My first video on the channel. Please like if you enjoed it. All comments are wellcome. Please subscribe, I want to make more videos and that motivates me the most. It is free and really helps. Video sounds a lot better at 1.25 - 1.5 speed. Try it! ASUS responded regarding the Command Rate issue. It is a problem in the CPU memory controller algorithm and must be fixed in cooperation with Intel. The option to change command rate in bios will be removed in future bios version until a fix is made with Intel. shp.pub/6s5cq1 - DDR5 Freezemod radiators
I really wanted to see the performance of Intel's Threadripper competitor and then this video drops in my recommended. Thanks! Your English was great, don't worry about it. Subscribed for more. :)
In summer 2023 I built an Intel Xeon W7-2495X 24-Core, ASUS W790 ACE, 512GB DDR5-4800 ECC RDIMM, ASUS ROG STRIX RTX-3090 24GB. Platinum Power Supply, two 4TB SN850X NVME drives, etc. The cost was about $12000 CAD or $8000 USD. Awesome system other than ASUS motherboard and BIOS issues. I use it for TerreSculptor and Unreal Engine 5 work.
My futur plateform, upgrading form a 10920k @4.6ghz. Very nice video. It would be cool if you could make a small update video, with the new bios (if it change some things), and maybe add some handbrake encoding with x265/avx512 support ? For the record, from the manual, you "only" need 1*24 pin + 2atx12/eps12 connectors. The 2 others atx12 connectors (and the 2nd 24 pins) are for a second PSU.
Bruh... I got the same base platform. Same motherboard, CPU and memory... Also, 10:45 the motherboard refuses to post if you only plug one EPS power connector in it. You need to use 2 connectors.
The thing though, the highest clock speed is 4.8ghz. Remember Netburst when Intel wanted to hit 10ghz, whatever happened to that and making higher clock speeds?
Thank you for this video. I've seen others but your presentation is FAR better. I am curious if you lock the CPU at frequency (I locked my 5960X at 4.22GHZ on all cores) if you will get a significant performance uplift in games... I did with my Haswell-E processor. I appreciate your content and look forward to your future videos. This is the first video I have seen of yours and gave you a subscribe!
If Sapphire Rapids had come out 2 years ago like it was supposed to it would be getting a lot more attention I think. While it still has it's place both the workstation and server offerings are kind of underwhelming compared to what AMD has out at the moment. That said if you are the DIY type W790 doesn't really have competition as far as HEDT goes at the moment so I guess it evens out in the end. Kind of contemplating upgrading my home workstation simply for the extra PCIE slots now that ECC DDR5 is more readily available. Great overview, would love to see more videos in the future.
@@julianfiacconi709 TR 7000 is supposed to be coming out in about a month and honestly I might care more about PCIE 5 at home in another year or so but right now it's not that big a deal to me.
Yes TR7000 will be interesting. However today, TR does not have DDR5 let alone Pcie 5.0, all of which is relevant with todays m.2 drives. As well the overclocking ability of Sapphire Rapids is truly significant in benchmark results. But yes, I’m waiting too for AMD’s response, and excited for the competition now in the HEDT arena…the consumers will benefit most assuredly.
@@julianfiacconi709 If you need something right now, sure. But a month really isn't long to wait if to see what the competition is going to look like if you don't need something right now and even if you really do you can go Epyc Genoa and get PCIE 5. That said I'd be impressed if I knew anyone who actually needed PCIE 5 right now because it's only available for disks at the moment and since you can do bifurcation with TR boards you can slap in an (relatively) inexpensive 4x m.2 card and raid gen4 cards for the same speed without having to worry about current gen 5 drives which run hot as all heck. The majority of people I know who are interested in HEDT that would also not be buying OEM aren't particularly interested in overclocking or gaming and PCIE 5 is nice but not necessary. They generally want/need more PCIE lanes for GPU's or other PCIE cards and consumer chipsets now a days are severely lacking for this. I understand ymmv and all but since x99 AMD has pretty much owned this market and a fair percentage of people already have TR, repurposed EPYC or older Xeons W so Sapphire Rapids isn't very compelling to a lot of them.
I am looking to move on from X299, considering W790 but yeah I game a lot and the performance difference between the 2455X and (now) 14900k are wide. I wish mainstream included more PCIe slots.
From the gaming benchmarks it looks like you're loosing performance on the Xeon due to the cores not running at their boost clocks. I think there is a Bios setting that runs the CPU at all core boost all the time, if not then windows power plan settings.
Can I game on Xeon rapids Aurora? I really want to buy rendering/simulation powerhouse with few tb ram but I wonder if it would run games or UE5, maybe I need separate pc/laptop for that lol.
I wish Intel would sell 14700K or 14900K with ECC support. I would want to have a fast system with RAM that I can trust. And unbuffered ECC should allow improved overclocking because you can push the RAM more because you can accept random single bit errors without any crashes.
@@ArtyomExplainsEng How about CL setting? ECC would allow reducing that even more than non-ECC RAM if executed well. That said, it seems that nobody is selling ECC RAM with really high quality chips that would allow both low CL settings and high MT/s setting at the same time.
Thank you for a proper assessment of the market. Truth to fact. AMD acting like any large corporation beholden to shareholders. They are in the business of making as much money as the market will bare. 👍
it would be cool to see productivity benchmarks compared to the i7, to give a more context on the performance of those CPUs. -sincerely, average pc hardware enthusiast
My first video on the channel. Please like if you enjoed it. All comments are wellcome.
Please subscribe, I want to make more videos and that motivates me the most. It is free and really helps.
Video sounds a lot better at 1.25 - 1.5 speed. Try it!
ASUS responded regarding the Command Rate issue. It is a problem in the CPU memory controller algorithm and must be fixed in cooperation with Intel. The option to change command rate in bios will be removed in future bios version until a fix is made with Intel.
shp.pub/6s5cq1 - DDR5 Freezemod radiators
English was fine. Solid content; I hope you make more in the future. Thanks.
I really love how you display the core usage of the different CPUs. It makes it clear how different games utilise cores/threads.
For some reason it is not done by everyone.
I really wanted to see the performance of Intel's Threadripper competitor and then this video drops in my recommended. Thanks! Your English was great, don't worry about it. Subscribed for more. :)
what a beast system., more videos pls
In summer 2023 I built an Intel Xeon W7-2495X 24-Core, ASUS W790 ACE, 512GB DDR5-4800 ECC RDIMM, ASUS ROG STRIX RTX-3090 24GB. Platinum Power Supply, two 4TB SN850X NVME drives, etc. The cost was about $12000 CAD or $8000 USD. Awesome system other than ASUS motherboard and BIOS issues. I use it for TerreSculptor and Unreal Engine 5 work.
Pretty neat platform, the PCIe connectivity is crazy on Sapphire Rapids
CPU as long as a RAM stick. 😉 Also subbed. Wishing you all the best for your channel.
Great video! Looking forward to future videos :)
Nice video. I've been interested in this platform but not many outlets covered it. Having he pcie lanes is nice for future I/O and storage upgrades.
My futur plateform, upgrading form a 10920k @4.6ghz. Very nice video. It would be cool if you could make a small update video, with the new bios (if it change some things), and maybe add some handbrake encoding with x265/avx512 support ? For the record, from the manual, you "only" need 1*24 pin + 2atx12/eps12 connectors. The 2 others atx12 connectors (and the 2nd 24 pins) are for a second PSU.
Bruh... I got the same base platform. Same motherboard, CPU and memory...
Also, 10:45 the motherboard refuses to post if you only plug one EPS power connector in it. You need to use 2 connectors.
nice round up .. .tnx
Sucks that it priced itself out of the consumer market
The thing though, the highest clock speed is 4.8ghz. Remember Netburst when Intel wanted to hit 10ghz, whatever happened to that and making higher clock speeds?
It is probably the physics, the silicon itself may be the limitation. And the amount of heat that each core will produce at such frequency.
The rise of low clocked multicore cpu's killed the idea of hyper clocked single core cpu's like the P4
Thank you for this video. I've seen others but your presentation is FAR better.
I am curious if you lock the CPU at frequency (I locked my 5960X at 4.22GHZ on all cores) if you will get a significant performance uplift in games... I did with my Haswell-E processor.
I appreciate your content and look forward to your future videos. This is the first video I have seen of yours and gave you a subscribe!
If Sapphire Rapids had come out 2 years ago like it was supposed to it would be getting a lot more attention I think. While it still has it's place both the workstation and server offerings are kind of underwhelming compared to what AMD has out at the moment. That said if you are the DIY type W790 doesn't really have competition as far as HEDT goes at the moment so I guess it evens out in the end.
Kind of contemplating upgrading my home workstation simply for the extra PCIE slots now that ECC DDR5 is more readily available. Great overview, would love to see more videos in the future.
PCie 5.0
I don’t think AMD has that, think they may still be on 4.0
As well AMD still on DDR 4 memory
Intel did a huge leap with Sapphire Rapids 🤟
@@julianfiacconi709 TR 7000 is supposed to be coming out in about a month and honestly I might care more about PCIE 5 at home in another year or so but right now it's not that big a deal to me.
Yes TR7000 will be interesting. However today, TR does not have DDR5 let alone Pcie 5.0, all of which is relevant with todays m.2 drives. As well the overclocking ability of Sapphire Rapids is truly significant in benchmark results. But yes, I’m waiting too for AMD’s response, and excited for the competition now in the HEDT arena…the consumers will benefit most assuredly.
@@julianfiacconi709 If you need something right now, sure. But a month really isn't long to wait if to see what the competition is going to look like if you don't need something right now and even if you really do you can go Epyc Genoa and get PCIE 5. That said I'd be impressed if I knew anyone who actually needed PCIE 5 right now because it's only available for disks at the moment and since you can do bifurcation with TR boards you can slap in an (relatively) inexpensive 4x m.2 card and raid gen4 cards for the same speed without having to worry about current gen 5 drives which run hot as all heck.
The majority of people I know who are interested in HEDT that would also not be buying OEM aren't particularly interested in overclocking or gaming and PCIE 5 is nice but not necessary. They generally want/need more PCIE lanes for GPU's or other PCIE cards and consumer chipsets now a days are severely lacking for this. I understand ymmv and all but since x99 AMD has pretty much owned this market and a fair percentage of people already have TR, repurposed EPYC or older Xeons W so Sapphire Rapids isn't very compelling to a lot of them.
I am looking to move on from X299, considering W790 but yeah I game a lot and the performance difference between the 2455X and (now) 14900k are wide. I wish mainstream included more PCIe slots.
How does this W790 compare to the new Threadripper 7000?
It will only be released later this month.
Meanwhile AMD is already at 96 cores / 192 threads with 480 MB of cache and above 3.0+ GHz base frequency on all those cores with the 7000 series.
Can you do single thread memory bandwidth test? I.e. using STREAM or likwid-bench?
What about Intel Math Kernel Benchmark?
More competition is good in the HEDT space
From the gaming benchmarks it looks like you're loosing performance on the Xeon due to the cores not running at their boost clocks. I think there is a Bios setting that runs the CPU at all core boost all the time, if not then windows power plan settings.
still miss core-x
one day, i9-15990XE, 24P cores at 3 to 4.8ghz
Thank you for a thorough and wonderful video. My only question is if you think the Asrock board is superior to the Asus, why did you buy the Asus??
When I bought this mobo the platform just arrived, there was nothing else available.
Fantastic video
Can I game on Xeon rapids Aurora? I really want to buy rendering/simulation powerhouse with few tb ram but I wonder if it would run games or UE5, maybe I need separate pc/laptop for that lol.
You can game on any x86 cpu
I didn't know intel was still releasing HEDT cpu's
wow nice !
What is power consumption like?
350 watt when overclocked to 5.1 Ghz all core. 280 at 4.8 Ghz
I wish Intel would sell 14700K or 14900K with ECC support. I would want to have a fast system with RAM that I can trust. And unbuffered ECC should allow improved overclocking because you can push the RAM more because you can accept random single bit errors without any crashes.
You can push ram to 8000 on a board like apex or tachyon x. No need for ecc.
@@ArtyomExplainsEng How about CL setting? ECC would allow reducing that even more than non-ECC RAM if executed well.
That said, it seems that nobody is selling ECC RAM with really high quality chips that would allow both low CL settings and high MT/s setting at the same time.
Thank you for a proper assessment of the market. Truth to fact. AMD acting like any large corporation beholden to shareholders. They are in the business of making as much money as the market will bare. 👍
it would be cool to see productivity benchmarks compared to the i7, to give a more context on the performance of those CPUs. -sincerely, average pc hardware enthusiast
I dispair when I see these bulky air coolers installed in motherboards. Watercooling is the way to go.
360 AIO for 4677 is 200-300 USD, I got this Noctua for 100 USD and it gets the job done. Huge die size allows good air cooling.
next my intel xeon sk: 6666 pin: kkk
that low latency...
You mean after ram overclocking?
@@ArtyomExplainsEng yes, i mean it looks so good ! is it solely from ram oc or uncore oc ?
@@Opteron67 All main, secondary and tertiary timings were tweaked, mesh was overclocked. The best it could get with CR1.
@ i should buy this cpu...
I have the bbigger brother board but with entrt cpu