Thank you so much for these videos. You've helped me realize what I was missing in my posture that prevented me from improving my face. I was (attempting) to mew for 6 years with virtually no results, thinking the fault was my braces, or permanent retainers, or tooth retractions (I've had all of these) that prevented my face from growing like Dr. Mew said it should. At some point I thought the orthodontist just fucked my face so bad I would never be able to get it back to how it should look naturally. I understood that body posture was important but I didn't realize mine was poor. After watching your videos I realized that my posture really was shit. I had (and am still fighting) anterior pelvic tilt, and my neck especially wasn't nearly in the position it should be. I wasn't using the muscles in the neck you need to use to bring your face forward while simultaneously keeping your neck back. This took some effort for me as those neck muscles were weak, but after about a week I was doing it without much thinking required, and as a result tongue posture became easy. I could feel that when swallowing my tongue was touching the top of my mouth significantly farther back than it ever had been. As a result my face genuinely has moved forward and up like I had been trying to achieve so long ago. I know you don't believe mewing actually affects your face, but I think proper posture in conjunction with mewing does (this is just anecdote though lol). At worst it doesn't hurt to mew while achieving good posture, right?
It’s not that I think mewing has no affect on the face. Most people are totally disconnected from their tongue, so any thoughtful engagement of the tongue will produce some amount of change. It’s also desirable for the tongue to go to the roof of the mouth while swallowing, so I have no issue with that. But habitually lifting the tongue is, to me, counter to what the tongue needs to function (outside of swallowing), and so lifting the tongue all the time is a mistake in my view. I’ll be doing an in-depth critical analysis of mewing relatively soon. Thanks for watching the videos and for your comment! But also, please try to refrain from using curse words in the comment section.
@@delsartealexandermasoeroyo9147 You don't have to lift your tongue because it is held on the palate with suction hold. Sometimes I ask my attractive friends even on the Internet - do they keep their tongue on the roof of their mouth? They always answer yes.
@@patriarcha1145 If the tongue is suctioned to the roof of the mouth, it’s still lifted is it not? The tongue must go to the roof of the mouth (lift) while swallowing. Obviously while speaking/singing, the tongue must not be suctioned to the roof of the mouth. Speaking and singing require an open airway. Breathing requires an open airway. Swallowing requires a closed airway and an open esophagus.
@@patriarcha1145 Used the Sternocleidomastoid (SCM) muscles to bring my head forward. This is what puts your head in a position for it to grow forward and up, and allows for the back third of the tongue to hit the roof of the mouth. What I did was (only using my neck and while having proper posture) bring my head as far back as I could, then use the SCM muscles to bring my head forward. I did not stick my neck out like a turkey, just engaged my SCM muscles. If done properly you'lI feel the muscles holding your head forward, and you will probably also notice a v shape running down to the base of your neck, an indication the muscles are being used.
thank you for making a literal series in response to my email! i wanted to ask if the series that you mentioned would actually help us change our facial structure instead of giving an illusion through proper posture and also are you suggesting that we should practically have as minimal lordosis in the back as possible
I hope you are going to make a video in the future talking about dr mew and what do you think he gets right and wrong. This is very interesting, you and Dr. mew opinions are considered uniqe and against the current recommendations (body and oral posture). And more over the fact he is putting alot of importance on body postures, almost as much as oral postur, i will appreciate a detailed video breakdown.
What similarly valuable channels do you follow guys? I look for more pearls like this. I know one top notch about nutrition. Already feeling like winning a lottery haha I have a hunger for more epic sources of knowledge!
This is an example, but not everyone has the exact same problems. If you have an overly long looking neck, then the adjustment you would make will look different. However, the points mentioned in this video will almost certainly still apply. Most people who have a long looking neck are pulling the back of their head back and down and lifting their chin. That might not be the case for you, I can’t see you so I don’t know, but that may be the case. In such a situation you still want to look at what’s happening with the larynx. If your head is pulled back and down, your larynx will likely be protruding forward. Similarly, you may find that the back of the armpit for you is too far forward and could be brought back as shown in these images. While the movement of the head is most visible, as I said in the video, the more nuanced movements of the torso and the larynx are key to making this a successful adjustment.
first thing to do it training neck muscles because longer neck by default means its harder to properly position and control head, as the levar force is bigger than in other people and head weighs more. Also thick neck adds more pleasant look to face and opposite, longer neck seems thinner in proportion to face decreasing pleasant look (but still its cool as it adds some cms to height so no need to feel to back, tallness is even more important). Its funny ow different set or exercises i do in comparison to typical gym folks haha neck, wrists, back, ankles. I still feel like overtraining pull ups and push ups despite making body look better in mirror introduced some muscular disparities that are troublesome now trying to just get the posture right...
Hello mr thanks for the content I have a question about the spin i did the the torso movement but i noticed my spin have an inside carve my back do not look like yours or the other example in videos so do i mess something or my spin will change with time or do you recommend something to do and thanks again for your effort
I don’t know what inside curve means, but I assume you mean your lower back is curved forward. Adjusting the torso should be done before you work too much with the head. The head is supported by the torso, so if the torso is bent, the head will not stay where it should be. If you watch some of the older videos on my channel, I’ve presented the back and up adjustment of the pelvis and the rotation of the ribcage that brings the upper torso forward and up and the lower ribcage back and up many times. You will not fix the head by focusing only on the head, you need to work with the torso.
1:13 i am a bit low IQ so it is difficult for me to understand some of what you are saying. I suffer from *pectus carinatum* aka pigeon chest and I am wondering if all this that you are talking about could help?
I think it would tend to help, but that's a relatively rare condition, so I don't know a ton about it specifically. Generally what I teach on this channel will take the ribcage toward its correct shape.
I've noticed when I do the directions and try to hold their positions after the 3 second count, I seem to always go into a sympathetic state, I know we are trying not to relax as we need these directions engaged, but how can I stay more parasympathetic? I would notice myself sweating a lot especially in warmer days when doing the system. Is it because my muscles aren't used to the stretch causing them to be more engaged, hence it's like a big workout? I'm also guessing the stiffness feel and look is also due to the muscles not used to this engagement?
Think of these as movements. At first many movements will feel like a huge effort, but it should not stay that way. See if you can get the same amount of movement with less effort. You might be surprised. Don't chase a feeling of exertion. The feeling is not the guide because the feeling will change.
@@Matty-H Many adjustments will make you feel "tense" at first, but the feeling is not the guide. The feeling of tenseness will go away, so you can not expect that to be your indication of correctly orchestrated movements. What is tense on day one might feel totally normal on day 30. If you keep chasing a feeling of tenseness, you'll likely end up somewhere you don't want to be.
But that is not a good standing posture, Dr. Mew even talks about it on its videos, how people with receded jaws adopt a forward neck posture to improve their gonial angle.
You should carefully examine the postures. Look at someone with really bad “forward neck” posture and I guarantee you will see their upper sternum tipped back relative to their lower sternum, and you will also see their lower back bent forward. That is not at all what you’ll see in this video. Dr. Mew is wrong about general body posture. He most repeats the conventional wisdom about body posture, and that is as wrong as the conventional wisdom around orthodontics. What I’m presenting is something quite different from the conventional model and quite different from what you’d call forward head posture. I will have another video going a little more in depth on this soon. What Mew calls good posture is really someone who is retracting their head and pushing their belly/lower ribs forward.
I am still in puberty and I want the maxilla to actually grow forward and upward. Why would i want to just move them in those directions in space, limiting their growth?
I think you should interrogate what it means to “grow” forward and up. The Mew’s premise is that if the tongue is up against the roof of the mouth, the maxilla will not come down in space. You’re essentially preventing a movement down of the maxilla by producing a movement upward (applied through force by the tongue). My premise is that the fascia and musculature of the entire head, neck, torso and body support the maxilla and move the maxilla up, which will prevent it from coming down in space. Think about it, if mewing didn’t move the maxilla forward and up, how could it produce what you’re calling growth? The maxilla would remain back and down and you would change nothing. Moving the head forward and up will not limit growth. By moving the head to its correct spot, the fascia and musculature of the head can work properly and apply forces to the maxilla that are desirable. Remember, the entire premise from both sides is that proper posture should prevent depression and recession of the maxilla because the musculature and fascia will apply the appropriate forces to the maxilla. So it’s rather important that the head be where it’s supposed to be in order for the musculature and fascia to work properly.
To be clear, I don’t think most people will be able to make these coordinated movements without first doing some serious work with their torso. This video is just to show an example of what’s possible to do with movements as opposed to the idea of “growth.” If you are going to give it try, you should record yourself from 90 degrees with a webcam. It’s very easy to think you’re doing one thing with your body when in reality you’re doing something else. To make sure you're doing what you think you're doing, you'll want that visual feedback.
@@delsartealexandermasoeroyo9147also I think it's becoming a little difficult for me to breathe recently and I think it's because of my posture. I also have some digestive or related issues could that also cause breathing issues?
@@bullymaguiresdirtsupplier 90 degrees means from the side. You want to see yourself from the side. Yes, breathing and digestive problems are two of the most common issues that occur due to poor posture. Most people are essentially crunching their ribcage and restricting their airway, which will then produce bad habits around sucking air in muscularly through the nose or mouth. The protrusion of the abdomen, among other problems, disrupts digestion.
Yes, but it's difficult to for me to tell you exactly what to do without being able to see you. While there likely is an issue in the jaw, the entire orientation of the head will be important. I would guess you are tipping your head back and down, which will also push the jaw forward. Sustaining any change in the head will also require a change in the torso.
@@delsartealexandermasoeroyo9147i have decent maxilla forward growth. Sharp jaw. No overbite or underbite. But i have bad chin growth/recessed chin. Do you think you know the problem?
Bro check orthodontist and maxilla surgeon, there are Le Fort operations for Class 2 Malloclusions, I've been mewing and it's all BS, grinding for the op now
While the Mews are correct about some things, they’re wrong about others. Most of what they say about overall body posture is completely wrong in my opinion.
By long do you mean front to back? Or top to bottom? Most people do have the distance from the end of their chin to the back of their jaw shortened because of the habitual movements they’re making. Getting out of that requires you to first stabilize the torso and then get the head up and over to go forward and up. There will be some videos looking at some stuff related to the use of the mandible and the configuration of the skull soon.
Thank you so much for these videos. You've helped me realize what I was missing in my posture that prevented me from improving my face. I was (attempting) to mew for 6 years with virtually no results, thinking the fault was my braces, or permanent retainers, or tooth retractions (I've had all of these) that prevented my face from growing like Dr. Mew said it should. At some point I thought the orthodontist just fucked my face so bad I would never be able to get it back to how it should look naturally. I understood that body posture was important but I didn't realize mine was poor.
After watching your videos I realized that my posture really was shit. I had (and am still fighting) anterior pelvic tilt, and my neck especially wasn't nearly in the position it should be. I wasn't using the muscles in the neck you need to use to bring your face forward while simultaneously keeping your neck back. This took some effort for me as those neck muscles were weak, but after about a week I was doing it without much thinking required, and as a result tongue posture became easy. I could feel that when swallowing my tongue was touching the top of my mouth significantly farther back than it ever had been. As a result my face genuinely has moved forward and up like I had been trying to achieve so long ago.
I know you don't believe mewing actually affects your face, but I think proper posture in conjunction with mewing does (this is just anecdote though lol). At worst it doesn't hurt to mew while achieving good posture, right?
How did you achieve this?
It’s not that I think mewing has no affect on the face. Most people are totally disconnected from their tongue, so any thoughtful engagement of the tongue will produce some amount of change. It’s also desirable for the tongue to go to the roof of the mouth while swallowing, so I have no issue with that. But habitually lifting the tongue is, to me, counter to what the tongue needs to function (outside of swallowing), and so lifting the tongue all the time is a mistake in my view. I’ll be doing an in-depth critical analysis of mewing relatively soon.
Thanks for watching the videos and for your comment! But also, please try to refrain from using curse words in the comment section.
@@delsartealexandermasoeroyo9147 You don't have to lift your tongue because it is held on the palate with suction hold. Sometimes I ask my attractive friends even on the Internet - do they keep their tongue on the roof of their mouth? They always answer yes.
@@patriarcha1145 If the tongue is suctioned to the roof of the mouth, it’s still lifted is it not? The tongue must go to the roof of the mouth (lift) while swallowing. Obviously while speaking/singing, the tongue must not be suctioned to the roof of the mouth.
Speaking and singing require an open airway. Breathing requires an open airway. Swallowing requires a closed airway and an open esophagus.
@@patriarcha1145 Used the Sternocleidomastoid (SCM) muscles to bring my head forward. This is what puts your head in a position for it to grow forward and up, and allows for the back third of the tongue to hit the roof of the mouth.
What I did was (only using my neck and while having proper posture) bring my head as far back as I could, then use the SCM muscles to bring my head forward. I did not stick my neck out like a turkey, just engaged my SCM muscles. If done properly you'lI feel the muscles holding your head forward, and you will probably also notice a v shape running down to the base of your neck, an indication the muscles are being used.
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@@eliasdepoot i think its a joke bro…
thank you for making a literal series in response to my email! i wanted to ask if the series that you mentioned would actually help us change our facial structure instead of giving an illusion through proper posture and also are you suggesting that we should practically have as minimal lordosis in the back as possible
I hope you are going to make a video in the future talking about dr mew and what do you think he gets right and wrong.
This is very interesting, you and Dr. mew opinions are considered uniqe and against the current recommendations (body and oral posture).
And more over the fact he is putting alot of importance on body postures, almost as much as oral postur, i will appreciate a detailed video breakdown.
The video is in the works.
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Bro has good posture now he just needs to start high intensity training and get a hair cut and he'll be a chad
What similarly valuable channels do you follow guys? I look for more pearls like this. I know one top notch about nutrition. Already feeling like winning a lottery haha I have a hunger for more epic sources of knowledge!
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Excellent Health is top notch! His videos are informative and well researched.
Doesn’t moving the neck forward and up cause it to lengthen? I already have a long neck in proportion to my body so won’t this make the issue worse?
Its not about the absolute length of your neck complex, but rather the lenghtened composition of muscle and fascia.
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This is an example, but not everyone has the exact same problems. If you have an overly long looking neck, then the adjustment you would make will look different. However, the points mentioned in this video will almost certainly still apply.
Most people who have a long looking neck are pulling the back of their head back and down and lifting their chin. That might not be the case for you, I can’t see you so I don’t know, but that may be the case. In such a situation you still want to look at what’s happening with the larynx. If your head is pulled back and down, your larynx will likely be protruding forward. Similarly, you may find that the back of the armpit for you is too far forward and could be brought back as shown in these images.
While the movement of the head is most visible, as I said in the video, the more nuanced movements of the torso and the larynx are key to making this a successful adjustment.
first thing to do it training neck muscles because longer neck by default means its harder to properly position and control head, as the levar force is bigger than in other people and head weighs more. Also thick neck adds more pleasant look to face and opposite, longer neck seems thinner in proportion to face decreasing pleasant look (but still its cool as it adds some cms to height so no need to feel to back, tallness is even more important).
Its funny ow different set or exercises i do in comparison to typical gym folks haha neck, wrists, back, ankles. I still feel like overtraining pull ups and push ups despite making body look better in mirror introduced some muscular disparities that are troublesome now trying to just get the posture right...
I'm kinda confused here, what exactly should I do to achieve forward growth face?
TOO ME
You already know what you have to do bro: 🔨🗿
Hello mr thanks for the content
I have a question about the spin i did the the torso movement but i noticed my spin have an inside carve my back do not look like yours or the other example in videos so do i mess something or my spin will change with time or do you recommend something to do and thanks again for your effort
Note:
My back was lik yours in old picture but with more carve
I don’t know what inside curve means, but I assume you mean your lower back is curved forward. Adjusting the torso should be done before you work too much with the head. The head is supported by the torso, so if the torso is bent, the head will not stay where it should be. If you watch some of the older videos on my channel, I’ve presented the back and up adjustment of the pelvis and the rotation of the ribcage that brings the upper torso forward and up and the lower ribcage back and up many times. You will not fix the head by focusing only on the head, you need to work with the torso.
@@delsartealexandermasoeroyo9147 👍
1:13 i am a bit low IQ so it is difficult for me to understand some of what you are saying. I suffer from *pectus carinatum* aka pigeon chest and I am wondering if all this that you are talking about could help?
I think it would tend to help, but that's a relatively rare condition, so I don't know a ton about it specifically. Generally what I teach on this channel will take the ribcage toward its correct shape.
I've noticed when I do the directions and try to hold their positions after the 3 second count, I seem to always go into a sympathetic state, I know we are trying not to relax as we need these directions engaged, but how can I stay more parasympathetic? I would notice myself sweating a lot especially in warmer days when doing the system. Is it because my muscles aren't used to the stretch causing them to be more engaged, hence it's like a big workout? I'm also guessing the stiffness feel and look is also due to the muscles not used to this engagement?
Think of these as movements. At first many movements will feel like a huge effort, but it should not stay that way. See if you can get the same amount of movement with less effort. You might be surprised. Don't chase a feeling of exertion. The feeling is not the guide because the feeling will change.
@delsartealexandermasoeroyo9147 Thank you, would feeling tense be a good sign that you are doing the movements though?
@@Matty-H Many adjustments will make you feel "tense" at first, but the feeling is not the guide. The feeling of tenseness will go away, so you can not expect that to be your indication of correctly orchestrated movements. What is tense on day one might feel totally normal on day 30. If you keep chasing a feeling of tenseness, you'll likely end up somewhere you don't want to be.
But that is not a good standing posture, Dr. Mew even talks about it on its videos, how people with receded jaws adopt a forward neck posture to improve their gonial angle.
You should carefully examine the postures. Look at someone with really bad “forward neck” posture and I guarantee you will see their upper sternum tipped back relative to their lower sternum, and you will also see their lower back bent forward. That is not at all what you’ll see in this video. Dr. Mew is wrong about general body posture. He most repeats the conventional wisdom about body posture, and that is as wrong as the conventional wisdom around orthodontics. What I’m presenting is something quite different from the conventional model and quite different from what you’d call forward head posture. I will have another video going a little more in depth on this soon. What Mew calls good posture is really someone who is retracting their head and pushing their belly/lower ribs forward.
I am still in puberty and I want the maxilla to actually grow forward and upward. Why would i want to just move them in those directions in space, limiting their growth?
I think you should interrogate what it means to “grow” forward and up. The Mew’s premise is that if the tongue is up against the roof of the mouth, the maxilla will not come down in space. You’re essentially preventing a movement down of the maxilla by producing a movement upward (applied through force by the tongue). My premise is that the fascia and musculature of the entire head, neck, torso and body support the maxilla and move the maxilla up, which will prevent it from coming down in space.
Think about it, if mewing didn’t move the maxilla forward and up, how could it produce what you’re calling growth? The maxilla would remain back and down and you would change nothing.
Moving the head forward and up will not limit growth. By moving the head to its correct spot, the fascia and musculature of the head can work properly and apply forces to the maxilla that are desirable.
Remember, the entire premise from both sides is that proper posture should prevent depression and recession of the maxilla because the musculature and fascia will apply the appropriate forces to the maxilla. So it’s rather important that the head be where it’s supposed to be in order for the musculature and fascia to work properly.
@@delsartealexandermasoeroyo9147but your theory doesnt have any proof or any results of people.
I´ll be honest i think is BS but i´´ll give it a try though
To be clear, I don’t think most people will be able to make these coordinated movements without first doing some serious work with their torso. This video is just to show an example of what’s possible to do with movements as opposed to the idea of “growth.” If you are going to give it try, you should record yourself from 90 degrees with a webcam. It’s very easy to think you’re doing one thing with your body when in reality you’re doing something else. To make sure you're doing what you think you're doing, you'll want that visual feedback.
@@delsartealexandermasoeroyo9147 what do you mean by 90 degrees? Recording Overhead?
@@delsartealexandermasoeroyo9147also I think it's becoming a little difficult for me to breathe recently and I think it's because of my posture. I also have some digestive or related issues could that also cause breathing issues?
@@bullymaguiresdirtsupplier 90 degrees means from the side. You want to see yourself from the side.
Yes, breathing and digestive problems are two of the most common issues that occur due to poor posture. Most people are essentially crunching their ribcage and restricting their airway, which will then produce bad habits around sucking air in muscularly through the nose or mouth. The protrusion of the abdomen, among other problems, disrupts digestion.
Fr, I think he just got a double jaw surgery and now sells the looks for his zoom course
Thanks Bro❤🙏
I have very bad lower jaw forward growth, is there any way to improve it on my own?
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Wht i got VS wht i want
Yes, but it's difficult to for me to tell you exactly what to do without being able to see you. While there likely is an issue in the jaw, the entire orientation of the head will be important. I would guess you are tipping your head back and down, which will also push the jaw forward. Sustaining any change in the head will also require a change in the torso.
@@delsartealexandermasoeroyo9147i have decent maxilla forward growth. Sharp jaw. No overbite or underbite. But i have bad chin growth/recessed chin.
Do you think you know the problem?
Bro check orthodontist and maxilla surgeon, there are Le Fort operations for Class 2 Malloclusions, I've been mewing and it's all BS, grinding for the op now
@@windws7137 I completely agree man, Mewing is just a way to hook viewer for views, thanks (≧▽≦)
@@windws7137 Yo bruh don't go for operations, you can fix it naturally, operations will only worsen it
Everything you say is contradicted with what dr. Mew says
While the Mews are correct about some things, they’re wrong about others. Most of what they say about overall body posture is completely wrong in my opinion.
@@delsartealexandermasoeroyo9147 i think it may be due to you and mr.mew trying to solve different things, with a smaller layer of overlap
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By long do you mean front to back? Or top to bottom? Most people do have the distance from the end of their chin to the back of their jaw shortened because of the habitual movements they’re making. Getting out of that requires you to first stabilize the torso and then get the head up and over to go forward and up. There will be some videos looking at some stuff related to the use of the mandible and the configuration of the skull soon.