‘You’re a Sociopath’: Mehdi Hasan vs Eylon Levy on Gaza | FULL DEBATE
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- Опубліковано 9 лют 2025
- “You can choose to be on the side, not of cruelty, not of criminality, but on the side of the innocent people of Gaza who are being killed as we speak by Eylon’s former colleagues in the Israeli military on the orders of Eylon’s former bosses in the Israeli government.”
Watch the debate between Mehdi Hasan, award-winning journalist and Zeteo founder, and former Israeli government spokesperson Eylon Levy that took place in New York City on Saturday, September 21st.
The event was organized by @OpentoDebate, around the question: "Were Israel’s Actions in the Gaza War Justified? "
Chapters
9:26 Debate introduction
11:10 Meet our debaters
12:50 Eylon opening statement
19:00 Mehdi opening statement
24:30 Eylon- What justifies the proportionality of Israel's response to Oct 7?
30:18 Mehdi- What would've been an appropriate response?
34:44 Eylon- What's the greater good to justify this war?
41:45 Is the war in Gaza making Israel more secure?
48:10 US involvement in the war: justified?
52:45 Questions from journalists
1:07:40 Eylon closing statement
1:10:47 Mehdi closing statement
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One was fired for being a beacon of truth. One was fired for being a bad liar. Pick your victor.
If I could like your comment more than once I would . That is how strongly I agree with it. Mehdi, tried to debate Eylon, but Eylon was only interested in telling lies that have been debunked.
@@DrumguyCiv eylon wants his job back. Mehdi moves forth with principles and honor. It's clear.
@@hellokintu Eylon is only good at drowning out a voice trying to speak truth, but only because he has no truth to add to a civil conversation.
This 👍👍👍💯💯💯🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸
Which is which?
“If you want to convince a people that terrorism is a dead end, then stop inflicting terror upon them.” Bravo, Mehdi.
You mean the well known Islamic extremist apologist.
Only terrorists call self-defense terrorism.
@leathan7
All you need to ask Palezztinians are:
since when and who their king in history ruled the land?
When and what the Palezz king’s name?
@@2589003 well ask golda meir if she had a palestinian passport
@@2589003Stop talking bollocks! Unless you can get GOD himself to come down from heaven to back up your argument, do yourself a favour and STFU!
They are not your Neighbors, They are the PEOPLE YOU OCCUPY' That's enough for me.
Wouldn't be occupied if Gaza wasn't a terrorist hotbed.
exactly
otherwise israel would respect gaza's exclusive economic zone, leading to gaza's offshore gas reserves
I attended in person. That was brilliant!
If I thought my neighbors were bad people, I wouldn’t be shooting their kids.
When did arabs occupied Judea?
“If you want to convince a people that terrorism is a dead end, then stop inflicting terror upon them.”
Never saw a man beat up another man using only words. Mehdi on fire!
Flawless.
He actually beat up 2 men...that dude at the end regretted asking the question
@@7bling7yep, that last guy was burnt
Truly..
Medhi , Brilliant journalist, Englishman to the core , took Levy to the cleaners, shame he’s an Arsenal fan but We can’t have it all!❤️🏴👊🏽
Dude is a former spokesperson for the Israeli government, so he's terrible. But the people cheering for his points in the audience are even worse.
Indoctrination start from childhood. Especially within families, in churches, synagogues and mosques. Some people manage to escape the indoctrination, some don’t!
Exactly!
yes... I will never understand how somebody could ever cheering such a despicable person....
Nope. As James O’Brien says: compassion for the conned, contempt for the conmen. Although it is every adult’s duty to not be ignorant.
@@user-cz1pk8ru2j nope maybe Israel wrote it and told him to say so they own all of your media anyway
Mehdi crushed this fool, hes a nobody. Keep rocking Mehdi!
So you came in here with your opinion made up, and the results were exactly what you expected? Why even bother watching a debate?
@@themaskedman221 You don't need a debate to know Israel is a g3nocidal country.
@@themaskedman221
Mehdi destroyed this fool... that's the opinion of 90% of the planet....
@themaskedman221 how do you know when exactly the opinion expressed was formed? You don't. So here's an actual logical conclusion based on observed facts: you got buthurt cuz your little stooge got wrecked and the whole gnocidal campaign is being consistently exposed so you go around desperately throwing incoherent attacks because you know facts are not on your side.
Prescription: sleep it off and then tomorrow start healing your malignant sociopathy with profesional help. Drk
@@themaskedman221most of us educate ourselves we don't need to make up our minds about a fucking 100 year genocide by Epsteins employers.
This mediator is so biased I can't even stomach this debate. Whenever he thinks Mehdi went beyond the pale with his debate he tells him to stop, or cut off his mic. Whenever Eylon speaks in abstract and doesn't answer the actual questions he does not even try to correct him. Debates should not be one sided and I feel the mediator did a HORRIBLE job at making sure this was fair and balanced. Even with that in mind Mehdi absolutely destroyed this idiot.
Of course. Everytime I see a moderator ask a stupid question “ well what would you think is justified”. It’s such a condescending inhumane question in response to what’s going is so gross.
I was able to get about halfway through before coming here to say exactly this.
When the debate leader said "ahh who cares" when me Hassan was bringing up the New York Times article I had to rewind and look again. That’s the wildest thing I’ve seen in a debate in a looong time.
I’ve identified the exact moment where Eylon lies: it’s when he moves his lips.
😂😂😂
@@Cysmoke lawwwl nice
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Exactly that was what I was seeing😂😂
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No wonder this killing is going on forever. The Israeli society is really sick because the way Eylon doesn't have a tiny remorse for the killing of kids in Palestine makes me sick to my stomach.
did you see the faces he makes when Mehdi mentions kids killed? how...... just brings me to think how could the nazis do what they did
Pallies did oct 7. God is showing them what happens. Jews are gods btw
@@captainbeefheart5815 This is impressively incoherent, please go on
@@captainbeefheart5815you wrote gods. Don't you mean God's people or are you into idolatry?
@@captainbeefheart5815case in point
"Hamas didn't create the conflict, the conflict created Hamas"
-Iman Sadafi Foreign Minister of Jordan
And his spot on
well said 🤝🏻
Exactly!
And who started the conflict dear? some other Muslim that didn't call himself Hamas? what is even your point?
@@theisraelig5162 a bunch of racist eastern europeans who saw the Holocaust as an opportunity to kick brown people out of their homeland, based on a schizophrenic belief that some Pollack is the second coming of Moses
3 observations about this debate.
1. Mr Mehdi is a formidable debater that backs up his points with facts that can be checked.
2. Mr Levy seems full of hatred and blinded by it. Similarly he presents little substance to his arguments.
3. The audience seem like they'd clap and cheer on the opening of a bag of crisps!
Mehdi is Muslim. Of course he sides with Hamas and Hezbollah.
the third point is hilarious. I fiercely think that the organizers tried to balance the attending guests to prevent a total embarrassment for the Israeli sociopath
Genuinely, where does Mr Levy seem full of hatred for innocent people? Or do you think hating Hamas is unjustified?
@@isoutoforbitthe part where he would brush off questions and try to bypass talking about the MANY innocent deaths in Gaza. You should rewatch it carefully.
@@christopherosorio7475 that's only because Mehdi perpetuates lies on almost every chance he gets. Be specific, what answers do you think prove Levy is full of hatred for innocent people?
Eylon talked 75 %, Hasan 25 % and still Eylon has no foot to stand on… this was a dog walk
😂 true
Because Eylon & Co are liars and deceivers. They fabricate misinformation and keep repeating it until they are believed. An example of one of their many such lies: "There was never a Palestine!"
Why do you think he was a spokesman for the IDF?
lol. All hasan could do was quote others or speak about specific bombings he had zero idea about himself.
He got laughed out the room
“They are not your Neighbour; they are the people you occupy” sums it up
You mean the Palestinians that have no history and never had any justification to be in the land of Israel ? Than I agree 👏🏻
Israel left Gaza in 2005
The Israelites were out of Gaza before Oct. 7th, 2023, so there were no occupation at all and there is no occupation since there is no civilian Israelites in Gaza except the hostages that Hamas took on October 7th, and the Israely soldiers who are on a mission to rescue the hostages and get out of Gaza.
Israel had already left the Gaza strip in the early 2000'
@@FrankEc1116 no occupation just a blockade no port no airport no one goes out without Israeli permission but no occupation
@@FrankEc1116false
The fact that this requires a debate says it all. A year on, countless dead, mostly children. Unforgivable.
and billions from our taxes used to finance it....
Blame Ha#as for using them as human shields as an excuse to make Israel look bad. Any other country would've done the same.
Mostly children?
Lmao sure, pal.
@@General_Maximus yes mostly children,and favour will be returned back to joos and their pet christians.
@@General_Maximusanother Zionist justifying murdering children.
While you're watching, remember people are dying. That's all.
And mire people are waking up to the reality that we are witnessing
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🗣is cheap
I saw the Palestinian towns in the West Bank, and it felt like looking at a massive prison complex, surveillance cameras everywhere, security gates at every turn. It's truly chilling.
Concentration camps look like that.
Im from Germany, as kids we learn extensively and very detailed about WW2 and Nazi Germany. We visit concentration camps with elementary school.
So its very easy for us to see the shocking similarities.
I would bet my life on; Hitler would absolutely love Zionism and he would absolutely love Israel
It got like that because Palestinians kept using violence against Israelis. You think it got like that for no reason?
@@WorldCrucified The Israeli occupation forces in the West Bank are internationally deemed illegal, as are the numerous Israeli settlements throughout the region. It's crucial to return to the borders established by the United Nations when Israel was granted its land. Settlers, as part of the Israeli occupation forces, are complicit in crimes committed in the name of Israel. How long can this occupation continue? Ultimately, it will come to an end, as no one can oppress another indefinitely. Your justification for this situation is truly horrific.
@@NMandarina he wouldn't like it being a Jewish only state tho
@@LeoPard-HQ, just to clarify: in 1947, when the United Nations granted the land, it was referred to as historic Palestine, also known as 'stolen land.' Don’t forget the atrocities that followed for the people who occupied that land by you know who.
Its an unfair advantage on Mehdi, he has the truth backing him
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He sure does! … and the majority of the Planet 🔥 💪 😊
I guess facts are antisemitic lol
Superb xpression.
@@mariocisneros3651 lol
Just to be clear, "They're not your neighbours they're the people you OCCUPY." DAMN!!!!
How are they occupied ? They had their own place.
Just like American Indians have their own reservations..
🔥
@@jesse75 Are you seriously that obtuse? Israel has control over everything that goes into Gaza, they turn on and off the water whenever they want, they decide what food will be allowed into Gaza and what won't (for many years Israel kept candy and chocolate out of Gaza just because they could) they control the electricity and heating in Gaza and have cut both on numerous occassions. And of course Israel controls all access in and out of Gaza. Israel is an occupying power and under international law anyone who is under occupation is allowed to fight their occupiers for their freedom. Israel is an Apartheid state. Nelson Mendala said that Gaza was an Apartheid state over 60 years agao, Bishop Tutu said that the Apartheid in Gaza is worse than anything he experienced in South Africa. The only reason that Israel hasn't been held accountable for the war crimes it has and is committing is because when charges against Israel have been brought to the UN the US vetoes those charges. Israel is now a pariah state hated by millions around the world.
@@jesse75 That is NOT a comparision you want to draw man...
@orientalgirl8926are you kidding ?
This debate is enlightening. As a human being, horrified by what's happening in Gaza and what Palestinians have been subjected to for decades, I'm encouraged to see someone as well spoken with structured, factual arguments as Mehdi Hassan. And I'm deeply disturbed by Eylon's unfounded claims and complete lack of empathy for the destruction and the civilian loss. I saw a lot of comments frustrated with the moderator, but I actually think he did a good job. There are few topics that can get more heated than this, and I think he was able to pose good questions and add new layers to what each person was saying.
I'm leaving this comment here because I think it's important that we don't turn these debates into "football matches", that we listen closely and with curiosity so that with the people we're close to we can have informed and constructive discussion with the hope to reach a common ground, finding our shared humanity, pushing political leaders for diplomatic solutions instead of waging war.
"If you want to convince people that terrorism is a dead end, then stop inflicting terrorism on them." 🎤✋✊🇵🇸
H@m@zz & Hezzb0 won’t be convinced terr0rr is dead-end because they personify DEATHHHH
The Arabs declared war on Israel..whatever happens after that they caused themselves 🤷🏻♂️..it’s war
Israel will win.
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Mehdi thinks it, "abhorrent" to "hide tunnels", under residential buildings, but HANG ON, when buildings collapse on top of tunnels THE RUBBLE ADDS TO THE PROTECTION of the tunnels underneath. So T H E
T A R G E T WAS NOT the tunnels.
Who were the targets then ?
'They are not your neighbors, they are people you occupy'
That was gold. Ive screamed that at my sreen so many times this past year.
facts
31:55 look at his body language...looks down, like this is a clip to use for Zionist channels in the future to prove humans are anti sematic
When did arabs occupied Judea?
@@StudyBuddy-jj5pb Arabs occupied Roman Palestine, not any Judea.
@@StudyBuddy-jj5pb is that a serious question? Arabs have a long history of occupation in Judea as well as the Fertile Crescent writ large. Their lines can be traced back several thousand years to that region of the world.
Did Eylon Levy seriously think he could debate Medhi Hasan and not come out of this sounding like a complete idiot?
@@paulcrozier2824 Indeed, he is an idiot… He just proved by accepting this debate🤣
Evidently
@@paulcrozier2824 while watching into the debate that crossed my mind.
Mehdi is just like a question paper out of syllabus for this polish root guy 😅
He looks and talks like an idiot
I genuinely feel sorry for the people clapping at the "arguments" of Eylon Levy. How naive do you have to be to believe any BS he has to say!
You have to be a sociopath
"To convince them terrorism is a dead end, then stop inflicting terrorism on them:" That sums it all.
"The best way to stop terrorism is to stop doing it."
Noam Chomsky
Stop using the term "genocide" against a people who had a real genocide committed against them by the Nazis and an attempted genocide committed against them by Hamas!!!
"Every accusation is a confession".
Did...did that little shit just misappropriate, like they did ALL middle eastern food? 😂
"We invented Humus!"
@@TonyMidyett Impossible to do that if the opposing side is also using terrorism against your people in the name of self defense.
When terrorists attack do they scream “Allah akbar” or “Baruch Hashem”?
Oct 7 is not the start, it's the result of 76 years of occupation, siege and torture in an open air prison.
To be honest saying Mossad had no idea of the attack is a jock. They let it happen to start a war . Very much like 9/11 where 5 Israelis were detained by FBI fir dancing after the attack. Later released and in an interview in Israeli news channel in Hebrew they said they were their to document the attack with video footage.
We, the peoples of the United Nations have spoken via ICJ and UN General Assembly.
Stop genocidiares.
These creatures know it started 76 years old but play dumb. No one is fooled by their BS.
in fact history. the Palestinian stole the Jewish land.😗
@@titikkoma8586- Lol...these European Jews have no right to be on the holy land.
" Gaza could have been a new Singapore"
2 minutes later:
"Well, we weren't gonna let them build an international airport"
@@nas8318 with concrete control not sure what Singapore they were supposed to make
😂😂😂
Israel’s not shiht compared to Dubai or Singapore either lol
Nobody makes deluded excuses like a ☪️
Another gem when he said: Hamas denied what they did on 7 October and said they'll do it again"
What a moron.
moderator was super bias towards eylon levy letting him interrupt all the time while immediately stopping mehdi anytime he tries to respond. get someone else next time
Eylon did 2/3s of the interpreting, but Mehdi was the only one he threatened with a mute button. Definitely biased and showing it.
Exactly, the jews funded this, and boy did they get their moneys worth, whips chains and all. LOL
Moderator did say he was in Israel, so we can imagine which way he leans
Mehdi didn't "Fry" him...he absolutely ROASTED him!
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Hahaha 🤣
"Atomized" one could argue.....
No Abdool that's your stupid abdool opinion.
Yeah just like he used to roast us infidels before he became popular.
My 17 yr old son and I watched this together and I told him of my wish for him to be well read and have well reasoned confidence that comes only from having deep knowledge. And stand with and for the oppressed!
I wish for my son to be like Mehdi. Thank you kind sir!
My son is 11 and my wish is xerox copy of your wish and I pray that we can see that in our lifetime.
The only way your children will ever be like mehdi is if you are like mehdi. So if you aren't yet then begin now to mirror this aspect of mehdi's behaviour.
I also shared this with my 25 year old son.
Facts are important
After i watched the debate i told my wife i hope our son to be like mehdi well-read and smart and quick to answer person
I highly recommend you suggest they read The Lemon Tree by Sandy Tolan.
Eylon Levy is a sociopath. He tries to make a logical point, but his lack of empathy and humanity shouts to be smacked down.
to be a sociopath u have to be human but im not so sure about the fact that he is. its like a bot or i dont know what but even sociopathy can explain this. it’s overwhelming and terrifying…. i wish we could explain this by sociopathic behavior but at this point we cant.
They made Elon professional story teller.... honestly fact check me he reads horror stories to jewish children I've seen propaganda videos of him 😂
The moderator was definitely partial to the sociopath.
@@Musa786-lx2ui what did Eylon lie about?
@@angelicaterry3367 really? Give an example and a timestamp so we can see what you mean. Mehdi was constantly badgering and interrupting Eylon. Mehdi also lied about the ICJ and "plausible geno cide" findings at 50:00
Oh my goddd ! I usually never comment but MEHDI HASAN! You owned this debate ! Hats off to you for your honesty and standing up for what’s right always 👏 👏 👏
"You wanna convince the people of Gaza that terrorism is a dead end then stop inflicting terrorism on them" 👍
With that sentence alone, along with Eylon's pitifull "Every accusation is a confession, eh Mehdi?", Mehdi won the debate, by summing up the world's feelings towards Israel.
So deep
Best line of the debate!
Those two groups will always be at war.
"I'm sorry, You're a sociopath."
Thank you, Mehdi. You are amazing.
It is shameful for Eylon to call for the release of only Israeli hostages while ignoring the innocent Palestinian children who are held and tortured in Israeli prisons.
Notice how he immediately called them terrorists. Mehdi was talking about Palestinian children and Eylon's retort is they are terrorists.
If we went into this deeper, the Israeli hostages don't mean anything to Israeli government. The dissonance Israelis have to tell themselves must be exhausting
Israel has normalized the detention of Palestinians under military law. The people of Israel don’t know and don’t care that their government does this. Israelis see Palestinians as sub-human.
That people have no shame !
Elon, has zero shame.
Why was Eylon's mic not muted?? They were quick to mute Mehdi.
That's how the world works
"The idf does not owe you any answers" during a debate....stupidity at its peak
It’s sad and pathetic imagine if there’s any other Al Dos family remaining hearing what a Elon said As an official spokesperson.
Goes to show if Mehdi didn’t bring it up they wouldn’t off given an answer which they haven’t still but shows you now they not bother .
Sad times
@@LayLoow Facts.
"They’re not your neighbors, they’re the people you occupy"
Best line in the whole debate
No. Best line is "dont you lecture me about hostages when your government has killed more hostages more than it has rescued." Hats off to Mehdi on that.
@@itsvimajesta that was a very good one, agree 👍
@@abdeljaliljouhrani9429 neighbours don’t blow ppl up tho
@@abdeljaliljouhrani9429 maybe stop the terrorism LMAOOO
@@abdeljaliljouhrani9429 stop the bomibgs
The victim card has expired.
and it couldn't have happened without them 😂
BOOM!!!!!!
"Muh October 7th! Derp! Derp!"
Not only expired, but worn so thin even Stevie Wonder can see through it!
Same goes for arabs and africans as well
The fact that there exists a person who debates in favor of genocide is mind boggling.
If Israel had the power to shut off electricity and water to Gaza (as they did at the start of this campaign), I think it’s safe to say that the occupation didn’t end in 2005.
Indeed I was hoping Mehdi would bring uP^ the Hannibal Directive.
Israel will win
Maybe not occupied, but certainly under total blockade. Not sure there is a practical difference, even if there is a legal distinction. Israel's stance is that it withdrew from Gaza, so was no longer an occupying force, but refuses to acknowledge an apartheid state enforced by its own blockade.
It didn't. That's why that region is still called the occupied territory.
The problem with all these debates is that it propagates disinformation.
1. Israel provided only a small fraction over water and power. It’s not unreasonable to deny this to your enemy post Oct 7.
2. There was a partial blockade on Israel’s side, which is not too unreasonable given Hamas’ charter.
3. Egypt has also maintained a blockade on their border.
4. It is still a partial occupation due to denial of air and limitation of sea access to Gaza.
5. This partial occupation isn’t entirely unreasonable given Hamas’ constant and continued terrorism.
6. There needs to be a resolution to the occupation.
The most disturbing thing about this, to my mind, is not the debate, Mahdi spoke clearly, with facts, numbers and specifics. My worry was with the audience who continually cheered and applauded the debunked and and demonstrably untrue lies that Eylon continued to repeat, long after they have been shown to be not true.
The audience response was scary, how so many people can believe the lies and the gaslighting is genuinely terrifying
Hasan lies and misquotes. Watch his MUNK debate against Douglas Murray and see how his so-called facts were dissected. He is a fraud.
I think you didn't believe what I said and it may not apply to this debate but Israel has an organization to change public opinion in America about Israel and one of their methods in any debate between a Palestinian supporter and an Israeli supporter is to involve an audience that supports Israel and their goal in that is not only to applaud what the Israeli supporter says but to boycott and frustrate everything the Palestinian supporter says
Imagine this like what if they don’t care what’s coming out of the israeli spokesperson and he can say let’s kill kids .
Zionist audience bro, they have organizations that give them extra tickets at these events to even out the playing field, and to make it seem like a competition when we all know that 95% of people are against Israel.
zionists are sneaky, they know they are outnumbered so they try to control the top sources of information, Israel has special teams working to edit wikipedia, they have the ADL and almost all mainstream media in the west, and of course large big donor corporations to the political class in the United states, all of this is closely connected.
My thought as well. Clapping for Levy is applauding (suspected) war criminals.
"Hamas shouldn't have started this war."
Before oct 7th, 200 Palestinians were killed by Israeli bullets in 2023... What was that?
Did they trip and fall onto israeli bullets while experiencing the wonderful peace between Israel and Palestine?
I think so.
Israel will win.
Did these Palestinians provoke the violence? What exactly happened before they were shot. Of course, you don't provide any of the context. This is how such claims are always reported.
@@fadoop The root causes go back to before any living Palestinian was born. They inherited this situation, and suffer collective punishment for it nonstop.
@@fadoopyeah for seventy plus years they've been giving reason for what's happening to them
When Theodore Herzl and others were running around in the west more than a century ago before any Jewish christian or Muslim palestinian ever even knew what a z I o was planning this Colonial project the palestinians were obviously doing something that got them into the position they find themselves today🙄
"They are not your Neighbors, They are the PEOPLE YOU OCCUPY'!
Both were fired.
One for being a bad liar and one for exposing a liar.
This😂
Except Medhi was not fired He quit and started his own channel.
Msnbc didn’t successfully restricted hasan.
Msnbc UNLEASHED Hasan.
I'm glad he Quit.
@@kract76 why he created his own outlet. Doesn’t care about the sensors of us controlled media
@AsmaaDiis Edit: Mehdi Wasn't fired, he quiet, I wish you know the meaning of both terms
Palestinian children imprisoned and tortured for years for throwing stones at Israeli soldiers. Is that justified? Should they be released? Eylon refused to answer. Medhi Hassan legend!
Mehdi literally said Palestinian children but all Eylon hears is terrorist. Says everything you need to know about how he sees Palestinians.
The hypocrisy is so loud and real, eylon just drops negative adjectives and words hoping it lands. No facts, emotional everything he said I could rebuttal as a layperson.
Who allowed them to throw those stones? Their parents? If a kid is throwing a stone in any country and killing a person, does he goes to jail or not? Stop diminishing anything.
@@akmal94ibrahim how he sees or how they see??
@@notnotnownow9622
Who did the stones kill?
It's crazy that we are debating Israeli actions of genocide are ok or not
Because USA government is in on the genocide
It is amazing that Eylon started with 1200 Israeli deaths as a "genocide" then defends over 40,000 Palestinian deaths as justified. Even more so when the "moderator" replies to Mehdi that "you say sniping children in the head is a war crime". What is it then if not a war crime?
We are in that level of Humanity to discuss this if it's a crime or not!
We are in that level of humanity to discuss if it's a genocide or not!
@@saadkah if you need to discuss that shooting children in the head is a war crime or not. When it comes to Israel doing it then you have a racist problem. Apparently it was a war crime when sada musina gassed his own people but if Israel did the same thing we will be discussing it. Double standards
Eylon's argument can be countered by a very simple logical answer: No, Eylon, bombing civilians in pursuit of enemy militant targets is not justified by any means, if it was justified then I guess the police can blow a school up because there's a school shooter inside with hostages...You see how absurd his argument sounds? He's just repeating what Netanyahu and his regime say, even though there are many Israeli officials, not Palestinian but Israeli officials, saying this bombing campaign is reckless and holds no preservation to any civilian lives INCLUDNG the hostages themselves, who testified that they were more scared of Israel's reckless invasion, their own country by the way, than they were scared of their captors...
moraly u are right but the law says something different. Civilians shall be protected thats for sure but the apperance of high value military target can justifiy a military strike against it even if civillians are there. Thats why military should always try to stay away from civilians. To make is short.. tearing down a house because there might be one or two enemy soldiers is wrong. Tearing down a house because there is a military commander, ammuntion strorage, or heavy weaponry like missles etc than yes it is justified because under the law. Additionaly the stuff should not have been there in the fist place. Thats exactly what using civilians as shields mean.
Have to agree wholeheartedly with Mehdi when he says. "why is this even a debate 40,000 deaths later..." this is way beyond a civil debate. There is nothing "civil" about the fascist, apartheid state of Israel.
IsraelHELL, monsrer state, Hell on Earth, I feel sorry for Palestinians people, that should stop, enough is enough!
Where did he get the 40k number? Hmm?
@@ahhmm5381 Right? Because it's been projected to be much, much, higher.
@@ahhmm5381 The Lamcet has estimated over 186,000 dead. So take your “hmmm” and stick it where the sun doesn’t shine.
@@mther9187one of those things that the numbers released but israel are extremely low but still way too high and unacceptable
“They are not your neighbours, they are people you occupy” - 🔥 🔥 🔥
“If you were born in New York, and your birth has to be registered with a foreign country, would you say you are occupied or not occupied?” Wow what a great answer
Maybe if the Hamas regime was actually capable of governing rather than just preparing for war, they could do things like registering births and admistering vaccines themselves. It's not the Israelis' fault that the regime in the Gaza strip was unable to govern.
@@j.x.x.r3645 you just don’t get it, do you? Hamas is a terrorist organization because they have committed war crimes, the whole world knows that but the other problem is that Israel is occupying this land which under international law is illegal, don’t understand illegal. Israel just give Palestinians their freedom and no one will blame you for anything
@@j.x.x.r3645do you know Israel has control over everything going in and out of Gaza as well as Water ,Electricity and everything thing of basic live necessities.
Israel occupied Palestinian land over 75 years and killed tens of thousands of them even before Hamas was Founded 35 years ago.
That's a weak line
@@j.x.x.r3645 You're a very sad person. I hope you learn how to love instead of hate one day.
Mehdi excels in the debate format. This is why people are afraid to debate him unless they lack any self awareness
Mehdi, like any "smart debater," knows very well which tree to climb... 😊
@@glynemartinWhat does that mean?
Well, he did go to Oxford. He was most likely a part of the Debate club which is famous.
@@bravoalley228Hasan has a much more agressive style than what is usually used in such clubs (since they are based on devils advocacy rather than real belief)
Alot of them end up like the biased moderator "you need to be polite, dont call the liar a liar thats rude"
This is obviously silly. Debate of reason, if someone is unreasonable that needs to be calle to attention
All this to say Hasan is near the best the format offers
@@boserboser6870wtf are you yapping about? Mahdi has more knowledge, education, experience and convictions.
Even I as a non Muslim support him not due to his “ Aggressive” way of talking but because he is truthful and does his homework.
Eylon picked the wrong person to debate with. He got his ass handed to him.
Usually Zionists don't debate they prefer straight lies and spin as they cannot be directly challenged
You seem so desperate lol
@@pk21734 aww bless you read my comment and it triggered your Zionist black heart.
@@pk21734 speaking the truth makes someone desperate? sorry I forgot you zionists are allergic to truth
174 people liked his comment.... i dunno but maybe it's you who's the desperate one @vk45
It’s actually crazy that Medhi continually cites sources for the points he’s making whereas Eylon barely does . From a neutral perspective alone, this shows who you should trust more.
It’s just too good. Thank you mehdi, we appreciate your work!!
This will go as one of Mehdi's best debates. Absolute grilling
Yes.
@@TBD3.0have down he killing Murray Douglas too another record
Dude Mehdi literally got destroyed wth
@@pk21734How exactly did he get destroyed?
there was so much more to say too
"Take the worst things about Hamas, multiply it by 1,000 and it still will not meet the Israeli repression and killing of Palestinians" ~ Gabor Maté, Child of Holocaust survivors and a great Jewish man.
So what's the worst thing hamas did?
@@WL1264 Occupation is the worst ever
I live in West Bank
No Hamas here
But we are being bombed and killed daily
No excused for occupation
If your saying its 7th october then thats 1.2m deaths
Oct 7th @@WL1264
They're not your neighbours, they're people you occupied
Straight to the heart😊
Yes. One amongst multiple highly clarifying one line zingers.
Easily debunked..Israel’s land for centuries..facts proving this is EASILY found
Israel will win.
Yep 👍
Maybe Palestinians should have accepted one of the many land for peace deals Israel has offered...
All 8 of those eylon supporters tried to make as much noise as they could but didnt work😂
🤣🤣
"We are a nation of liars" - Israeli Ambassador to the UN.
he actually tried to say "lions"
but he got confused in his mind and mumbled his words...its ok though, as the world knew what he really meant, "liars"
When did he say that?
@@sunshineseaandvitamind8620 a few weeks ago at the UN
😂😂😂
CIA also admitted to lying.
Perfect demonstration of Mehdi on how to win every argument. A real master class stating facts. Period
Israel will win
It takes a lot less energy to stay truthful than to become a liar, he won the argument because he stated facts while the other drifted off course several times to manoeuvre the facts with lies and propaganda but utterly failed! Speak the truth, and it shall set you free.
Quotations upon Quotations upon Quotations... boyyyyyyy he's good... he even pointed out that they went to the same university and studied the same course, perfect example of you can force a horse to the stream , you can't force it to drink... Eloy didn't learn anything good whilst in Uni 😂
Yes he was using techniques from his book from the very first remark. Eylon called him a liar, Mehdi responded saying he has tweets still up with untrue statements so why believe what he says? Totally flipped him on his head. Prebuttal, bringing receipts, and justified ad hominem in the same sentence. And that was the beginning of his opening remark...
amazing
Self defense?
You've got no right to defend a land that doesn't even belong to you in the very first place. 😑
Very well said
"There is no such thing as Palestine in history, absolutely not." -- Arab Princeton Professor, Philip Hitti, before the Anglo-American Committee of Inquiry in Jerusalem in 1946.
In 1937, Secretary of the Arab Higher Committee to the British Peel Commission, Awni Abd al-Hadi stated: “There is no such country as Palestine. ‘Palestine’ is a term the Zionists invented.”
"We [Palestinians] were never an independent state in history, we were part of an Arab state and an Islamic state.” -- Palestinian Hamas Foreign Minister Mahmoud Zahhar (quoted in The Economist, February 2, 2008)
"Never forget this one point: There is no such thing as a Palestinian people, there is no Palestinian entity, there is only Syria. You are an integral part of the Syrian people, Palestine is an integral part of Syria." Syrian President Hafez al-Assad [Addressing the Chairman of the Palestine Liberation Organization Yasser Arafat during a meeting with leaders of the Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO) in 1976]
Zahir Muhsein was a Palestinian leader of the pro-Syria As-Sa'iqa Ba'athist faction of the Palestine Liberation Organization between 1971 and 1979.
In an interview with Trouw Magazine, 31. March 1977 he stated....."The Palestinian people do not exist. The creation of a Palestinian state is only a means for continuing our struggle against the state of Israel for our Arab unity. In reality today there is no difference between Jordanians, Palestinians, Syrians and Lebanese. Yes, the existence of a separate Palestinian identity exists only for tactical reasons. The establishment of a Palestinian state is a new tool to continue the fight against Israel and for Arab unity.....................................
the land of Israel "belong" to us the jews since 1948.
stop speaking like a child, nobody owns a land, Israel is a state. you had your chance to have your palestine, you chose war over and over again.
the people who speaks the violence are the people who understands it.
@@KingForever-zu5jl I'm sorry you're so deeply brainwashed.
@@alexkremer4842 The Jaws??? SHARK OCCUPATION OF ISRAEL/PALESTINE.
Imagine living in a world where the justification of killing tens of thousands of CHILDREN is debated! Mehdi you absolutely smashed it! 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
Remember the 40 beheaded Israeli babies and how everyone was outraged and rightfully so if only the reporting was true? Imagine now actually children killed in the thousands and the same people who were outraged about 40 babies now have nothing to say. What a world we live in.
For real that's what I been thinking all ur . We sit here in the and call the people in the east barbaric yet we in the west will literally have " open debate" about things like ( can we blow up children) .its weird ,and we think that civilized 😂😂 it's like some black mirror, twilight zone shit 😂
I agree with you Hamass should not have started this war. No war, no dead children.
@@horaceball5418 What a truly ignorant comment. I implore you to educate yourself and read a book or two instead of sprouting lazy propaganda...
@@horaceball5418Except Israel has been killing children for decades.
He's still peddling the beheaded and mutilated baby lies!? What a grifter.
I think he genuinely believes it... I think in his mind no amount of lack of evidence will convince him it didn't happen
But he NEEDS to and nneds us to believe it to allow themselves to do this
How are you gonna justify a genocide if you don’t have these lies to fall back on. It’s a argument survival mechanism.
He knows it’s not true but there are still uneducated people that don’t know that these lies have been debunked
It's called delusion. Normally people see a therapist about it.
When you have idjits willing to believe lies, liars are gonna try to exploit it.
Mehdi looking like a legend, may Allah protect this man.
Amin 🙏❤
mehedi is exposing himself as a terrorist supporter , mehndi will be arrested soon
Aameen
Aameeeeeeeeeeeeeen
@@JLOGIAC
I’m pretty sure Elon is here wearing a diaper , just in case.
Shame on those who are cheering the joker Levy!
Smaller numbers. And getting smaller everyday.
@@ChrisAlbertH47- True
shame on you
@@eduardghiur8069do your parents know you're gay?
@@djhowell5273 do yours?🤣🤣🤣
This was not a debate. This was a cooking show. Eylon was skinned, deboned, beer-battered and deep-fried my Mehdi.
@@anjanmani4038 lol...funny but true!
And filleted
Debate with Zions? Is the easiest debate of all time, you only try to educate them to not be so backward.
Of corz whatvdobubexpect audience 100% activitist paleatine😂
@@danilomangisel3394shut up bot
Mehdi should be nominated for the Nobel peace prize when this horrible time is all said and done.
He’ll have you vote for Kamala
Hear hear.
@@michaelflandez4510 no he would have you vote Stein with all the other people with half a brain!
If I were important enough and Norwegian enough, I’d be pulling for the Gaza journalists who go out every day and night to inform us about what’s going on in the massive black hole of censorship that is occupied Palestine knowing they or someone they love might have a week, day or hour left to live. May they live to see a single unified Palestine for all its people, Muslim, Christian, Jew or none of the above, with equal rights and security for all from the river to the sea. 🌊 May they live to see the architects of their misery on trial in The Hague. ✊🏼🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸🍉🍉🍉
why exactly should he be nominated for the peace prize? Yes, he is debating pro zionists and provides great arguments against what is happening in the Middle East.. But that is not enough. If he helped that there would be peace, then I would concede. Also I don't think the Nobel peace prize should be lauded much.. It has become tarnished.
levy cannot even properly lie😂
thank you Mehdi for being a voice for Gaza
Palestine
@@genevieve4418 yes, you are right
Which is why it is so mind blowing that he is supporting Harris. Apparently he is the proverbial “vote blue no matter who”, even if that “who” is an accomplice in genocide.
Mehdi Hassan, the worst nightmare for any Zionist 🙏🙏🙏
Yes, God bless Mehdi.
😂😂😂 no he didn't abdool not even close but if it makes you happy by your wild imagination of mehdi hassan wind this debate then it's ok abdool 😂😂😂 because this is only your little happiness since Israel Has been smacking muslim ummmma day in day out 😂😂😂😂
He is just a joke. Liar and demagogue
Mehdi, the dude is roasting them one by one.
Absolutely his brilliant indeed
Even Satan is confused when Eylon speaks
You mean devil!!!
When 15 r 4 h311 and
Z 1 0 speak you mean
Not satanyahu
😂😂😂😂
😂😂😂😂
Having listened to this debate, heard the applause and then read through many of the comments, it is astoundingly clear that the massive majority of people support Medhi's viewpoint. I have personally spoken with many people on the Israeli/Gaza conflict and the overriding majority opposes Israel's actions. My point is that with so many British and American people condemning Israeli action then why do the governments of both support Israel?
Is the purpose of our elected Government to represent the will of the people or is to ignore the people, treat us as inferiors and then to perpetrate their own self serving agenda?
My god, Mehdi handed this dude his ass. He literally destroyed him on every point.
not really though. I mean, he had great rhetoric but he just didn't have the facts or truth on his side
@@j.x.x.r3645Are you deaf? Hassan even gave you the courtesy of citing sources WITHIN his monologue for idiots like you, yet still your selective hearing chooses to ignore it. There’s a reason the majority of the world supports Palestine.
@j.x.x.r3645 give it a rest will you, you sound delusional 😂😂😂
@@Csense-se5ke you disagree that Mehdi Hasan's rhetoric was quite effective, to an audience member who doesn't know better?
@@j.x.x.r3645🤡🤡
The New York Post reporter smug face was wiped out by Mehdi
Did you see how he threw his papers into the air after that? XD zio who couldn't take a NO
I bet he regretted ever asking the question made him look like a complete hypocritical idiot!!
The amount of applause for levy is disturbing.
I thought that too , but the ones for Mehdi were louder.
Pretty convinced Shitlon brought cheerleaders with him
People who harbour pd files will applaud anything
that's because his points were valid. some people still have some braincells left to not support Hamas's lawyer called Mehdi
They are Americans.
Hitler had cheerleaders too. Hell, Jeffrey Dahmer has a following
Thanks
I watched this last night live and Mehdi smoked this clown! Mehdi isn’t only morally correct, he’s just the GOAT !
Is supporting terrorists moral?
@@musiitwajuliouswho you calling a terrorist? The ones doing the genocide?
The fact that he believes in a god called allah who invented terrorism, that alone makes him immoral.
Stop being fooled by words.
You want to hurt others and act as if your the victims.
That habit should stop.
Say no to Terrorism.
Every life matters .
Even Israelites deserve to live
@@penablerThe ones who started the latest terror on 7th October.
Mehdi doesn't even believe what hes saying
Baked, fried, roasted, steamed, fully cooked and eaten and left zero crumbs 😂
Masterclass by Mehdi.
Best description EVER 👍👍👍
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I don't think eating that is good for you
@@Hector0 it waaas soooooo yummmy
@@Push_your_limit6 a bit salty 🧂
Eylon, the North London secondhand car dealer who was sacked for telling lies.
He was sacked for not lying well enough.
That's uncalled for and disrespectful. The dealers aren't apologists for genocide
Sacked for getting caught.
Say something meaningful, I dare you. You've got nothing but white supremacy. You are bankrupt.
Izraeli Alfalfa with dual citizenship
The victims became the victimizers tenfold. Hasan, your words on Palestine’s suffering moved me-I’m joining every human rights group I can from Texas.
The way Mehd masterfully brought up the tragedy of the al doce family over and over again in key moments and mentioned it in the closing speech was absolutely brilliant. It demonstrated that Elyon had many occasions to address this point, but refused.
Needless to say, Mr. Hassan clearly squashed his opponent & won the debate. Thank you Mr. Hassan ❤
Eylon can't and won't condemn the killing of innocent Palestinian kids. Debate's already over. He lost.
Zionests believe that their lifes matter more than anyone else
Nor will he state that he wants to free Palestinian kids detained in prison
The AUDIENCE SAID IT ALL FOR MEHDI 🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸🥳🥳🥳🥳🥳👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Mehdi Hassan is the perfect voice against the hypocrisy in the West. Well fucking done, Mehdi.
You have no Brain according to your logic
Most of the West does not support Israel. If you remove the US and Germany from the equation Israel you don't have much.
@wackyval6898 why does religion have something to do with the debate?🤔
@wackyval6898what’s wrong with him being religious? What does that mean? That he’s a Muslim brilliant mind articulate genius man? I am proud that he’s a Muslim, he’s showing us Muslim youth what we can achieve. Mehdi Hasan can finish any person you think of to debate he would cook them no wonder NBC fired him, he made all the terrorist Israelis government who comes up on his show he asked and pressed the right questions and they cried they fired him sowed their hypocrisy like always
Mehdi is normalizing genocidaires for his own gain and Palestinians hate him…a lot.
Easy win by Mahdi Hasan. How can anyone siding with genocide and ignoring the 75 years of oppression and occupation on Gaza.
So he's won because he agrees with your stupidity? 75 years? Egypt controlled Gaza up until 1967, even with such simple sentences, you still reveal stupidity 🤣🤣
Because those that are cheering on oppression and occupation of an indigenous people to the Holy Land of Palestine, are in fact racist colonial minded sociopaths, like Mehdi pointed out. They are not human, share empathy or even have a shred of decency or humanity left in them to begin with. The Palestinians are the rightful owners to that land, and they deserved, freedom, dignity and end the horrific, barbaric occupation of THEIR ancestral land, where DNA proves, they have connection to that land and the European illegal, racist settlers, DON’T.
Israel has historical roots tracing back to the time of Abraham. Here are some historical facts:
Abrahamic Tradition: Abraham is considered a patriarch in Judaism, Christianity, and Islam. He is associated with the land of Canaan, which encompasses parts of modern-day Israel.
Ancient Israel: The Kingdom of Israel existed around 1000 BCE, with significant historical figures like King David and Solomon.
Now, regarding Mehdi Hasan: He is an eloquent speaker partly due to his education and experiences in Western institutions, which have shaped his perspectives. His pride in being a Muslim in the UK or US reflects the complex identity many hold in multicultural societies.
If one is concerned about the plight of Palestinians or other Muslim refugees, it could be argued that inviting them to wealthy countries like Qatar or Saudi Arabia would be a more tangible solution to their struggles.
@@theisraelig5162 it's 1948.. not 1967, no one will think you're a mute if you don't speak.
Look up the word Genocide for starters. Secondly Israel handed over Gaza in 2005 and they chose to elect Hamas to govern them, a terrorist organization.
This is the worst moderator. He's so invested in civility, as though we should be civil about the deaths of 40 000 civilians.
He is so biased
Shit moderator
Well said.
Moderator's who try way to hard to be civil and "unbiased" almost always end up embarrassing themselves. This was a classic example lmao
Typical centrist. More interested in tone policing than opposing genocide.
Mehdi destroyed this guy
Being an illegal occupation Israel no right to defence , Palestinians have right of resistance.
What nonsense.
@amoy3508 Based on what?
@@amoy3508you are a nonsense. You are basically saying occupiers have right to defend their supremacy and to you are saying they have right to steal and kill. Just like Yacob did and said “if I don’t steal it someone else will”
@@amoy3508international law is nonsense to you?
@@BenAdam1937 they actually do in some cases unless you are telling us that the allies had no right to defense while they occupied the axis?
That was really difficult to listen to: I felt listening to Eylon Levy would have been like listening to Joseph Goebbels argue how soft and cuddly the Nazis were.
Goebbels was more convincing.
I felt the same as you. I was appalled that this Eylon guy really came across as a psychopath. His words made me feel really sick and had my hairs standing on end 😮😮
The nazis wanted to annihilate jews. This is also hamas charter and goal. Thisnis alsonwhat you vhant in your peotests. You tgink we didnt notice? Yall bots/ islamists have no shame! At all!
What's truly scary is the amount of sociopaths in the crowd cheering/clapping for ANYTHING Eylon says speaks volumes about what kind of individuals are out there
I think they were always applauding mehdis entrance into the chat but looks like they're applauding end of elon
medhi da clwon
my guy ur a socio path LOL look at ur face
The Zionist cult turned up to support one of their demons.
I think they were paid, isnhell won't leave such a debate without a touch of clearing their image as the right
Israeli guy had no clue how to answer Mehdi’s questions
That thunderous round of applause for Mehdi Hasan's introduction was wholesome 😊
I loved it😊❤❤❤❤🎉🎉👏👏👏
It showed how many Abduls there were in the public.
@@דניאלהמלה I see that you don't need to hide your racism. Wow
@@דניאלהמלהIndian detected , opinion rejected.
I replayed it 4 times
Levy is such a cry baby, play the victim card. I surprised he didn't evoke the holocaust as an excuse.
Yes, he certainly is a crybaby.
Absolutely, as if it was the Palestinians responsible for that, not the Na-zzzs 😅
He did indirectly by conflating Jews with Israelis.
Israel will win.
he needs to have some cheese to go with his whine
Mehdi Hasan has done more for Palestine than all the Arab countries combined. A true gem for the Muslim world
What has he done ?
I support the people of palistinian
But come on this guy like the other Egyptian/ American comic makes zero difference
Do you think Israel or Palistine give a sh1t what any of these guy say ?
medhi da bozo
@@dave2408 he’s a clown
@@dave2408 Mehdi is a clown that’s what he did
@@SgtHawk13 yes self important little man and an opportunist
MEDIATORS ARE SUPPOSED TO BE IMPARTIAL.
Mehdi absolutely ruined this fool. Left him speechless so many times. A legend !
Mehdi, your professionalism, your honesty, your integrity proves their is humanity left on this earth