crew crossed a river illegally into Chile to avoid the town.
Shane Earley Yeah, good point.
Although I think what those nationalists Argentinians did were wrong after watching so many episodes and trips of Top Gear and seeing Jeremy Clarkson mocking every country and every human being on earth I think there's a possiblity those plates were made by the Top Gear team just as a joke but eventually everything went really bad, as we know.
I love Top Gear, they won't let a few angry Argentines and journalists get in the way.
Keep offending people, Keep travailing the world and keep making your brilliant shows!!!
Hell they've put Chilean flags in the background of every episode in series 22 so far as a up yours to some of them.
Not sure about the offending bit's tho. As long as it parts of little joke, it probably alright
It wasn’t even deliberate. The plate was on the car from new. The car is an H reg
And I've thought Argentina's a civilised country..
your gonna judge a whole country of 45 million habitants, because of 1 mob made up of 15 people?..smart
It was more like several hundred, if you actually watch the videos.
Fangio JM you could also count social media that there were enough people that were offended by that.
At least I won’t judge a nation with that but it doesn’t make a good reputation if other people around the world are seeing that some people in certain provinces, states or nations are offended by license plates and just words on a car.
Fangio JM don’t you mean 2 huge mobs with quote “upwards of 300 cars” in a road block along with yeh ambassador demanding BBC to apologise and refuse to air it in Argentina. Well then yes
They are civilized, but Nationalism is a HELL of a drug.
The best thing the Argentineans could have done would be to have embraced it. Top Gear is seen globally and had they chosen to play Jeremy, Richard and James at car football then everyone watching would have smiled with happiness.
Besides, if an Argentinean film crew came to the UK making a show of their own on something they would never in a million years be put through such an ordeal. In my view that whole thing was backwards ass behaviour from a backwards ass country. Beautiful as Argentina might be they have a lot of growing up to do. But like James said on the show the people they met were very welcoming up till reaching the southern tip of the country. So perhaps its maybe that region alone.
True. Ushuaia specifically is the main part that hates the British, the rest of Argentina was nice.
FRANCO IGNACIO Hate is a poison and not something to be proud of.
Hate is a choice... to see it as anything else is to surrender you mind and spirit to the winds of circumstance.
But the reaction to the mere mention of a war... should not be the endangering of live... by people who were not alive when the war took place... and against people who were not alive when the war took place.
If they want to make their identity tied to a war they lost... be bitter and hateful, and attack people over what, even if it was intentional, is in no way an aggressive action... then yes that is fucked up.
Not to mention their own media lied about the plates of the other cars to try and stir up more violence.
I'm from Argentina and it might sound weird but people is giving less and less importance to the islands. Especially young people like myself. We just got tired of it and also, we are very conscious that if Argentina tried to start a war with the UK, we would obviously loose. Also, we know that the government want them back because of all the petroleum but the thing is that there isnt any left because the british took it all. Actually, it's quite the government's fault because they say that British people hate us and laugh about us and shit but the truth it's that British people dont give a fuck about the islands.
I agree with you and I think is a thing about the region. We aren't very nice people but when it comes to tourist, we try our best to help them to have a good experience (at least in Buenos Aires). I think that maybe it's a thing about the South, particularly in Usuahia. God, in Chubut (one of the provinces from the South) there are places that are based in Welsh culture.
I, as an Argentine, do I think is was wrong what they did to the crew? Yes. It's terrible. It's barbaric. But I also think that they shouldn't blame all of us for what happened. I know they've been lately doing a lot of jokes about it in the show and saying that Chile is better and shit. And I think they should stop because it's not our fault that some fucking idiots attacked them. Actually, many of us apologized with the crew via Twitter and I don't think it's cool they put all of us in the same box. Even Jeremy said that those people who attacked them were nationalists and, believe me, with everything that it's happening right now, there are less and less nationalists.
Agus Cesio im not a brit nor an argentine but what ur people did... reflects the whole country...
If u dont want to be put in the box, then get all those persons and make them apologies to the crew.
thats all TY
I've visited Argentina and the people there were very wonderful, I refuse to believe the assholes that these guys had to deal with are a fair representation of Argentinean people
Personally, I'm angry about the police and the ambassador. Why on Earth was the Argentinian police incapable of controlling the crowd? Okay, maybe it's not worth it for filming, but at one point the crew was being headed towards a roadblock of 300 cars meant to stop the convoy and... presumably give an opportunity to the argentinian hooligans to attack the crew mercilessly. Why weren't there enough cops to STOP the road block? Oh, and ARREST all the people throwing rocks at them, and the people behind the roadblock?! Either the Argentinian government is incompetent and under funded or complicit. Also, Alicia Castro can go FUCK HERSELF. How dare she claim an apology from Top Gear? Decent people everywhere but especially top gear and the bbc should be getting an apology from her!!!
RoScFan Welcome to the third world
well, south america goberments are shit, believe me. is like if one of the officers try to hit a criminal or someone doing a crime, they get fired. try to defend yourselft and you go to prison and the politicians they don´t give a fuck about the people (unless that affects him/her) all they care about is money (just a OPINION from someone from south america).
Fuck you.
why?
So all of this mess just cause by plate number???, i was really shocked
Yeah, man. Kinda curious to see what happens to the people out there have "I939 WW" as their number plate. Would the whole world chase and kick them out of existence?
@@ivanbima5877 probs not, I think most other countries developed a sense of humour and stopped crying about the past. We'd make memes about it instead
It’s not called the falklands in Argentina so how would they know
Because they might have known what it's called in England, and would have probably also been able to understand English.
@@PottersVideos2 and? Can't get your point... The thing here is that not only because of the plate but the place they've chosen is the most important for the islands here in Argentina. But on the other hand I do understand that we choose the wrong way. I love top gear, hope they come back some day.
Yo soy argentino y pienso que estuvieron mal en hacerles ese desprecio a top gear, hay dolor en las dos partes de la guerra, y actuar asi no ayuda, me gustaria que los dos paises hagan las paces
Gracias por restaurar algo de la poca fe que me queda de mi país, de saber que hay gente que puede ir más allá del resentimiento que nos inculcan de todos lados. Dios te oiga y ojalá más gente vea este comentario
I saw one of May's interview, and he explains it way more perfectly than Hammond and Clarkson
With that Logic...
My licence plates says 19-39-KN
Does that mean I was involved with the “Kristalnacht”?
Hold up
Were u
why did you give us your licence plate number?
If Argentina invades the Falklands again we should not only take it back but invade Argentina itself and see how they fucking like it.
I don't hate Argentina but geographical position does't mean it suddenly belongs to them. Britain settled on those two small islands in the southern ocean, there was no indigenous population and suddenly Argentina decides because they are the closest county to the Falklands, it suddenly belongs to them. Its disgraceful and luckily the UN, USA and Chilli are on our side and helped us allot behind the scenes to help us get them back after Argentina invaded. I understand we have to respect Argentinas claim but they have to respect our claim as well.
Why not just nuke Argentina
Chris Adams As tempting as it sounds, we can't kill civilians, even if they are deluded.
the only reason argentina should be spared from a nuke are their women, and to a lesser extent, their steak. but the rest can go and nobody would miss it
I do agree with you Juan altredo save the women and children kill all the men
not sure about the children
The fact is the war is in the past lots of shits happened to many countries, still going on in some but punishing people now who have nothing to do with it other than being born in a country is disgusting. I can go over to Germany and be totally ok as I didn't do anything, and my German friends come over here and they're fine because they did nothing either. I just fail to understand how trying to kill innocent people because a war once happened is justifiable.
The entire crew had no phone signal when escaping but mobs about 10 mins away from each other all somehow knew where the crew was heading to attack them
How did the locals have signal but in the same place the crew didn't
Landline phones and handheld/vehicle mounted radios would allow that. Not sure if there was even cell service in that area at all or not, but it's possible for for one wireless carrier to have service in an area and another have 0 signal.
Also in the episode there were vehicles watching the production teams convoy that could of easily drove ahead and relayed information to the mobs.
@@nonyabusiness1776 There must have been some contact between the crew and Clarkson/Hammond/May, in an interview May said they were monitoring, figuring out routes and they'd even looked into airlifts if there was no other way.
In hindsight, maybe after the 3 presenters left they should've left the 3 cars at the hotel OR dump them somewhere, get in the cars with the camera's and stuff and get out asap. Might have been less violent (or atleast i hope so). With the trio out but the cars still in sight they might've thought the trio was still around.
They were in the middle of nowhere. These people came from towns to intercept the convoy at one specific place.
Argentina doesn't deserve top gear
+nismo96 We don't want it at all. Boring show.
+dantunez65 says the one subscribed to the XFactor
+James Rowe I don't think he was trying to be disrespectfull, he was telling you the truth. I mean seriously: I don't know ANY argentinian who watches Top Gear
@@fabriziosilva9385 That would require owning a TV. So yes I see the difficulty for them. Although I do like that one show from Argentina, you know the one that is viewed around the world? Shit wait, I am thinking of top gear. To be honest, here in Canada, more people have heard of top gear, then Argentina itself, most don't even know what language you speak.
@@cyberneticghostofchristmas2501 Sorry... you said Canada? The country who is only known for being USA's lil puppy and that maple shit? Come on. Besides, YOU gon mess with our language? Shit, at least we know we speak spanish. What are you, english, french? You shouldn't even be a country jajaja
Weather it was because of the plate H982 FKL or simply because they are British does not matter. The people who continually assaulted, chased and herassed the TopGear crew for a period of 48 hours even after Clarkson, Hammond and May had left the country should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law and Argentina should apologize for those people as a nation. For citizens of a country that sheltered Nazi war criminals, they sure get bent out of shape over nothing.
This isn't even a question of colonialism, it's a question of who feels they deserve this territory more. If the Argentines that claim that the Falklands are a product of imperialism and so should be given back to its original owners truly believe in this reason then they should already have drawn up plans for giving their country back to its original inhabitants since Argentina itself is a product of imperialism. What this really is, isn't a fight of morals, it's a fight of egos and nationalism.
Lazy Spark They would probably be make a legal case to the UN or whoever is in charge of these things because, lawfully, the Falklands are a British colony from the time of the British Empire, which was officially ended in 2002. That being said, the Falklands were invaded by Argentina, the population wants to be British and Argentina should respect that and move on.
+Lazy Spark Yes, Someone finally says it. Argentina is the product of Imperialist Spain. Thank you.
+Daniel Petersen Actually , while what the population and its desires is very important , it is an implanted population , they were taken there after the British had taken the islands , thats why Argentina doesn ' t accept the referendum, and Britain is ignoring the UN calling for negotations, but honestly i think the war ( not the dispute ) was just sheer stupidity from both sides politicians .
+Segundo Gimenez Either way, the people are better off under Britain than under Argentina. We both know where they can get the best education, most opportunities and equal way of life from those two choices.
+TheRoopeKonna I agree with that. They should go back to their country: England if they don't want to be in argentinean territory.
The front platr was taken out early in the first episoed after they were warned about it, but the rear one was there and nobody complained...
You know what i never see on these videos about the attack?
Someone from Argentina apologising or clearing the fact it was only a select few etc.. have not seen a single comment like that?:?
This is for the bigots who attacked or hounded the Top Gear crews. I'm not british and I dont like the idea of the UK at all. So I'm calling it, you're being childish and rude and you bring shame to your country. So many Argentinians showed support but people forget about the decent people because of people who try to let their hate loose on anything that even remotely reminds them of the falklands incident. So to the Argentinians who actually showed their distaste for these actions, thank you for being decent human beings.
+Jan-Erik Strøm To you and all those thinking british. I'm sorry for those violents. Nothing can endorse that behavior.
+Jan-Erik Strøm You don't like the idea of the UK? What exactly do you mean lol?
Well, its basicly just England and its conquered countries. Doesnt sound too good imo :p
Jan-Erik Strøm Upset over what happened all those years ago lol?
+Teh Stranger? No. Upset because they are taking resources from our sea every day since 200 years and now not only them but they also allowed to foreign by selling them licenses. A rich country stilling from the 3rd world.
The only battle Argentina can win is against unarmed 20 year old camera crew assistants-and even then, they got away!
I think that the fact the number plates was on a car that Clarkson was driving was probably like a slap in the face to the Argentines
i saw the whole series and was so scared top gear is my favorite show
And no one batters an eye lid to the Peugeot sticker and badges put on Hammonds car...
I remember Jeremy, Richard and James joking about offensive plates in Australia and than this happened
Patente 1: H982 FKL = 1982 FalKLands
Patente 2: N269 KNG = 269 caidos en la guerra del lado de United KiNGdom
Patente 3; EKH 646J = Enemies Killed 646 caidos en la guerra
I just to ask. When the crew was attacked were the presenters drive the Mustang, Lotus and Porsche or was that crew member driving them cars.?
It was crew members driving them - by that point, JC RH and JM had all flown to Buenos Aires with a couple of the producers. The attacks happened as the crew was trying to get out of the area.
Adam Newton no .when the whole crew got attacked they were still driving them, you can see they say "Star Cars" , and also thats why they abandon the cars
Ummmm wrong - Search UA-cam for an interview with May on AbsoluteRadio, and he confirms the three presenters and a couple of producers flew from Ushuaia to Buenos Aires, they were not anywhere near the convoy when it was attacked.
The reference to "star cars" is only regarding the actual cars, not the stars driving them.
Adam Newton Oh ..Ok that was smart.
I can understand the English people's reaction on this matter but I also understand the Argentinians. I wonder how the English would feel if Argentina had occupied some islands next to England and populated them with Argentinians. Honestly, would you feel it's OK? These are the reminiscences of colonialism that still create problem. British, Dutch or French this and that around the world. They got a lot less in the second half of last century but there are still a few left that needs to be fixed. Remember, if a part of your country is and island or piece of land thousands of miles from your actual land, then it's not your land. It's that simple.
You call 300+ miles out to sea close to Argentina?.
mjp102 lol, at least closer to Argentina than to England. Wouldn't you say so?
***** Even today there are thousands if not millions of uninhabited islands around the world. Sometimes 2 or more countries argue about a single uninhabited island and who owns it. Just because you fined an uninhabited island does not mean it's free to take. The British empire was the most powerful of it's time and took what ever they wanted/could around the world. They signed treaties and trade agreements with many countries and as the super power they could often make sure it was in their advantage. To make some ruler of a weak nation sign a peace treaty was no problem, specially if the ruler got a good personal deal for himself out of it.
I agree other colonial powers could be much bloodier than the British but that is not a big joy for the conquered. The colonial powers populated many of these places with their own people. The ones you mention, Falklands and Gibraltar, but also places like South Africa, Australia and many more. So when you say people should choose their destiny, it means the British people the empire brought to these places. The empire did not give a way anything freely with a couple of exceptions, as you say. Everything from US to Africa, from north to south was taken by those countries people in wars. Often bloody civil wars started by the colonial power holding the land.
I'm not saying Falkland should be given to Argentina. But the things I write are the point of view from the other side, the conquered ones. Colonialism might be a thing of far past for you or a Spaniard and barely mentioned but at special times it's ever so present for the other side. And Falklands is such a reminisce of colonialism once again showing itself and it's power. It might sound far fetched to you but these people have a very different history and life experience than you or me. It doesn't hurt to better understand the other side.
bezor, The Falklands have historically been empty and occupied at different times by British, French and Argentinean. The population there now are British and wish to remain so. The islands were not stolen or taken by waging war on Argentina. And need I remind you at the time of the war in 1982 Argentina was a military dictatorship and such dictatorships are aggressive and unstable by their very nature. Argentina was wrong to invade those islands. Britain might have a history of colonialism and empire but that is in the past now and what has been done cannot be changed. Those islands are British and so are the people living on them.
Its time to move on now and accept this. Two little islands in the south Atlantic aren't worth continuing such hatred.
dafty97MRA Many islands are even today empty. It's not a reason for any country passing by to take them and then populated them by it's own people. In the end Britain took the islands and signed a treaty with the Argentinian ruler, end of 1800, so Argentina would not have any claims on them.
I think the Argentinian people suffered most under these different dictators and of course the military dictator used the islands to shift peoples attention which was very wrong. I know about most of the dictatorships of South America, most of which were US staged and backed.
Colonialism is a thing of the far passed for us but but not for nations and people who lived under colonialism. There are reminiscences of it left here and there that still create problems. I simply say when ever there is a feeling of injustice, one should not easily dismiss it. It will surface again. if not now then in 20 years or 50 years from now and maybe even stronger. Maybe more energy and effort should be used to listen and solve these kind of disagreements than to directly raise arms.
With all the other problems Argentina has (defaulting on international loans, a poor economy, massive amounts of deforestation, a struggling education system), I'm surprised all the fuss about unintentional offensive number plate (which they took off after being made aware of it). I understand that there is a dark history between the British Empire and Argentina, but the actions of those Argentinians who attacked people who had nothing to do with the war is inexcusable. You can't persecute someone because of their nationality or heritage (and you would think events like Apartheid or WW2 would have taught people that). History is not something people are meant to live in, dwell in and in turn make the world darker, but rather learn from, and make it better. The Top Gear crew showed no signs of animosity or hatred towards Argentina, and even tried to rectify the situation, so I believe the response they received was nothing short of barbaric and prejudiced. I have heard stories about Argentina from Argentinian relatives, but this was just a side I had never heard of before. I watched both parts of the special I was amazed at the beauty of Argentina and Chile, but those last parts deeply detracted from the whole thing.
Throwing rocks that's why they lost the war
I don't understand what was wrong about the plate
I’m Australian. I wouldn’t even notice if someone had something like 932EMU in reference to the emu war which is something our country has always been embarrassed about
I’m welsh/Scottish, should I get pissed off at someone who isn’t Scottish wearing a kilt? Should I get mad at people who wear plaid? No it’s a number plate Jesus search up the plate and model and see for yourself
H982 FKL
I do see that fkl does resemble Falklands
And h982 also looks like it says 1982
But it doesn't mean shit
It doesn't reference that war it is a number plate that registered a car.
Yea that's like saying RH1942 would make you a nazi
I know this is old but. The Falkland Island War was pretty brutal. If a group of Brits come to a city full of those who vividly remember the horrors.
Yeh, it's not like they've had Brit tourists etc in the *40 years* since, & a peaceful film crew parked at a Hotel must be so traumatic, especially when you to have to go out your way to find them to pick a fight; totally understandable for (some) Argentine men to act like feral stone-age half-wits..
Just in case there's any argies watching this. "BRITON WON, GET OVER IT!"
-649 Argentine's buried in British soil.
That's right! Britain won. Thanks on your part for admitting that Brit. has the islands due to firepower like the rest of the ex-Brit. empire and not due to legitimate sovereignty claims. ?Comprende?
can't believe you believe that b******* propaganda.
DIDACT me or jose?
probably jose because you actually make sense!
You guys are no better than those who threw rocks, stop making fun of dead people, bastards
As a motor trader with an understanding of how cars get registered, I would put my money on this joke dating back to 1991 when the original owner (potential military man, just saying) chose his number plate at first registration 👍🏻
First they insult the people of Alabama, than they insult Mexico, now they insult Argentina and they expect people to believe it was just a coincidence?
come on, really?
Yes, because of the sheer wealth of evidence which proves that for once, they weren't being cocks.
"Argentina, God's cesspool." - Richard Hammond
LMAOOOOOOO
Argentina is a beautiful place to go and don't be afraid, argentinians did this BECAUSE they were Top Gear (popularity is a bitch), if you're a british tourist, you're gonna be fine. Just dont remind them of falklands and mention youre a brit at the same time.
Pretty stupid, now they set the image of uneducated dorks, and heck, every single person involved in that mob is. But most argentinians are really keen on helping out, especially those from the countryside, on big cities like Buenos Aires there's mostly self interested dicks but some good people also.
I believe that this subject should be left to rest, but going to the most delicate city, where history is tied with the Falklands War, having a plate that resembles it should have been the job of the producers to make sure to change it. After all, they new from the get go that the feelings in Tierra del Fuego are higher than in many places. It is not an excuse for the behaviour the Argentines depicted, but it could have been avoided with a little bit of respect from the producers as well. I believe it was an childish behaviour from both sides.
I'll copy and paste this to you again. When someone buys a car they don't look at the number plate and think "does this have any special meaning?"... They just buy the fucking car. Don't be such a idiot it wasn't planned in any way, shape or form. It is a very easy thing to miss. It was ONE, yes ONE guy who posted about the number plate on the internet and it spread like wildfire and all of a sudden everyone was offended.
krytonic0 So nice you are kind of following my posts in a rather weird way. Listen man, if you do not like my viewpoint then don't even argue with me, less insult me. I never said they did it on purpose, but they had a responsibility of looking into this things when you go into a country with history. I will give you an example. If you have a car in Chile, and you cross to Bolivia yeah? If your plate number has the word PAC or MAR you have to hope that a thing such as Tierra del Fuego doesn't happen. Look it up.
Hans F. Lauritzen I don't follow your posts. I watched both videos and saw you whining in both of them. Whenever you go to a foreign country do you check the colour of your shirts? The pattern on the bottom of your shows for where you walk in the dirt? Or do you just put them in your suitcase? Get real, it is just a number plate and there was NO excuse for that violence. Bunch of rabid animals.
Hans they REMOVED the plate, they did everything they could to calm the situation, as soon as they were messaged with the info that people "perceived" the plate negatively, they removed it.
Fact is they were targeted by right wing Argentinian thugs, who made it perfectly clear they were not interested in discussion or dialog, they wanted a fight and thats a situation they were going to force.
If the plate said "1L0VARG" ie: i love argentinia, that wouldnt have made a shit of difference to these thugs, they targeted the top gear team specifically because they are British citizens.
***** But what about "1H84RG35"?
Half the Vets that protested weren't even Veterans.
I belive the plate was an honest mistake also the best way to get people to stop referring to something(like loosing a war)just ignore them if they do refere not put hugh spotlight on the subject by behaving like a mindless mob.The tv show was saying very nice things about the land and people and did not diserve there treatment at all.I hope everyone ended up alright.
You can look up H982 FKL on vehicleenquiry.service.gov.uk/ and it'll tell you it was registered in 1991, way before this was even thought of.
So. Something I didn't know. I always thought Clarkson, Hammond and May were with the crew. So they must have stayed behind in the hotel and left a different route and time. Didn't know that interesting.
oh God, this sounds *awful* ! I really *really* feel for the crew, especially the ones whom were pelted with rocks and chased with no obvious means of escape - how *terrifying* that must’ve been ! even now it seems like an overreaction, especially when they never even *realised* their mistake before it was just *too* late; I mean, how were they meant to know a number plate could cause offence ?
Was the plate coincidental or premeditated?
James May said on another interview that the number plate was purely coincidental because they wouldn’t have had enough time to change it and do all the legal stuff on it.
He is Wonderful
To all who wonder why they never checked the number plate think about this. How often is it that you walk on a street and notice anything regarding a number plate?
He bought the car. The number plate when buying a car is very apparent. There is no doubt in my mind he knew
Very Simple lesson: war is bad
agree
You shouldn't do wars.
If you do them you're bad.
Cause wars are bad.
Don't do wars.
Wars are bad.
I don't believe for a second they didn't know the connection with the plate. Throughout Top Gear the presenters mentioned they remembered the number plates from all their former cars and their parents cars. Clarkson even made comments about plates on cars they bought which had offensive acronyms. I think he wanted the car because it had a deep meaning for him and then read the plate which led him to the idea of driving in Patagonia. They've always used subliminal messaging throughout the show with signs on the cars and other things therefore I don't believe for a minute they didn't know.
and even if they did know, does a warrant a full blown scale attack on them!?
TRICKSHOTZ1027
You have a fair point
Offending people whether intentional or not does not warrant an attack
I agree with Hammond
In Argentina they call the island, Isla Malvinas not Falklands, so who made the connection ?
Here's a fun game we can play:
I'm going to list 10 pre-written licence plates. Find out what makes them offensive. To make it easier, I've listed the country in which they could be seen as offensive in. Be specific.
I will post the answers after a month has passed.
Here goes:
LM33 EEE (United Kingdom)
BL12 HEI (United Kingdom)
PP-940-VC (France)
RA FL 2500 (Germany)
BM 922 FI (Italy)
Y92-B-837 (Bosnia and Herzegovina)
AUS 3172 (Poland)
14 OI 150 (Turkey)
I194UB (Russia)
AP • 46139 (South Africa)
Disclaimer: I under no circumstances condone the deliberate use of offensive licence plates, or the use of racial slurs. I also do not believe that Top Gear's incident was intentional.
Month has gone by. Time for answers. ;)
@@martinbudinsky8912 Yes of course my apologies:
LM33 EEE (Limey, derogatory term for the British)
BL12 HEI (Blitz Heinkel He-111)
PP-940-VC (Phillippe Petain, 1940 Armistice, and Vichy France)
RA FL 2500 (RAF Lancaster, Dresden Death toll)
BM 922 FI (Benito Mussolini and Fascist Italy)
Y92-B-837 (Republic Srpska and the Srebrenica massacre death toll in present day Bosnia)
AUS 3172 (Auschwitz)
I941UB (Operation Barbarossa)
14 OI 150 (Armenian Genocide)
AP • 46139 (South Africa Apartheid)
@@liamweaver2944 I cant understand how people can see those things in some of these. For example I could see the RAF in that plate but I would never link it to Dresden and I live only 80 kilometers away from Dresden IRL... :D
@@martinbudinsky8912 Exactly, it’s so dumb. But you know people who have nothing to do will find something to get upset about. It’s bullshit.
On a side note, are you German, Polish, or Czech?
@@liamweaver2944 Third times the charm. ;) I am Czech.
There has actually been a couple of episodes of top gear with the num plates as blatant anagrams & brought up by Jeremey himself
Word games that he comes up with to pass the time. Those number plates are correct for the cars.
NegativeNumbers427 personally I think it was thought through
NegativeNumbers427 Yeah, Mays was 11 out on number of British Deaths N269KNG (258 deaths) & Hammonds 3 out on number of Argentine Deaths during the war
Tom Star Gazer 11 + 3 = 14. the year this happened in. people ned to see that just because they were near the numbers dosent mean thats what they mean. my moms minivan has 298 in it does that mean she hates Argentina too?
Mason Kurien of course not.....but c'mon - its top gear, there untouchable & loved for it & even though it was an hilarious episode, I just think that it wasn't coincidental.
Dont get me wrong, I love top gear
Argentina just made top gear more money 🤣🤣🤣
still was one of the best specials based on content. shame they couldn't get to the end. It was a brutal trip even without the controversial bullshit
Bunch of cogs chasing them down ridiculous
I always thought the star cars on the ending were driven by the 3 but i am mistaken it must of been the camera crew
A great big asteroid crater would do quite nicely in Argentine right about now
Why is there no audience reaction to any of this? Is it added in afterwards?
It's just a number plate! Do you check the number plate on a rental to be sure you won't cause offense to someone everywhere you go?
+CorsetGrace wow who would have thought a number plate would cause major offense. if i saw 911NYC i wouldn't be offended by that at all. I would be like woah, but thats about it, like a civilized person should...
We didn't know about the number plate,bollox,just admit the joke backfired this time.......................
So what can we learn from this...Argentina shouldn't invade a sovereign British territory!
sorry to be a dumb dumb but what exactly is wring with the plate? thanks hehe
WOW he's camp!
i don't see how you can mourn the death of people by the actions taken by the people of Argentina did here, instead it shows how aggressive they are and how naïve they are to there own actions
Just win the war next time lol
They're just angry because we won
They wanted the 3 cars for the panels . Obviously to fix the Belgrano 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
🇬🇧1-0🇦🇷
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I think some people just look for a reason to fight and be angry. What terrible people. They can’t even listen to reason. No excuse for such hatred and violence!
No generalices
Is Alan Carr gay?
Teknoinek Why? Are you lonely?
Just to set the record straight, in a 2011 interview Carr told a reporter that he was madly in love but had no plans to marry his partner, Paul Drayton.
useless account naaa mate he’s been married to his wife for years Corse he’s gay!
@@Azureecosse lol "I'm not gay. I'm married. I have 3 kids" -Jeremy Clarkson
@@zxr-cade2026 In a recent documentary it turns out he was secretly gay.
I have been overwhelmingly concerned for all 3 of their cars. They were great cars and I is such a shame to have them all messed up like they were by the Argentinians. I heard they were confiscated by the police, but I wonder what will become of them. You heard Richard say that 928 was the only manual one in the UK, and that mach 1 was a beautiful car, same with the lotus. I wanna know if those cars will be shipped back to the UK, since top gear are the owners? I'd hate to leave those cars in such a hostile environment. I feel sorry for them :/. They started out as beautiful cars from well taken owners in the UK, and they ended up trashed in Argentina.. such a shame. Wonder what will become of them?
They got their cars back, as the registration for the prosche has been renewed on the 6th of October 2020
They've been crushed mate, compacted in rio grande I believe
My opinion about that episode: Argentinians' reaction was exaggerated, but I'm sure that Top Gear offended on purpose, because every special made by TG had this hidden message: "UK is better". And this was no different: they had to build a stadium to create a match between Argentina and Uk. I'm sure it was a vengeance of the 1986 football match where england lost, and in that time the falkland war was a raw nerve between those two nations.
The number plates: it may be a coincidence, but there are photos of other number plates in the porsche, so i.m.o. that means TG knew that it would have created controversy. They saw the car on sale, noticed the number plate and then said "let's go to Argentina".
Alexandre Gamarano that's the dumbest conspiracy I've ever heard.
I know I'm 3 years late I apologize for responding late but the pictures of the car were after the car was shipped to Argentina and after someone pointed it out it was too late to legally register it with another plate so they put a decoy on the car but couldn't use it much as it's illegal to falsify motor vehicle registration/documentation in which that plate was assigned to that car. Plus that car Jeremy has sedimental value to as it he in the special said that that's the car he was test driving when his dad was fatally ill and he respected that model Porsche as he credited him being able to spend his dads last half hour alive and being able to hear his dads last words to that car.
Hold on. I'm actually confused here. I really don't know what's offensive about the plate, or what the meaning of it was, or what war they're talking about. To me, it just looks like a normal license plate. Please, someone help me understand.
Jeremy Clarkson drove a Porsche 928 in the Top Gear Patagonia Special which had the number plate H982 FKL. Argentinians believed it was a deliberate reference to 1982 Falklands War and took issue with it by ordering the presenters to get out of Argentina immediately.
The production crew had to abandon all the 3 cars the trio drove in the special. They were also pelted with rocks by the angry mobsters who *thought* it was a reference to the war.
Mind you, the number plate of the 928 was already registered before it was used in the special and it was just a matter of pure coincidence.
@@KidneyFailureGaming Thanks for clearing this up, man, I appreciate it
@@sovb no problem glad I could help 👍
@@sovb btw you can watch it unfolding in this playlist ua-cam.com/play/PLQ8j52uGQb-4q8wWk1P0sdFJuuhAvv7Y3.html
Watch it from episode 13
im a huge top gear fan, but obviously that number plate was going to cause offence, and the number plate should have been changed with the DVLA before the car was shipped, but they choose not to do so and shipped with with a offensive number plate
I hope you are never called for jury duty....
Somebody should go through all the trouble of changing license plates in order to avoid offending people who might feel insulted by a random combination of letters and numbers? Really?
***** The available evidence and a rational analysis thereof points to that conclusion. If you have extra evidence that proves the letters and numbers on that plate were not a coincidence, feel free to share it. Without said evidence, speculation is worthless.
They only found it the plate was an issue a week into filming.
What's often forgotten is that the Argentines also made a fuss about the numbers of the other cars saying that they were too close to the casualties on both sides in the war
Imagine if Germany did that about the wars it’s just childish af
It would be the other way around as Germany lost both wars.
I've seen this plate and yet i still don't understand what is wrong with it.
+MeisPip 1982 falkland war
But here's the thing. It just mentions it. So what? Why get angry over it?
Was there any genuine mockery made of the war? How is naming what happened in 1982 a mockery?
If Top Gear showed something like a British soldier pretending to attack an Argentinian soldier, then fair enough.
But you can't overreact like that when a war is mentioned, yet not made fun of.
it does not mention anything about the war. the license plate is h982 fkl, people just see it now because some butthurt idiots pointed it out.
@@DownloadARevolt20 You can look up H982 FKL on vehicleenquiry.service.gov.uk/ and it'll tell you it was registered in 1991, way before this was even thought of.
I think the BBC and Top Gear deserve an apology from Argentina. They didn't do anything wrong, and those fucking people stoned them and chased them out of the country.
Who even wants to be in argentina
There aren´t money in argentina, but the country is beautifull, more than UK, always cludy....
+José Ortega not always cloudly, just as bad as people blaming the whole or argentina.
Top Gear are known for taking a Mickey out of people in a hidden way like the Eenie meanie joke a few years back it’s just incredible bad luck that they found a car with that number plate and taking it to the one place that people are going to notice it.
I very much doubt it was bad luck 🤣 its far more likely Jeremy saw the number plate (he likes those cars) and THEN decided where the episode would be
Argentinian are very sensitive about malvinas or falkland islands
They tried to kill people over a license plate, that reminded them of a major event in their history. The problem is, the people that they tried to kill had absolutely no connection with the event in question. If they are leaving your country, tell them to get out as soon as humanly possible and let them leave your country, no need to resort to such violence.
Its like being shot at in New York because you drive a Porsche that says 911 on the side
What episode was this in?
How old is Richard in 2020 is top gear still famous in next decade
So if they procured the car and the offending number plate on purpose, how did they do it? Did they search the vehicle database for that particular plate, find the owner of the car it belonged to, and offer them enough money they would part with their car just to play a gag that backfired? If they did it on purpose can someone explain how they did it?
I can tell you how. They bought the car BEFORE deciding the location
@@KowBoySpace true that's possible. Somebody saw the car and recognised the opportunity to use it.