World's Worst Deer Hunting Neighbor
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- Опубліковано 6 вер 2024
- Having a bad deer hunting neighbor is no joke! Bad neighbors come in all shapes and sizes and on the surface can appear to ruin all of your deer hunting efforts. However, most neighbors can be an asset for you in one way, or another. Here are several potential deer neighbors - good and bad - and how each one can eventually turn into an asset for the entire deer hunting neighborhood.
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You have to remember there is a lot of guys out there that deer hunting isn’t that big of deal. As a land owner my biggest pet peeve is a deer hunting neighbor that gripes about my livestock or my dogs barking or my making noise while they are hunting. Remember you own your property not your neighbors and some of us are trying to make a living.
True, very true. But barking dogs is a pet peeve. In my area they bark for hours nonstop and owner does nothing. It may be your land but there's still such a thing as disturbing the peace and being a decent person/responsible pet owner.
Today there was a guy about 5 feet from our property line in a tree stand facing our property, I walked up to him and put a no trespassing sign on the tree in front of him. Then I ate my lunch in front of him, with music blasting, I pissed him off and are going to do it again tomorrow
@@emrythompson good job but it is illegal to harass a hunter in Wisconsin. Repeated visits may not be good.
@@anthonythorp7291 it is legal in Ohio, as long as you stay on your property
As long as he’s not trespassing who are you to say where he hunts. And on the flip side by that logic YOU shouldn’t even be near the fence line.
It gets harder and harder to figure out which of your videos is the best. This one ranks right up there at the top. I help my two neighbors with planting on my nickel for the exact reasons you describe. Some think I’m nuts for doing so. But the day I helped my 79 year old neighbor track and find the biggest buck of his life was way worth. And that happened because I shared my trail can pics with him. Great video Jeff
My name is Mike, and I’ve been antler shamed ....... it was a big spike to me ....
Great video, I have 90 acres thats surrounded by a thousand acres of land thats utter chaos. I learned a long time ago not to worry about what anyone else is doing or it will drive you crazy.
Best one about bad neighbors, I have a friend who belongs to a club that leased ground. Until recently in PA only police could arrest someone for trespassing not the game warden. Most people would just run someone off their land because to have them arrested meant you had to quit hunting,maybe after driving for hours to get to where you hunted. On this club they came across someone who gave them lip and made threats. When they told him leave, or be arrested for trespassing he said only State police could arrest him there. My friend said your right , Pulled out his badge and said your under arrest. He said you should have seen his face.
I just moved to 45 acres in PA. Good to know about the State Police. 2 weeks after i moved in a poacher shot a doe with a fawn... I was livid.
I'm just happy when my neighbors hunt period. We're a shrinking breed folks, and when it becomes a ballot issue we will need as many voters as possible on our side. Whether you hunt deer with a crossbow out of a box blind ontop of a corn feeder, or you only ground stalk with a struggle stick, we're all on the same team here.
I agree! Why complain about what your neighbours do on their own property, as long as they are not trespassing or purposely ruining your hunt, let them be!
This.
You're missing the #1...The unethical property line hunter with their stand facing your property! Then they hit a deer and it travels into your ground!
You will enjoy my upcoming combatting fence sitters video ☺️
@@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751 well hurry up with that video! I have one of those!
The worst part of this situation is you are the bad Guy when you get upset.
Great topic! I have land in NY, with neighbors who are great guys, retired firemen in their late 60's & early 70's however, they will ride ATV's & trespass, hunt your ladder stand if I'm not there, that's why I only use climbers and hunt when they are not there (which isn't often!). I'm 55 & they know me from when I was a kid, so they still see me that way. There's no talking to them, won't listen. Funny how you pointed out that we ourselves sometimes are the bad neighbor. Usually, the person that ruins your hunt is you, the next person is your hunting buddy.
Man that would be rough! But so true, often we are the bad neighbor...at least when it comes to influencing our own hunt.
It is funny that older generation thinks there are no property lines, they think it is still the way things were back in 1978.
I grew up with my dad saying you can't eat horns, if you get a buck you get a buck as long as there is meat in the freezer it doesn't matter. If I know a big buck is in the area I won't specifically target him till I already filled a tag. This past year for example I had already gotten 3 tags filled and was on my last day before I was able to get a nice 8 pointer. Then when someone who gets something like this is excited for even getting a nice deer or even a deer at all shows it off only for another trophy hunter to piss on his day can be disheartening. And that may be one reason why hunting is going do
The cool thing is that that trend is turning. Antler shaming was really prevalent back in the 2000s...the tide has turned tho.
It goes the other way too! For example if I just wanted meat my hunt would be over the first sit on public or private land in any state I hunt...within a few hours. Instead, I like to actually "hunt". Does are easy to kill...young bucks, so if I actually want to hunt I like working all year towards the challenge of an older buck. I shoot does...I hunt mature bucks. Someone who meat hunts has to respect someone that wants to hunt hard for an elusive older buck with actually more meat. And visa versa.
@@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751 it does go both ways and if a person only wants that big buck good on them every one does. But also alot of people don't have the time or money to drop thousands of dollars a season for the latest equipment or cams and may only be able to get out a couple of days a season, so if it's brown it's down is their way. Alot of being a good hunter is sportsmanship and respect, and that is one thing that faded out but is making a bigger come back at least
I’ve got new neighbors..their dog has been on my trail cams a few times. Guess I’m gonna have to have a chat with em.. Thanks for the great videos Jeff,always learning something new!!
Definately will Bill...good luck with the dogs! You are very welcome!
Have multiple neighbors dogs on each of my 5 game cameras. Hope the talk works.
Talked with them yesterday and it went very well. Apparently it’s a new dog so still learning. Seem like nice enough folks. We’ll see😎
Yep, bad neighbors everywhere. Got one of my own. All wildlife within miles is his. He trespasses, vandalizes, chases game off my property, violates game, and wounds/looses deer regularly.
Sheriff is a child refusing to serve me. And DNR won't do anything unless I have indisputable proof.
I have used brown it’s down guys to my advantage. They will usually be the only people who will give you a hand to drag out a big deer. They usually love hunting but are content shooting the first available animal. You let them participate in even dragging a big buck and they go nuts. I’ve had them tell me to stand back and enjoy the moment while they field dressed one of my booner bears. Here in Maine you aren’t moving a big buck a bear or a moose without help. They trophy hunters are always hunting or too jealous to help. I’ve had brown is down guys stop hunting and help me drag for half a day, take pictures and even follow me to the tagging station. They want to be part of something cool. Just something to think about. Trophy guy doesn’t want his clothes getting sweaty or bloody, doesn’t want to spook deer, needs to rest so they can hunt. Also like you said, they shoot does and little bucks. Who cares. The guy who passes on 150” bucks isn’t helping you do squat usually.
Amen Roy!
Not true l am a so called trophy hunter and love to help others see their buck, and video them when l get there. That's best part of hunting is sharing the experience.
@@rodneygilbert5183 he said usually that is the case. The fact that you may not fall into the category doesn't make him wrong. Maybe it varies based on the area of the country you are in. But then again, maybe his experience is exceptional.
Brown and down neighbors we have left shotgun weekends while farm alone so deer can use farm as escape sanctuary always got bow season
Roy as a fellow Mainer I almost think it’s ingrained in us to help out our fellow hunters up here. There’s been plenty of times I’ve heard someone shoot close to me and I’ve given it a few minutes then hiked on over to where the shot was to help a fellow hunter search for a blood trail or help drag out a deer. Sometimes that turns into the best Day out hunting for me.
I had bad neighbors on all 3 sides. I had bought their uncles 100 acre property and they hated me for it. After 8 years of being harassed i finally sold and bought rec prooerty elsewhere. ..
Dang...that's too bad. I bet refreshing now!!
"Sometimes the world's worst neighbor is ourselves"...damn. Good call. I have to remember that nobody is required to do as I wish. If I only get to hunt three days a season I'd probably shoot brown too. Now let's talk about sausage recipes!
It's time for breakfast!
Great video Jeff. Remember if you have a negative encounter with a neighbor it will only get Worse over time and never improve. As difficult as it may be,....try to keep treat them with the Golden Rule in mind during your discussion. You may be able to work towards a positive relationship over time. Also if they are local and you are not, remember being right doesn't necessarily mean you will get your desired outcome.
there are far to many horrible people - people always push everything to the point of making it illegal, but even after it is / these same people will still do whatever they want - take what they want - even on your dime and your efforts on your property
Great topic and message 👍. I've made friends with all of my neighbors on my new land. We share game trail pics of deer, bear and others. You also never know when you may need access to their land to retrieve a deer. Always good to have them on your good side.
My state finally made it legal to supplement feed all year. And no feed within 100 yards of a property boundary. The state also added a provision that all landowners are responsible for the actions of others using or leasing their property. Any issues with neighbors must be settled by the two owners, not users or lease holders. This is for residential and agricultural zones.
Our neighbors trailer is 150 yards from our cabin up in the saddle between two hills. The night before is just pulling out the lab tops, showing trail cam pictures, comparing what we have seen and sometimes, figuring out, well if you go in there, they may be laying around your stand. Then they want us to look over their property for the ATVs that try to get up on the hill from the rails to trails right of way, since they live 3 hours away. The number of big bucks each of us has got is funny for a mostly wooded area. The last few years we had deer, but the week before the season they disappear from the combined 850 acres. We have not located who is corning the deer, but we have checked enough deer shot the second week of the PA season to know, they have corn in their bellies and a lot of it. So maybe a 5th type of near neighbor, the baiter.
Thanks for posting this.
I’m having big problems with very bad neighbors.
My sister has 30 acres that she and her Husband have a small cabin, an outdoor shooting range and a shed for their atv’s on.
It’s solely a fun property for the family.
I take great care of the property and built all the structures.
It’s not an incredible deer hunting property but through my efforts it’s been getting better every season.
We now have more deer than ever and even some fairly impressive bucks but not many.
It’s definitely if it’s brown is it big enough property.
So our a hole neighbor has been trespassing and walking up to family
members while they’re shooting or talking at the cabin.
He’s asked numerous times to hunt our property with firearms and then proceeds to say he’s a convicted felon and if we let him hunt he will keep an eye on our place when we’re not there.
Finally he walked up on me one day and asked again.
I was nice but told him it’s private family property.
The deer are limited and we don’t ride the trails for fun only to drag a deer if we have to.
The trails are for stalking and exercising and it’s not cool to brag that you’re a convicted felon while asking to hunt firearms.
I told him under no circumstances is he to hunt here and anyone caught here will be prosecuted.
So recently i’ve been finding our trails tore the hell up and I mean badly with ruts like people have been riding all day every day.
I never was able to catch them because my brother in law wouldn’t buy cameras.
Finally I caught the trespasser neighbor who invited two other atv’rs to our property to ride while I came to do some scouting.
I tore them a new asshole and informed them the sheriff would be serving them if I caught them again.
A month later they were back and I got them on cell camera on atv’s.
I talked to the sheriff and he’s in the process of serving them....he said he would inform me if/when they serve them.
I spent the morning today dropping large trees to block any and all entrances to our property including a obvious trail leading from our property straight to the neighbors house.
Wonder how he would feel if I turfed his yard with my atv while he was away.
I’m so disgusted with scum bag thieving trespassers.
I’d love to set traps with fishhooks, pitfalls and nail boards but I don’t want to injure deer and I know it’s illegal to do those things although would love to see them go running home with a treble hook stuck in their eyelid.
I have heard this guy on our property in the past shooting deer with a shotgun while I was at the other side of the property.
I caught him running from me one evening and he had left a pile of beer cans where he was hunting from one of my ladders.
In a perfect world Id love to get righteous revenge.
If I see any of these bastards poaching this season it’s gonna get ugly but legally unfortunately.
We also had two very nice dirt bikes stolen from the shed a year prior.
Gotta say I’m loving the moultree cellular cameras but I really hate the stress that trespassers cause by making you feel like you gotta constantly watch your back on your own property.
Good thing is the sheriff know him well and seems eager to take him down when the time comes.
If he's on your property and he's a convicted felon AND he usually has a gun because he"s hunting I'd say you have a better story line than him, just saying
Eliminate the cameras and its just 2 men out in the middle of the woods. A lot of shit can happen in the woods whether it be bad or good
Had one guy who is all ready on probation get caught tearing everything out of our hunting cabin and ran off into the woods and came back later that day and stole an ATV.
As a mostly public land or small parcel private land hunter I LOVE, LOVE, LOVE finding neighbor #3. That guy has put several whoppers on my wall.
Exactly. If you feel "you can't keep up with the Joneses" you've got bigger problems to deal with
Thanks Jeff, good to share in the coop to help resolve potential issues 🙂
good morning! i cant beleive you posted a bad neighbor video! i have been waiting for exactly this. thank you
Ha, I hope that it helps 😁
struggling with a common border. like..if i thicken the border how will it effect the deer..i have my bedding areas and food plot and travel corridors on the interior and stands to the outside with 90 degree acces trails..worried if i thicken a border on one side it will disrupt my set up.
So many pieces to assess...but this is where food on 1 side if the land is often best, so that bead neighbors are on the opposite side and carry very little impact to the intended daily deer movement...
@@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751 thank you! i have followed your instructions to the letter so i feel i am good! thank you! i feel better. lol
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I have the bad neighbor rolled into one he has just managed to me, my cameras, the game warden, by the skin of his teeth I have pictures of him on my land poaching but not clear enough to prosecute I have a picture his wife and four kids in the middle of the property on a ATV and he has stolen one of my deer stands but managed to hide it well enough that the game warden found his tracks but not the stand. This guy has also managed to damage the creek crossing in the middle of me property by trying to put in a huge culvert with a bunch of heavy rocks and cement thinking it wouldn't wash out and of course it did and is has been replaced with an 8ft wide piece of steel that is flimsy and very shaky. People like him are why city people need to quit moving out to the country, those of us that have always lived out here just think they are all idiots anyway and they ruin our way of life by coming out here. My creek crossing was the way it was for 150 years for a reason because no one has been able to tame that creek and it proved him wrong just like every other idiot who has tried and next time it floods it will be even worse.
GAH! Not even a property owner and it sounds like the guy is out of hand. If he is will to do that much BS, I wouldn't be surprised if he is a criminal in other ways and a threat to the general public. I've heard stories of how John Doe was a public nuisance and ends up in prison for murder, robbery, rape, drugs, etc. I hope you and law enforcement are still keeping a look out and keep a gun on you. Again, if they are that entitled, they might up their game to violent retaliation.
Great video . I allways feel good about watching your videos and reading the comments and seeing that while there are bad neighbors ;there's. A ton of good people out there that have respect for others and treat others like they want to be treated.they go about there business doing the right thing
(Silent majority) perhaps .these are the people watching your channel.
Glad to be in that number;looking forward to next video
I bet you would be an awesome neighbor Norm!! Thanks for watching on this fine Sat morning 👍
Yep I had one of my neighbours drive a tractor through two of my food plots.
Dang...why...who would do that? Crazy disrespect...
The best is when they set up a stand right on the property line, walk right along a key area to get to it, never shoot anything there but ruin it for you
That's why so critical to access right along side them ..on your border. Be neighborly...bring then coffee and donut in the morning on the way to your stand...
Whitetail Habitat Solutions I’ll make sure it’s a coffee without a lid 😂. And unfortunately it’s a very small parcel so he basically ruins the whole part with any normal winds
It kinda sucks but it’s his property so...
I’m sure dealt with this in Michigan and Wisconsin. Neighbors who allow large deer drives to take place during firearms seasons. Which category should they fall in? Here in northern Ohio (flat ag) these drives take place every day of gun season (10-15 guys/trucks pushing small blocks
I love your message. Be neighborly! It’s contagious.
We have 14 acres and some good neighbors. Share trail camera pics and keep track of the older buck together. One even bought more land and it looks like he extended his atv trail this year! Last year's 11pt came from that direction on opening morning. 😎
How many seeds ended up in your boots when you were broadcasting seed in shorts? 🤔
Very few on that 1/4 acre food plot thankfully 🙂
What do you do though if that #2 guy is actually a member of your club and doesn't think his ATV riding blows out deer
For me personally I wouldn't hunt in the club. Just don't have time for that ..
@Whitetail Habitat Solutions it's been my families property since the early 50s. 5 years ago that changed when it fell behind due to backtaxes when my grandmother passed away and we all thought it was paid up. It went to sheriff sale and some of the guys helped us pay to get it back. It went to court and it was turned into nonprofit so I can't even kick the guy out anymore bc he's 1 of 5 board members. 😞
My neighbors hunt on top of the fence and my camera cards show up missing all the time. Of course nobody knows what's going.. I had to put cameras up in the trees to protect my trail cameras. Very frustrating..... still kill bigger bucks than they do and I love them being 50 yards away from me and can see it happening.
Then you have the "neighbor" that comes in buys property solely to block access to public lands.
What if there’s a public road splitting your cooperative neighbors property ?
Yeah, some guys from St.Louis came down from the city and purchased up a lot of land. All season long they are driving atvs in and out of 95 acres. What's worse is I've caught them on MY trail cameras on MY small 10 acre parcel. If they didn't hunt like morons they wouldnt need to trespass!
I love the thumbnail!
Also... my neighbor has a helicopter. Ruins many fall hunts...
We have a parachute plane that flys over the land and spooks deer... can't stand those things. Creepy too...
About antler shaming what may. To be a trophy to you may be another’s. When I first started bow hunting I hunted hard for 3 seasons before I finally connected. Every time something went wrong arrow grazed a branch or jumped the arrow. But I got to say I think I’m proudest of that first deer. Yes he was “just” 4 points but to me he is a trophy!!
What about neighbors stands on the edge of my property?
Best spot for you to access your land. Make sure to stop and chat with them on the way to your deer stand 👍
If the stand is on their property and they’re not shooting deer off your property there’s nothing u can do. Once you start harassing them by using that area to access your property or doing stuff to send a msg you’ve become your own worst enemy.
@@jeremygourde9880 they are my worst enemy. They steal my trail cam cards. I had to lock my hunting blind up
Same with me. They where switching out my cards to see what was going by my woods so I have a bunch of different sd cards that are not mine
Great topic! Spot on. Thanks again Jeff.
Thank you Robert!
What would you do if your neighbor that hunts on your fence line claims to sees ghost all the time and writes about his local ghost hunting's and evp experience? I stopped letting people on my land because if he falls out of his own stand on your property, he or she can sue the pants of you. Its not the hunter that's the problem , the problem is we don't know which one is on meth or other drugs/alcohol or a rapist these days?
Sounds like your neighbor has it all figured out shooting all the big bucks
I've actually never had a neighbor like that 😉 These are just examples while working with over 1000 landowners across the country while designing their whitetail parcels...thousands of neighbor's 👍
great subject Jeff I had a beautiful 21/2 year old 8 pointer under my tree 3 times in 1 day last fall, I dropped acorns on his head, would have been a stud this year! About a week after that hunt I saw a picture of the buck on a cement floor with the neighbor beside him. Good for him thats awsome! Wondering if you are going to try to talk your wife into letting you buy a tractor and equip. with the new Mn. property I think you said you had 20 acres tillable? You must have the itch!
Dang that sure happens! I think we have all been there BC!
After putting over 500 hours on my previous tractor - I cured the itch 😁 Also like to improve the soil, spend less time and money with my no till methods 👍 may get a skid steer some day this...getting the itch for that
We have multiple 4’s around us. We own just shy of 75 acres in Central Texas and the surrounding neighbors are all 150 plus acre properties, the biggest being 600 acres on our road. All of these families have been out here since the mid 1800’s and act like they own the place. Back then in our area deer were almost nonexistent because of over hunting until antler restrictions were finally put into action. But that doesn’t matter to this one family that is our direct neighbor that had about 15-25 hunters on 250 acres and will shoot anything they see. They even have admitted to shooting a bobcat off our property and to make us feel better say it was shot in our other neighbors property. Our other immediate neighbor has purposely mowed the fence line in the evening and morning, drove it on his utv, and even spread laundry detergent to get rid of deer. We’ve been out here for 15 plus years and I’ve grown up here and it never fails. Almost ruins living out here. We’ve planted food plots each year, fed protein, improved not only our land but others around us, spared young deer to let mature. Habitat loss has been a large issue, around us we probably had 1,500 acres of solid mesquite and it went to open pastures in a short time of around 4 years.
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I have 2 separate neighbors with deer stands right on the property line looking at ours, one even cut a lane on our side of the line. So I put no trespassing signs all around that area and intends to plant giant miscanthis grass in front of the other guys stands....those and the thieves are the worst to me. The one neighbor even complained about his other neighbor doing the same thing he just did to me when we met him last summer
😂😂 I did the same thing. Kid stole a battery out of little boat I had in there. Little creek. I followed the 4 wheeler tracks back to their house. There sat the battery on the porch. Just so happens me and his daddy grew up together. Friends. He handle it. No more problems.
Great video Jeff! Love the weekend videos great weekend for deer chores
Thank you! I always try to get them out early on Saturday...great chore day ☺️ I'm on the way to a client now for the day...
I have one who put up a deer stand right on the property line. Then cut down a huge oak tree right on my property. Hes an older guy and been living there longer than I have been alive. Any advice?
Honestly the best thing you can do is be neighborly. Make sure access to hunt right on your property line, and bring him coffee and donuts when you do. Stop and chat. Builds the relationship and you keep from messing up your own land by just duplicating hunting access pressure...not adding more in another location. 😁 Seriously...access right next to him.
Adding a fake stand or blind right in the same spot helps too.
@@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751 I have set up a second tree stand near him. And have reached out to him to invite him to hunt with me. I told him I was cultivating the deer for the fall. He seemed quit interested. Hopefully he is accepting to this and could bring us into a working relationship. If you have anymore ideas I would greatly appreciate it.
You mentioned neighbors forming a Co-op for deer improvement. Do you have experience in what size that works well?
We just purchased new property. The first thing, I did was talk to the neighbors as they purchased. We have collaborated on deer stand locations, wind patterns, movement patterns, etc. It has been a great experience so far. He has the bedding and cover and I have been focusing on food plots and green for fall and winter. I choose to not focus on to much bedding improvements since the neighbors and I have a tripled our resources, acreage, and we don't even hunt on each others property.
Forgot to mention. We have 18ac. One neighbor has 18ac as well and then one has 60ac. It boiled down to habitat and features rather than size. This year will be the first year we all this corroborative effort.
I thought I’ve seen many videos where you say let the neighbor hunt poorly and the Mature bucks end up on your property ?
I do not like if neighbors come through on my land with their ATVs or walking for exercise they need to let me know when advance. But as far as using an ATV to get to my Deerstand and I park at 100 yards away or even 50 it does not bother me and it does not bother the deer
Some people don't have time, energy, or money to build a habitat. Some folks go out into their back acres a couple times a year and take enough meat just to fill the freezer. Where that deer came from, or why it's so healthy is not as important to them as feeding the family. So while it may be frustrating for a neighbor who is actually helping build that herd, it is what it is. If you throw a $100 bill on a public road, don't be surprised that it's gone after a few hours. Thank you for saying that these guys aren't necessarily bad or doing something wrong....just frustrating...
Good call on "working WITH your neighbors ". Unless someone is trespassing and snooping around, they probably have no idea how hard you're working on helping the herd, all they see is a legal kill.
Your views seem very balanced and carefully worded. Good job. I just found your site, instantly subscribed.
18 "thumbs down" on this video.....I guess that's 18 bad neighbors. LOL. Truth hurts sometimes.
Ha, too funny 😁 about 4.5 to 5 down per 100 up is about normal. Looks more authentic, ha. The engagement is huge on my videos so there will be a few.... especially when the truth hurts 👍 Quite often folks don't want to admit their ATV access kills their potential - that's part of it
I have actually been shot at before by a neighbor who was trespassing. Guy shot at me with a crossbow and mistook me for a deer. I was a very unhappy hunter and made sure this person who prosecuted to the fullest extent. These neighbors trespassed for years and over the years received multiple citations and still didn't get it
You should never wear your rattling horns on your head LOL
I hunt in woods behind my house. The neighbor is anti hunting. One opening day there was a Lions football game on and that afternoon he had the volume up so loud I could distinctly hear the play by play all the way from his house to my blind.
They always walk their dog out to do his business in their own yard until deer season... then they take him out to the woods along the fence line as close as they can get to my blind. Two weeks ago I went to check on a trail cam and found multiple droppings of dog poop near my camera. They are smart enough (or lucky enough) that they don't step in front of the camera and all the droppings are right at the base of the tree where my camera is located so not even the dog is in the pictures.
Hang another camera at a higher height facing the 💩 site.
We have some neighbors who are on the same page for the most part, but in between we have lessees who feel the best places to hunt are the property lines of the people who do the heavy lifting. If you look at their stands they are almost exclusively on the line, or better yet on the intersection of two nice properties (whose owners pretty much follow sensible management guidelines) and their lease, which resembles a pool table most of the fall. To me this is more annoying than outright trespassing because there's not much you can do... it's like a kid thumbing his nose and going "nah nah nah nah nah"...just lazy and juvenile. My neighbor calls it "casual trespass".
What is next. Suggesting what kind of truck your neighbor should drive?.What color they should paint their house?
Unfortunately I have trespassing scum neighbors. Multiple. They hunt, they ride atv, ect ect. I actually dropped trees across atv trails and they cut and moved them. Huge task considering they were large trees. Property is clearly posted and they have been warned. They simply run off when you see them. Unfortunately local magistrates rarely do anything but warn them to stay out.
That's a tough one Rich...hope you can't catch them stealing something "worth" $1000 or more...
Whitetail Habitat Solutions it is more than frustrating Jeff. I have really improved the habitat and hunting using your advice and tactics. I do wonder how good it could be without the trespassing. There is so much atv activity in the area the deer are conditioned to it a bit. I Try not to let it bother me too much. Keep churning out the great content!
Would be worth contacting a lawyer. Perhaps could be a lawsuit for impinging on your enjoyment of private property?
Might I suggest a box of 1-1/4" roofing tacks spread evenly over each of their illegal entry points. Soak them in white vinegar overnight to turn them a dark color. Just remember not to drive there yourself.
I've been blessed with great neighbors...always respectful of the property lines...but I also enjoy the way they get to their stand during gun season (4 wheeler)...have definitely taken advantage of that...such good neighbors
I love it Brad! Food neighbors...who drive ATVs to stands ☺️ Warms my heart...
@@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751 mine too...it means time to get ready!!
Amen! Love the put-put-put of highly defined deer movement....
Lol. What a bag of bull shit. We ride our atv on or farm in new England. And on our farm in Pennsylvania. And we respect our property's. The deer are so use to. The. Atv. Running year round. , I have. Shot wall. Hangers. Within 7 or 8 minutes of getting in stand. With my atv i just rode to within 30 feet of my stand
I dont know why. An atv. Means. Its brown. Its. Down. Lol. My wall. Tells a different story.
No-one has the right to trespass or tell others what to do. If someone buys land they can manage it for deer or use it as a family hunting spot and shoot does or spend the weekend riding atv’s. As long as it’s legal they can do what they want.
Exactly...you must have watched the video ☺️ I personally love ATV riding neighbors and those that "meat hunt".
i'm highly suspicious that my new neighbor is hunting out of season AND killing juveniles, 6 month olds. what do i do?
Call the game warden. Also, Try and get it on camera
@@michaelargenta3856 that didn't do any good.... the game department and the state police are pathetic. the good news is, i'll never need another hunting license again, because they don't follow up or investigate poaching at all here and sense the neighbor is killing everything, i have to hurry and hunt out of season or my family will starve
I had a horrible neighbor that would drive his diesel truck down the property line and would do hole shots by some of my blinds over and over every evening. He lost the house and land after 3 years so it's better but I did have to address dog's last year so it never ends.
As soon as I saw the title and the thumbnail. 🤦🏻♂️
my neighbor is a fair weather “hunter” who gets from his house to the party house by ATV. Gets home in November around 5:30. Anybody know what time that is in Ohio??? Money hour.
I feel kind of set aback being lumped in with your "bad neighbor" list. Worked my entire life to afford my own land, tractor, drill, corn planter, lime spreader, fert spreader, cultipacker, sprayer etc. And spend my entire year improving the habitat that i can to help the herd. I'm the only one that leaves acres of standing corn so that the neighbors deer for miles have food for the winter. Constantly get deer pics in Jan/Feb and find sheds of deer that i never see during season that live miles away that others shoot. Have some brown it's down, semi QDM and some real QDM neighbors. As long as they hunt legally i respect them all. I even plant some neighbors plots for free if they buy the seed and fert. Just can't understand why i'm a "bad" neighbor?
Just started watching your videos recently and did subscribe as i do enjoy them.
Not sure the misunderstanding...you sound like a great neighbor 👍
What I am referring to are the folks who own land, build a great doe herd...increase the population too much and actually build a poorly balanced and low quality deer herd. They then feel they have to shoot an above average number if does due to the poor herd they built, actually lowering the numbers in surrounding parcel and creating a poor neighborhood. Common problem with large, scientifically managed- but poorly managed whitetail parcels that can't fix the problem by spending more money. In fact it magnifies the problem.
Hope that makes sense! Nothing to due with being neighborly or being a nice person...they just hinder the neighborhood's whitetail potential.
Great video Jeff!!! Very solid advice. 👍🏽
Thank you very much!
I think you could probably add more types.
I've got 40 acres in NW Illinois. My neighbor is a good guy and he doesn't hunt himself, BUT he lets FIVE other guys hunt his 11 acres that join my creek bottom! Another 17 acres across the same fence is hunted by atleast 3 guys. That's atleast 8 people hunting the 28 acres over my west fence. There is so much pressure on the land around me that we almost never see a deer after October 1st. I'm 1/2 mile from some state land and I can drive around it in the winter and see 40 or more deer in an evening when I've seen 2 or 3 sets of tracks on my week old snow.
Sounds like you ought to hit that state land then!
Control what you can and let go what you cant. Great video looking forward to all your content in next few months. Like you said there are more than enough bucks and does for everyone or else there would be no season. Just hunt your best and on the best days for your stand setting and your competion will just fall into place by their hunting skill and knowledge. Yes a blind squirrel finds a nut but big bucks are only routinely killed by a certain type of hunter and thats where I try to fall.
Some hunters don’t believe in the QDM management style. Personally, I don’t have a high amount of confidence in the QDM system for small properties. There are people who have their own opinions regarding management. There’s also hunters who aren’t primarily concerned with antler size. I’d rather see people enjoy their property on their own terms. Big bucks are not the only objective. Sharing time with good people is the best reward in deer hunting. Too many people seem to think they have some right to judge their neighbors based on their own opinions
I had a neighbor that would bang on pots and pans and yell. She said they were her pets. LOL she spooked a good buck to me. I shot him and waved when I drove past her house. I was hunting 4-500 yards off her boundary, but if she saw my truck she would always commence to making noise.
This is my nightmare.. where I'm from I SE Ohio is a poor, rural area. Idk what it is about poor, rural people, but it seems the majority of them are dirt bags. Big land is also very cheap there, w/great hunting. Its been my dream since I was a kid to own land and be able to have good, peaceful deer hunting that is my own. Isk what I would do if I dealt w/some of the horror stories, probly sell it and go back to hunting public..
I know in my state it is easier for antihunter hippie types to deliberately make noise and scare animals away if they stay on their own land. A judge within the last couple years through out a case for that reason and I think prosecutors are less likely to go after them.
Not sure why anyone would do that! Not good...
Watching this is interesting. What do you do? With a meat hunting nabors on one side.
A a farm with depredation permits?
Oh yeah i can relate to that i really try to take my hunting serious opening day of powder season i pack in with lunch to make a day of it also cause my stand was so far in timber .9 oclock hear 4 wheeler long behold here comes trespasser it teally upsets you but sometimes all you can do is be nice most the time cause these locals know the trails and where your stands may be if they decide to help themselves.
I have hunted with all kinds of neighbors and the best thing to do is use what ever they do to your advantage. Yes it would be great if they were like minded but if not capitalize on there mistakes. The largest bucks are always taken on my side of the fence
Collaboration, it takes continuous effort for good results, however conflict will generally result in frustration and failure, real and or imagined.
Effort is surely jacking in today's society in just about everything. But deer hunting.
Oh yah! I'd have my wife bake fresh donuts every Sat morning 😂.( like you need that) and bring them to you.
That is if I had you for my neighbor..doing all you do in herd building
Neighbor hung hundreds of dryer sheets and threw moth balls down the fence line to apparently direct or contain deer. Who does that?
Good stuff Jeff....what kind of t-shirt is that?
Hi Scott...thank you! That is a First Lite tech T-Shirt...love them! Lightweight Merino layer
Found em. They look like they have quality gear! Great...now something else to spend money on...thanks 😆
I had it great for years. My neighboor had 100 acres. He was old never hunted and only allowed me and my son to hunt his land which we never did as i own 70 acres. He has now passed on and his kids sold his land and now the new owner parties all fall driving jeeps , Atv's all over. Leaving beer cans and garbage everywhere. They have crossed my land as well and it has pushed all the deer out. It was great but now its over.
You should have bought it. I guess. , maby the guy who bougt it likes jeep riding. And hates hunting
@@toddreynolds8875 Well first off im not rich. I own 60 acres next to it. I have mortgage on my house and 40 acres attached to my house. I pay enough in taxes in the communist state of Ny. I tried buying the land from the owners greedy kids. I offered them a fair price. Tgey said no. It sat on the market for almost 2 years before it sold lower than what i offered them originally. So im guessing you own hundreds of acres and you are independently wealthy.. The new owners are drunks and liberal snowflakes who do drugs. They dont carw about hunting or destroying everything and ruining others hunting. Thanks for your wise and well thought out input.
@@sandych33ks1 i. Was. Just stating , we see it all the. Time. No one wants a house built next to them. I always tell them. Buy the lot its been for sale for 12 yrs. Im. Not. Busting your balls , but. Maby they like camping and not hunting. And yes got a farm. And i know the rotten liberal mindset. I. Live in liberal ville rhode island.
The worst neighbor is you you think you own all the deer
60 acres to hunt on? seems like you are expecting a lot. i can't see dinging on the big acreage holders, but i would not hunt for horns. if you don't have a game fence why worry about it. sometimes hunting is more than trying to hedge your bets for the big one. stay safe out there and take what you can get with diplomacy.
On the places I hunt now my neighbor wont even use a gun anymore because he says it's to easy
Also my neighbor has endless money
Number 4 is the freakin worst. Have dealt with lots of them especially during turkey season!
How about neighbors who think it’s acceptable to grow marijuana on your land
Whoa...that's a little nuts!
Deer love marijuana
Scofari So do a lot of people
Neighbor has a tree stand in a tree that is (technically) on my property but is on their "side" of the fence. Tree grew around the fence and is leaning over towards their side enough that they have the stand on their side of the fence line(not property line). Pretty much the trunk of the tree is on my side but because the tree leans they put a stand in it that is on their side but of course the stand faces my food plots.. Saving up for a survey to be done, already took one of their stands down that was without a doubt on my side and they threw a fit. Not worth cutting the tree down but sure has been considered.
Id cut the tree down. Or if the devious side of me won, I’d be tempted to cut a notch in the tree so them hanging on the other side could bring it down. Might just make them stop hunting it. But in all seriousness, it sounds like talking to them doesn’t help, makes you wonder if a survey will do any good assuming you don’t move the fence to the survey line. Make sure to steer your deer lines of movement away from that border.
Sounds like a bunch of land owners doing exactly what they have the right to do. My neighbors do food plots and the whole nine yards, don't shoot anything. I hardly touch my land and take beautiful deer every season.
I’m sure you can relate but my neighbor is a big baiter so early now season I see lots of bucks and does but once November 1st roles around they are gone . I do food plots hemp ropes and very light pressure in early season what do I do ? Northern Michigan Alpena area
Early now season
I hate spell check Bow season
The thumbs down on this vid is the guy who never has owned land,probably never will,tespasses at will,and pins his treestand right on the property line.Then your the ashhole.Been there.Dumped that.
Our property is behind a trailer park and all of our deer gets killed bye them and they have shot at us on our own property but we called the cops and hey some how got away
Haha. Number 2...describes all of Missouri.
I shot one trophy buck...once. The years after that...the property and surroundings no longer had any more decent bucks or deer in general. I’ve come to find out that, the big bucks is a magnet. They herd the does, chasing, scraping, and keeping the property in a way “fresh”. If you want to see big bucks...don’t shoot em. Shoot the smaller ones or the old ones. But the Bucks in their prime...let him be. Thats been my experience. I hunt a small 7 acre hidden plublic land gem with a huge buck. I pass him every year. If I want to harvest does/smaller bucks...they’re always around. I hoping I see him again this 4th year...just so I can pass him up again.
Add Jeff liked your video just wanted your thoughts on it and see any comments on how do you keep the Amish of my land
Dwaine Garansi
Have a seance every friday.
Lol. We have 30 Acres in a perfect rectangle shape , and We got one of each of your “neighbors” on all 4 sides 🤦🏻♂️lol ... but I keep telling myself that it just means I got the safest place for all the Deer . 👍🏼👍🏼
Have a conversation with your neighbors that have the larger farm, and/or the equipment. They may be willing to help you with their equipment for money or trade of goods or labor.
Absolutely!!! My uncle had some land next to a farm.
His neighbor let him use his tractor and equipment in exchange for some deer meat and antlers every year.
He also let my uncle hunt hogs on his property. They have a great relationship as far as helping each other out.
All the neighbor wants is a few does for the tender meat. My uncle is glad to help.
Yep set up stand for my youngest son..wasnt seeing deer like we should..scouted on the way out one day..tresspasser had hung a stand right in bedding area above us..not sure if they shot anything but appears they enjoyed some cigarettes and couple bags of chips
Real good vid Jeff thanks!
I have 80 acres private and hunt selectively because ive gotten to a point where thats what satisfies me but would never ask another hunter to do what makes me happy. Money has hurt hunting. Bigger bucks yep, but much less fun than when I was a kid. I believes that's part of the decline in hunters countrywide. It was a wholesome sport then. So commercial now. I know guys who wont let other friends hunt their property because they may shoot "their" bucks! Hunt in a way that makes you happy with the time and budget you have as long is its ethical and your not being a jerk. And on topic..Trespassers are the worse. Put up fresh signs and have guys walk past them as if they own the place. Had a guy park his wheeler in the middle of my property last year. I was in disbelief. I thought my hearing was off.
i would suggest on the neighbors possibly shooting every deer is to talk to them see if they would be willing to do a 2 year plan of just taking 2 deer per year. And then offer your help in creating a small little spot for habitat. This all depends on how big the hunting party is as well and how many acres they have. So many factors in play. The biggest issue we see is UTV's and 4 wheelers running and mud bogging during and prior to season, oh and pickups. But i see a huge issue developing or has been here for awhile, more and more public lands are disappearing and forcing more people into hunting less areas that have habitat, that creates 2 issues, 1. when numbers of deer go down because of lack of habitat we create a snowball affect. 2. people are fighting each other for less area to hunt. We need to go backwards and get more public owned land back.
What about fence line hunters ???
That video comes out in a few days ☺️ hope you like it!
Always like and learn a lot from your videos my farm layout is kinda like your layout
Very cool...that hopefully helps a lot! Thank you very much for watching