I tried out rifles out last night and was very pleased. I thought i was pretty good with them, and last night having them auto really showed me i needed to get good! Im glas they made the changes!
@RogueGold I also like that the mods now give enough handling to use them. Mdr I can get away with not alot but a converted USC needs a lot! But getting it from the weapon mods is great! Now if they just added more crit damage to rifles so they will be on par with ar's
So I tried this with crit and headshot dmg in the 120~% range and it works, in some cases it’s better imo because my damage isn’t solely relying on headshots. I did swap the eagle gloves for just a normal set of the same brand mask and the aces back pack. So I’m squishier but the damage is there And usually more consistent at range since I just have to hit the person not their head. It’s worth a try if your aim isn’t that great like mine or you don’t want to limit your damage to just headshots
I'm currently using a Lightweight M4 automatic and it's great. Some rifles can't be really used as automatic weapons because they are too much unstable but the LM4 is already a very stable gun and with some stability modes it's absolutely deadly as an automatic weapon.
@RogueGold I tried a 3 pc Zoo, foxes, momento, groupo with flatline and spotter. And was pleasantly surprised with the damage and survivability. Body crits with sig 1,602,895, body crits with mdr 1,322,276, and body crits MK17 1,927,974. The 45 weapon handling was nice and made the mdr a laser beam. I tested the same build with Break Point 2 pc, 2 pc Zoo, foxes, momento and the rifles were just all over the place and the damage wasn’t as high surprisingly
I've been rockin this same build but with 2 more armor rolls on my mask and holster, plus technician for another skill tier and the artificer hive. This takes my shield to tier 5 (about 4.1 mil health) and the build still does enough damage to 4 shot headshot elites with the MDR.
There is no way rifles aren't about to be the new meta. Just messing around I came up with some brutal combos right out of the gate. I like this new stuff. Alot.
Almost got the same build. Got a zoo mask instead of the eagles grasp since i dont have a aces & 8s that has rolled with a decent percentage. I farmed hybrid cores of headshot and crit chance. Absolutely melts. Also gunner specialization for survivability and faster rate of fire.
Hey Rogue I am using the same exact build as you except healer drone instead of shield and Gunner Spec instead of Sharpshooter for the HoK. Using LWM4 with Boomerang WH scope, CHD muzzle, Stability Laser Pointer, and standard +20 round mag. CHC and CHD sub stats all around to capitalize on the Boomerang Talent. A buddy and I did DUA Legend and A&8's double looped (hit cap twice, roughly 6b damage and some change) for damage done to enemies.
Just heard about this Auto Rifles thing after cleaning out my stash (300/300). Trashed some good rifles I want back now! I'll try throwing together a Vindiatior build.
Question: Is anyone else experiencing a sound bug running this build? After a while of firing all sound is basically dead except for NPC barks, hit markers, and the buff sounds aces makes. Is it just me?
I'm looking forward to seeing if you drop a pestilence and bighorn build. Especially pestilence. It is such a monster now. Even with an unoptimized build, it just absolutely shreds
Been Running this but with the NinjaBike Backpack, 1 Piece of Breaking Point (+25% Rifle Damage) and Zwiadowka Sp z o.o. Chestpiece with Braced (15% Mag Size/20% Rifle Damage/45% Weapon Handling). Currently using an Urban MDR with Boomerang since I did not go for HS damage but CRC/CRD instead.
Artist's Tool... I think I'm the only one who used this weapon quite a lot before these updates. Mainly because of 3 things: 1. It looks sick, especially with a tactical scope like EXPS3 2. It can pack pretty good damage 3. The name Artist's Tool is really sick, and it goes along with what I'm doing in real life, which is art After these updates, I am glad that I can enjoy it even more
@@PsychoCaki Agreed 💯.. I'm so glad they added in the Auto feature because there's only so much a index finger can take 😆.. Now they need a gun called A Psycho's Sketch
UIC15 MOD2 with all mods for crit chance/dmg, fires a bit slower but with eagle grasps you dont need any more mods for stability or acc (you can always put them on and make it a laser accurate rifle with no crosshair movement), other than that i already had this set up for when the aces change hits the live server and i love it (2mil-3mil headshots with UIC)
I have a really similar build like this I just creates yesterday using merciless. But I have 2 sp zoo. Thinking to swap a sp zoo chest Peace for perfect entrenche for a little bit of survivalility
I grabbed a 716 in descent earlier and it’s unbelievably powerful in there now. Just tears stuff up. For my regular grindology, I feel like the sun shinned on my poor butt for once. Both my go-to PVE builds work really well within the framework of the seasonal directive. A Hunters Fury build that generates a lot of bonus armor can really let you deal with that reflective damage buff pretty well. I also found the eagle bearer to be great for this, but you gotta land headshot kills.
Hey Rogue, this looks like a great build and I look forward to trying it out soon. I just wanna ask, what do you think of the UIC-15 post-update? I think it feels pretty decent even if a bit slower than other rifles. It's got really high stability and accuracy right out of the gate and pretty decent damage to boot.
Just tried it out thanks to your comment- you're right it's incredible stable/accurate! Honestly still trying to wrap my head around all of the options, there's so much variability with small differences between them
The rifle change to full auto is nice . I dislike the nerf to the standard Sig 716 . The weapon didn't do anything great . It was just a good all around weapon before the patch .
I tried playing stranded tanker with the modifier on and couldn’t even get past the first boss. Not sure how he was killing me but I turned that modifier off. I felt broken to me.
Enemies have their own modifiers. There’s one that if you hit at midrange, the damage you deal to the enemy you will also deal to yourself. I learned this the hard way. This specific modifier you have to hit at short or long range
@@bvr09 which sucks because most of the encounters are fought mid range. That's literally the sweet pot for combat. This modifier either needs to be rework or it should go.
If you're in the camp of being annoyed you have to make yet another new build OR are getting frustrated your striker build or traditional DPS build is so squishy, I have good news. The heartbreak still works. Yep, that memento, picaro holster, tried and true works just fine. Yes the holster went from 15% to 12%, however, playing solo for the past 2 days on heroic PvE I think I was downed once (all thanks to the build I am not some awesome player). So if your annoyed, that build still works just fine.
Wen it cames to rifles damage and RPM and stability definitely the SIG CQB its the bestin game right now the damage and the RPM it’s perfect i try all the are good but the best it’s definitely the SIG CQB
Very not related, but since we don't have a Roadmap yet, where is the apparel event for this season or is the stalker collab they are doing the replacement?
Not gonna be apperal event this season. Stalker collab will have 4 outfits but don’t remember if we will earn or purchase them. There is a ton of apperal to purchase in the store too.
That Lightweight M4 is my favorite so far. I decided to try it with my Striker build when it randomly dropped for me yesterday with the Strained talent. I added some stability and handling mods. It makes me wish it would just be tuned into an AR
Yeah I wanted to use it with heartbreaker and umbra, but as it seems there’s a bug with umbra or did they change smth how it works. Can’t seem to get stacks anywhere.
hey rogue. unrelated but have you ever been hit with a bug that has one of your characters unable to login (continuously getting delta 4'd) but your other characters can load in fine? happened to me today and was wondering if theres any fix
My Aces and Eights build is limited by lack of certain pieces but 2 pieces I'm keeping are the Weapons, Yes Relic isn't the best but it shines in my build, but my main weapon is a Lightweight M4 with Rifleman. "Why an M4 instead of Artist's Tool?" I hear you ask. One more weapon mod slot, so it is more variable. True it'll be less damage potential but with the M4 you reach it quicker and it can bridge the deficit with certain mods, perks, gear and conditions, Headhunter chest piece being a notable choice for my build 💙
Taking 2s to kill a purple and 6s to kill a boss means that the DPS is lacking a bit. I'm getting around 12m DPS on an all red focus vigilance rifle build which soundsgreat but you cant easily switch NPCs whilst focused. Switching to glass canon gives around 9.5m headshot dps. Not bad but I'll stick to 11m body shot DPS on my Pestilence build.
@imyuriibruv The mask was the Rank 100 completion reward for the Premium Season Pass back in Season 11. I'm afraid there's no other way to get it right now
Looks disappointing. I swapped in a rifle in my eagle bearer AR CD build and did more damage. Weapon is not optimized but it seems CD/CC is still better
This update honestly doesn't hit its just extra extra repetitive stuff i hate that i have to do 6 things on my journey just to unlock the next one just for me to do something over again ex my journey at level 2 said destroy equipment but at level 1 i was already deleting i had to wait to unlock level 2 just to re destroy equipment thats trash
The changes to weapons etc is great but all spoiled by reflective damage crap. And no I cant play without it because I match make and then find some idiot running it and the population is so low in game that its hard enough to find a group doing the things I want .Some great changes but more bad changes than I've ever seen in this game. Do NOT like the shape the games in right noew
I’m against the auto rifles it really shows who has skill b4 and after the update (how ever if the mpcs aren’t absorbing bullets the it’s not so bad) but ima still pull the trigger #xbox #day1player
Did you even watch the video? He said it was a template. Change it up to fit your playstyle, or don't use it at all and be a meta slave. It's all personal preference.
Did Merciless became automatic as well? That gun could always do some fnky stuff, it just got completelly fked by its semi auto terribleness and its massive recoil.
I tried out rifles out last night and was very pleased. I thought i was pretty good with them, and last night having them auto really showed me i needed to get good! Im glas they made the changes!
They definitely handle different than AR's, which is what I think most of us are used to 😄
@RogueGold I also like that the mods now give enough handling to use them. Mdr I can get away with not alot but a converted USC needs a lot! But getting it from the weapon mods is great! Now if they just added more crit damage to rifles so they will be on par with ar's
The M4 have zero recoil. I love it.
How do you switch between modes? I haven’t played in months
But ima update and get on today
This is my new favorite way to run aces. I've always loved the set, full auto rifles just makes it even better
So I tried this with crit and headshot dmg in the 120~% range and it works, in some cases it’s better imo because my damage isn’t solely relying on headshots. I did swap the eagle gloves for just a normal set of the same brand mask and the aces back pack. So I’m squishier but the damage is there And usually more consistent at range since I just have to hit the person not their head. It’s worth a try if your aim isn’t that great like mine or you don’t want to limit your damage to just headshots
I've built that same build, from the PTS. Only I use a military MK17 as my primary weapon, and a Vindicator as my secondary weapon.
Automatic rifle is a nice change, no longer to manually tap the trigger. I've been using the harmony rifle skill build and it's great.
I'm currently using a Lightweight M4 automatic and it's great. Some rifles can't be really used as automatic weapons because they are too much unstable but the LM4 is already a very stable gun and with some stability modes it's absolutely deadly as an automatic weapon.
100%
Brings back Div1 feelings.
LWM4, ACR SS, and LVOA-C are your Best bet
But hey with the Attachment Buff tbh almost every Rifle except USC and MK47 is Viable
FINALLY the 716 finally has a use
Artist Tool is my favorite rifle and im glad they added in the Automatic option. Loving it
@RogueGold I tried a 3 pc Zoo, foxes, momento, groupo with flatline and spotter. And was pleasantly surprised with the damage and survivability. Body crits with sig 1,602,895, body crits with mdr 1,322,276, and body crits MK17 1,927,974.
The 45 weapon handling was nice and made the mdr a laser beam.
I tested the same build with Break Point 2 pc, 2 pc Zoo, foxes, momento and the rifles were just all over the place and the damage wasn’t as high surprisingly
I've been rockin this same build but with 2 more armor rolls on my mask and holster, plus technician for another skill tier and the artificer hive. This takes my shield to tier 5 (about 4.1 mil health) and the build still does enough damage to 4 shot headshot elites with the MDR.
Love this build with Bakers :)
Baker's Dozen being auto now
I feel this. In my soul
There is no way rifles aren't about to be the new meta. Just messing around I came up with some brutal combos right out of the gate. I like this new stuff. Alot.
Yeah they're definitely quite strong!
Harmony full auto for my skill build ❤, love seeing the content rouge!
👊👊
I enjoy the changes to the rifles. They remind me of Scout Rilfes in D2.
Yeah!
MDR my all time fave outside of lvoa-c.. gonna build this soon
How is Lvoa? It used to have very weird recoil.
Almost got the same build. Got a zoo mask instead of the eagles grasp since i dont have a aces & 8s that has rolled with a decent percentage. I farmed hybrid cores of headshot and crit chance. Absolutely melts. Also gunner specialization for survivability and faster rate of fire.
Hey Rogue I am using the same exact build as you except healer drone instead of shield and Gunner Spec instead of Sharpshooter for the HoK. Using LWM4 with Boomerang WH scope, CHD muzzle, Stability Laser Pointer, and standard +20 round mag. CHC and CHD sub stats all around to capitalize on the Boomerang Talent. A buddy and I did DUA Legend and A&8's double looped (hit cap twice, roughly 6b damage and some change) for damage done to enemies.
Zoo brandset is going to be really useful this season!!
Just heard about this Auto Rifles thing after cleaning out my stash (300/300). Trashed some good rifles I want back now!
I'll try throwing together a Vindiatior build.
Built this exact build on the run up to this season, waiting patiently for those Aces changes. It's been really good fun so far!
Glad you're liking it! 🙌
Love your vids, well done
Thank you!
my brain fogged out last night from this rifles are auto now so i build a ravenous striker build. and it is damned amazeballs.
Question: Is anyone else experiencing a sound bug running this build? After a while of firing all sound is basically dead except for NPC barks, hit markers, and the buff sounds aces makes. Is it just me?
I'm looking forward to seeing if you drop a pestilence and bighorn build. Especially pestilence. It is such a monster now. Even with an unoptimized build, it just absolutely shreds
Working on getting through everything 😄 Will try to get there soon!
Looking forward to the builds. There is so much to mess with. I did a run of decent and the lightweight m4 as an assault rifle felt so good
Been Running this but with the NinjaBike Backpack, 1 Piece of Breaking Point (+25% Rifle Damage) and Zwiadowka Sp z o.o. Chestpiece with Braced (15% Mag Size/20% Rifle Damage/45% Weapon Handling).
Currently using an Urban MDR with Boomerang since I did not go for HS damage but CRC/CRD instead.
Sounds solid! 👊
A rifle build that doesn’t use Determined? We have entered strange new times, Agents.
When I start was thinking maybe a crit build with negotiators, maybe even some yellow build with ninja bike
Artist's Tool... I think I'm the only one who used this weapon quite a lot before these updates. Mainly because of 3 things:
1. It looks sick, especially with a tactical scope like EXPS3
2. It can pack pretty good damage
3. The name Artist's Tool is really sick, and it goes along with what I'm doing in real life, which is art
After these updates, I am glad that I can enjoy it even more
@@PsychoCaki Agreed 💯..
I'm so glad they added in the Auto feature because there's only so much a index finger can take 😆..
Now they need a gun called A Psycho's Sketch
lvoa with 3 striker slaps i love it
Godly🔥🔥🔥
🔥🔥
The new auto rifles also pair well with negotiators.
That's what I'm doing!
@@dl4087 NDilemma with rifle was the only way I would use it. Considering it was my old build before the Auto. Now it feels just Dangerous. 😈
UIC15 MOD2 with all mods for crit chance/dmg, fires a bit slower but with eagle grasps you dont need any more mods for stability or acc (you can always put them on and make it a laser accurate rifle with no crosshair movement), other than that i already had this set up for when the aces change hits the live server and i love it (2mil-3mil headshots with UIC)
Nice, I definitely need to try the UIC15!
TTK is 🔥
I have a really similar build like this I just creates yesterday using merciless. But I have 2 sp zoo. Thinking to swap a sp zoo chest Peace for perfect entrenche for a little bit of survivalility
We have similar build but mine is 2 overlord for 30% weapon handling with vindicator as primary weap..i tested out on conflict and it slaps hard 😂..
I definitely need to try the Vindicator!
can you turn off the bleed screen effect or is that not a thing ?
you gotta try the umbra build w the mk47 its insaneeeeeeee
Have not played the new update yet. But I plan to ASAP I’ve been waiting for the rework on the MMRs and Rifles.
Bro got that built in rapid fire finger
I grabbed a 716 in descent earlier and it’s unbelievably powerful in there now. Just tears stuff up.
For my regular grindology, I feel like the sun shinned on my poor butt for once. Both my go-to PVE builds work really well within the framework of the seasonal directive. A Hunters Fury build that generates a lot of bonus armor can really let you deal with that reflective damage buff pretty well. I also found the eagle bearer to be great for this, but you gotta land headshot kills.
oh hell yeah, this is basically mine except Heartbreaker with Flatline on the lightweight
Nice, that sounds fun!
Hey Rogue, this looks like a great build and I look forward to trying it out soon. I just wanna ask, what do you think of the UIC-15 post-update? I think it feels pretty decent even if a bit slower than other rifles. It's got really high stability and accuracy right out of the gate and pretty decent damage to boot.
Just tried it out thanks to your comment- you're right it's incredible stable/accurate! Honestly still trying to wrap my head around all of the options, there's so much variability with small differences between them
They got NB back on here
The rifle change to full auto is nice . I dislike the nerf to the standard Sig 716 . The weapon didn't do anything great . It was just a good all around weapon before the patch .
for rifles its the best fully semiautomatic option disregarding m16 being top in both sustain and burst dps.
I tried playing stranded tanker with the modifier on and couldn’t even get past the first boss. Not sure how he was killing me but I turned that modifier off. I felt broken to me.
Enemies have their own modifiers. There’s one that if you hit at midrange, the damage you deal to the enemy you will also deal to yourself. I learned this the hard way. This specific modifier you have to hit at short or long range
@@bvr09 which sucks because most of the encounters are fought mid range. That's literally the sweet pot for combat. This modifier either needs to be rework or it should go.
@S3M3E3 You can view the descriptions and functions of the Hostile Modifiers within the Modifier menu if that helps 👍
@ oh ok I’ll have to dig alil more into. Thanks
This build teaming p with someone to get you Hollow point and they a perk to compliment the team with DMG out of coer would be insane damage.
Try using heartbreaker for 20% RIFLE dmg instead of overlord. with ninjabike
Im using strikers on the UIC 15 slapping 5mil crits its so good
Nice!!
They should do the same for pistols
Just added chain determined to this and I'm almost one shooting npcs
If you're in the camp of being annoyed you have to make yet another new build OR are getting frustrated your striker build or traditional DPS build is so squishy, I have good news.
The heartbreak still works. Yep, that memento, picaro holster, tried and true works just fine. Yes the holster went from 15% to 12%, however, playing solo for the past 2 days on heroic PvE I think I was downed once (all thanks to the build I am not some awesome player).
So if your annoyed, that build still works just fine.
NinjaBike is just a very good well rounded exotic, and I still dont have one. I think i need to target farm them.
It's definitely applicable to a wide number of builds! Good luck!
Wen it cames to rifles damage and RPM and stability definitely the SIG CQB its the bestin game right now the damage and the RPM it’s perfect i try all the are good but the best it’s definitely the SIG CQB
working on similar but using Ravenous instead.
The Ravenous is quite strong 👀
Does determined work with the rifles since they are full automatic
Yes 👍
Very not related, but since we don't have a Roadmap yet, where is the apparel event for this season or is the stalker collab they are doing the replacement?
Not gonna be apperal event this season. Stalker collab will have 4 outfits but don’t remember if we will earn or purchase them. There is a ton of apperal to purchase in the store too.
@crisscrosscruz2034 They confirmed no traditional Apparel Event coming in Y6S2
Time to dust off my Baker's Dozo
That Lightweight M4 is my favorite so far. I decided to try it with my Striker build when it randomly dropped for me yesterday with the Strained talent. I added some stability and handling mods. It makes me wish it would just be tuned into an AR
How well does it work with ravenous and merciless?
Merciless overall is still iffy in my opinion, didn't get too many good buffs. The Ravenous is quite strong, I'm working on testing it right now 👍
You did it! Your brought back the ability for me to use my life long love lightweight M4 😩😩😩
The Pestilence LMG is sneaky good now.
Yeah I wanted to use it with heartbreaker and umbra, but as it seems there’s a bug with umbra or did they change smth how it works. Can’t seem to get stacks anywhere.
@@_FIow I also ran into this bug. I have to either restart the game or travel to NY and back to make Umbra work again.
would you pls make a rifle variation of your "slayer 2.0" for the new update
Honestly, not sure I would use a Rifle with that setup. But if there's a relevant Rifle PVP build I discover I'll pass it along 👍
hey rogue. unrelated but have you ever been hit with a bug that has one of your characters unable to login (continuously getting delta 4'd) but your other characters can load in fine? happened to me today and was wondering if theres any fix
I'm not sure about an immediate fix, but the team is aware and looking into it 👉 x.com/Daria_General/status/1851638927506968831
My Aces and Eights build is limited by lack of certain pieces but 2 pieces I'm keeping are the Weapons, Yes Relic isn't the best but it shines in my build, but my main weapon is a Lightweight M4 with Rifleman.
"Why an M4 instead of Artist's Tool?" I hear you ask.
One more weapon mod slot, so it is more variable. True it'll be less damage potential but with the M4 you reach it quicker and it can bridge the deficit with certain mods, perks, gear and conditions, Headhunter chest piece being a notable choice for my build 💙
I do the same builds however mine never seem to hit as hard. Perhaps my expertise being only 16 is the issue?
My Artist's Tool is only at Expertise 10. Do you have any Modifiers on that might change damage at different ranges?
any new build for the merciless rifle?
I haven't found any I liked, personally. Merciless didn't get any great buffs
@@RogueGold full auto sounded like a buff, i figured high rpm build would be fun.
@@tony203x No auto for Merciless...binary trigger.
Taking 2s to kill a purple and 6s to kill a boss means that the DPS is lacking a bit. I'm getting around 12m DPS on an all red focus vigilance rifle build which soundsgreat but you cant easily switch NPCs whilst focused. Switching to glass canon gives around 9.5m headshot dps. Not bad but I'll stick to 11m body shot DPS on my Pestilence build.
Does anyone know what his chest piece appearance is?
It's the "Gamology" skin from the store 👍
@@RogueGoldhey rouge last thing my sister really like your mask and I got her into the game, is your mask a limited time thing?
@imyuriibruv The mask was the Rank 100 completion reward for the Premium Season Pass back in Season 11. I'm afraid there's no other way to get it right now
if they could just let us select fire for all weapons that would be nice.
IMO OD with sadist outclasses rifles with Aces especially with centurion holster and a wicked pack.
I think 3 Pieces of Aces & Eoghts, Ninjabike , 2 Pieces of new brand set would be better
Fox prayer is pretty much meta for any rìle build lol
Anybody try the ravenous
lol where'd patrickwolf's comment go such a negative nancy
What did he say?
You know you hit the big leagues when that troll come out from under his bridge
@@MrPawsPause was crying that the build wasn't meta/good LOL
Looks disappointing. I swapped in a rifle in my eagle bearer AR CD build and did more damage. Weapon is not optimized but it seems CD/CC is still better
Don't have too much fun with the full auto rifles, or they'll nerf it next patch.
i dont understand why Ubisoft give to much focus on Ac franchise then Division ..
"You get a cronus... And YOU get a cronus... We ALL get a cronus" 😅
I hate this mind numbing song I wanna smash the radio how can I turn it off for good forever? 2:37
Rifle builds now?!! Haha
New modifiers suck and are bugged
¿¿¿¿Semi auto now full auto???
😂now I'm really sick of this
Step back please 😠
This update honestly doesn't hit its just extra extra repetitive stuff i hate that i have to do 6 things on my journey just to unlock the next one just for me to do something over again ex my journey at level 2 said destroy equipment but at level 1 i was already deleting i had to wait to unlock level 2 just to re destroy equipment thats trash
The changes to weapons etc is great but all spoiled by reflective damage crap. And no I cant play without it because I match make and then find some idiot running it and the population is so low in game that its hard enough to find a group doing the things I want .Some great changes but more bad changes than I've ever seen in this game. Do NOT like the shape the games in right noew
I feel you. We had to kick a few peoole from legendary missions because they refused to turn this off.
I’m against the auto rifles it really shows who has skill b4 and after the update (how ever if the mpcs aren’t absorbing bullets the it’s not so bad) but ima still pull the trigger #xbox #day1player
Damage is bad
Build is not good
Did you even watch the video? He said it was a template. Change it up to fit your playstyle, or don't use it at all and be a meta slave. It's all personal preference.
This build still wack tho
@@EnragedPostman Fuck are you talking about fool. I don't give a fuck if its science project its NOT GOOD.
Did Merciless became automatic as well? That gun could always do some fnky stuff, it just got completelly fked by its semi auto terribleness and its massive recoil.
It did not receive the change