8 T/Fighter Swarm vs. 2 Aggressors | X-Wing Miniatures Game Battle Report
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- Опубліковано 13 тра 2015
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The one and only 8 T/Fighter Swarm versus the mighty Aggressors.
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I have never seen such a nervous and unrelaxed player. Especially with a friend, this game should be fun even under tournament circumstances. The player on the left seems to be a very nice guy, but the S&V player... Jesus... Take a break!
+LeKnuffel I totally felt the same..... like chill out seriously
+LeKnuffel Yeah, it really made me nervous and kinda on edge because I didn't want him to have a bad time, but he was also being really bad mannered. Having tactics crumble in on themselves and having your best laid plans fail is supposed to be fun! If not, why even play if it's just stressful?
+LeKnuffel I was about to comment the same thing. Maybe it's just his accent, but probably not. Guy acts like a total dick the entire match. Barking out orders, sighing and moaning any time it's not his turn, scolding the other player.. the only time he sounded happy was when he was winning a dice toss. Thrawn appears to be a textbook example of "that guy". As far as presentation of a battle report though... outstanding job. Great editing and very neatly presented. It was a lot of fun to watch.. just.. learn to relax a bit more, my man. I bet you'll get a ton more followers if the mood lightens up a bit.
Super !! Danke !
Guy on right is a bit salty.
He's ALOT salty. "EVADED!" Pfft. Naked die rolls are pure luck.
I quit watching because he was so annoying. IDK how the dude on the right wasn't getting frustrated with him. Well maybe he was and just wasn't showing it.
"Two evades. Evaded." Man that line over and over couldn't sound more smug.
It's very annoying
Range 2 range 2 range 2
That was a very nice video. Thankyou for posting it. I sincerely appreciate the edits and annotations that allow me to watch it very quickly. Please consider posting more battle reports in this style!
Fenixius Thanks for your comment! I try to do my best to give you the best batrep experience. Nevertheless, I have to watch narrowly any changes about my batrep style.
I'll disagree with the Right player chilling out. I'm watching this for entertainment value and to learn about this game, and seeing someone emotionally invested in their little fighters makes it more enjoyable for me as a viewer. I can see how the X-Wing Commanders out there don't like that in their opponents, but when I'm watching basketball or football or whatever, it's nice to see emotion, so as a casual viewer, it was fun to watch!
I would enjoy watching this a whole lot more if the player on the right would not seem so upset when the dice don't go his way. The frustrated sighs make it unpleasant to watch. Other than that I like the setup you have here and how organized everything is. Unfortunately the frustrated player makes this stressful to watch so I will either not be watching any more episodes or I will watch with the sound off.
+Andrew Nicoll Thanks for watching and for your comment. Pity! Maybe our latest battle reports can change your mind?
+Thrawn | X-Wing Miniatures Game - Battle Reports ...first off awesome video on a tie swarm. new to the game myself. i was really put off by Thrawn's excitement at every single evade that basically saved his azz. for video quality and great list matchup = 10 out of 10. For your sportsmanship and your somewhat rude respect for the other player a measly 2 out of 10. My favorite aspect of this game is just the coolness of playing a space battle with friends and/or strangers. My only hope is i don't play often with people like thrawn, just doesn't seem as fun for the guy on the left. I also could have sworn there was a range 3 defense roll for guy on left that he missed rolling an extra die that ended up killing his tie unit. thrawn was so keen on all the range 2's despite that part of this game is learning would have been nice if he had same attitude as guy on left i could be wrong but its just supposed to fun. losing is fun too ;-)
+Andrew Nicoll Honestly I couldn't get past the terrible music choice. Not going to be able to continue watching this one. Let's get some more creative things going than some guy yelling "Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey!"
I like how after he says "evaded" he waves he hand across the dice like hes revealing a magic trick. Its all in the presentation!! lol
Great, clean presentation. Keep up the good work!
Why did the aggressors not recover shields after a kill?
Very entertaining video, thank you for taking the time to make it!
Brobot player forgot to recover shields. That bumper-car situation with the tie swarm really did him in.
player to the right behave really badly. Just a lot of complaints on the dice and what range he was . hope you can take this win and learn to become a more humble player, then you might have more fun! Great video editing
Great editing/organization, subscribed!
Man if someone said "I am unbeatable" to me at the end of the game, I think I'd reach across and slap them in the face.
+Kingnova3000 You are a fragile flower, so easily wounded.
My soul it hurts. Such a vicious biting come back. Man how will I ever recover....
Great Report. Love the speed up during movement. You still show movement and blocking, but it does make the watching the game better.
Thanks again
David Brennan You're welcome, bro!
David Brennan Wait, but why did the Aggressor(s) sometimes move through the Tie Fighters? My group has got every rule down except movement and blocking.
the right player forget to recover shields when killing tie fighters.......
well that was uncomfortable!
a piece of advice thrawn, at 36:50 you drop a die and then keep the result because it was beneficial to you. that is widely considered to be bad form. Correct form would be to reroll. You'll get called on that during tournaments as well.
Great match, and a great video. You have a well designed setup. I enjoyed watching the match. Especially liked the fast forward for the movement.
+Elderrook
Thanks a lot!
Report was good but man...sv player: chill out..crying about the crit on tie thats destroyed anyway? In our store we dont even bother drawing cards for ship that dies and this guy was like "crit. Crit.CRIT!"...
+vitalisPL I agree about chilling out but it is part of the rules to draw all the damage that is dealt to a ship even if it surpasses its hull value. This is actually advantageous to the owner of the downed ship since it has a higher probability of removing a direct hit from the deck than anything else
+vitalisPL I do see the point of drawing out all of the damage but there was no point to make such a big deal out of flipping the crit. If anything I would have flipped the crit for laughs to add a little flavor about how the TIE pilot went down.
Again, great production value. Y'all always use a great mat to contrast the colors of the ships which makes the optics great for us viewers. What image is that on the mat? Is there a website to purchase it?
Great video and the speed up of he movement really makes it a pleasure to watch.
My only negative critique is the choice of music during the movement phase.
Poul Erik Holmelund Which music do you prefer?
Thrawn | X-Wing Miniatures Game - Battle Reports [english/german]
Something that is a little less "danceclub". Its a minor issue though, the video overall is great and I can just hit Mute during the movement :)
What laser did you use to check the firing arc? Plus great video. I love how you sped up during certain parts.
chris www.amazon.de/LINIENLASER-650NM-5MW-90%C2%B0-70105025/dp/B005LGULI4
Lol at that heavy sigh every time the ties land a shot
where have you gone thrawn? i miss your vids. i have started a x wing battlereport channel in your absence heavily inspired by your editing
Wow. This is an awesome battlereport! It makes one want to do the same! Really great!
I have a question - The ID tokens on the 8 academy pilots. In those awesome colors - Where can I get my hands on them?
+Daniel Kansberg They were probably custom painted.
Thrawn you forgot about IG-88A's ability to recover shields hahah
A Gc I know, I know. XD
Very enjoyable game to watch. Thanks :]
Azalin Lore You're welcome!!! :)
Are those specialty ship ids and target locks or did you simply paint them? Very nice video by the way - clear and efficient play and sped up appropriately to save time. Nice.
Will Morgan Thanks! I've simply painted them. At the moment, I'm not a big fan of special effects when it comes to a tabletop game like X-Wing. We are purists and we would like to bring you a pure X-Wing game experience. :-)
The initiative should have gone to the tie swarm as it had less than 100 points.
I think the Aggressors should of recovered 5 shields that game after destroying the ties.
Matthias Maccabeus That's right, but I like it hardcore! XD To be honest, I've forgotten it for no reason. If I had recharged my shields, Torben were totally overwhelmed by my force. No doubt.
nice playmat :)
Do you have a link to where to get one or the image itself?
great video, well presented, good game :)
Nice video edition. Congratulations. Do you guys use any app for squadron building?
+Daniel Lima de Oliveira
xwing-builder.co.uk/build
geordanr.github.io/xwing/
Have you tried "Startactics" for Android?
+Daniel Lima de Oliveira
No, I haven't tried it yet.
I dont understand: Why didnt the IG player recover his shields with both his models, when they destroyed a Tie Fighter everytime? Didnt the Pilot Ability say that they may recover 1 Shield everytime they destroy an enemy?
+Friedrich Faustus
simply forgotten
+Thrawn | X-Wing Miniatures Game - Battle Reports
It happens in our games all the time!
Hey guys! Great job. I'm wondering where you get your coloured tokens for your pilots, ships and target locks. Would you mind telling us?
Jacob Kokura Thank you. I've painted all the X-Wing stuff ... because it looks cool in the video. XD
Who makes the colored markers on the TIE fighters?
E-VADED!
love it
when they make there moves at 18 to 19 min mark. I thought there is some sort of rule when the base bump or overlap.
It's like if Sprockets played X-wing!
Where did you guys get your card sleeves?
Where do you get your custom parts from?
I've never seen anyone roll the dice so wild
Hello, fantastic video, you tell me where you got colored dials?
David Betancort Rivero Those are original dials. I've only painted them. :-)
Thrawn | X-Wing Miniatures Game - Battle Reports [english/german] thanks for answering
Can't help but feel the players here fully understand the rules but miss the point - the game is supposed to be fun! There's an awful lot of sighs when the dice are rolled, very tense discussions of whether something is range 2 or 3 and no laughs to be found at all!
It's possible to win and have fun. It's also very possible to loose and have even more fun! Lighten up guys!
Richard Spruce I guess, you've missunderstood the meaning of a boot camp. :P No offense, I know what you mean. But in the second half of the vid, there is lot of (evade) fun. I promise you! XD
Thrawn | X-Wing Miniatures Game - Battle Reports [english/german] Didn't know if you are the right side player, but I assure you that playing against a one who makes a lot of nervous gesture / sobs / tense comments is nothing but a pain. I've recently played against a person who went crazy for choosing the wrong manuever... after 5 minutes of his gesture and impolitness I forfeit the game. Now the video is great and you guys made a great things sharing this, but I think Richard Spruce got the point. The right players is nervous and quick and at a certain point he repeats the range distance and didn't let the opponent take measurement. I really don't want to offend anybody, but I think this is impolitness, and for a person like me who got the opportunity to play few times in a month that really takes away all the fun of the game.
Richard Spruce you can have fun without constantly laughin ;)
Just a little comment on the squads:
TIEs were the best (worst if you're flying them...) possible fuel for IG88s' Shield regen on kill.
If he didn't want to go for Howlrunner and was bent on 8 TIEs, instead of investing 4 points into useless initiative bet, he should have changed the generic for one of the following:
- naturally very elusive Dark Curse,
- Nightbeast who gets evade & focus every turn as long as he flies green,
- Backstabber for extra punch,
- a TIE/fo for that 1 extra shield, Target Locks & funky manouvers.
Too bad.
using inertial dampeners on turn2 was a capital mistake. the tie player should have used his swarm to completely block you in (easy if you remember they have barrel rolls....) and finished the damages ship.even accounting for attrition, 5 or 6 ties is more then enough to keep 1 ig blocked and whittle him down after that.
Tips: (tie player) -remember barrel rolls! it could've helped a lot in early game.
-use damaged ties first as movement blockers (ig crashes into you, you cannot be declared as it's target and will have more boats left for end-game)
(IG player) -Ease up, fly casual. no need to repeat things (i.e. "Evaded"every time after the dice are down and you both know already that the attack has been evaded makes you seem like a douchebag.) obvious arc/range checks on your opponent (rechecks even) also not very sportsmanlike.
-remember your ship and card abilities. the shield recoverything has been pointed out already, but with a gunner on your boat, after a bad first roll (1 or even 2 hits) don't spend the target lock, it's likely the guy will evade, you'll get a second roll and THEN you can choose to spend or not spend your target lock. (if you roll 3 hits on first go, using target lock IS advantageous since you're already doing damage (with that 4th hit)even if the tie rolls 3 evades.
(pro-tip) spending the target lock on your re-roll attack (through gunner) is even better because any re-rolls that crit, will stay CRIT. it's only the first roll of crits that the heavy laser cannon turns into hits.
bris Fields give you the stress after the perform action step, so you actually get a shance to perform an action when flying through/onto them.
LongLiveStopMotion2
No, you are not allowed to perform actions, because you get the stress token before the perform action step (step No. 6)!
► FAQ 24 Apr 2015 p. 4 : - Moving into and Through Debris Clouds -
When a ship executes a maneuver in which either the maneuver template or the ship’s base physically overlaps a debris cloud token, follow these steps:
1. Execute the maneuver as normal, but assign a stress token to that ship after the “Check Pilot Stress” step. (step No 4).
► Rulebook p.7:
Step No 6: Perform Action
The ship may perform one action. A ship with one or more stress tokens cannot perform Actions.
4:12 I thought you have to set the range finder at the center of your tile?
No need to roll for initiative in this situation - Torben has the lowest squad point total.
Tournament rules page 2
The player with the lowest squad point total decides which player has initiative. If both players are tied with the same squad point total, toss a coin. The winner of the coin toss decides who has initiative.
5ynthesizerpatel Yeah, you're totally right. I was a creature of habit.
Was there a reason he forgot to put the shields back due to A's ability? Anyway the agressor player has no idea what he is doing ...
I don't know if you have the equipment capability, but I find overdubbing to be better for x-wing battle reports. Cuts out all the little discussions about range/line of sight/etc. and allows you to explain reasoning for moves/actions/etc. and where you believe your flying flaws were. Really like your videos, just some constructive criticism.
Nice battle report. At 31:48, Violet should have had 1 more die. Otherwise, nice video. PS, subbed.
Thanks!
The last tie figther was over the asteroird i think the can not attack or not? 10:22 minute
Advanced sensor is an amazing upgrade but may i suggest try using fire-control-system instead ?
FCS is good all around but it becomes amazing with IG-88B's ability.
For example, you could attack with HLC (or primary weapon) if its not that great of a roll you can hold back on using a focus token, making it easier for your opponent to evade the attack, and then make a secondary weapon attack with Target Lock and focus backup (and after this attack you can acquire another target lock on that ship)
Also with the 2 points you gained you can switch inertia dampners for glitterstim (a wave 7 illicit that basically gives you infinite focus for the rest of the round)
Rohendor I think, it depends on how many ships your enemy is using. If the enemy squad consists of 3 or less ships, I would say, that FCS is the better choice. But if you fight a Swarm (Z-95, T/Fighter), you'll need Advanced Sensors because of bumping, Boost before K-Turn to dodge and so on.
The current META is a 2-ship-META, so I agree, FCS is currently the better choice.
Why did you roll initiative? Shouldn't the 8 Tie at 96 points be able to choose initiative?
+Alvin Simon
yeah
Hi,
I have a question, in 4:42 you use IG 2000B to shoot Tie from Heavy laser canon by 4 dice, but why you repeat that?
I dont understood,
I am new player,
Thanks for help! ;)
Nice video! :)
+Norbert Wrzosek
Hi, the ability of the IG-88 reads:
Once per round, after you perform an attack that does not hit, you may perform an attack with an cannon secondary weapon.
+Thrawn | X-Wing Miniatures Game - Battle Reports
Thanks for answer!
Kings Regards ;)
What tokens does he keep putting on the Tie Fighters each turn?
zach boehme These tokens are acryl Focus tokens, which were a 'X-Wing Regionals 2013' tournament prize.
Fun battle.
Tie fighter rolled only 2 dice on attack instead of 3 on next to last round. Could have made all the difference!
Great Video! A couple of things, though: The player with less squad points automatically gets to choose initiative (not that it mattered in this situation), also it kind of looked like you were measuring the obstacles from range 3 of the dge of the board, its actually range 2
Rick Garza Thanks for watching our vid!!! You are right about the initiative. I was a creature of habit.
Those markers for the tie fighters, can you buy them, or are they painted?
IntelleMatt painted with colours from Edding
+Thrawn | X-Wing Miniatures Game - Battle Reports thank you very much! my mate and I have been searching high and low for such lovely markers. Dont mind if we copy the idea ?
Does going through obstacles cause stress? I found that really confusing.
Atm, there are two types of obstacles in X-Wing: asteroids and debris clouds. Debris clouds cause stress.
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Great job and a great game. I just hope you didn't use up all your luck Thrawn before the big tournament, evading the way you did.
Jake Burker Hahaha, you're right! I hope, Obi-Wan Kenobi is right about "In my experience, there's no such thing as luck", too.
Also the TIE Swarm commander should use those four points for some sort of better TIE, I think Dark Curse is 16, would've helped quite a bit I think.
HeartofAiur Dark Curse has a PS 6. It can be difficult to fly in formation with one PS6 and the rest PS1. The old school T/Fighter Swarm consists of 8 PS1 T/Fighters. It's that classic squad list, that I want have on my channel for next generations of new X-Wing Players.
HeartofAiur Another upgrade I'm looking at four my swarm list is targeting computers. But really I think I would only choose target lock as an action if I were in range 1.
guy on the right sounds like my buddy. Smug when things are going his way, and a lot of sighing and moaning when they aren't. It's kind of entertaining to play against though lol. Good battle report though. Quality production.
Good video, and good game. Will you come to my games and announce when things are evaded?
TheFallorn Haha XD. No sorry, that'll remain unique to my X-Wing batrep videos. ;-)
Why does IG-88B not complete the left 3 bank at 22:27?
+jcoleman10 Because it would bumb into a TIE Fighter.
I thought you had to complete your movement in this game? a few times you stopped mid movement or did not take it is this a pilot skill on a skill Car?
no it's because he bumped into another ship, when the end of the movement ends up in another ship you have to move the ship to the last legal position. A ship can never end up overlapping another ships base so you just move the ship until they collide into each others bases.
thanks man I was misinformed
The guy on screen right is really annoying. Kudos to the guy playing the tie fighters for having the patience to put up with him.
You don't ever used the Ig-88 A ability? You mist recover shield's when destroy enemy model's! ^^
MgDrItTz I know, I know. XD
Is running 8 ties more advantageous than running 6 + Howlrunner?
Christopher Nerf Both squad lists have their advantages and disadvantages. It depends on your own play style which list you may prefer.
Christopher Nerf i would think Howlrunner would give you an edge, might even upgrade the academy pilots to obsidian pilots, if you ran into another tie swarm you get first shot plus re roll from Howlrunner, the only down side is you get one less ship, but that re roll could be huge specially at range 1
Why didn't you use the IG-88A pilot ability? You could have recovered so many shields?
I like the thrill.
the thrill of almost losing? haha
Matthew Murmylo
What else? ;-)
Thrawn | X-Wing Miniatures Game - Battle Reports haha, can you do a Decimator-Lambda Shuttle-Firespray vs 8 Headhunters battle?
sure
i thought when you take a red maneuver and recieve stress you cant perform an action i also thought that when moving you couldnt fly past ships until the turn after you flew into them
Advanced Sensors allows you to perform actions before revealing your dial.
cisco c. And if your manuever lands you in a legal position, you're allowed to keep that position. Simply, ships can fly through each other if they don't land on each other.
Maybe TIE/FO swarm is more viable?
Against the BroBots?
BroBots are not that threat.
Why Veteran Instincts when you know that the TIEs are all PS 1 anyway. I'd rather take Predator, Fire Control System and Glitterstim instead of what he took for his Aggressor list.
i really wish i had the money to get into this
start small, just accumulate over time but start small as a casual player because if you play casual you really dont need very big lists and all that
Good report, but the guy on the right is....... to be polite, i would say that is annoying.
Sind sie Deutsch?
How do the IG-88s get focus after performing red maneuvers? That shouldn't have happened.
Tom Landy Advanced Sensors!!! Please check our squad introducing at the beginning of the batrep vids or look at the video description, there you find links to our squad lists. :-)
Thrawn | X-Wing Miniatures Game - Battle Reports [english/german] Ah, missed that part. :) Do you find AS better than Fire Control Systems on them?
Tom Landy You'll get your answer this Thursday, when our next batrep video is finished and up. :P
Thrawn | X-Wing Miniatures Game - Battle Reports [english/german] Looking forward to it. I haven't had much luck with Aggressors so I hope you guys do. :-)
The IG-88 player needs to relax a bit, if I was the other player I would know when my ships are destroyed he wouldn't need to tell me haha. Good battle report otherwise, keep them coming!
HeartofAiur There is no relax at a boot camp! XD To be honest, I always tell that (destroyed ships) to audience. :-)
Thrawn | X-Wing Miniatures Game - Battle Reports [english/german] Haha, fair enough fair enough, I do like the excitement though, hope to see more :D
when someone calls themself thrawn..
it is soooo frustrating to see how overpowered the IGs are. large ship 3 attack die 3 evade die...wtf...seems to be a bit broken...
lol It's not OP. I've beaten it with 4 A-wings
Dude on the right needs to chill out... Seriously... If someone acted like that at our store, he would never get a game...
I started looking that but... EVADED.
Range Two. Range Two. RangeTwoRangeTwoRANGETWORANGETWO...
I hate to be mean, but you're better off having a few ties with team abilities as opposed to flooding the table. Don't get me wrong, Torben seems like a nice guy but his list was gimping him
+nota mack I agree a slight tweak could help, but back in May 2015 it was a decent list. Now I would use either 5 Black Squad TIEs with crack shots and 25 pts for A) Omega Leader/Comms or B) 1 Obsidian and 1 Academy pilot.
Howlrunner is never a bad choice
The IG88 list could use some work too. VI puts them at PS8, which is okay, but not enough to beat Aces -just other IG88s which is not usually worth it. Adv Sensors without PtL is questionable. These days it makes more sense to do IG88 B and D with Crackshot, Glitterstim, HLC, Fire Control Systems, Title, Autothrusters. Still works well even when stressed.
Ben Kelly I've never invested in S&V so I wouldnt know, but brobots are a terrible pain no matter how they're equipped
+nota mack The idea for IG88s is get range 3 of primary target for first combat exchange, target lock enemy, pop glitterstims, fire HLCs, calculate hits with stims, target lock re-rolls, and if they had any evades, then crackshot. Remember: WHen you reroll atk dice from a Heavy Laser Cannon with a target lock , you get to keep the re-rolled crits!
Well put together video. But the guy on the right needs to stop huffing over everything. Poor sports.
31:45 Imperial player should have rolled 3 dice (Range 1). 32:07 Asteroids don't obscure shoots against large ships. Anyway, nice game and report as usual. Cheers!
Sturmpioniere Asteroids definitely do obstruct shots against large ships.
Guy on the right is just insufferable. Tom seemed like a nice guy, but his opponent is the worst kind of table top player.
+sbaum82
His name is Torben, dude!
+Thrawn | X-Wing Miniatures Game - Battle Reports Well Torben seems like an alright guy.
Wedding ring on the wrong hand. Where I come from that means you married the wrong woman...
Thrawn needs to chill tf out
"unbeatable".. I think he meant unbearable!
The right side guy with 2 agressors is sooooo annoying ..-.-
Lol round3 tie pile up lol
i hate 2 ig
The way the guy on the right acted and kept saying "evaded" was so smug and annoying honestly
I play both swarms, and S&V IG's, and this game was simply PAINFULL to watch. Soooo many advangageous times that the IG's could have used S loops. Soooo many advantageous times the swarm could have done K loops. IG's NOT recovering shields. The HORRIBLE conduct of the S&V player. LOTS of novice mistakes on the part of BOTH players. And just to add a bit more of my unsolicited opinion, I think that HLC is over rated, and think that the Mangler makes a better choice despite the one fewer die..
+Tabitha Martin
If it hurts, don't watch it. XD
Didn't like the right player attitude. That is the only reason why I wont enjoy any of your videos, well played to the Tie Player.
seriously the guy on the right was annoying. My gosh. worst opponent material.