Thanks for visiting these 2 places. The Panjianyuan market looks more interesting, than these 2 examples which just look like normal shopping malls, less interesting and expensive not many shoppers about. I don't expect to buy genuine antiques, but if I can get some ornaments that look well designed, knowingly fake, under 100 yuan, I would buy. I bought a metal figure of Bhudda the other day for 50 yuan, down from 140, but one lady wanted 300 for a vase smaller than a teacup, so left it, although I liked the design.
Yeah, you are correct - you have to be willing to walk away as some things are just way over priced but it is all part of the fun of visiting that type of mall. 🙏🏻
It looks more like a higher end shopping mall than a market for people to come and haggle. By the way, they are starting to do direct flights from Edinburgh to Beijing this summer.
Go direct to Guangzhou that’s where you get the proper cheap high quality clothing and shoes etc everting from factory, no tourist prices to only local prices
Thanks for the walk down memory lane. I visited this market in 2006 and recall way more shoppers and excitement. Times have changed for the worst perhaps?🤔 Certainly lost the old vibe that made this mall unique among others.
Yeah, the first time I went there in 2016 it was so full of people and it had a great vibe... I am not sure about it now and I don't think I will be in a rush to go back unless for a specific reason. 👍🏻
The lady cleaning the glass was so funny... we ended up having a brief talk and laugh. I don't think she realised I was talking to a camera. Brilliant.
@@ForAllLifesAdventures hahahaha. .....ya she must be trying to complete her daily work ....and I understood the western manners...So for the time being we just have to compromise 💟💟💟😸
Another great video mate. I was shocked how those markets have cleaned up, and died. I'm sure the market traders have moved to cheaper premises a little less central, and there are still places where you can buy dodgy cheap gear. Of course plenty of people went bust in the pandemic, and where I am, new stores are popping up here and there as people get back on their feet. There are still plenty of closed units, and we've had a couple of big chain supermarkets close down. Sorry about your problem with the p#les. You'll have to sit on that one, lol. Thanks again.
😂 haha, yeah, some words for a Glaswegian are difficult to get right... Pearls is one of them! I agree with the changing feel to the retail units, same her in Beijing, places closing and new ones opening - it is the circle of life I guess. 👌
Temple of Heaven and Pearl Market are next to each other and you can visit both together… to get to the Silk Street Market you would have to take taxi or the metro. The metro is straightforward for Silk Street. 👍
Couple decades ago foreigners going to Beijing would visit the Xiushui Rd market, and Xiangyang Rd market in Shanghai. The stuffs sold there were called "A grade commodities". That suggests there were also B grade, C grade etc. For the A grade basically same quality and indistinguishable from the real ones. You pay like half the price or even less. For many I think it's just a kind of fun and experience. Personally I'm not a fan of such practice and certainly not proud of it as Chinese. But I guess it always has its place in a certain period of development. Another famous place for cheaper and poorer yet acceptable quality stuff is Yiwu, Zhejiang. They're very rich today and have mostly departed from the counterfeit industry. When economy keeps growing, there will always be a time people find it necessary to respect and protect IP of their own. In the past decade I found quite a few Chinese companies selling products in their own original design with top notch quality. That said, I think IP is certainly abused by the other side as well. There is a documentary "The Patent Scam" showing how extreme it could get. The right place I think, should be somewhere in the middle. IP laws can define the rules of market and offer some degree of protection for R&D and investment while not building too high a barrier to strangle innovation. Fair competition and market disruptors should be allowed and welcomed.
I agree with you on respecting the i.p of designers etc... great point and I think there are always alternative for people who can not afford the expensive prices. However people will want to get that image so there will always be space in a market for the products that fill that gap. 🙏🏻
I’ve just come back from Beijing recently, with my last time going being back in 2018, silk market was depressing this time and nothing like pre covid, store staff said there’s been more policies around selling fakes so it’s a lot harder to find them now. Can still find sellers trying to clear out their fakes in other markets like BaiRong but yeah, not the same
Yeah, it has all changed and the old Silk Road was big part of the Beijing experience but I can understand why things changed because it was such an obvious knock off place and could generate negativity! But I did like the experience there but to be honest, I did not buy much….
I was so happy to see the cloisonné shop. There is the cobalt blue and pink rose container as well as the white n pink next-next on the right . exactly the ones gifted by a Chinese friend. I screenshot n clipped that part of your video n favourited it. ❤
I would still suggest the same two markets as they are beginning to open up more units but you will have to work harder to find the stuff you would have previously been able to get 👍
A friend of mine went to Thailand recently. He noticed all the Chinese tourist going to shop at the "REAL" branded shops. While the western tourist went to the fake market.😂😂😂 Not a fan of shopping but the shopping centre looks spick and span
I used to see the same in Beijing, people coming to Beijing to go to the fake malls to buy stuff.... I did the first time I came on a trip but after that I realised I just didn't want to own too much stuff. I keep that philosophy now!! own little and keep life simple. ✌️
It's the sign of the times, the global economy is headed towards a major contraction and the Chinese economy will also feel the consequences just like all countries in the world. People are more careful with their money which is a bad thing for traders and shops, this is also a global phenomenom. There already is and there will be an even greater devaluation of the US dollar aka inflation which will also impact the euro in Europe and will also have consequences for the RMB because all global currencies are tied together in one way or another. It is also telling that it's getting increasingly hard to find real fake products in China, however it's still possible to find some by foreign brand "inspired" products.😉😉
Thanks for the comment - a great additional to the chat, much appreciated and I think you explain the key elements well. I also think China is changing and people expect quality but are careful with their money. 🙏🏻
Piles!!!. Man you didn't show any piles!!🤣🤣🤣 A fact you need to know about those 'piles'. They come in multi coloured, large and small. You should know that these are cultured 'piles'. And the different colouring like greenish, brownish or even pink and blue are made artificially by bombarding them with gamma ray. Yes, gamma ray as in atomic or nuclear process. If they are cultured 'piles' which are unprocessed, it's not very round or shinny but cheaper. Processed round ones have added costs. You won't find naturally round 'piles' often; but if you do they cost a lot. Just a thing or two about those 'piles'. 🤣🤣🤣🤣 There's more, but I'm not getting into that.
😂 I know Dave, I couldn’t say the word correctly at all!! I got stuck in a brain loop and had to cut out a chunk of video because I couldn’t say it right 😂
G'day Iain, the volume of your video is a bit on the low side causing difficulty in hearing your voice or what you are trying to say. Please adjust it according as it should not detract from your message. Thank you.
Apologies about the sound on this, it might be low at a couple of spots when I am speaking... 😬 Lesson Learned!!
Very nice video as usual, Ian. Awesome song at the end. Woh....Cheers from Malaysia
I love that song and it has no copyright so it is free to use - 🙏🏻
Wow! My wife and I bought a lot of stuff from the Silk street market. Couple years ago it was filled with people. Your right, how times have changed.
That mall is huge but amazingly tidy and clean everywhere. Nice video.
Thank you, thanks for watching. 🙏🏻
I miss those times:
Buyer: "How much for the shoes?"
Seller: "175$!"
Buyer: "I give you 8$!"
Seller: "No!"
Buyer: "Ok bye!"
Seller: "Wait, ok 8$!"
Yeah, I agree… no longer there in the Beijing markets now!!
wow what a view from that Terrace!
I didn't know that bar was there, a good find with a great view.
Thanks for visiting these 2 places. The Panjianyuan market looks more interesting, than these 2 examples which just look like normal shopping malls, less interesting and expensive not many shoppers about. I don't expect to buy genuine antiques, but if I can get some ornaments that look well designed, knowingly fake, under 100 yuan, I would buy. I bought a metal figure of Bhudda the other day for 50 yuan, down from 140, but one lady wanted 300 for a vase smaller than a teacup, so left it, although I liked the design.
Yeah, you are correct - you have to be willing to walk away as some things are just way over priced but it is all part of the fun of visiting that type of mall. 🙏🏻
It looks more like a higher end shopping mall than a market for people to come and haggle.
By the way, they are starting to do direct flights from Edinburgh to Beijing this summer.
I seen the news about the direct flight to Edinburgh, so good to know. 🙏🏻
Go direct to Guangzhou that’s where you get the proper cheap high quality clothing and shoes etc everting from factory, no tourist prices to only local prices
Hi like yourself Im from Glasgow -I think it's a world wide thing remember Paddy's Market? - closed down and the Barras isn't what it used to be.
All change, I was planning a trip out that way when I get back... not sure if it is worth it now Hugh. mmm!!
@@ForAllLifesAdventures The Barras is still worth a visit
Thanks for the walk down memory lane. I visited this market in 2006 and recall way more shoppers and excitement. Times have changed for the worst perhaps?🤔 Certainly lost the old vibe that made this mall unique among others.
Yeah, the first time I went there in 2016 it was so full of people and it had a great vibe... I am not sure about it now and I don't think I will be in a rush to go back unless for a specific reason. 👍🏻
🤠🤓🤓🤓I was disappointed when both shown up....the glass lens and the glass cleaner😂 anyway both is doing a a Great Job for the world💯✍️
The lady cleaning the glass was so funny... we ended up having a brief talk and laugh. I don't think she realised I was talking to a camera. Brilliant.
@@ForAllLifesAdventures hahahaha. .....ya she must be trying to complete her daily work ....and I understood the western manners...So for the time being we just have to compromise 💟💟💟😸
Probably people get bargains online at Taobao.
Yeah, true. A lot moving online including the bargains. 🙏🏻
Another great video mate. I was shocked how those markets have cleaned up, and died.
I'm sure the market traders have moved to cheaper premises a little less central, and there are still places where you can buy dodgy cheap gear.
Of course plenty of people went bust in the pandemic, and where I am, new stores are popping up here and there as people get back on their feet. There are still plenty of closed units, and we've had a couple of big chain supermarkets close down.
Sorry about your problem with the p#les. You'll have to sit on that one, lol.
Thanks again.
😂 haha, yeah, some words for a Glaswegian are difficult to get right... Pearls is one of them!
I agree with the changing feel to the retail units, same her in Beijing, places closing and new ones opening - it is the circle of life I guess. 👌
Are temple of heaven, pearl market and silk street in walking distance?
Temple of Heaven and Pearl Market are next to each other and you can visit both together… to get to the Silk Street Market you would have to take taxi or the metro. The metro is straightforward for Silk Street. 👍
Couple decades ago foreigners going to Beijing would visit the Xiushui Rd market, and Xiangyang Rd market in Shanghai. The stuffs sold there were called "A grade commodities". That suggests there were also B grade, C grade etc. For the A grade basically same quality and indistinguishable from the real ones. You pay like half the price or even less. For many I think it's just a kind of fun and experience.
Personally I'm not a fan of such practice and certainly not proud of it as Chinese. But I guess it always has its place in a certain period of development. Another famous place for cheaper and poorer yet acceptable quality stuff is Yiwu, Zhejiang. They're very rich today and have mostly departed from the counterfeit industry. When economy keeps growing, there will always be a time people find it necessary to respect and protect IP of their own. In the past decade I found quite a few Chinese companies selling products in their own original design with top notch quality. That said, I think IP is certainly abused by the other side as well. There is a documentary "The Patent Scam" showing how extreme it could get.
The right place I think, should be somewhere in the middle. IP laws can define the rules of market and offer some degree of protection for R&D and investment while not building too high a barrier to strangle innovation. Fair competition and market disruptors should be allowed and welcomed.
I agree with you on respecting the i.p of designers etc... great point and I think there are always alternative for people who can not afford the expensive prices. However people will want to get that image so there will always be space in a market for the products that fill that gap. 🙏🏻
I’ve just come back from Beijing recently, with my last time going being back in 2018, silk market was depressing this time and nothing like pre covid, store staff said there’s been more policies around selling fakes so it’s a lot harder to find them now. Can still find sellers trying to clear out their fakes in other markets like BaiRong but yeah, not the same
Yeah, it has all changed and the old Silk Road was big part of the Beijing experience but I can understand why things changed because it was such an obvious knock off place and could generate negativity! But I did like the experience there but to be honest, I did not buy much….
I was so happy to see the cloisonné shop. There is the cobalt blue and pink rose container as well as the white n pink next-next on the right . exactly the ones gifted by a Chinese friend. I screenshot n clipped that part of your video n favourited it. ❤
Thank you and so glad you got to see that ❤️
Hi what markets would you recommend for cheap products like clothings and souvenirs in Beijing?
I would still suggest the same two markets as they are beginning to open up more units but you will have to work harder to find the stuff you would have previously been able to get 👍
A friend of mine went to Thailand recently.
He noticed all the Chinese tourist going to shop at the "REAL" branded shops.
While the western tourist went to the fake market.😂😂😂
Not a fan of shopping but the shopping centre looks spick and span
What do you mean by "REAL" branded shops...?
I used to see the same in Beijing, people coming to Beijing to go to the fake malls to buy stuff.... I did the first time I came on a trip but after that I realised I just didn't want to own too much stuff. I keep that philosophy now!! own little and keep life simple. ✌️
Just back from beijing, silk market was dead, sad to see, used to be class. Now everyone buys replica online
The pear market still has some replica stores but not the same - sad, I liked going there.
Where would. You recomend going now to get replicas in beijing?
@@annaliu3114 The Pearl Market is the only place to find anything that you might be looking for but you do have to look... and ask.
@@annaliu3114 avoid markets, it's all online and delivered to your door..my wife is Chinese. Was in Beijing recently, ordered lots Gucci and Kenzo 👌
It's the sign of the times, the global economy is headed towards a major contraction and the Chinese economy will also feel the consequences just like all countries in the world.
People are more careful with their money which is a bad thing for traders and shops, this is also a global phenomenom.
There already is and there will be an even greater devaluation of the US dollar aka inflation which will also impact the euro in Europe and will also have consequences for the RMB because all global currencies are tied together in one way or another.
It is also telling that it's getting increasingly hard to find real fake products in China, however it's still possible to find some by foreign brand "inspired" products.😉😉
That is why the dual circulation strategy comes into play from 2020, with boosting internal consumption is a priority.
Thanks for the comment - a great additional to the chat, much appreciated and I think you explain the key elements well. I also think China is changing and people expect quality but are careful with their money. 🙏🏻
@@ForAllLifesAdventures Best of all, changing tastes nowadays with gen Z and millennial consumers putting premium on quality and functionality
@@thisiskevin1000 🙏🏻
The ones in Shanghai have closed down!
Really? Suppose to go back in July.
I think it is a sign of the times Ben... Maybe some other similar places might open up elsewhere but I am not so sure. What do you think?
@@ForAllLifesAdventures I hope so, Iain! I need new shoes 🤣
Piles!!!. Man you didn't show any piles!!🤣🤣🤣
A fact you need to know about those 'piles'. They come in multi coloured, large and small.
You should know that these are cultured 'piles'. And the different colouring like greenish, brownish or even pink and blue are made artificially by bombarding them with gamma ray. Yes, gamma ray as in atomic or nuclear process.
If they are cultured 'piles' which are unprocessed, it's not very round or shinny but cheaper. Processed round ones have added costs.
You won't find naturally round 'piles' often; but if you do they cost a lot.
Just a thing or two about those 'piles'.
🤣🤣🤣🤣
There's more, but I'm not getting into that.
😂 I know Dave, I couldn’t say the word correctly at all!! I got stuck in a brain loop and had to cut out a chunk of video because I couldn’t say it right 😂
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G'day Iain, the volume of your video is a bit on the low side causing difficulty in hearing your voice or what you are trying to say. Please adjust it according as it should not detract from your message. Thank you.
Oh no!!! I think it was the mic I have tried to use... I think it was too low. such an amateur haha. That you fro letting me know.
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I am not?