Got to listen to the GMC S 15 Jimmy demo truck in the 1990's from Bazooka tube. It had 4 12" tubes in it. Was amazing for it's time. Still remember how killer it was. Way more clean bass and output than you would ever believe.
I had the tahaos15 extended cab 4x4 lowered and had the jlw7 and Phoenix gold amps mono 2000 grand in the truck and the same in the stereo it would bounce 1/2 $ off the cab. Dyno matted and dash would float as not to rattle .truck got pounded with bass and rattled apart after 2 yrs😂
I came accross your video and wanted to drop a comment about your review of the little MTX RT8PT. I loved your approach to the review. You have some mad skills! You have the Lab Equipment and can explain the reasoning to the testing you do. First a little back story: I own a intermediate car a 2015 Ford Fusion SE that had the stock 4" screen standard radio, the USB input feature and Bluetooth features one day stopped working and I began researching my options for a replacement radio for the car. I bought an Android 9" Radio 2GB Ram/32GB Storage that had the ability to have 2TB USB storage so I could have a large music library on a SSD drive in the arm rest storage. The radio has a trim bezel that fits the cars radio and HVAC system area to look factory. The Radio I chose supported line level output for all channels and has a 4- chennel Class D Audio Planet amp, SKAR 2-way component front door, 2-way coax rear door, with the reviewed MTX RT8PT Subwoofer in the trunk. The overall system more than satified me as a real improvement for a smallish investment compared to what some people spend. Everytime I drive the car I am excited to have a great sounding system, in addition added function to the drive with gaining a working Navigation (with Phone) and Android Auto features. Anyway, the MTX sub does exactly what I need; it fills out the bottomend and gives some punch to the sound so it makes driving fun having a great sound system, that looks stock!
Haha, awesome! I still have an old SAS Bazooka 8" tube from probably around 2005-ish? The driver was swapped out for an 8" Polk Audio driver long ago, and converted to a passive enclosure. The little guy hits pretty dang good for its size! I got bored once and built dual 15" tube enclosures that were so large they turned my station wagon into a 2-seater! LOL
My family's celica had either an 8 or 10" bass tube, that was what got me addicted to bass. This was around 97. I used to play through all my bass tapes on there.
you truly do some of the most thorough, well thought out videos that are easy to absorb all the great information and content because of your calm and balanced demeanor
I used to own a 12" bazooka SAS tube, it looked like a Nitrous Tank...I miss it. These tubes are the reason the Bucket O' Bass was found. A 5 Gallon Bucket and a decent 12" sub worked wonders
@@steviekeith2060 I just stuck a 12" Rockford DVC in a 5 Gallon bucket and screwed it down with drywall screws... It was simple, quick, and very effective when I had absolutely no money when I was a teen
You are a good presenter. I'm a car guy, and stero is a bit out my normal doings. I did put a stero in my 1995 YJ and am happy I can hear Tomm Mcdonald, Adam Calhoun, Bryson Gray, Pantera, SOD,... over road notes in roof less door less jeep...
My first "Real" subwoofer was a bazooka tube 8" and i found out real quick i needed an amp to power it and my 16 year old self was blown away by it and that opened the door for more down the road
As per MTX, best thing I ever got from them was the Blue Thunder box. It was a triangular shaped box with a flat top. The sides were ported, and the subs were in the interior, sealed. They were the MTX Blue Thunder subs. I placed one upside down in an 82' Firebird ditch and it was great. The box was passive. I went through a few different amps. No matter what, they sounded really good. They didn't drop as low as the bass tubes nor were they as boomy but they were compact and did a job that only a ditch Kicker did before.
I've built several with sonotube or sakcrete tubes from HD or Lowes. They come in 6.5", 8" , 10", and 12" diameter. Cut a trim ring to mount the sub in one end and a solid piece for the other end with what ever size port u need. If it's a big boy subwoofer you can add some interior bracing.
What do you mean what happened to Bass tubes? Bass tubes seem to be selling all right. Bazooka is still the best selling bass tube on the market. prices are much lower today than they were 20 years ago, but they're still going strong. Crutchfield sells the largest variety off bass tubes.
I think the reason why a lot of the serious car audio people don't see many bass tubes is because their typical buyer is new to Car Audio or simply doesn't need a massive amount of bass. For example, people doing an oem upgrade on a new vehicle. The typical customer is not doing UA-cam videos on their system, but I'm sure there's tons of these bass tubes out there on the street. 👍
I remember back in the day I had a 86 Dodge D50 - I had acquired an old JVC split ground deck and two 8" svc tubes. Mind you I was 13. Most bass I had ever heard, and that threw me into the bass world. Ever since (9+ vehicles since 2003, and worked in a sound shop for 4 years) has had a sub. Bass is a part of me now.
I remember putting a no-name brand bass tube from JC Whittney in my '84 Camaro back in the mid '90s. It added some "boom-boom" to my daily driver. It was the easiest and cheapest way to go, since it had a built-in amp. I also had a switch on my dash to power it up, in case I didn't need thumping bass. (Rock music, listening to the game, driving my parents somewhere, etc.)
back in the early 90s I had two 8" tubes behind the seats in my Mazda b2000 truck they the only things that would fit so a lot of people used them. They actually sounded awesome and got pretty loud they amazed everyone back then for the size.
My brother got one of these in a little Corolla hatchback I thought it sounded okay. It hit better than i expected. It definitely was a better option then spending $3-4k on the factory premium sound system cause thats about all he wanted in terms of a system.
18:00 Boom! I hit the nail on the head. I knew that sucker was only going to do 50 to 60 watts of output. It's a decent amount of power, but there's just no way you're going to get 120 watts out of a class AB amp with a 10 amp fuse. To be fair though, you should test it on a 4 ohm resistive load or at least run the speaker through a range of frequencies to find its lowest impedance.
Back in the day a friend of mine went to what used to be 'Incredible Universe' then purchased by Fry's Electronics. They had a Jeep with 10 six and a half Bazooka Tubes. It was impressive!
In my opinion the Bazooka tubes were extremely overrated. I remember that people who never had one always claimed that they bumped harder than anything, but in reality they were pretty cheaply made and just so-so on the bass. Then every other company started to copy the basic design. I'd much rather have a traditional enclosure. Good video as always! Keep it up.
My cousin used to have a lil ISUZU P'up truck regular cab, with just one 6-1/2" SAS Bazooka tube running of a Rockford Fosgate series120 amplifier, and you would swear you was in a hatchback with a couple 10's beatin on ya! No💩 them Bazookas were🔥🔥🔥 i heard a couple 8's in a Honda CRX sound like some 12's or 15's even!
Had an old 8" SAS self amped Bazooka in the back of an '88 Nissan Hardbody back in high school (92/93) For the price and ease of install the thing did pretty damn well.
When I was in 7th grade me and my bf got summer jobs at Hollywood Sound Labs in North Hollywood, CA we just swept the store, washed the cars, and helped move things around and set up displays, I remember when they brought in the Bazooka Tubes brand, they were one of the first Bazooka Dealers in the country, there were varying heights of the tubes, back in 2008 I had 2 x 10" Bazooka Tubs, they pounded like they were 12's, lol
I noticed the Tiffany style RCAs that Derick likes. I believe the reason why the speaker chamber is not bigger is for cone control. Considering the motor size which also makes it more efficient.
The chamber size was still to small one of the reasons they used that filling behind the sub. But it’s easier and cheaper to build the enclosure like that and shove some felt behind sub instead of a more difficult design which takes more skilled workers with more time increasing cost. Most people that buy this kind of product are not looking for anything more then what it does the way it is.
I have one of these along with a Boss Audio touchscreen head unit that I bought when my factory head unit went out. I have nothing but love for the MTX 8" tubes. My only con is I wish I would have went with the 10 or 12 as they do have ones that size. But they sound really good and are very reaponsive. I didnt really get the bad critiques you had in the beginning especially since in the end you talked about the point of this sub which is just to boost the bottom end of a lacking system. To do so you dont need much and also dont need super high quality materials. You just need something that is engineered decently to get the job done pretty well: doesnt have to be stellar.
I’ve got two 10” Bazooka Basetube dual 4 ohm voicecoil on about 600 watt pioneer in the tiny trunk of my 94 BMW 325i convertible. Nothing else will really fit n there but I can get low enough to feel bass in my seat back with that setup. What I’m saying is there is definitely still a need for the bass tube! Another plus for Bazooka is that they are way lighter than wood boxes since they use some sort of plastic housing. Great video as always!
Did you happen to run an impedance sweep to see where the enclosure is tuned at? It would be pretty fun to drop in a high-performance 8 and maybe connect up a bigger external amplifier just to see what that enclosure is capable of. 😄
I bought a 10" Bazooka tube back in the mid-90's to take the place of my old twin 12" full range MTX box in my '87 Camaro. That 10" Bazooka sounded great. In '05 or '06 the foam surround part of the subwoofer finally fell apart and I installed a cheap Lightning Audio subwoofer in the tube. Installed it in my Freightliner. It sounded okay. I haven't used the Bazooka tube in the last 15 years. Probably will need another subwoofer replacement. I want to buy their Marine Grade version of the Bazooka. It would probably hold up better in my Jeep. What ever happened to "Full Range" subwoofer enclosures. They were everywhere in the late 80's thru mid-90's. I guess they died off as hatchbacks died off? One of these years I would love to restore my old MTX box. It has been in the shed for 27 years.
I've had many different setups from low buck to high end db drag setups. These ampped tubes are great for decent bass with a very easy setup and easy removal for your whole trunk area when needed. tubes are when you want decent sound for you, big sytems are for when you want EVERYONE to hear your music.
I had 2 10" Bazooka bass tubes. I had 2 Collins super bass tubes. I like the bass coming out of the Collins super Bass tubes, better than the Bazooka bass tubes. JBL & Teac still have bass tubes out, and they look like the Collins super Bass tubes that used to be out.
Back in '94 I was about 12, my brother had a 8 inch bass tube behind the passenger seat of his Mitsubishi Mighty Max pickup. I remember one of them being Blaupunkt then he got another I want to say it was MTX but I can't remember. Neither of them came with an internal amp and each one of them used to hit. I remember one day feeling the bass in my mama car when my brother was behind us in the truck at a light. That same truck (minus the system) became my first car when I started driving. I'm shorter than him so I was able to put a dual 12 inch truck box behind the seat, I had two Kenwoods, for the life of me I can't remember what amps I had. Good times tho. Edit: the other one was a B-52
Back in 95 i think i was 14 or 15 yrs old. My friend used to have a 12 inch jensen in a bass tube facing downward between the bucket seats in 88 chevy s10 pickup and it pounded hard and had great sound quality
SAS was the parent company for Bazooka Tubes. In '98 I installed 12 - 6 inch Bazooka tubes firing rearward in a hardtop Jeep Wrangler......small subs ahead of their time. At that time USAAC metered 147db.....
@BudgetBassHead- Please show how the peak Db., & peak freq. can change as the orientation of this enclosure changes. Try pushing this ALL the way to the back of your trunk, & turn it sideways(loudest my guess), then try it the opposite direction you have it in this video= face the woofer towards the rear bumper, & port forwards pointing(quietest my guess).
@@BudgetBassHead - Couldn't you just make another video with this bass tube trying these different positions, please? Then it would be great if you would buy the Sas Bazooka tube to see which tube was louder, & which sounds better? I really liked how you took your time, & showed the inside of the enclosure, & amplifier. Oh, & showed us all the actual power, thank you. I would really like to see the same thing tested with a 8" powered Sas Bazooka tube!
I’m about to buy another bazooka tube. 10” active/powered. It is compact, and sounds great to me having previously installed many custom amplified automotive sound systems. I guess I grew out of it, but still want some extra kick at the moment. I might build my own bass tube. Time will tell. Bazzoka tube is really good if you want a moderate increase in bass without gutting your whole system or lesser variation of the goal.
I spray glue blanket style polyfill to walls of all my enclosures it’s just a thin layer but that layer helps every enclosure I build I test without it first and it’s always a little louder and cleaner sound with it and plays a larger frequency range much better as well.
With Skullcandy ANC Crusher 2 headphones, this shit fucking WHOPPED! For those that don't know, that is an OG basshead term we used to use in the South for that heartbeat skippin pressure that make the trunk lid go WAHH WAHHH WAHHHHPPPPPPP! Another test for SPL before Amazon and shit was the quarter test. You pick a certain song time with a big drop and put a quarter on the edge of the trunk lid or spoiler and see how high it flips. Highest flip wins. Another way to know you have a nice system, if you max out your amp to just below clipping, your trunk pops off the hinge from the back. Seen a few, did it twice myself. Not fun to fix, but it's a status thing, like followers or some shit. Now I'm not a budget basshead personally even when I was broke and the way you find that out is by blowing 6 sets of 1,200 watt mid tiered subs in about a month before you discover JL Audio. Then, you get some 13.5w7 subs with a PROPERLY TUNED AND SEALED box (please, don't even bother with the 10s or 12s if you're going to spend that much and sealed gives much better SQL than ported with minimum SPL loss comparatively to the gains) with professional installation by a REAL bass man such as this guy in the video, You are then fully enlightened to the bliss of pure, crisp, chest thumping bass that cannot be found in ANY other way. And, they last forever. Prove me wrong please and I will bow before you. I'm in South America and I am begging JL to let me become a dealer just so I can put some 13.5 W7v3 sets in my cars and my peoples' cars. It's like, you're a junky, right, and you have been sober for 7 or 8 years, but you're STILL in withdrawals about to die. Yeah, that's me without JLs now. I dream about them every night and just CAN'T get them. Someday though... some day.
When I got my new to me car 2006 Honda Civic 4 door. I needed to put a new stereo in it. I added a 8 inch Bazoka Bass tube because it would fit behind the driver's seat with it all the way back, and was level with the back seat. It is powered off an old overkill Rockford Fosgate BBQ grill amp that is turned down a lot.
The bass tubes eliminate the need for internal supports due to their circular shape. This also helps create a more accurate cleaner bass. I had a 10 inch that gave me more bass from any 10 inch sub I've owned.
Newbies, I have amps older then him on my wall. A couple of art series, 1991 alpine mrv 1505, he'll, I have a 12w5 jl form 89. You're absolutely right. Face it towards the trunk for it to resonate of the vehicle. A 2in port is not doing anything. He would've got a better bass response backwards like you said
@@tomb9566 lmao stick to your old school wall and don’t give recommendations to others about trunks. You have no idea what you’re talking about in terms of trunk builds.
Does removing the plate amp to perform the test change the properties of the tube causing the ohms to rise more, therefore reducing the output from the amp? Wish there was some way you could test the tube while its assembled.
Any value in simply running say 4 of these VS buying the equivalent single box/enclosure and amp all separately? What is the best way to get the most DB for your buck?
How do you install subs and wiring to stocks. One video a guy said you have to go to the car lot and have someone there wire it up? I have a q70 and that could be why?
The name of the company was SAS and the name of the enclosure was the "Bazooka Tube". I had a pair of 10" SAS Bazooka Tubes from the first run of tubes, arguably the best ever made. After that they changed how they made them, and they didn't sound the same. They caught ultra-low bass. A pair of 10s with 300 watts to the pair sounded like a pair of 12s in a ported box with 400 watts to the pair. Everyone wanted these. The larger tubes made by other companies (12s, 15s) never sounded as good. They just didn't. No matter who made them. I will say that the speakers SAS was using were sub-par and the voice coils would eventually go. They did have a great RMS policy though. The latter Bazooka Tubes from SAS were made of injection molded plastic and were all once piece. The originals were not. I took the time to figure out the materials and even got an SAS tech to give me the equation they used to figure out the length, wall thickness and ports (Both at the end and the top vent). The only thing they did different back then was add poly fill if they made the enclosures too small accidently. I loved my tubes. I wish I still had them. One day I will build a new set. But again, they never sounded the same after they changed how they were made. They were all passive back then. The amped versions came out before the re-model, and they were meh. The new models with the amps built in were trash compared to the originals with a good amp that could drop below 20Hz. The manual asked that you corner loaded them so that each would fire toward the opposite side of the vehicle. They worked best this way.
The only thing I can't stand (and all budget products do this) is that they misrepresent the numbers. Amplifiers, speakers, inverters, etc. this is something that's done with countless items but it is frustrating. Just give me the real specs so I can size the system up accordingly. I do appreciate you taking the time to give us the real data on these products. I had a small "bazooka tube" back in the early 00's and didn't care for it. It was underpowered like this one. I did however have 2x12's in a lit up bandpass box by a brand called "adrenlin" and I absolutely loved those things. Picked them up used from a pawn shop for like $50.
I noticed the sound in the video seemed to drop out when you were doing the frequency sweep in your vehicle. Right around 60 to 65 hertz. Was that just a glitch in the video or do you think the SPL caused the microphone to max out?
I like your channel and am glad I found it. Correct me if I'm wrong but using a tablet or any other input device will change your signal strength and effect how many watts of clean power the amp can produce. that's the reason to look for 4 volt pre outs right? So I do not think this method of testing is accurate unless you can amplify the signal between the tablet and amp.
Good question you're the first one to ask about that. The gain settings on the amplifier is meant to match the input voltage, which in this case, was 1 volt. {0.5V per rca input}. This will change once installed into my car that has a 4V output from the DSP. But what will remain CONSTANT is the amplifier's output; that does not change.
Interesting. Man that sht bumps, really impressive for the size and power. Sounds good on music too as far as I can tell from the video, no real obvious voids, sings well throughout the range. I think I’ll get one for my moms n put it in her 06’ Yaris. Will be more than enough for her. Prolly won’t even push the dial more than halfway. 😂 Won’t be intrusive n take up all her trunk space either. Edit: Price is right too, specially these days where everything is so dang expensive. (Cost of living overall, not bass tubes in specific).
I think the gain should be reduced a bit. The driver is over extending. I like to set levels so I can't tell the sub is there until it's not there. That might have to do more with the crossover though.
@@BudgetBassHead Sorry, it was kind of a joke about throwing in a large Home Theater sub into the car. The SVS 20-39 PC+ is a 12" downfiring speaker fitted into a 16" diameter by 39" long TUBE that hits sub 20 Hz by way of a housed 525watt amp. A 16"x40" tube might be less a "bazooka" and more a battleship cannon inside a car.
@@BudgetBassHead BTW, thank you for your channel. I am learning A LOT from you, more than other channels that seem to focus on viewers that already know everything about speakers systems, by your simplified details and designs you make brilliance approachable for guys like me.
Hardly take up any space in the trunk. It could sit in the back and you still got trunk space. Nothing like them. Down firing subs work well as well . Just me.
I had a bazooka bass run with only a 8 in woofer and everyone thought it was 2 10 s I didn't but it did sound good just enough bass and enough clearness but I had sub so that acted like a extra box being inclosed
It doesn’t matter if you send a clip signal into a class d amplifier anyways cause the signal that comes out of it will be clean still at least until you turn gain up and clip it.
I had one of these and it wasn't bad for the price. I would not consider it a subwoofer for bass heads as much as it's just something to fill out a stock system and make it sound better.
The port comes out the back of this enclosure, & corner loads off the back of the trunk. If the woofer were facing the opposite direction, the port would let the back wave of the woofer, mess with the time alignment, & cause cancellation= it would not be as loud. Turning this side ways might work better, if pushed all the way back. Then the woofer, & the port could corner load.
Got to listen to the GMC S 15 Jimmy demo truck in the 1990's from Bazooka tube. It had 4 12" tubes in it. Was amazing for it's time. Still remember how killer it was. Way more clean bass and output than you would ever believe.
That’s awesome! They were definitely ahead of their time.
I had the tahaos15 extended cab 4x4 lowered and had the jlw7 and Phoenix gold amps mono 2000 grand in the truck and the same in the stereo it would bounce 1/2 $ off the cab. Dyno matted and dash would float as not to rattle .truck got pounded with bass and rattled apart after 2 yrs😂
I came accross your video and wanted to drop a comment about your review of the little MTX RT8PT. I loved your approach to the review. You have some mad skills! You have the Lab Equipment and can explain the reasoning to the testing you do.
First a little back story: I own a intermediate car a 2015 Ford Fusion SE that had the stock 4" screen standard radio, the USB input feature and Bluetooth features one day stopped working and I began researching my options for a replacement radio for the car.
I bought an Android 9" Radio 2GB Ram/32GB Storage that had the ability to have 2TB USB storage so I could have a large music library on a SSD drive in the arm rest storage. The radio has a trim bezel that fits the cars radio and HVAC system area to look factory. The Radio I chose supported line level output for all channels and has a 4- chennel Class D Audio Planet amp, SKAR 2-way component front door, 2-way coax rear door, with the reviewed MTX RT8PT Subwoofer in the trunk.
The overall system more than satified me as a real improvement for a smallish investment compared to what some people spend. Everytime I drive the car I am excited to have a great sounding system, in addition added function to the drive with gaining a working Navigation (with Phone) and Android Auto features.
Anyway, the MTX sub does exactly what I need; it fills out the bottomend and gives some punch to the sound so it makes driving fun having a great sound system, that looks stock!
I appreciate you taking the time to share your setup and what makes it work for you!
Haha, awesome! I still have an old SAS Bazooka 8" tube from probably around 2005-ish? The driver was swapped out for an 8" Polk Audio driver long ago, and converted to a passive enclosure. The little guy hits pretty dang good for its size!
I got bored once and built dual 15" tube enclosures that were so large they turned my station wagon into a 2-seater! LOL
I love that you converted yours to a passive enclosure!
One of these has been lying around my shop for a couple years, I might finally have found a use for it. Thanks for the video!
My family's celica had either an 8 or 10" bass tube, that was what got me addicted to bass. This was around 97. I used to play through all my bass tapes on there.
you truly do some of the most thorough, well thought out videos that are easy to absorb all the great information and content because of your calm and balanced demeanor
Thanks for noticing. I appreciate it
I used to own a 12" bazooka SAS tube, it looked like a Nitrous Tank...I miss it.
These tubes are the reason the Bucket O' Bass was found. A 5 Gallon Bucket and a decent 12" sub worked wonders
Tell that to @SteveMead 😁 But seriously, it's all about creativity. Whatever takes you there, just keep on bassing! 🤘
Its a bucket and a half with a port hole in backside tubed to the front
You can get the specs for the tube online
@@steviekeith2060 I just stuck a 12" Rockford DVC in a 5 Gallon bucket and screwed it down with drywall screws...
It was simple, quick, and very effective when I had absolutely no money when I was a teen
I used to own those!!! But they strangely disappeared in one of my moves (I moved a lot). I miss those guys.
You are a good presenter. I'm a car guy, and stero is a bit out my normal doings. I did put a stero in my 1995 YJ and am happy I can hear Tomm Mcdonald, Adam Calhoun, Bryson Gray, Pantera, SOD,... over road notes in roof less door less jeep...
My first "Real" subwoofer was a bazooka tube 8" and i found out real quick i needed an amp to power it and my 16 year old self was blown away by it and that opened the door for more down the road
That's how it starts, you just can't stop after that!
As per MTX, best thing I ever got from them was the Blue Thunder box. It was a triangular shaped box with a flat top. The sides were ported, and the subs were in the interior, sealed. They were the MTX Blue Thunder subs. I placed one upside down in an 82' Firebird ditch and it was great. The box was passive. I went through a few different amps. No matter what, they sounded really good. They didn't drop as low as the bass tubes nor were they as boomy but they were compact and did a job that only a ditch Kicker did before.
I’d love to see people start experimenting with the tube design but with bigger subs and more power.
You and I both 👍
I've built several with sonotube or sakcrete tubes from HD or Lowes. They come in 6.5", 8" , 10", and 12" diameter. Cut a trim ring to mount the sub in one end and a solid piece for the other end with what ever size port u need. If it's a big boy subwoofer you can add some interior bracing.
What do you mean what happened to Bass tubes? Bass tubes seem to be selling all right. Bazooka is still the best selling bass tube on the market. prices are much lower today than they were 20 years ago, but they're still going strong. Crutchfield sells the largest variety off bass tubes.
Thanks for the info. We need more like you!
I think the reason why a lot of the serious car audio people don't see many bass tubes is because their typical buyer is new to Car Audio or simply doesn't need a massive amount of bass. For example, people doing an oem upgrade on a new vehicle. The typical customer is not doing UA-cam videos on their system, but I'm sure there's tons of these bass tubes out there on the street. 👍
Loeer rms than high power subs, no 15 inch bass tubes
Seems about right for my 2015 Prius. I’m just not sure how much power is safe to pull from the hybrid system.
they were expensive back in 1990
I remember back in the day I had a 86 Dodge D50 - I had acquired an old JVC split ground deck and two 8" svc tubes. Mind you I was 13. Most bass I had ever heard, and that threw me into the bass world. Ever since (9+ vehicles since 2003, and worked in a sound shop for 4 years) has had a sub. Bass is a part of me now.
That's awesome! Bass is definitely a passion.
I remember putting a no-name brand bass tube from JC Whittney in my '84 Camaro back in the mid '90s. It added some "boom-boom" to my daily driver. It was the easiest and cheapest way to go, since it had a built-in amp. I also had a switch on my dash to power it up, in case I didn't need thumping bass. (Rock music, listening to the game, driving my parents somewhere, etc.)
Those JC Whitney speakers were absolute garbage. I was so disappointed when I got one in the mid 90s.
I liked that they were relatively easy to install, didn't take up much space, and could be removed from the car if necessary.
Bazooka tubes were the shit back in the day
back in the early 90s I had two 8" tubes behind the seats in my Mazda b2000 truck they the only things that would fit so a lot of people used them. They actually sounded awesome and got pretty loud they amazed everyone back then for the size.
Your videos are always great, thank you for making them!
My pleasure!
As a teen I had a Bazooka tube. Now I'm 47 and looking for a simple solution for my son's car. Great presentation, thanks for the info!
Those were the days, huh? Glad I could help out.
My brother got one of these in a little Corolla hatchback I thought it sounded okay. It hit better than i expected. It definitely was a better option then spending $3-4k on the factory premium sound system cause thats about all he wanted in terms of a system.
That MTX basket is called a "Stamp Cast". It is stamped but it resembles a cast basket.
Thanks for the info! That's good to know.
18:00 Boom! I hit the nail on the head. I knew that sucker was only going to do 50 to 60 watts of output. It's a decent amount of power, but there's just no way you're going to get 120 watts out of a class AB amp with a 10 amp fuse.
To be fair though, you should test it on a 4 ohm resistive load or at least run the speaker through a range of frequencies to find its lowest impedance.
Thanks for the tips
Nice! That's something I could see myself installing in my wife or daughters vehicle for them. Awesome video man! 💯👍🏻
Glad it inspired you in some way.
dang bro.... great video and praise for your knowledge as I know very well how dificult it is to fully understand this! congrats brotha !
Back in the day a friend of mine went to what used to be 'Incredible Universe' then purchased by Fry's Electronics. They had a Jeep with 10 six and a half Bazooka Tubes.
It was impressive!
Ten tubes? That's wild! 😜
In my opinion the Bazooka tubes were extremely overrated. I remember that people who never had one always claimed that they bumped harder than anything, but in reality they were pretty cheaply made and just so-so on the bass. Then every other company started to copy the basic design. I'd much rather have a traditional enclosure. Good video as always! Keep it up.
My cousin used to have a lil ISUZU P'up truck regular cab, with just one 6-1/2" SAS Bazooka tube running of a Rockford Fosgate series120 amplifier, and you would swear you was in a hatchback with a couple 10's beatin on ya! No💩 them Bazookas were🔥🔥🔥 i heard a couple 8's in a Honda CRX sound like some 12's or 15's even!
Had an old 8" SAS self amped Bazooka in the back of an '88 Nissan Hardbody back in high school (92/93) For the price and ease of install the thing did pretty damn well.
Great video, Loved the Big D reference .
The bass tube in ported variety was often, basically, a mass loaded transmission line. Those tend to sound good
I wonder how that would sound inverted
That's a great explanation. It makes sense!
When I was in 7th grade me and my bf got summer jobs at Hollywood Sound Labs in North Hollywood, CA we just swept the store, washed the cars, and helped move things around and set up displays, I remember when they brought in the Bazooka Tubes brand, they were one of the first Bazooka Dealers in the country, there were varying heights of the tubes, back in 2008 I had 2 x 10" Bazooka Tubs, they pounded like they were 12's, lol
I love hearing about the history of these!
I have two of the 12-04 models. The sound produced is pleasant. ❤❤😍😍
I noticed the Tiffany style RCAs that Derick likes. I believe the reason why the speaker chamber is not bigger is for cone control. Considering the motor size which also makes it more efficient.
Good point
The chamber size was still to small one of the reasons they used that filling behind the sub. But it’s easier and cheaper to build the enclosure like that and shove some felt behind sub instead of a more difficult design which takes more skilled workers with more time increasing cost. Most people that buy this kind of product are not looking for anything more then what it does the way it is.
I used to drive an 89 Buick Regal in the 90s and had four Bazookas, two 12 and two 10. Man I missed those Bazookas.
I bet that sounded epic!
Great vid. I’d live to see a test on the “Bazooka” bass tubes
I hear you, I'm thinking about it.
I have one of these MTX 8” tubes. I need a new amp for it. It sounds great for what it is.
I have one of these along with a Boss Audio touchscreen head unit that I bought when my factory head unit went out. I have nothing but love for the MTX 8" tubes. My only con is I wish I would have went with the 10 or 12 as they do have ones that size. But they sound really good and are very reaponsive. I didnt really get the bad critiques you had in the beginning especially since in the end you talked about the point of this sub which is just to boost the bottom end of a lacking system. To do so you dont need much and also dont need super high quality materials. You just need something that is engineered decently to get the job done pretty well: doesnt have to be stellar.
I’ve got two 10” Bazooka Basetube dual 4 ohm voicecoil on about 600 watt pioneer in the tiny trunk of my 94 BMW 325i convertible. Nothing else will really fit n there but I can get low enough to feel bass in my seat back with that setup. What I’m saying is there is definitely still a need for the bass tube! Another plus for Bazooka is that they are way lighter than wood boxes since they use some sort of plastic housing. Great video as always!
This is so true because not everyone has the real estate for large enclosures.
Did you happen to run an impedance sweep to see where the enclosure is tuned at?
It would be pretty fun to drop in a high-performance 8 and maybe connect up a bigger external amplifier just to see what that enclosure is capable of. 😄
I have thought of doing that.
SAS Bazooka tunes were the best back in my day.
one thing that i notice on this bass tube is it seems responsive. the notes hit on time and stop on time.
@23:53 You and me both. It's got a lil pressure. 😂😂😂
Yep 😊
I bought a 10" Bazooka tube back in the mid-90's to take the place of my old twin 12" full range MTX box in my '87 Camaro. That 10" Bazooka sounded great.
In '05 or '06 the foam surround part of the subwoofer finally fell apart and I installed a cheap Lightning Audio subwoofer in the tube. Installed it in my Freightliner. It sounded okay. I haven't used the Bazooka tube in the last 15 years. Probably will need another subwoofer replacement.
I want to buy their Marine Grade version of the Bazooka. It would probably hold up better in my Jeep.
What ever happened to "Full Range" subwoofer enclosures. They were everywhere in the late 80's thru mid-90's. I guess they died off as hatchbacks died off?
One of these years I would love to restore my old MTX box. It has been in the shed for 27 years.
I've had many different setups from low buck to high end db drag setups. These ampped tubes are great for decent bass with a very easy setup and easy removal for your whole trunk area when needed. tubes are when you want decent sound for you, big sytems are for when you want EVERYONE to hear your music.
I had 2 10" Bazooka bass tubes. I had 2 Collins super bass tubes. I like the bass coming out of the Collins super Bass tubes, better than the Bazooka bass tubes. JBL & Teac still have bass tubes out, and they look like the Collins super Bass tubes that used to be out.
That's great to hear. I love hearing about peoples experience with bass tubes.
Back in '94 I was about 12, my brother had a 8 inch bass tube behind the passenger seat of his Mitsubishi Mighty Max pickup. I remember one of them being Blaupunkt then he got another I want to say it was MTX but I can't remember. Neither of them came with an internal amp and each one of them used to hit. I remember one day feeling the bass in my mama car when my brother was behind us in the truck at a light. That same truck (minus the system) became my first car when I started driving. I'm shorter than him so I was able to put a dual 12 inch truck box behind the seat, I had two Kenwoods, for the life of me I can't remember what amps I had. Good times tho.
Edit: the other one was a B-52
bro.. i dont even own a car.. but your channels pretty damn cool
Glad you enjoy it! I have plans to review more of these.
Back in 95 i think i was 14 or 15 yrs old. My friend used to have a 12 inch jensen in a bass tube facing downward between the bucket seats in 88 chevy s10 pickup and it pounded hard and had great sound quality
Those tubes definitely made a statement back in the day.
I had an old SAS 8” Bazooka Tube that I swapped the driver for a JL Audio W7 powered by a 600 watt USAcoustics amp.
It was pretty damn impressive.
I love to hear about your old setups! Thanks for sharing.
SAS was the parent company for Bazooka Tubes.
In '98 I installed 12 - 6 inch Bazooka tubes firing rearward in a hardtop Jeep Wrangler......small subs ahead of their time. At that time USAAC metered 147db.....
Not bad
@BudgetBassHead oh she banged!
I used to have 2 12 inch terminators and a blue thunder amp. I can’t remember the watts but it was an open box special. I was crunk! I miss those days
Liking all the testing gear your using
Thanks! This stuff is pretty important for good measurements.
I have a Bazooka powered 10 inch tube. I got it because it fits nice and snugly behind the seats of my single cab truck.
@BudgetBassHead- Please show how the peak Db., & peak freq. can change as the orientation of this enclosure changes. Try pushing this ALL the way to the back of your trunk, & turn it sideways(loudest my guess), then try it the opposite direction you have it in this video= face the woofer towards the rear bumper, & port forwards pointing(quietest my guess).
Good suggestion I'll think about it if I review another bass tube
@@BudgetBassHead - Couldn't you just make another video with this bass tube trying these different positions, please? Then it would be great if you would buy the Sas Bazooka tube to see which tube was louder, & which sounds better? I really liked how you took your time, & showed the inside of the enclosure, & amplifier. Oh, & showed us all the actual power, thank you. I would really like to see the same thing tested with a 8" powered Sas Bazooka tube!
I’m about to buy another bazooka tube. 10” active/powered. It is compact, and sounds great to me having previously installed many custom amplified automotive sound systems. I guess I grew out of it, but still want some extra kick at the moment. I might build my own bass tube. Time will tell. Bazzoka tube is really good if you want a moderate increase in bass without gutting your whole system or lesser variation of the goal.
That's a great idea to build your own!
I spray glue blanket style polyfill to walls of all my enclosures it’s just a thin layer but that layer helps every enclosure I build I test without it first and it’s always a little louder and cleaner sound with it and plays a larger frequency range much better as well.
Interesting, I'll keep that in mind.
I would try powering it with an external 200 watt amp to see what results you get. Just run the wires out of the port.
I think that would be a good experiment.
That bass tube is from a company here in Louisiana called SAS then they got popular and started going to shit when they started selling at Walmart
With Skullcandy ANC Crusher 2 headphones, this shit fucking WHOPPED! For those that don't know, that is an OG basshead term we used to use in the South for that heartbeat skippin pressure that make the trunk lid go WAHH WAHHH WAHHHHPPPPPPP! Another test for SPL before Amazon and shit was the quarter test. You pick a certain song time with a big drop and put a quarter on the edge of the trunk lid or spoiler and see how high it flips. Highest flip wins.
Another way to know you have a nice system, if you max out your amp to just below clipping, your trunk pops off the hinge from the back. Seen a few, did it twice myself. Not fun to fix, but it's a status thing, like followers or some shit. Now I'm not a budget basshead personally even when I was broke and the way you find that out is by blowing 6 sets of 1,200 watt mid tiered subs in about a month before you discover JL Audio. Then, you get some 13.5w7 subs with a PROPERLY TUNED AND SEALED box (please, don't even bother with the 10s or 12s if you're going to spend that much and sealed gives much better SQL than ported with minimum SPL loss comparatively to the gains) with professional installation by a REAL bass man such as this guy in the video,
You are then fully enlightened to the bliss of pure, crisp, chest thumping bass that cannot be found in ANY other way. And, they last forever. Prove me wrong please and I will bow before you. I'm in South America and I am begging JL to let me become a dealer just so I can put some 13.5 W7v3 sets in my cars and my peoples' cars. It's like, you're a junky, right, and you have been sober for 7 or 8 years, but you're STILL in withdrawals about to die. Yeah, that's me without JLs now. I dream about them every night and just CAN'T get them.
Someday though... some day.
Sounds like you know what you like! 👍
When I got my new to me car 2006 Honda Civic 4 door. I needed to put a new stereo in it. I added a 8 inch Bazoka Bass tube because it would fit behind the driver's seat with it all the way back, and was level with the back seat. It is powered off an old overkill Rockford Fosgate BBQ grill amp that is turned down a lot.
I think that would sound really good in the back of a Preus (sitting sideways). Thanks for the review.
I think you're onto something there!
I've used both mtx and bazooka and have no complaints from either, not gonna win any comps but they work, bazooka amps tho were awesome
That's a great point!
The bass tubes eliminate the need for internal supports due to their circular shape. This also helps create a more accurate cleaner bass. I had a 10 inch that gave me more bass from any 10 inch sub I've owned.
I remember my brother had the ones that came made in plastic called bazooka back in the late 90’s.
Thanks for the video. I really enjoyed it.
I'm happy you liked it.
At 20:14, That's Gene Cerwiniski. Founder of Cerwin, Vega.
Fire the sub towards the back of the car for best results! You want that Bass Wave Firing back at you hard!
port was in the back. He had it best optimized
...what you said ☝️
What about putting it horizontal across the back so that both ends fire into a corner?
Newbies, I have amps older then him on my wall. A couple of art series, 1991 alpine mrv 1505, he'll, I have a 12w5 jl form 89. You're absolutely right. Face it towards the trunk for it to resonate of the vehicle. A 2in port is not doing anything. He would've got a better bass response backwards like you said
@@tomb9566 lmao stick to your old school wall and don’t give recommendations to others about trunks. You have no idea what you’re talking about in terms of trunk builds.
Where are the Lumys 22 volts reference coming from, where are the leads connected? The amps speaker connection?
Does removing the plate amp to perform the test change the properties of the tube causing the ohms to rise more, therefore reducing the output from the amp? Wish there was some way you could test the tube while its assembled.
The plate amplifier is isolated from the subwoofer and port , so the answer is no it changes nothing.
@BudgetBassHead Cool. Thanks for the clarification
Still have my 700watt 8in bose bazooka i bought outta crutchfield in 97 and had it in a zr1 shit banged
Any value in simply running say 4 of these VS buying the equivalent single box/enclosure and amp all separately? What is the best way to get the most DB for your buck?
Sam, (Barevids) is the foremost Authority on amplifiers on UA-cam bar none. I ❤Big D no disrespect😁
Sam's definitely got a lot of great info on amps, for sure!
How do you install subs and wiring to stocks. One video a guy said you have to go to the car lot and have someone there wire it up? I have a q70 and that could be why?
The name of the company was SAS and the name of the enclosure was the "Bazooka Tube". I had a pair of 10" SAS Bazooka Tubes from the first run of tubes, arguably the best ever made. After that they changed how they made them, and they didn't sound the same. They caught ultra-low bass. A pair of 10s with 300 watts to the pair sounded like a pair of 12s in a ported box with 400 watts to the pair. Everyone wanted these.
The larger tubes made by other companies (12s, 15s) never sounded as good. They just didn't. No matter who made them. I will say that the speakers SAS was using were sub-par and the voice coils would eventually go. They did have a great RMS policy though.
The latter Bazooka Tubes from SAS were made of injection molded plastic and were all once piece. The originals were not. I took the time to figure out the materials and even got an SAS tech to give me the equation they used to figure out the length, wall thickness and ports (Both at the end and the top vent). The only thing they did different back then was add poly fill if they made the enclosures too small accidently. I loved my tubes. I wish I still had them. One day I will build a new set. But again, they never sounded the same after they changed how they were made. They were all passive back then. The amped versions came out before the re-model, and they were meh. The new models with the amps built in were trash compared to the originals with a good amp that could drop below 20Hz.
The manual asked that you corner loaded them so that each would fire toward the opposite side of the vehicle. They worked best this way.
I still have my set of original SAS Bazooka tubes I bought in 91’. One is powered the other is a slave.
Stay strapped!😮
The only thing I can't stand (and all budget products do this) is that they misrepresent the numbers.
Amplifiers, speakers, inverters, etc. this is something that's done with countless items but it is frustrating. Just give me the real specs so I can size the system up accordingly.
I do appreciate you taking the time to give us the real data on these products. I had a small "bazooka tube" back in the early 00's and didn't care for it. It was underpowered like this one.
I did however have 2x12's in a lit up bandpass box by a brand called "adrenlin" and I absolutely loved those things. Picked them up used from a pawn shop for like $50.
I noticed the sound in the video seemed to drop out when you were doing the frequency sweep in your vehicle. Right around 60 to 65 hertz. Was that just a glitch in the video or do you think the SPL caused the microphone to max out?
Could've been vibrating the mic weird
Yeah that was odd to me too n was wondering if the sub got quiet for a split second or if it was something else.
Sometimes my Bluetooth drops during bass sweeps.
@BudgetBassHead Okay, makes sense.
I kinda wanna throw like four custom made tubes in my truck and see how she goes
I say go for it! That would make for some interesting content!
18 12 inch bazooka bass tubes will hit a 161.3 on the meter. Ask me how i know..
That's a lot of tubes
I like your channel and am glad I found it. Correct me if I'm wrong but using a tablet or any other input device will change your signal strength and effect how many watts of clean power the amp can produce. that's the reason to look for 4 volt pre outs right? So I do not think this method of testing is accurate unless you can amplify the signal between the tablet and amp.
Good question you're the first one to ask about that. The gain settings on the amplifier is meant to match the input voltage, which in this case, was 1 volt. {0.5V per rca input}. This will change once installed into my car that has a 4V output from the DSP. But what will remain CONSTANT is the amplifier's output; that does not change.
@BudgetBassHead thank you for the reply. I look forward to more videos and learning more!
That sub in your tube is the same model they have just changed the basket and terminals for new stuff.
I'd like to see somebody hook up like 20 of these things in a minivan.
Now that would make a great video 😁
I saw a bumper sticker on a minivan that said, “Cool minIvan. -No one ever”
Bazooka tubes put an end to any doubts some people might have had about the importance of a properly designed enclosure.
I would install 4 of them in my car to see what it would sound like 👍
Interesting. Man that sht bumps, really impressive for the size and power. Sounds good on music too as far as I can tell from the video, no real obvious voids, sings well throughout the range. I think I’ll get one for my moms n put it in her 06’ Yaris. Will be more than enough for her. Prolly won’t even push the dial more than halfway. 😂 Won’t be intrusive n take up all her trunk space either. Edit: Price is right too, specially these days where everything is so dang expensive. (Cost of living overall, not bass tubes in specific).
That's a great idea! It'll be the perfect fit for her car.
@ Fo’ shizzle
I would need 6 tubes to be even in the realm of my 3 $27 8” in a ported box. $200 skar box and subs vs 6 bazooka tubes = $900 🤪
My cousin had five bazooka tubes in his old civic. His car was pounding bass.. 😎
I would love to have seen that!
I used to make my own out of thick PVC pipe. Hit hard AF lol.
I had a bandpass tube for an idq10 from the 1990’s
I think the gain should be reduced a bit. The driver is over extending. I like to set levels so I can't tell the sub is there until it's not there. That might have to do more with the crossover though.
So, if I lay my SVS 20-39 PC+ down horizontally in the back, would that count as a Bass Tube? 😁
I'm not familiar with it
@@BudgetBassHead Sorry, it was kind of a joke about throwing in a large Home Theater sub into the car.
The SVS 20-39 PC+ is a 12" downfiring speaker fitted into a 16" diameter by 39" long TUBE that hits sub 20 Hz by way of a housed 525watt amp. A 16"x40" tube might be less a "bazooka" and more a battleship cannon inside a car.
@@BudgetBassHead BTW, thank you for your channel.
I am learning A LOT from you, more than other channels that seem to focus on viewers that already know everything about speakers systems, by your simplified details and designs you make brilliance approachable for guys like me.
Hardly take up any space in the trunk. It could sit in the back and you still got trunk space. Nothing like them. Down firing subs work well as well . Just me.
Yep this is one of the highlights of this design
I had a bazooka bass run with only a 8 in woofer and everyone thought it was 2 10 s I didn't but it did sound good just enough bass and enough clearness but I had sub so that acted like a extra box being inclosed
It doesn’t matter if you send a clip signal into a class d amplifier anyways cause the signal that comes out of it will be clean still at least until you turn gain up and clip it.
Class d amplifiers overheat at the input section of the amplifier if you send too much voltage there.
We used to call them bass cannons where I was raised.
I had one of these and it wasn't bad for the price. I would not consider it a subwoofer for bass heads as much as it's just something to fill out a stock system and make it sound better.
They were a great budget option, but you're right, they weren't for serious bassheads.
My first bass was a bazooka bass tube. Probably 200-300 rms
i totally forgot that i have a powered 8" Bazooka tube (new in box) sitting on the shelf in the shed.
Wow. Not everyone can say that 😂
I think you might have it installed backwards it should be facing the other way
The port comes out the back of this enclosure, & corner loads off the back of the trunk. If the woofer were facing the opposite direction, the port would let the back wave of the woofer, mess with the time alignment, & cause cancellation= it would not be as loud. Turning this side ways might work better, if pushed all the way back. Then the woofer, & the port could corner load.
What you said ☝️