2019 Ural, First ride! 2017 Ural Retro needs work. Son falls in love with Janus!
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- Опубліковано 30 чер 2024
- While delivering Sigmund to Heindl Engineering for a bit of work, I rode a 2019 Ural for the first time. Also, my Son saw a used Janus Halcyon 250 and fell in love.
At the time I'm posting THIS video, I'm about to leave to head back to Heindl to pick up my 2017 Retro and my Son has made up his mind on the Janus Halcyon, will it come home with us? Or will he leave it?
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The dog:
Benny is a Siberian Husky rescued through Releashed Rescue in 2014. Facebook / releashedrescue
The bikes:
Sigmund: 2017 M70 /Retro from Ural of Pittsburgh. Purchased with 71 miles on it! www.uralpittsburgh.com/
Georgia (with WonderBug the sidecar)" 2017 cT originally from Holopaw Ural uralofholopaw.com/index.html
The former bikes:
Ursula: 2008 Ural Tourist - purchased in 2015 through motorsportssuperstore.com/
Pat: 2010 Ural Patrol - purchased 2015 from private seller in CA and shipped by haulbikes.com to Georgia.
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We actually use our sidecar rigs to conduct bat surveys and go visit locations where we may be needed!
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Awesome vid showing up close detailing, really good having the knowledge of previous models to compare and notes, thank you, Andi
Best input yet on the 2019! Thanks.
This is the first Janus referral I have come across incidentally. Keep biking.
Spending time rewatching your videos. I have ordered a 2021 or it may be a 2022 to replace Urie, my 2006 Tourist. Glad to here your impressions on the “new” Urals. I hope I can feel a HUGE upgrade, and I do so enjoy my 06 (bought new in 05). Thanks for your efforts!
I rode a 2008 Tourist, I rode my 2017 Retro Gen1 EFI and now it has Gen2 EFI. I would say in order of performance (least to best) it would be the 2008, 2017 Gen1 EFI, 2019, 2017 Gen2 EFI. The improvement from the 2008 to the 2019 is huge, like two different machines completely. The improvement from 2017 Gen1 to 2019 is mostly about how smooth the engine runs and even power. Going from 2019 to the 2017 Gen2 EFI is nominal improvement in performance, almost a tie really, and does not address any other engine upgrades or improvements on the 2019. The 2021 or 2022 will be a massive up kick from a 2006, hold on tight!
Fantastic, honest and critical review. I had a 2009 for 5 years and really liked it but didn't like syncing the carbs or it maxing out at 60MPH. I had the OD green gear up. I only used the 2WD twice. I'm toying with the idea of a Ural sometime in the future and I'm interested in the CT. I have heard that the CT is a bit faster due to the lack of the sidecar driveshaft drag. I would ove to see some more displacement and another gear or two.
What a great vlog , not only your summary of the Ural but your son on the Janus . First class and look forward to when your Retro is ready for pickup , Cheers !!!!
Thanks, we are prepping to go pick it up Monday!
Thats good@@GoneUraling I,m sure your Retro will be a new machine , I dont live anywhere near Hiendl Engineering but they seem to know there stuff and have their heart in the right place !!
Good video Robert, funny about the Janus gas cap, Hahaha
Glad to hear they are improving, but for now I think my new
2015 Patrol will Just Sit in the back of the barn..!! 🙄😵😩
Kind of a small world. I have a 2019 Gear Up in Burnt Orange (same color as your test ride) and also have a Janus Halcyon on order. Love the styling of the Halcyon.
Great info! I've been thinking about ear plugs, and a good idea for you to review different products. You sure did a good job.
Ocala Fl.
I am particularly fond of yellow 2019 Gear Ups. Thanks to Heindl for giving me the idea to order one!
Sir, I'm considering a Ural purchase in the next few years. I really appreciate your videos. Thank you!
enderfinisher REGRET is what you will end up with if you spend your hard earned cash on this POS
Do your research, talk to owners, join the soviet steeds forums and groups and beware the haters. Are they the best machines on the planet, no. Are they for the "ride and forget" crowd, no. Are they a ton of fun and a unique ride you can enjoy, yes! "Understand what you are buying" is the best advice I can give.
Funny. Son said - it just wouldn’t go away. Sounded exactly like the dad. Same intonation.
Your vlogs are very informative yet entertaining. I kicked around by a Royal Enfield for 10 years before taking the plunge , now I am in year four in deciding on the Ural sidecar.
The pricing for a new Ural is still my major hangups. Thanks for your education.
While not cheap, they are not incredibly expensive either all things considered. I never dreamed when I bought my 2008 back in 2015 that by 2019 my wife and I would both be riding and have over 25,000 miles EACH in experience. They are addictive.
Great videos! Have checked out a couple and they are quite well done. Looking for a Patrol or GearUp as a third bike, but She Who Must be Obeyed is skeptical about the need. Ride safe.
Peace!
I have to say you always have a great way of describing what you see, feel and hear. The higher angled fuel injection for more foot room and supposedly cooler running engine due to deeper fins is a big plus. I have the 2018 gear up and happy with it but I agree with you to wait for a possibly even better 2020. Thanks for your honest review. I’m sure John at Heindl engineering would have wanted you to tell everyone to rush out and buy the 2019.
I think any time is a great time to get a Ural and start riding. The 2019 has it's place and will undoubtedly become a marker point in the history of Ural just like 2014 when the first EFI's were rolled out. It's another step in the adventure. I'm sure Jon will be happy selling whatever people want to buy and servicing it. Honestly, I'm looking and wondering what 2022 or there about is going to bring. I'm pulling for that 5 speed transmission!
If ya really want a retro bike get an early 70's dnepr.. I've got a 1971 mt9 dnepr with sidecar ..
My 1998 and a half year old with carburetors Mikuni's runs just fine and truckers hate when they get passed by a euro
A light Nimble bike to ride around on that's what you get when you have a BMW Airhead I have nine of them love them all
Thanks for posting lucky I live about 15 miles from your dealer in Florida but just can't make the plunge with a dependability issue
Urals have no where near the problems of old. If you get a 2019+ you're likely to have a good time with it. The DEALER makes the difference though, buy from a crap dealer, you'll have a crap motorcycle because they do the finally assembly. Go to SovietSteeds.com to research dealers. Come on in, the water is fine.
I bought a 2018 at about $5500 cheaper out the door, so no matter what they improved, it’s not gonna be worth that money. I also got a 3.yr warranty, so I’m happy, never thought I’d enjoy such a slow bike. But I’m having a blast, everything I’ve every watched about Ural, everything that got me to actually purchase one of those turds has been on pre 2019 bikes, so keep that in mind
No problem with that. Money talks and presented with a 2018 brand new for $5500 less, I'd ride the 2018 as well.
I love the original valve covers on my 98 and a half Euro tourist much classier than the new ones
Best Ural overlook by far!! Subd and thumbed. I am going to wait for the 2020 to be a leftover in a year or so and get one them. 2020 made some big changes.
Ah yes, the ole "wait one more year because it will be better" syndrome! Been there. I think we will continue to see improvements every year or two for some time to come. We have 2017's now and I'm not interested in upgrading until I see a 5 speed transmission come out.
@@GoneUraling I completely understand waiting for the 5 speed, that's what will happen, I will find the 2020 then Ural will 5 speed the 2022's. Man, waiting is tough.
Definitly need a longer cruising gear... damn it revs so high
Just remember, it's still a URAL !
I saw a Janus at show and it sure looked like the same Chinese 250 single that Cleveland Motorworks is putting on their bikes, which are quite a bit cheaper. Cleveland also offers a factory hardtail, the Heist, I think it's called. But for even less money, and pretty much the same fuel economy, if your son loves retro looks, he should look for a 2010 or later Royal Enfield Classic 500. These have closed loop EFI, and are responsive without an extensive warmup. My opinion of RE's engine is that although it's no Honda, it's much more reliable and durable than those chinese 250s.
Did your son get the Janus ? I am thinking to get one, Love the Ural but not i want at the moment Nice video
Yes, we brought it home this week when I picked up rig up.
You notice how he's leaving the Janus in the dust
I have the 2014, i like it better than my 1998 model.i had!
I couldn't go two to three weeks without riding my your Al I ride it everyday Sun wind rain whatever and if I had snow in Florida I would write it in the snow
I wonder if you will be able to add ‘19 heads and injection to an earlier EFI Ural.
Really good overview, by the way.
Thanks. And... I don't know it will ever be practical to upgrade. More probably if you find a totaled 2019 with a good engine and buy it, I might consider putting that in my 2017 M70 Retro, maybe.
Good idea. I can’t say that I have any complaints with my ‘18. Love it. Always gotta tinker though...
I emailed ural a few weeks ago and the responce is that they are actively working on a upgrade kit for 14-18 efis
But only the EFI, if you add the heads etc. might be steeper price, but our '18s have the newer pistons so only difference is slightly larger fins and a smaller exhaust port, I'm not sure if that will be as noticeable of an upgrade
Hey Bruno - that is great! I am only interested in the ECU and throttle bodies. If it can be done without replacing the heads, then great. I agree with John that the new heads/valve covers are looking too modern and not quite “old school” Ural.
I have relocated a larger car battery into the trunk and removed the little one under the seat.
i like the ural i will probly buy one soon I'm not sure about janice tho personal pref a
Gas cap, this mechanic knows his shit.
If you put that new engine in your older bike let me know how much the old engine is I might want to buy it off of you
It had to be the speedy yellow one...Keihen EFI, like the makers of your old Tourist's (and my Retro's) carbs...same used by half the motorcycle industry...note he didn't say '15 by name...you know if I get a new one, blaming you, Dmitry and Jon...technically the donut is a carden, 107K and counting on mine...they are up by 5 hp, but that is an 11% increase...pretty substantial when put in perspective.
I'm glad it wasn't blue, those are just TOO fast, I got the second fastest yellow color. I felt like a giant bumble bee riding down the road. :-)
it was supposed to have a black engine...real bumble bee...and yeah, it's your fault...
JamesAllmond I wanted the black engine as well as I plan to use in winter and here they weather better. My slate gray isn’t coming with black though so I’ll just have to learn to love it.
Any of my BSA 250 singles would run rings around that Janice
Would you be willing to give up the ride and handling of the m70/Retro for a gear up to get the 2019 engine?
No, I would not. Or I wouldn't have purchased my new M70 Retro last August knowing the 2019's were on the way. I knew they were discontinued and really wanted one, was disappointed then I learned they would not have the 2019 engine available in them. The engine I have I think will do well enough once the bugs are working out of the rest of the rig. Not everyone will agree with me, but I've wanted a Retro since about 1 month after I got my 2008 Tourist (my first rig) in 2015.
@@GoneUraling I have a 2015 ural Retri and love it. I thought about upgrading to a 2018, but the cost and only small improvements doesn't seem worth it?
@@GoneUraling How does the handling of the Retro compare to the tourist?
If you have a good running 2015, I personally don't see much in the way of a difference to go to a 2018. Most of the changes can be had by upgrading. There were some engine improvements in the 2017 and 18 but I think the 2019 is evidence those changes didn't bring the improvements needed or desired to Ural. I personally would ride the 2015 and enjoy it. Now, dropping the Retro and going to a 2019 cT, performance wise, yes, big improvement and not even a cause for hesitation if going from a cT to a cT. But... that Retro is just sweet and handles so well. That would be a tough choice for me but in the end, I think I would hold on to the 2015 Retro and save cash for whats next!
The Retro (to me) glides over the road better, is not as harsh, sits lower to the road, absorbs bumps better and is much easier to steer. Great for highway. The Tourist (and the cT) has a much stiffer feel, is harsher on the road and has heavier steering. I prefer the M70/Retro. My wife, while she would like the easier steering, does not like sitting lower to the road or the softer feel of connection to the road. It all boils down to preference, but I like the ride of the M70 much better than the cT or Tourist I had.
Any of my PSA
Im thinking ,,,,,,,,carbureted ,,,,I do not like constant velocity carbs but still, no cat, no fuel pump in tank,,,,
They are far too expensive £12000 in the uk!!, and we can longer have a right sided sidecar since 1985. They do some left mounted sidecars but not with the 2 wheel drive. I would have one if they were a lot cheaper.
I feel exactly the same. The ranger model I would be after is £17000! It's so stupidly over priced. No 2wd ether obviously.
Wenn du lange spass an deiner ural haben willst, rate ich dir den motor zu zerlegen,..die kanäle von spänen zu reinigen und die lager gegen gute zu wechseln!
None, none will survive. 😆😂
I have no idea what you mean, I must have forgotten something I said.
@@GoneUraling I think if I remember it was in regards to the footage that never happens. If you remember you rode with dead go pro.
@@adisyamadasa4238 ahh yes, I remember that now. Glad to be rid of that camera.
Don’t forget it is a 750
2 !!! weaks without your Ural :- ( !!! Fonz.
It's back now! Headed to Savannah.
Don’t forget still a 7:50
Ive been clise to buying a ural for about 5yrs but watching peoples vligs/reviews have not made me take the plunge.to many problems .
You know you want one, you know you'd love it! Check out the 2020's, find a used one with about 5000 miles on it, bugs worked out and a little warranty left.
Love to have one but way overpriced way under power almost no dealer Network buyer beware
Janus? Hugh Janus?
If they were so concerned about the engine running cooler they would go back to carburetors instead of fuel injection that makes them run hot as Hades boiling oil and cooking Pistons at 4 catalytic converters and an exhaust valve no way
Buy a Dnepr from the 70's .
thats a real experince , look at my channel for 2 old ones.
What State.... looks like VT
Near Eaton OH, look up Heindl Engineering Ural Motorcycles. He has a UA-cam channel.
@@GoneUraling thanks
Your white one is the prettiest.
When people talk about Russian quality and they put it down how do our astronauts get to the International Space Station if it wasn't for Russian rocket just saying
Урал , он и в Африке УРАЛ.
Janus a real pretty bike with a crappy Chinese engine there you go
Reminds me of an old BMW
Yeah LOL Far Cry from the BMW bud
Any one of my BSA 250 singles would run rings around that Janus the bike on the whole is nice a cheap Chinese knock-off of a little Honda motor is unacceptable for a bike that is the same cost as a Moto Guzzi V7
Three and a half million Souls of the older bikes especially to third world countries and I would dare say most of them are still running when it was a cheap Russian bike it was sold all over everywhere Cuba Vietnam everywhere now it is a very expensive toy for the rich buy an older girl you'll save tons of money I still have 90% of the regular bike
hardtail bikes are back killers , no fun
I had a 2017 for two months and it was a complete POS
These bikes “LOOK” cool, but there is NOTHING cool about how much of a piece of crap this bike really is.
Lost about $4,000 dollars when I sold it to the next sucker.
BUYER BEWARE!!!
It happens to some, and when looked at closely it is often a dealer problem, not always a bike problem. For the best experience, go to a good dealer. If not setup properly in the first place, then followed up with inexperienced repair efforts, you will not have a good time. There is also, for some reason, an occasional real lemon in the bunch, I won't deny it. I will say where we are right now with these two 2017's at about 14,000 miles each, both are doing well.
Would really be nice if there was set other company that made a bike with sidecar, instead of grafting a separate side are with an unrelated bike.
Comments like this make me wary of anyone flaunting that they’re Veterans or Patriots, damn Lou Dog being a good ol boy scamming his fellow man while having an American flag in his comment, makes me sick
Lots of useless anti-pollution controls to atone for all the idiots driving cars what stupidity needless complication complexity on serviceability just to atone for the pollution that cars make and as a low-volume manufacturer they could get an exception if they wanted and that would save two grand off the price of the bike because as the prices of B got higher now they are rich man's toy
Sometimes its better to keep your mouth shut and be thought a fool than speak and remove all doubt.