Fixing fret buzz: spot leveling and re-crowning

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  • @TheBassplayah
    @TheBassplayah 10 років тому +50

    This Gentleman has the best knowledge and most trustworthy quality of any luthier people who post here.

  • @blrobinson5854
    @blrobinson5854 8 років тому +15

    I've been a Singer/Song Writer and Performer for 50 years and have always had to send my Favorite Guitars to shops for repairs never getting them back in time for the next show. Thank you for the tips. Tried them and they flat work. You are the Guitar God.

  • @talister106
    @talister106 10 років тому +3

    I never tire learning something new about guitars and the noble act of restoring life to a old guitar. Thanks.

  • @kenren110
    @kenren110 7 місяців тому +1

    Dan is a national treasure. Thanks Dan!

  • @mikepawlikguitar
    @mikepawlikguitar 4 роки тому

    I've seen many other videos of luthiers online but this just is a great example of a real, seasoned professional. THanks a lot

  • @SeemsLikeSomething
    @SeemsLikeSomething 5 років тому +261

    Who else wishes this guy was their grandpa or uncle and you could get him to look at all your guitars and fix up em real nice? 😁

    • @thecarwashcompanyusa
      @thecarwashcompanyusa 4 роки тому +15

      One day this could be you if you keep fixing up ur guitars and learning. It’s who I wanna be!

    • @anthonycallahan4832
      @anthonycallahan4832 4 роки тому +4

      And that guy from this old house - I say that all the time

    • @jackaalucas
      @jackaalucas 3 роки тому +1

      U wish you didn’t have your current grandparents kinda fucked up

    • @bluewaterpig
      @bluewaterpig 3 роки тому

      Dan Erliwine is a guitar tech’s tech.

    • @robotsongs
      @robotsongs 3 роки тому +6

      He wouldn't look at them all... He'd bring you into the shop for the first one, explain what he was doing, then say "OK, now you" and sit back drinking a gin and tonic in his chair with the paper while you work.

  • @fernandomagana530
    @fernandomagana530 7 років тому +28

    That was honestly the easiest explanation I've heard. I researched all day on how to do this job and saw your video! Thank you! You're a Genius!

  • @michael_caz_nyc
    @michael_caz_nyc 4 роки тому

    Mr. Dan Erlewine is The Man. I could watch ( and learn ) from him - all day = True Master.

  • @hivacdecatron
    @hivacdecatron 9 років тому +3

    All us guitar fellows do things differently to suit our own style, but you are a true gem. Cheers buddy from Scotland

  • @jimtomatola
    @jimtomatola 3 роки тому +16

    I take a Sharpie and color the whole top of the fret. When there's just a thin line of black along the centerline, you're done filing.

  • @rakowumusic5143
    @rakowumusic5143 8 років тому +5

    You made my day. I had this "buzz" problem with one of my guitars. No one could explain me the reason. Thank you a lot :)

  • @jB-cw9gs
    @jB-cw9gs 4 роки тому +3

    Thank you sir for posting these videos. You've help make my guitar fixing skills so much better.

  • @ClarenceHW
    @ClarenceHW 10 років тому +9

    Dan, your videos share a wealth of knowledge and experience, thanks so much.!

  • @u.s.a.198
    @u.s.a.198 3 роки тому +1

    I'd like to work with someone like this to learn from them. Very knowledgeable... that's a rare find!

  • @Jonpoo1
    @Jonpoo1 4 роки тому +9

    I'd never have the guts to operate on my own guitars but this great video helped me at least understand what I'm paying for. Thanks.

    • @DunderHead.5000
      @DunderHead.5000 3 роки тому

      Where do you take your guitar(s)? I'm looking for a place to send mine since there isn't a local place here I trust.

  • @lawncuttingplusdelta
    @lawncuttingplusdelta 9 років тому +1

    Your friend paul from Canada, thanks you.... U are all I need to do it myself on my guitars..... I like how u explain and put little visuals . Great job

  • @Robil63
    @Robil63 6 років тому

    Great little tute, learnt a valuable tidbit here if nothing else.

  • @GRAFHC
    @GRAFHC 10 років тому +7

    Wow, hard to believe you're 70 years old... I'd guess early 60's if I had to. Great video as always!

    • @TheClemcaster
      @TheClemcaster 5 років тому +3

      He's actually 23, but he's had a tough life.

  • @MrRoyobentoni
    @MrRoyobentoni 4 роки тому

    A deep appreciation for your teachings,

  • @symonf1966
    @symonf1966 10 років тому +32

    It never occurred to me that a string could buzz on the fret it was fretted on. I did like the mother of toilet seat. I'd never heard of that before. Thank you Dan

    • @hamiltonjenkins167
      @hamiltonjenkins167 6 років тому +3

      Mrlz56 look from 0.40 where Dan explains, with the aid of the diagrams, how the string can buzz on the flat top of the fret that is being fretted. Crowning the fret gives the string a precise point of contact with the fret allowing the string to vibrate without buzzing on that same fret. Buzzing on frets further up the neck is a different problem and I would post a video myself if I had any skill whatsoever in the area of fret filing. So I will just have to carry on with what I do know: talking bollocks.

    • @Amin.Ashraf
      @Amin.Ashraf 6 років тому +1

      Mrlz56 it can buzz on the flat top fret it being fretted if the guitar had higher strings action because the string comes in contact on the front side of the flat top fret while leaving a tiny gap on the back of the fret to cause the buzzing when the string vibrate. Buzzing on the fret further up the neck probably caused by the strings action being too low or it had uneven fret crown. Which is the fretted fret is lower than the fret further up the neck.
      I'm no expert but I think those are the possible reasons for both problem. By the way, I've re-crowning all of my guitar's fret and buzzing no more.

    • @Hexspa
      @Hexspa 7 місяців тому

      They say the same about flat nut slots: you can get buzz in the nut slot if you don’t angle it back toward the headstock

  • @andrewdenine1685
    @andrewdenine1685 4 роки тому

    I love these videos. He's a guitar tecs dream

  • @TranscendianIntendor
    @TranscendianIntendor 7 років тому

    I don't know if I ought have gotten so much deeper into guitars. I never had them in my future before it came. Thanks, great videos.

  • @johnnytsunami7150
    @johnnytsunami7150 6 років тому +1

    Thanks for the demo! I'm looking to fix the fret buzzing on my dillion 522 sas. Great guitar but the body thru design seems to have some oddities in its lower action playing (really bad fret buzz).

  • @rockhoundingeasternwashing5308
    @rockhoundingeasternwashing5308 9 років тому +1

    Cool ole' guitar you have there, Thanks for the buzz fix tip!

  • @TheDeathInTheAir
    @TheDeathInTheAir 9 років тому +7

    Thanks for sharing your knowledge.

  • @circuit-breakermi3865
    @circuit-breakermi3865 10 років тому

    May Bell looks and sounds sweet!

  • @zurdoremi
    @zurdoremi 4 роки тому

    yes, those May Bell have a sound all their own. Mine has brass frets and bridge saddle.

  • @hivacdecatron
    @hivacdecatron 9 років тому +3

    I would personally advise all after levelling work to be done laterally, or from side to side when using an accurate long beam sander.

    • @curtiseverett1671
      @curtiseverett1671 2 роки тому

      also, when you are doing a fret level, never drink 7 shots of Don Julio.....

  • @morMICRO
    @morMICRO 10 років тому +3

    man! thats a really beautiful guitar

  • @TheLinkIsLost
    @TheLinkIsLost 10 років тому +1

    Thank you for the videos sir! Your videos will definitely help me to get rid of some buzzing I have on my guitars!

    • @Cam_B
      @Cam_B 6 років тому +2

      dude you just like to piss on everyone's cake don't ya

  • @rent2ownnz
    @rent2ownnz 10 років тому +1

    nice Video Stewart! Thank you so much for sharing your knowledge.

  • @AgonyX1992
    @AgonyX1992 6 років тому +4

    I've always had a mixed feeling about fingerboard guard and I'd like to see what other people think. On one hand of course it's handy if you're just working on a few specific frets, but on the other hand, it, being metal, leaves slight parallel traces that don't completely go away (at least to my eyes) even after fret oil. Thoughts?

    • @camel7355
      @camel7355 Рік тому

      Smooth off the edges with a file, polish.
      Then use it.

  • @JohnDoe-gv9jv
    @JohnDoe-gv9jv 8 років тому

    Good job and thanks for the tip on the home made tool. Thank you for sharing.

  • @wallsmartsme
    @wallsmartsme 6 років тому

    Very educational. I learned something from watching this video
    Thanks. I just got a lefty guitar ibanez. It's a bueatiful guitar. It needs the frets filed for easier playing with it

  • @st.apollonius5758
    @st.apollonius5758 8 років тому

    That's a beautiful guitar thanks for the tip.

  • @Murphy_R9
    @Murphy_R9 8 років тому +9

    "Mother of toilet seat" that never gets old! LOL

  • @Crantrex
    @Crantrex 4 роки тому

    I wish i had a cool grandpa like you

  • @andrewmanford
    @andrewmanford 9 років тому +3

    This guy is a genius.

  • @smokey9397
    @smokey9397 7 років тому

    Awesome Dan!!!

  • @DougHinVA
    @DougHinVA 8 років тому +3

    why is there not a file that is a concave to make the fret curve as you use it?

    • @stricknine8623
      @stricknine8623 8 років тому +2

      Doug H. in VA
      its called a crowning file

    • @DougHinVA
      @DougHinVA 6 років тому +1

      so why does a pro not just use a crowning file, then ?

    • @meadish
      @meadish 6 років тому

      @@DougHinVA Reasons I have heard stated (although I could not vouch for whether they are true or not, so take this for what it is, just second-hand info) is that the triangular file affords the user more precise control, and allows the user to remove less material.

  • @josephwalton487
    @josephwalton487 4 роки тому +1

    😆😆Mother of toilet seat. You had me rolling there.

  • @williamwinn948
    @williamwinn948 Рік тому

    Love stewmac tools.

  • @keyofdon6890
    @keyofdon6890 5 років тому

    Very nicely done

  • @napalmhardcore
    @napalmhardcore 8 років тому +53

    He makes this stuff look so easy and when I try it, well... stuff goes wrong :(

    • @onpsxmember
      @onpsxmember 7 років тому +25

      He just did it more often and found out a lot of ways how not to do it.
      Every journey starts with the first step.

  • @alangill1411
    @alangill1411 4 дні тому

    I couldn't see how you made that small file. Have you got short video on how to make that miniature draw file.i really need to make myself one of those.i love the practical home made tools. You can't beat them. My friend who was Luthier for many years left me a load of tools he made.some I've figured out but others I haven't yet. I would love to send the pics of them and see if people know what they are for. Thanks for the videos.He used to refer to the inlays as mother of toilet seat as well.I say it all the time now.

  • @jamesmurphy5499
    @jamesmurphy5499 9 років тому +1

    Can a flat file be use just as effectively or do you NEED a 3 corner file?

  • @Mistershredd
    @Mistershredd 6 років тому

    We all said "mother of toilet seat" back in the 70s, when those particular pearloid toilet seats were popular. It seems to be making a comeback, which I fully support.

  • @Tad_Johnston
    @Tad_Johnston 5 років тому

    My dads got an ol maybell archtop super cool

  • @giulioluzzardi7632
    @giulioluzzardi7632 Рік тому

    She's a keeper!

  • @miguelrico4338
    @miguelrico4338 3 роки тому

    My american Telecastor Pro II comes with flat frets from the factory. Is this going to be prone to fret buzz?

  • @alext8828
    @alext8828 9 років тому +3

    Why are you not using a crowning file to do those frets? I know StewMac sells them.

    • @sirswift23
      @sirswift23 8 років тому +5

      +Alex Tworkowski Good for new frets, but not old or worn, low profiled frets!

    • @alext8828
      @alext8828 8 років тому +2

      sirswift23 Ah, very good. Good point. I just noticed that you have a unique guard over the fretboard. Where in the world did you find that? That is a gem. I didn't see that in any of the catalogues.

    • @sirswift23
      @sirswift23 8 років тому +5

      +Alex Tworkowski It's a modified chip stopper! Slotted at the end to accept some rubber band. Sometimes the best tool for the job is a tool remade for the job....

    • @alext8828
      @alext8828 8 років тому +5

      sirswift23 I find that's always the case. I have a friend that swears that the people that design and make tools never use them. I agree w/ him. I find that i need to modify allot of my stuff. Just Googled chip stoppers and Stew Mac came right up w/ a video. Thanks for the info. Gold.

  • @patrickpalmer3374
    @patrickpalmer3374 2 роки тому

    The neck I have came from China cheap because I was going to re fret it and put abalone dots in. The fret markers are not centered, and not centered in the middle of the neck. Markers are like 6mm to one fret and 8 mm on the other side. 12 3/4 to the 12th fret. I have a StewMac fret scale with a fender 25.5 scale on it but when I lay it on the neck many don't center with the rule and the high note frets are way off is this normal or do I have a piece of firewood?

  • @afewloosescrewandnuts
    @afewloosescrewandnuts 4 роки тому

    Rest easy 😭😭❤️ ..

  • @pjfields2382
    @pjfields2382 3 роки тому

    The little fret guard tool..can you design one for the whole board instead of taping one off when you have to do the whole thing if that makes sense?

  • @ricardodoliveira8631
    @ricardodoliveira8631 6 років тому

    Nicely done nicely described helpful thank you.

  • @AngeloLuis22
    @AngeloLuis22 4 роки тому

    why some of the guitar is needed to change frets instead of crowning them hmm what is the reason? thanks God bless

  • @roncarter2188
    @roncarter2188 5 років тому

    Im wondering what would be the best way to fix some frets on the end of the fret board say between the 15th thru the 20th fret, when making bends the strings will die out and not ring like on the lower frets. Should I just remove and sand off some the frets from the 15th thru the 20th alone? Any info would be appreciated. Thanks

  • @roshanshrestha4030
    @roshanshrestha4030 7 років тому

    i need to adjust my truss rod.. but i think my truss rod is jam inside.. are there any other way to straighten my guitar neck?

    • @boogie11able
      @boogie11able 6 років тому

      Roshan Shrestha Heating and clamping

  • @timtamholic555
    @timtamholic555 8 років тому +1

    Thank You Sir!

  • @franzervinalcaide9667
    @franzervinalcaide9667 3 роки тому

    Can I use a 2.7mm fret on acoustic guitar?

  • @AdamGtr86
    @AdamGtr86 9 років тому

    Anyone know where to get that tool he uses around the fret to protect the fretboard?

    • @joelbyrne
      @joelbyrne 9 років тому +1

      AdamGtr86 www.stewmac.com/

    • @AdamGtr86
      @AdamGtr86 9 років тому

      joelbyrne
      well no s***, lol, I just couldn't find them on the website. Eventually I did find them though.

  • @StefBorremans
    @StefBorremans 4 роки тому

    Hi Dan! Great video! When I see fret levelling videos, they are always being filed / sanded to reduce height. I wonder why nobody gives the higher frets a few gentle taps with a fret hammer first? Thanks!

    • @sgd5k292
      @sgd5k292 3 роки тому

      I know this is a year later, but I tried your method on my Strat that had 4 slightly high frets, and now the frets are level and the guitar plays great again with no buzzing! Thanks!

  • @jennC8797
    @jennC8797 9 років тому

    What coarseness of sand paper do you use with the sanding block?

    • @jacksquirrel2001
      @jacksquirrel2001 9 років тому +1

      +jennifer castro He uses 320 in the "Making a guitar neck more comfortable to play" video.

  • @TheVINMAN531
    @TheVINMAN531 6 років тому

    What type of fingerboard guards are they?

    • @stewmac
      @stewmac  6 років тому

      Dan's using a StewMac Fingerboard Guard for Guitar (item #3744) that he's modified to bend around this fretboard for a better fit.
      www.stewmac.com/Luthier_Tools/Tools_by_Job/Tools_for_Necks_and_Fingerboards/StewMac_Fingerboard_Guards.html

  • @fenderlead1
    @fenderlead1 10 років тому +2

    Why wouldnt a crowning file work here?

    • @HarmFlo
      @HarmFlo 10 років тому +2

      A crowning file could work, but normal files give you way more control.

    • @customgtrs
      @customgtrs 10 років тому +2

      The diamond crowning file is the ticket here I think...for me anyways..

    • @gingerleyham
      @gingerleyham 10 років тому +1

      I would have used a crowning file, but only because I don't have the skill to use a regular file!

  • @FrisellFan01
    @FrisellFan01 4 роки тому

    There may be a bunch of guys out there that might do this work......but there is only 1 guy I trust......Dan Erlewine....... enough said.

  • @kahwndry2012
    @kahwndry2012 9 років тому +2

    I enjoy these videos

  • @alexanderlyberth9821
    @alexanderlyberth9821 9 років тому

    What kind of fretboard is that?

  • @TheAaron3dg
    @TheAaron3dg 7 років тому

    Thanks for sharing!

  • @madmannolen
    @madmannolen 10 років тому +26

    when u have the proper set of tools, its way more easier... : (

  • @FYMASMD
    @FYMASMD 4 роки тому

    I so appreciate luthiers. Personally I can't stand doing guitar maintaining other than oil, strings, and cleaning. I gladly pay for a pro setup on my rigs.
    Gladly! !!👍😎

  • @littlebritain64
    @littlebritain64 5 років тому

    Enjoyed it, thanks!!

  • @williamdougie6213
    @williamdougie6213 7 років тому

    can you get these files at home depot?

  • @GregMcAskill
    @GregMcAskill 5 років тому +1

    Praise the Lord for vibration frequencies :)

  • @dadoblade75
    @dadoblade75 2 роки тому

    I've never heard the term, "mother of toilet seat" before!🤣

  • @zwip778
    @zwip778 9 років тому

    Thank you sir

  • @shivanshushekhar9356
    @shivanshushekhar9356 8 років тому

    my specific fret of specific string are only buzzing like 10 fret of g and s

    • @noobpower96
      @noobpower96 8 років тому

      You might want to check ur neck in that case. Chances are its bowed (basically forming like a very long stretched out U-shape).
      Or you've just really played that 10th fret on the g and have worn out the fret a bit

  • @supremeleader9032
    @supremeleader9032 5 років тому

    Thanks for the advice old timer

  • @gabriel09dic18
    @gabriel09dic18 3 роки тому

    Thanks!

  • @dartsman76
    @dartsman76 7 років тому +3

    you don't see that quality of of work every day

  • @GPCTM
    @GPCTM 4 роки тому

    Triangular shape doesn't make sense for that as it is used as a tilted flat one. Makes no difference.
    A pentagonal would do it as it would allow to use the board as ground and the correct angle would be against the fret... Do I need to make a drawing?

  • @kenaiello4851
    @kenaiello4851 6 років тому

    instead of a crowning tool I could just use a file like you did for this amateur ? want to learn how. Fret level with a sanding block and crowning thx

  • @ronin6158
    @ronin6158 3 роки тому

    Good to see counselor Hamann from the matrix keeping busy these days.

  • @davidkennedy1271
    @davidkennedy1271 7 років тому

    I see you used a 4 inch sanding block to do a light level...the scourge of people who think they're luthiars. (I'm sure you know what your doing) I think you should do a video on how and when to use a short sanding block....My gut tells me it's for lightly tuning the frets of a guitar that's only slightly buzzing. Also why a short block is better if your leveling with relief in the neck (such as when the strings are on)

  • @joshuawoodyard7556
    @joshuawoodyard7556 9 років тому +6

    "mother of toilet seat"! awesome!

  • @SFolkes97
    @SFolkes97 9 років тому +17

    "mother of toilet seat" - you don't see that much these days.

  • @7550375503
    @7550375503 4 роки тому

    Mister Rogers of guitars

  • @CC-hs7st
    @CC-hs7st 3 роки тому

    Mother of toilet seat!!.
    Love it. Thanks

  • @phillyphill34
    @phillyphill34 4 роки тому

    I hope I'm this cool one day!!!!

  • @allyhellkiller5535
    @allyhellkiller5535 4 роки тому

    Lighter strings will travel more and maybe cause fret buzz.

  • @ddss6227
    @ddss6227 6 років тому

    I had a guitar with serious fret buzz. here is what worked great for me.
    I laid it under drivers side rear wheel of my car. I put car in gear, and rolled forward.
    solved all my fret buzz issues.

  • @hackprine5691
    @hackprine5691 3 роки тому

    cool

  • @izzynutz2000
    @izzynutz2000 5 років тому

    That's a good looking axe there Dan.. With the cherubs on there,, why they'll make good protectors against Balbuh, when you're playing that crossroads down Home blues LOLOLOL

  • @patrickfitzgerald2861
    @patrickfitzgerald2861 4 роки тому

    Yes Dan, she has a heckuva body for sure. 😉

  • @richardbrucemusic
    @richardbrucemusic 3 роки тому +1

    I love Dan's video's but he completely skipped showing us the leveling part of the process.

    • @richardbrucemusic
      @richardbrucemusic 3 роки тому +1

      @ thanks but I know how. I was just pointing out the omission.

  • @fingersfhillips
    @fingersfhillips 10 років тому +1

    I wanted to say your awesome I love the work the detail your know how on everything thank you so much for your top rated videos in my book
    fingers_fhillips 2014

  • @curtiseverett1671
    @curtiseverett1671 2 роки тому

    You are great!!!! We are not worthy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @davecheney2314
    @davecheney2314 8 років тому

    Genius =]

  • @DoctorColg8
    @DoctorColg8 4 роки тому

    After spending my college years trying to get a buzz... now he tells me that's not what I wanted.

  • @thrasherx9319
    @thrasherx9319 5 років тому

    A draw file. Impressive.