Badminton Pronation Technique - How to Smash and Clear by Jimmy Lin
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- Опубліковано 3 жов 2024
- Learn how to do a proper overhead smash and clear with these five steps. The overhead stroke has not changed over the years but there is a lot of bad teaching out there. New racket technology has not changed the biomechanics of the smash or clear.
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Some additional notes and comments below:
This stroke should be used for clears and smashes. Drops should use the same set up but can be sliced or brushed instead of being hit squarely.
If you are looking to see this technique in action, please refer to my other video: • Badminton Smash Compil...
Before you start practicing the stroke, make sure that you double check your grip! If you are using a bevel grip or a panhandle grip, there is no way you can imitate the motions of this stroke.
The four steps:
1. Reach forward with your elbow
2. Extend your forearm (when your elbow is roughly in the plane of your shoulder)
3. Pronate your forearm and rotate your upper arm so that you are contacting the shuttle squarely with the racket face pointed in the direction that you want the shuttle to travel (no slice), while simultaneously tightening your fingers
4. Follow through by pulling your racket across your body as if you were sheathing a sword
Tips to help you practice:
1. Use a mirror and practice in SLOW MOTION
2. Record a video of yourself yourself with a digital camera or video camera, and play it back in slow motion. Then compare to this video
3. Find someone with the correct technique and stand side by side with them and swing VERY VERY VERY SLOWLY. It should take you 5-10 seconds to complete your stroke.
4. Only when you are very comfortable with the stroke itself should you attempt to hit the shuttle. Your first few hits should NOT travel straight... otherwise chances are you're doing it incorrectly (this will depend on how incorrect your technique was before you tried to change it).
this helped a lot :) thanks man.. i've been playing for a month now and all of my friends who toyed me last month are victims of my smashes :)) lol..
I have been watching all badminton coachings in UA-cam, but I did like your dv.Would you please put more of your coachings on UA-cam? It is very interesting and valuable. Thank you and also the demonstrater boy.
This is the best video so far , I found in this .
I love how you explaining it very clear (step-by-step), and comparing it to common mistakes toward the end that I have been doing. Thanks so much!
I started badminton 4 months ago and watching many instructional videos on basic clear motions and all. All i can say is THIS IS THE ONE! like no joke, i went from crappy clear when i first started, watched a few videos so i did a bit better, then after this video... wow is all i can say. I combined my little experience + this video = fixed my clearing form and got an unexpected result. THANK YOU!
I have learn so many smash before but This smash which i really want to learn, thank for your posting!
I finally learned how to do this technique, definitely worth it!
@thejym
I agree with you about where the source of power comes from and the stressed importance on a proper swing (the arm pronation and such), but my point is that the wrist is equally if not more important in power generation because it is what directs the flow of energy. And no the wrist is partially responsible for the power generation; that is reason why I think we have wrist strengthening in badminton?
genuine question. does this make a difference if i have small hands. it's like impossible to hold my racket with just my fingers. Or should I get a a smaller grip??
Very good tutorial. I needed to see the follow through, I had enough hitting my knee and my balls :-p
For those who are wondering, I believe that Coach Lee is teaching a different style of gripping.
How can you smash straight with this kind of swing? I thought when you smash, your wrist should end up being at flex position? Can you make a slow motion video with smash to different angle on the court
Thọ Huỳnh there must be a angle(about 130-150) between racket and forearm. Dont judge this tutorial.
at least he can help! nice job dude!.. :D I'm a swimming coach, table tennis coach, land loves to play all sports. this time i want to learn more about badminton tricks.. thanks for sharing the proper way to to do it.More Power!:D (From: Phil.)
omg u teach the exact same technique as my coach does to me except his elbow when he swings moves in a more straight direction or it might just be the angle.
Thank you coach, I am a fan from china. I really appreciate what you are sharing. Could not help clicking the "like" button. I have been learning through the techniques you posted and benefited from them a lot. Before this one I never though pronation was so important. I was kind of doing the 'half' pronation, which means I only pronate after the strike. How much power do I lost in this movement?
Amazingggggg thank u for rhis tutorial!!! Im so done with my improper strokesss hahaha tnx mate, really appreciate it 🔥🔥🔥🔥
Yeah, I get the first part, which was definitely clear enough.
But yeah, I suspected I shouldn't be turning the racquet before I make contact. Thanks.
Hey coach, thanks for the video. I have just started playing badminton and I have found your videos very helpful for my progress. My question is when smashing do I stand right underneath the shuttle or should I stand to the side of the shuttle so that it is between my racket arm and head?
Hi San, I happen to watch Coach Lee's video too, I think he is right. But what he told was not a contradiction. We got to pronate, but the the power comes out of the wrist.
This is the right technique. No use of wrist. Snapping the Wrist is only used to perform net kills. See slo motion videos of professional players. They all use forearm pronation. There is no wrist snap.
great video, i fixed my stroke right away
thanks :)
After the pronation, and I'm trying to follow through, is it normal to have like a whip-like, action or a smooth glide when doing so?
Just a question, but where do you want your arm to be when you hit it? In front of you, or slightly angled to the side? so, northeast if you're right handed. And also, when do you tighten your grip, as you hit the bird?
Hey Jimmy, can you make a video about Backhand Smash?i can do lob and drop but i cant smash. Thanks
nice video ...... pronation method is the correct way for hard smashes , likewise flick / point smash is also a good method , good when the contact point is further back , so incorporate both method into your training , become more versatile. For narrowing down angles you can try jumping smashes , this way your contact point will be higher thus narrowing down the angle . Loosen your grip , tighten your fingers during point of contact greatly increase the strength , imagine using screw driver
this is an awesome video. Thanks so much! You really know how to teach, showing us the stroke in various angles, and breaking up the stroke in several parts. Brilliant!
@crest4578
All shots take effort regardless. I think what you are asking is does using this type of swinging reduce the amount of effort you have to put into doing your clears? No. What this guy in the video is demonstrating is just the proper way of swinging; not power control.
The power of your shots come from using your wrist at the moment of contact. And if you can use your wrist instead of trying to use your entire arm, then yes, this decreases the effort to make the birdy go all the way
Stupid Question
Does following it through increase the power of the smash?
ur not suppose to smash straight its suppose to go down
+Vex Great point, I think he forgot about that! His contact point is wrong.
@crest4578
Np :) Well good luck with this. If your timing is off, just use your other arm like a target tracker or smt. This might help.
Too much pronation in this video. The point of it is to create a natural path way for your arm to travel after smashing preventing shoulder/ tennis elbow injury.
Power generates from proper sudden/burst movement of the shoulder and the wrist; not from the arm, forearm.
Most important thing to remember is to "follow through" after swinging. Don't just stop mid-air, and lock your shoulder.
And also, what about the wrist uncocking/cocking? I don't quite understand :/.
hi coach, between the clear and the smash, can we use the same technique right? The only difference is the contact point right?
thank you very much coach,
driveslowly Usually Clears are shots where you make contact with the shuttle when the racket is perpendicular to the ground, so that the shuttle goes long and high.Smashes are when the contact point with the shuttle is a bit more into the stroke, when the racket is going downwards, so the shuttle goes on a downward angle.
Hey everyone/anyone. I discussed this once with a talented player at my club, and they had mentioned that the pronation should happen during the arm extension (straightening of the elbow), so that it all meets up and connects at the birdie at the same time, rather than thinking about it two steps. Can anyone tell me their experience with it?
love it..
it saves my money of not going out for advance trainings for the sports day.. :L
@xEternalx Really? When I used my old stroke, I could only get the birdy NEAR the back of the court.
I have bigger muscles than my friend, but he can put it all the way back with this stroke. Now, I'm still trying to get used to this stroke, it could be that my timing is bad. But thanks.
I just read ”be careful indoors“ ... Too late, I already hit the ceiling.........
I feel like I have it generally down after about a week (and some 1 on 1 coaching), but oftentimes, i feel like I don't have much twisting action.
It's just that when I practice the stroke in the mirror, the swing is more straight rather than a diagonal-like motion. But I definitely am making the effort to have the twisting action.
Oh, wait. What you're doing at 4:30 looks exactly like my normal stroke.
But then 4:45. It's more diagonal.
Its incredible how much this video has increased my smash power in less than 5 times playing.
Now I feel I've been holding myself back.
The worst problem in my game now is lifts (from smashes or drops). How should I do lifts? Please make a video!
Question is... How does one make such a swing?
I see all the steps & swings torturial.
But when it's come to playing...
Only 2 out of 100 swings have correct posture, the rest is more of random.
For example. I practice 6 Corners Step for 6 months.
But I never actually use it much in a Game. I almost just ran out everywhere...
After you step out to lunch at bird, you're supposed to reset your step and positions yourself in middle.
But most of the time time, the balls swing so fast that you can't reset your steps and ended up running around everywhere like a drunk.
And I'm not just saying this... I watched everyone play in the courts... I watch their steps, I watch their swings... None of it was the correct ways.
And those guys are somewhat... so-called "Intermediates to Skillful Players". Some have been playing for years. And even under instructions of Coaches.
And from what I can tell, their postures & their swings are just as random as me. The most noticeable differences are they way can can control angle of birds better than me, and their swing have more powers...
I've been using this technique you show here in your video. Recently i've been watching Lee Jae Boks videos from coachingbadminton channel. What's interesting is that he thinks that when smashing most power comes from the wrist. This is not what i hear elsewhere. What do you think Jimmy?
different style of hit
Jimmy,
This is an awesome tutorial! I'm just wondering, should you be reaching up for the highest point that you can reach during an overhead stroke? Because I when i saw the slow motion demos that you were doing of the stroke, it seems like your racket was not pointing straight up and down but sort of to the side. Should I be reaching up as high as i can during the stroke?
I think you're referring to Coach Lee. I found a lot of difference between Coach Lee's style and the Chinese style. Jimmy Lin's grip is similar to the Chinese style of a smash grip. I think both are correct. It depends on your preference.
Great video man,I see you havent uploaded in 9 years but I subscribed anyway lol
What happened - you got a gf or what? 🤣
WOW. This is definitely the best smash video. I play tennis and I really love your pronation. I'm able to add more speed to my overhead by using your technique.
Thank you!!!
I could not hit the shuttle cock. What could be the problem? though i could hit it sometimes, but im not satisfied with the power generated and i cannot control where the bird goes. :(
This is by far the best instructional video on badminton strokes that I've ever seen.
Thanks very much for sharing these invaluable pointers with us all.
Is it possible that my racket handle is "clocked" differently to yours?
If I have my finger and thumb resting on the wide flats as you specificy (which does feel correct), then the V between my thumb and index finger is actually in line with the edge of the racket, not the face of the racket like you say it should be.
Should the racket face be in-line with the palm of the hand, or perpendicular? It looks like it can only be inline with *either* the palm, or the V between thumb & index finger.
+Carl Farrington He misspoke. The V should not be in line with the racket face. It's in line with the frame. (for what's known as the forehand grip)
I think you kind of over rotate your wrist. during normal high and clear the racket should face towards the direction where you intend to hit the shuttle.
Thanks Jimmy, I can now smash the shuttlecock!
I was first thrilled by this video. Though I still like and agree with your emphasizing the pronation aspect I have to question your drill a bit after having studied the videos of so many professional players. If you observe professional players you can definitely see a noticeable or accentuated hip-shoulder separation. In your video, that separation is mostly missing. Most teachers in sports that practice a "throwing movement advocate that hip-shoulder separation (watch e.g. baseball, javelin or tennis videos). One of the biggest mistakes according to those guys is when you do not have that hip-shoulder separation. Your thought on this topic? Best regards. Also thanks for all of your videos which - even if I allow myself to criticize this video - I found very helpful in finding out your own stile.
You're right but when you're teaching badminton to beginners, it's best to teach them the stroke first and once they develop more, go into footwork and hip/shoulder separation and rotation. It's called block learning; separating a movement into 3 different chunks and eventually combining them to make the full movement.
Hi Jimmy, thank you for your answer which I fully understand. Keep on posting those great videos! Best regards Dermann
Present iam struggling with the first problem
@2qd121ws If you are a beginner, Just get a racquet from Sports Mart/ Check...
If you want to spend 300 dollars... Arc Saber ZSlash, or the limited Arc Saber 10...
If you want one that is good overall... Nanospeed 9900...
(P.s. I use black knight, but those are the racquet names that are common)
very good tutorial...even its simple..thx :)
Lots of incorrect instructions out there of what really happen. I revisited this clip from years ago, and got more out of it this time. I'm trying to hit flatter serve in tennis, & it's the identical motion.
Best tutorial i've seen so far others are poorly explained with minimal details given
good stuff!
Hey! i'm a decent badminton player & train with my university fellows.i play both doubles & singles.I don't have exceptional wrist but good at smashing yet not so good with techniques(trying to learn).I've to buy Best badminton racket within the budget of 150-200$. Looking for Yonex/Li Ning or Maybe victor although i haven't had chance to try victor,had good experience with yonex nanoray 600 & li ning n55.If somebody is aware of any helpful information pls suggest best for me.
Thanks in advance.
i want to reply but 5 years ago lol.
stil going to mention that if you call urself decent, maybe stay with small racket til you get "Intermediate" level
@thejym
The wrist extension is not as natural as you made have made it sound. Sure, it the wrist naturally extents with the proper swing, but to some extent you have to force the wrist flick a little more to get the power you want. Wrist flick is a source of power too is what i am saying :D
Every video on pronation talk about how important it is, but none of them break it down in enough detail that we can all learn. Your video is an exception to that rule, well done!!!⭐⭐⭐
@crest4578
Yeah... Exactly. You're only 16. No need to worry. You will improve with time for sure. Just practice really hard lol. At first I thought you were like 20 cause that is what it says on your profile, but nvm, that's good. 16 still young xD
@thejym
How about we meet up and I demonstrate what I mean. And no I'm not going to post a video of me doing it on youtube like you do lol. I need to hide my account identity.
Hi, coach I don't know if you know, this video influenced many badminton club players in South Korea.
Opinions on this video are as follows:
1. This pronation technique is right way All top players hit like this
2. It is not appropriate for amateur players because of the risk of injury.
I think it's a very useful video for those over a year who feel a bit limited not for beginners .
Thanks a lot.
Also, now i'm finding that in order to make the racquet square with the birdie, I have to use my index finger and thumb to rotate the racquet upon contact.
Is my whole stroke wrong?
@xEternalx If we were to divide the "classes of badminton" into 4, Beginner, Intermediate, Advanced, and national level, I'd be intermediate. See, using the left hand to "time it" I'm not used to that either. My hand is either down or low. I need to relax more, lol. And about relearning? Yeah, I'm 16, at least that's better than relearning as an adult. :/
Is this shot supposed to take no effort whatsoever? I just recently learned how to do a proper proper proper clear stroke. And I'm not used to it, lol. I have the power to do it, I know I do, but my timing is bad. So yeah, is it supposed to take no effort whatsoever to make the birdy go all the way back?
no...i guarantee this guys got no power in his smash
@thejym The flick wrist technique was just pronating at a faster speed correct?
After watching your video I realised what was wrong in my technique due to which I was having muscle pain.
Thank you so so much...
can yu tell me why im unable to lift racket on 6th day if i play 5 days in a row ? (deltoid muscle) ??? hurts
thanks
it is not when training yo will have to do tons of footworks and those foot works will make you sweat like hell, you will also do like lifting and going back with proper footwork and do some lobbing which can tire you out for example basketball, the sport can be called easy just by looking but when training it cud be quite stressful, badminton also requires stability and accuracy and mental concertration without this your chance of winning wud be 1~15%
Hey Jimmy, its me again.
I'm very confused about the "stick-smash" or the "flick wrist'' technique and this pronation technique. My coach taught me the flick wrist technique, which has no power. I recently found out that alot of professionals used pronation technique. Can you explain to me which technique should i use? If i use the flick wrist technique, i would have a steeper angle but with less power. I tried with the pronation technique and found thatthe power was great, but angle was high.
You should only do the 10 degree rotation for a smash directly in front of your body
Hi, I started practicing badminton about a month ago and in addition to the club training, I started to UA-cam-Learn different things. While practicing with a friend, either my wrist or my shoulder start to hurt when I try to hit some smashes. Am I doing something wrong and if so, what could it be? I'll try your technique to see if it helps....
For All Begginers
1.you will have to learn your stroke in a correct way
2.do some footwork to increase yor speed
3.do lifting and serveing
4.practice backhand and forehand
5.pratice net kills
6.learn dropshots
7.ask a partner and drop shuttle at the nearest corner to the net for you to either practice backhand or forehand
8. play a few matches to get ready
9.AND BE4 YO DO ALL THAT DO THE PROPER WARM UP OR YOUR GONNA SPRAIN YOUR MUSCLES!!!!
10.Most important is to have passion in what you do!
@xEternalx Haha, if only I took badminton seriously when I was younger, then I'd learn it faster XD... I have the stroke down, but when I actually play, I keep forgetting.... Hmm, Looks like I need to practice more.
This is exelent, but first hip and elbow and wrist 🏸 Great
i am quite confuse...
the first 3 steps you mention is in a consecutive way or do it in one shot?
if do try to complete the steps one by one,isn't that swinging speed going to be slow?
i agree with you the racket shud be flat facing your oppent, 2~3sec after your swing you shud move your left/right leg depends on your usage of left or right handed if you did not move your leg, your racket wud or may hit your lap and may cause injuries :)
if u dont have time to smash properly and u have good wrist action, at least for me i find it a nice way to fire the shuttle to the empty spaces and get a point or at least move them. Good to suddenly inject a bit of pace but u wont get a strong smash out of it
Thanks for the comment about why some people slicing the shuttle. I have been trying to nail down why I am slicing, and will now focus on pronating more fully, as you suggest.
Thx a lots for this Video, Now i can smash very havey when i see this video, but u must have basic before smash.
I'm curious, looking at your video it would seem that the contact point of the shuttle isn't as high as it would if you would use the wrist technique instead. I can't see any other way of thinking that prontation technique generates more power but less angle or am I wrong?
hei... whats the mistakes if the shuttle always travel straight ? im having difficulties with my shuttle not travelling down, but travelling straight.
whoa dude! THANK YOU. your video is so descriptive. i tend to just throw my arm when i do a stroke. but ive just imitatated what you said about using your elbow in your overhead stroke and i feel like im propeling my arm more and can generate my power. i cant wait to try this out! :D
but it really does make more sense! i can feel the difference! btw how long have you been playing? is that a high school gym?
im 19 ive been playing for 3 years since 16.
when I smash the racket seems to alway almost fall out of the hand, i hold on it, but its not a pleasant feeling is it suppose to be like that?
did yo injured your elbow i not yo shud seek medical attention to see what wrong or it cud be that yo did not do proper warm up be4 starting ur training :) hope this helps
From gesture by Jimmy lin, it is easy to see that he practice long tine badminton by coach when he as a kid.
Therefore, dont judge this tutorial.
thanks
if the forehand is pronate than the backhand is supine... am i right? i'm deadly in training with my backhand... coz my backhand is bad...
@capapsss Yes, this is pretty much the best way to increase the power in any drive you play, also, try searching for Episode 28 part 1 Use of fingers, Aggressiveness.
It demonstrates how to use your fingers and grip in the most efficient manner.
I'm so glad I just watched this video again because I realized that in gripping the racket for forehand I had been using the pad of my thumb instead of the side of my thumb. I should have paid more attention to the details of the grip from the beginning.
Can you also show a video of you smashing birds as well? I seem to always cut the bird when i pronate and i just want to see how you're timing and taking your shots. Thanks
How to execute backhand with power ?
It takes time to get used to (I was panhandle at first, switching to grip V was also really uncomfortable and wobbly). You need to build strength arm strenght and develop a faster wrist flick. There are 3 grips to learn and the best players switch grips depending on the shuttle's direction and reach.
Great thanks. I am a beginner and I really learned a lot from the video. Many other videos on smashes tell you about getting power from your wrist but don’t explain fully the pronation technique, which is not just the action of your wrist but your whole forearm.
this is a simple but very effective in pointing the correct technique to a forehand stroke. this is a great video. I have learnt something new, with the elbow point....
Thanks
David
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Thanks - it is a great video and clear instruction:-) Perhaps you record a couple of real time plays and I'd love to see it. Thanks again!!
Very good vid. Now I know why I don't have control over my smashes, I always do the pan handle thingie. Thanks for the vid =D
Why do u reverse slice at the end? For maximum power u should hit it flat or cut slightly to improve the steepness