i dont even think thats even a question at this point. though that being said, if you do enjoy genshin's simplicity, there's nothing wrong with that. if you prefer more combat, there's the obvious option (*cough* wuwa *cough*)
Yh and KURO doing this for 4 years. Thats why PGR community really love both the Game and the Devs. Unlike most of other Gacha communities who only like the game and hate devs.
@@k-BlazeWW30 this could never shit is stupid they can but won't because they don't have to. WW has to do this because they aren't number one. devs don't care about you it's about money if kuro could do the bare minimal and make bank they would
Ok, I see two pretty big things on the artifact system changes, if I understand it correctly. First, their system sucked because you didn't see the substats without using resin to unlock them but now sacrificing artifacts with unlocked substats refunds some of those items used to unlock them I think? And second, the substat values will be less random so if you did roll that crit rate, it'll be useable. btw, maybe I misunderstand this but I feel being able to farm these without resin is not as useless as it sounds. Yes, you don't see the substats without resin but you still see the piece, the main stat, and set I believe? Imagine if you could farm artifacts in Genshin and it was 100% free until you get the on set hydro damage cup you are looking for, and even then you only pay the resin for that one cup. All other pieces cost nothing unless you're actually using them.
I think he meant that in long term, you'll have a bunch of Echoes with good main stats But you won't be able to upgrade them cause of the lack of EXP materials So, at that point, it will be useless to continue to farm in the open world (until you run out of Echoes to upgrade)
For @ Biimow The turners are what give you the substats. Think genshin artifact drops with no substats. You level it then unlock a socket for the turner to go into. That turner gives you a random substat. Well their are making it less rng to improve the system. TURNERS are what you SPEND your resin on in WW
Genshin already succeeded. Wuwa needs to succeed, it couldn't had been cheap to develop it. So yeah, they better listen or be the 15th monthly gacha going EOS.
Genshin will destroy Wuwa... It's too late to get into this market and claim Genshin's money. HOYO has Genshin, Star Rail, ZZZ... ZZZ has 2 times more pre-registrations than WW. If WW can’t defeat even little ZZZ, then he may no longer dream of Genshin’s money... The greedy ghouls from WW are trying to grab too much of his audience and will be punished for this... They should have only grabbed one audience, for example making a game with 100% anime boys or 100% Waifu. Now they have doomed themselves and no one will need this game.
@@lamlo9999 HOYO is a billionaire; it costs him nothing to buy up all the advertising. All the money that WW earns is money that Genshin will lose, and if he loses it in any case, then it would be better to spend it on blocking the information flows from WW and its advertising. Then the army of casuals will remain with HOYO, and WW will be destroyed, because without casuals he will not have enough money to develop the game.
Genshin will destroy Wuwa... It's too late to get into this market and claim Genshin's money. HOYO has Genshin, Star Rail, ZZZ... ZZZ has 2 times more pre-registrations than WW. If WW can’t defeat even little ZZZ, then he may no longer dream of Genshin’s money... The greedy ghouls from WW are trying to grab too much of his audience and will be punished for this... They should have only grabbed one audience, for example making a game with 100% anime boys or 100% Waifu. Now they have doomed themselves and no one will need this game.
Biimow, I'm gonna give u a bit of knowledge here and straight up tell some things my guy They are, you don't have to feel embarrassed, or awkward, or wrong for repeating one criticism from one genshin vid to another. Consistency is Key. The more you accumulate criticisms that are big and deep on themselves, you should feel more than comfortable to repeat them between vids. People (viewers) have a short memory, when they go back to the frivolity of the game question, it's your responsibility to bring into light the things they ignore or simply forget. This will not come out as a way to assume arrogance out of you, but rather as a way to remind the player what was the reason he was even mad about in the first place. And that by itself is not wrong, some people would like to say if someone has to remind you the reason you were bothered in the first place than you weren't bothered at all are mistaken, certain issues have such a long time for resolution the natural human instinct is to simply move on. While that isn't a bad thing in the naturalistic sense, since we evolved from caveman days we are actively lured into that mode of thinking strategically by companies such as Hoyoverse, where we might be annoyed in a short instance but because we are used to such shitty quality of products we tend to ignore the overall underlying issues of one company because one company's standard is so different to another lowtier company's standard. You have to keep track of the reasons of the outrage and remain them ever constant in the eye of the average player, so as they do not forget about. Don't worry about repeating content or criticism, this not only helps old forgetful players as well as works to opening the eyes of new players who were not aware of such issues before. Everyone needs to know, notice and feel a decrease in quality if the company they are paying is treating them like sh*t. Please keep the fire of the boycott going, we are relying on you.
WuWa will be a success. Kuro Games listens. That’s already a big W. Hoyoverse loves to aggravate their community. It’s getting cyclical and exhausting. Hoyoverse needs to be humbled. WuWa will humble them, and it will be too late for Hoyoverse to do better.
hoyoverse stomps in money they'll just take everything from WW so no kuro will be lucky if the game doesn't hit EOS in a few years. it needs to make way more money then pgr like ten times the amount.
@@eddieboston6540 we’ll see. i refuse to believe that a company like Hoyoverse that likes to aggravate their community will stay strong for all of its existence. Eventually, people will begin supporting Hoyoverse’s competitors. and Hoyoverse will be humbled.
This game doesn’t even have half the pre registers of the new hoyo game ZZZ lmao I don’t think hoyo is worried lmao they’re going to have a 3rd money printer after Genshin and star rail
Actually we still don't know until it finally release. We all know, Genshin has a covid buff the players invest their time during lockdown. Even we say we can 2 games, the average of player don't have time. They already complain about the no skip button and exploration on genshin. But what about ww? I wish WW will be popular.
covid was 4 years ago and genshin has gotten bigger since then so this buff is bullshit in fact if not for genshin no open world gacha games would exist it be too much a risk to do. but like also ways hoyoverse has to change the gacha space. my point is no game like honkai impact 3rd existed before it it was all cheap low quality turn base gacha games
Genshin will destroy Wuwa... It's too late to get into this market and claim Genshin's money. HOYO has Genshin, Star Rail, ZZZ... ZZZ has 2 times more pre-registrations than WW. If WW can’t defeat even little ZZZ, then he may no longer dream of Genshin’s money... The greedy ghouls from WW are trying to grab too much of his audiences and will be punished for this... They should have only grabbed one audience, for example making a game with 100% anime boys or 100% Waifu. Now they have doomed themselves and no one will need this game.
Hey my guy, check azur promilia, if this game release this year or early next year it would go nuts beacuse it checks all what open world arpg enjoyer want, and also it have casual friendly gameplay too I cant even wait to get my hand on the beta when they announce it
@@Saji_0 i see problems from girls audience to how the story is gonna be without men in an openworld game. if there are men in the game, the actual playable men then Azur Promilia will be the best gacha game this year.
@@Penguin-nx5ncIt already has male characters. Just no playable characters. Also, the most successful banners in Genshin were ones that had female characters, so I don't think that makes the game niche.
Some of you all need to chill out on AP. We have no idea what the gameplay loop even looks like, nobody has publically tested the game, and literally the only thing we can judge the game on is one showcase. So until a beta test is announced and people get to play it, I'm holding my breath.
I still don't get why these CC's love comparing shids. Like what's your goal? Aside from views and dividing the community who favors one and forces another one that the latter is greater than the former? I play PGR, Genshin, Honkai Impact/Star Rail.I enjoy all of these and would also gladly play WuWa, so aside from creating issues. What's your goal????
Im gonna give you another piece of advice you might not be aware at all. Th global community is NOT the american community, PGR suffered a GOD TON of issues you are not aware at all because you were not present when these problems surfaced. Same thing applies to Genshin, people think the Leviathans/Whales/Dolphins come from North America, sometimes yes, sometimes not at fucking all. Also, I'm not sure if you indeed have asian descent but there's a weird hella aspect it exists around the korean and the chinese sphere which are things that are not supposed to be issues at all yet they became so anyways so have fun with that.
The real reason why Wuthering Waves will success: - They know who their player and what they want - They listen to their player's criticism The thing that made me always feel Genshin is a wasted potential is because they always try to cater to as many people as possible, turning into a game with a little of everything. It's definitely works when they're monopolizing the market. But unless they try to change their current way, when real competitor like Wuthering Waves, Project Mugen, Arknights Endfield, and even recently announced Azur Promilia out, Genshin is going to stumbled and left behind. Not really to the point of the game is dying or anything, just that it will never see the success it currently has and become the shell of its former glory.
>The real reason why Wuthering Waves will success: - They know who their player and what they want - They listen to their player's criticism --- Yes? Then why is PGR not popular and not profitable? After all, they do everything exactly the same way.
@@broccoli5176 Dunno why you asking the obvious when it's an infamous fact that Kuro is really lacking when it comes to their marketing for PGR. So far it doesn't seem like they gonna repeat that mistake with WuWa. Beside hack and slash arpg is more niche than open world arpg. HI3 is made by Mihoyo but sharing the same genre as PGR it's also not as popular nor profitable as its sister game, is it not?
Watering waves will succeed precisely because it isn’t a “genshin killer” . At its core it targets the “gamer” audience . Azure promilia on the other hand I think has a better hand a breaking the norms barrier however all the youthful maidens be giving Blue protocol vibes . Additionally I don’t think they’ll even have male characters and there’s a possibility no English VAing .
@@Gheniel_, it will, because both share the pool of ex genshin players who were just tired of genshin, but azure promilia looks way more appealing to that audience so they are gonna go into that instead. It also has better pokemon system, which is why some people liked wuwa in the first place sooo
About wuwa dethroning genshin, you can never be sure. That's what they thought about star wars, disney and EA. Fast forward a few decades later, all of these things arent making alot of money or people just don't care anymore. Even though I love genshin, theres no such thing as being invincible, unless you're God and I want genshin to get a wake up call for all of our sakes, including their competitors because I don't want genshin to die, no matter how bad it is right now
Genshin will destroy Wuwa... It's too late to get into this market and claim Genshin's money. HOYO has Genshin, Star Rail, ZZZ... ZZZ has 2 times more pre-registrations than WW. If WW can’t defeat even little ZZZ, then he may no longer dream of Genshin’s money... The greedy ghouls from WW are trying to grab too much of his audiences and will be punished for this... They should have only grabbed one audience, for example making a game with 100% anime boys or 100% Waifu. Now they have doomed themselves and no one will need this game.
The echo system not seems to be reworked much, there is still a tromendous RNG in there with all stats being random and amount of these stats is huge, so you basically can farm your set for 24 hours a day and get nothing usefull. Like they gave you more chances to roll but there is still no like substat selectors or smth. Not to mention the 50/50. Like, some form of pity for artifact system needs to be implemented. And, if the meta will be similar to PGRs where you need to build like a team for each element, the 50/50 system on banners is greedy asf
After hearing much of your thoughts, hearing you say you dont care feels weird hahahaha! Why not just say, "you don't have to subscribe but it would be appreciated if you do." I also hope that MHY's mishaps actually opens opportunities to other games.
as in i understamd stuff i say dont resonate with everyone so i don't care if its not everyone's cup of tea. yh with the recent HSR situation alot of ppl are very concerned as its not just "Genshins dev team" like ppl always say
Mihoyo is still the best one regarding the ability to update their game. At least you get constant annual update. What is the thing mihoyo doesn't deliver?
@@Exoskel2 I don't think anyone is questioning about the updates, they are questioning the content of the updates. You seem like a approx 2-year player, you will start to see it once you reach end game for Genshin at least.
@@Exoskel2 I know, been there done that defending a billion-dollar company. Give it more time, you will understand. Don’t forget they are providing you services for money, and there is nothing wrong in articulating any deficiencies you see, more so by paying customers like myself.
besides, there's another new game Azur Promilia shining brighter even than WuWa. Not sure about the release date. It's like genshin + palworld + palia or smth. AND! You can also mount beautiful and cute creatures, you can make them fight for you in a party. I have a feeling it's gonna give a "home" feeling, thanks to the vibes, style and.. game assets :D But still. Gotta try WuWa at least.
Yes, shining so bright my eyes hurt. Can't play another happy fantasy game anymore I want something different, that's just another fantasy waifu collector.
@@eddieboston6540 true but a lot of my friends and people I know are also hopping of genshin so I just said what I’m seeing. I am a fan of genshin but come on 3 wishes in 3 years.
Ww is a skip for me, I don't want to be a part of a fandom thats toxic too,part of being genshin fandom is already hard,pgr is good too,i will stick with that.and arknights Enfield is coming too,for me that looks polished ashell🥴
@@lighty2884 every fandom is toxic 💀. Y'all just shouldn't be playing games if your first thought is instead of "will I enjoy this" it's "what is the fandom like?".
@@yomoheiliv6375no, when it was cbt, they generally responded, first impressions are worth a lot so obviously they cared about feedback during launch. Now? Yeah they don’t really respond because they have a massive following and every month, they get like 10s of millions of USD so they don’t care 3 years in. But before the game was launched, they cared.
But the agenda! Fun fact: the echose still suck. Geting all the substats correct is 5 out 14 which is 1 out of 2002 diffferent combinations. It's 126 in genshin except on goblets (210 on those).
Genshin will destroy Wuwa... It's too late to get into this market and claim Genshin's money. HOYO has Genshin, Star Rail, ZZZ... ZZZ has 2 times more pre-registrations than WW. If WW can’t defeat even little ZZZ, then he may no longer dream of Genshin’s money... The greedy ghouls from WW are trying to grab too much of his audience and will be punished for this... They should have only grabbed one audience, for example making a game with 100% anime boys or 100% Waifu. Now they have doomed themselves and no one will need this game.
@@yomoheiliv6375 This clown trash clone of Genshin will be destroyed, this game is too stupid to deserve success. We already have HOYO trash games, we don't need another one of these. Let him be destroyed and start doing something truly different from Genshin. WW is not a game, but a public toilet, where they are going to make the same clown characters - stupid schoolgirls and millions of anime boys. And this is exactly what HOYO is doing, which means no one needs WW’s services..
genshin is dead for anyone non casual the moment wuthering is out. its a casual game and all yada yada yada, they could be more but they won't and don't need to, likewise we non casual players are moving on soon.
Nah. It's more like: (WW showed up) Genshin: phew, luckily this is for non casual players. I still have a chanc... (Azure Promilia shows up) Genshin: oh f....
@@k-BlazeWW30 legend of neverland is BS compared to this. the game is literally genshin copy-paste with not too good graphics and combat mechanics. but this? Azur Promillia is one million time better than genshin. "THE REAL GENSHIN KILLER". casual aspects - checked, combat mechanic - checked, a little bit of hardcore aspects from the boss fight trailer - checked. the only downside is there are no men in the game. you are so blind both eyes and heart if you dont hype to this game. "overhype much?" give me a F ing break LMFAO.. 🤣
@@Breezee80 no WW will fail it's trying to please both hardcore and casual players which is bad and given pgr event cycle the game won't have much to do after the main story. Azure promilia is closer to WW then genshin but no genshin has 4 to 5 years on it. natlan is dropping this year and the nation of ice next year with the final nation in 2026. genshin has a ten year plan so it has content roadmap until 2030
Combat-focused, yay! And I also really like the color palette. These colors look, idk how to explain it, expensive and sophisticated? And genshin color palette looks like cheap toy plastic. Never liked it
Mature tones...which is also my favorite color theme in game like nier and fromsoftware series, genshin trying to target anime group with bright colour which is fine , to each their own
@@bencegergohocz5988 well idk, complex and muted colors (not just plain green, but green with a shade of grey/olive/brown etc) really do look sophisticated, because they have more depth to them. Also, expensive brands, interiors of expensive hotels and restaurants tend to have complex, muted colors. That's why these colors are associated with "expensive"
@@lighty2884 N1 in what, being popular amongst rookies and children like you with no criteria and no experience in the genre? Sure, Mihoho whiteknight.
@@yomoheiliv6375 doesn't change the fact that genshin is more popular than any other gacha game. I'm saying it again, stop comparing the game, you are just making your community looks toxic
"The real reason why i'm going to be a millionaire" just dreaming about stuff won't make it a reality. People like you are the reason why devs get harassement and threats, WV devs never compared themselves to genshin or hoyoverse why are you guys involving them in this without their consent ?
Don't treat entire companies like individual people. I'm practically a Kuro shill but even I have to say that at the end of the day, Kuro is a company and that company wants your money. Everything they do, they do to get more money. That's it. They only listen to the playerbase because they deem it more effective in achieving their goals that way.
WW just looks bland to me, while azur seems to have more life to it. However i seen a loot of devs telling how they will fix or improve game, but dont do crap after due to being rushed by a ceo to make a product ready or other issues. Personaly i would rather see them do stuff and show how they are improving the game in real time, like some studios show. Heck just showing a code in processing would be something. Like Palword devs did a while ago. Its hard to say this game will pull enogh people in as the market is already overcrowded with this type of games as people have limited time to play due to work or school. Also quitting one free to play game that you already invested is very hard for some people. I know however that zzzzzzzzz boring next mihoyo game will flop realy hard. And they will probaly do another 5 star like rail and cause more issues with gensin players later calling them greedy and stuff. One thing however is that CCP may end up causing sabotage in china market to the WW since they are not favored by them. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Punishing:_Gray_Raven
well, I think differently than you, wuwa seems mature and promising to me, azur promilia seems like genshin 2.0 to me. with mounts and seeing so many loli and bright colors made me remember the pedophile community r34 of genshin xD I know Azur Lane and I give that game 2 months to be an ecchi with stagnant gameplay
azur promilia only have waifu but no self-insert MC, which is pretty bad for Parasocial game type. i know many game died very early due "Player" don't have any role in the story.
"overcrowded" Where? The only reason I've been playing Genshin until now was the lack of alternatives. Open world single player anime games are pretty rare. Those you can play for 1000s of hours even more so.
Wuthering Waves or Genshin? 🤔
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i dont even think thats even a question at this point. though that being said, if you do enjoy genshin's simplicity, there's nothing wrong with that. if you prefer more combat, there's the obvious option (*cough* wuwa *cough*)
@@seasalt0975 spot on
Azur promilia
both. both are great 🤝
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Game developers that actually listen to player feedback and immediately address it is such a breath of fresh air these days
Yh and KURO doing this for 4 years. Thats why PGR community really love both the Game and the Devs. Unlike most of other Gacha communities who only like the game and hate devs.
@@clumzy7777 Yh?
@@AngryLad_80 salty asf sarcastic asf mintpicker. gensht couldNever
@@k-BlazeWW30 this could never shit is stupid they can but won't because they don't have to. WW has to do this because they aren't number one. devs don't care about you it's about money if kuro could do the bare minimal and make bank they would
@@eddieboston6540Whiteknight troll
Ok, I see two pretty big things on the artifact system changes, if I understand it correctly.
First, their system sucked because you didn't see the substats without using resin to unlock them but now sacrificing artifacts with unlocked substats refunds some of those items used to unlock them I think?
And second, the substat values will be less random so if you did roll that crit rate, it'll be useable.
btw, maybe I misunderstand this but I feel being able to farm these without resin is not as useless as it sounds. Yes, you don't see the substats without resin but you still see the piece, the main stat, and set I believe? Imagine if you could farm artifacts in Genshin and it was 100% free until you get the on set hydro damage cup you are looking for, and even then you only pay the resin for that one cup. All other pieces cost nothing unless you're actually using them.
I think he meant that in long term,
you'll have a bunch of Echoes with good main stats
But you won't be able to upgrade them cause of the lack of EXP materials
So, at that point, it will be useless to continue to farm in the open world (until you run out of Echoes to upgrade)
For @ Biimow
The turners are what give you the substats. Think genshin artifact drops with no substats. You level it then unlock a socket for the turner to go into. That turner gives you a random substat. Well their are making it less rng to improve the system. TURNERS are what you SPEND your resin on in WW
Told you so that they are going to fix and improve the game for us
I found out about Punishing Gray Raven from a Lucia cosplayer i met
Genshin already succeeded. Wuwa needs to succeed, it couldn't had been cheap to develop it. So yeah, they better listen or be the 15th monthly gacha going EOS.
Genshin will destroy Wuwa... It's too late to get into this market and claim Genshin's money. HOYO has Genshin, Star Rail, ZZZ... ZZZ has 2 times more pre-registrations than WW. If WW can’t defeat even little ZZZ, then he may no longer dream of Genshin’s money...
The greedy ghouls from WW are trying to grab too much of his audience and will be punished for this... They should have only grabbed one audience, for example making a game with 100% anime boys or 100% Waifu.
Now they have doomed themselves and no one will need this game.
@@angmar87Whiteknight.
@@angmar87 We'll see if your comment will age well
@@lamlo9999 HOYO is a billionaire; it costs him nothing to buy up all the advertising. All the money that WW earns is money that Genshin will lose, and if he loses it in any case, then it would be better to spend it on blocking the information flows from WW and its advertising.
Then the army of casuals will remain with HOYO, and WW will be destroyed, because without casuals he will not have enough money to develop the game.
@@lamlo9999 ignore it. This dude a troll
it'll be a success cause imma make a boob tier list on it the moment it releases
Oh no....
He got his priorities straight 💀
Genshin will destroy Wuwa... It's too late to get into this market and claim Genshin's money. HOYO has Genshin, Star Rail, ZZZ... ZZZ has 2 times more pre-registrations than WW. If WW can’t defeat even little ZZZ, then he may no longer dream of Genshin’s money...
The greedy ghouls from WW are trying to grab too much of his audience and will be punished for this... They should have only grabbed one audience, for example making a game with 100% anime boys or 100% Waifu.
Now they have doomed themselves and no one will need this game.
@@angmar87 yooo who u fighting with💀
@@angmar87ok bot
Biimow, I'm gonna give u a bit of knowledge here and straight up tell some things my guy
They are, you don't have to feel embarrassed, or awkward, or wrong for repeating one criticism from one genshin vid to another. Consistency is Key. The more you accumulate criticisms that are big and deep on themselves, you should feel more than comfortable to repeat them between vids. People (viewers) have a short memory, when they go back to the frivolity of the game question, it's your responsibility to bring into light the things they ignore or simply forget. This will not come out as a way to assume arrogance out of you, but rather as a way to remind the player what was the reason he was even mad about in the first place. And that by itself is not wrong, some people would like to say if someone has to remind you the reason you were bothered in the first place than you weren't bothered at all are mistaken, certain issues have such a long time for resolution the natural human instinct is to simply move on. While that isn't a bad thing in the naturalistic sense, since we evolved from caveman days we are actively lured into that mode of thinking strategically by companies such as Hoyoverse, where we might be annoyed in a short instance but because we are used to such shitty quality of products we tend to ignore the overall underlying issues of one company because one company's standard is so different to another lowtier company's standard. You have to keep track of the reasons of the outrage and remain them ever constant in the eye of the average player, so as they do not forget about. Don't worry about repeating content or criticism, this not only helps old forgetful players as well as works to opening the eyes of new players who were not aware of such issues before. Everyone needs to know, notice and feel a decrease in quality if the company they are paying is treating them like sh*t. Please keep the fire of the boycott going, we are relying on you.
WuWa will be a success. Kuro Games listens. That’s already a big W.
Hoyoverse loves to aggravate their community. It’s getting cyclical and exhausting. Hoyoverse needs to be humbled. WuWa will humble them, and it will be too late for Hoyoverse to do better.
hoyoverse stomps in money they'll just take everything from WW so no kuro will be lucky if the game doesn't hit EOS in a few years. it needs to make way more money then pgr like ten times the amount.
@@eddieboston6540 we’ll see. i refuse to believe that a company like Hoyoverse that likes to aggravate their community will stay strong for all of its existence. Eventually, people will begin supporting Hoyoverse’s competitors. and Hoyoverse will be humbled.
@@eddieboston6540You won't get paid from that money so stop cleaning Mihoyo's boots, whiteknight troll.
@@eddieboston6540 ?
This game doesn’t even have half the pre registers of the new hoyo game ZZZ lmao I don’t think hoyo is worried lmao they’re going to have a 3rd money printer after Genshin and star rail
Actually we still don't know until it finally release. We all know, Genshin has a covid buff the players invest their time during lockdown. Even we say we can 2 games, the average of player don't have time. They already complain about the no skip button and exploration on genshin. But what about ww? I wish WW will be popular.
covid was 4 years ago and genshin has gotten bigger since then so this buff is bullshit in fact if not for genshin no open world gacha games would exist it be too much a risk to do. but like also ways hoyoverse has to change the gacha space.
my point is no game like honkai impact 3rd existed before it it was all cheap low quality turn base gacha games
Genshin will destroy Wuwa... It's too late to get into this market and claim Genshin's money. HOYO has Genshin, Star Rail, ZZZ... ZZZ has 2 times more pre-registrations than WW. If WW can’t defeat even little ZZZ, then he may no longer dream of Genshin’s money...
The greedy ghouls from WW are trying to grab too much of his audiences and will be punished for this... They should have only grabbed one audience, for example making a game with 100% anime boys or 100% Waifu.
Now they have doomed themselves and no one will need this game.
@@eddieboston6540we will hear about this covid buff even in the 2030s...
Hey my guy, check azur promilia, if this game release this year or early next year it would go nuts beacuse it checks all what open world arpg enjoyer want, and also it have casual friendly gameplay too
I cant even wait to get my hand on the beta when they announce it
It has no male character
@@Penguin-nx5nc well it's from azur lane devs so... I don't see any problem
@@Saji_0 i see problems from girls audience to how the story is gonna be without men in an openworld game. if there are men in the game, the actual playable men then Azur Promilia will be the best gacha game this year.
@@Penguin-nx5ncIt already has male characters. Just no playable characters.
Also, the most successful banners in Genshin were ones that had female characters, so I don't think that makes the game niche.
Some of you all need to chill out on AP. We have no idea what the gameplay loop even looks like, nobody has publically tested the game, and literally the only thing we can judge the game on is one showcase. So until a beta test is announced and people get to play it, I'm holding my breath.
I still don't get why these CC's love comparing shids. Like what's your goal? Aside from views and dividing the community who favors one and forces another one that the latter is greater than the former? I play PGR, Genshin, Honkai Impact/Star Rail.I enjoy all of these and would also gladly play WuWa, so aside from creating issues. What's your goal????
they had to put genshin in the thumbnail to enrage players who like both game so more views
Im gonna give you another piece of advice you might not be aware at all. Th global community is NOT the american community, PGR suffered a GOD TON of issues you are not aware at all because you were not present when these problems surfaced. Same thing applies to Genshin, people think the Leviathans/Whales/Dolphins come from North America, sometimes yes, sometimes not at fucking all. Also, I'm not sure if you indeed have asian descent but there's a weird hella aspect it exists around the korean and the chinese sphere which are things that are not supposed to be issues at all yet they became so anyways so have fun with that.
I thought most of the whaler's are from china
Nice point about the practice area. I didn't think of it that way.
The real reason why Wuthering Waves will success:
- They know who their player and what they want
- They listen to their player's criticism
The thing that made me always feel Genshin is a wasted potential is because they always try to cater to as many people as possible, turning into a game with a little of everything. It's definitely works when they're monopolizing the market. But unless they try to change their current way, when real competitor like Wuthering Waves, Project Mugen, Arknights Endfield, and even recently announced Azur Promilia out, Genshin is going to stumbled and left behind. Not really to the point of the game is dying or anything, just that it will never see the success it currently has and become the shell of its former glory.
>The real reason why Wuthering Waves will success:
- They know who their player and what they want
- They listen to their player's criticism
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Yes? Then why is PGR not popular and not profitable? After all, they do everything exactly the same way.
@@broccoli5176 Dunno why you asking the obvious when it's an infamous fact that Kuro is really lacking when it comes to their marketing for PGR. So far it doesn't seem like they gonna repeat that mistake with WuWa. Beside hack and slash arpg is more niche than open world arpg. HI3 is made by Mihoyo but sharing the same genre as PGR it's also not as popular nor profitable as its sister game, is it not?
@@thitharaudiya8033He is a Mihoyo whiteknight troll. Pay him no mind, just report.
@@broccoli5176 marketing
@@broccoli5176 bro, don't you know? The reason pgr is at 36th place is -insert excuse here-
Watering waves will succeed precisely because it isn’t a “genshin killer” . At its core it targets the “gamer” audience . Azure promilia on the other hand I think has a better hand a breaking the norms barrier however all the youthful maidens be giving Blue protocol vibes . Additionally I don’t think they’ll even have male characters and there’s a possibility no English VAing .
azure promilia is closer to wuthering waves then genshin impact. in fact it is might end up eating into wuthering waves instead of genshin
@@eddieboston6540 sure bud 😂
@@Gheniel_, it will, because both share the pool of ex genshin players who were just tired of genshin, but azure promilia looks way more appealing to that audience so they are gonna go into that instead. It also has better pokemon system, which is why some people liked wuwa in the first place sooo
About wuwa dethroning genshin, you can never be sure. That's what they thought about star wars, disney and EA. Fast forward a few decades later, all of these things arent making alot of money or people just don't care anymore. Even though I love genshin, theres no such thing as being invincible, unless you're God and I want genshin to get a wake up call for all of our sakes, including their competitors because I don't want genshin to die, no matter how bad it is right now
Ea still making a lot of money selling sports game I guess. They just settled down by making mediocre product.
I wish it the best...if it delivers the best.
Genshin will destroy Wuwa... It's too late to get into this market and claim Genshin's money. HOYO has Genshin, Star Rail, ZZZ... ZZZ has 2 times more pre-registrations than WW. If WW can’t defeat even little ZZZ, then he may no longer dream of Genshin’s money...
The greedy ghouls from WW are trying to grab too much of his audiences and will be punished for this... They should have only grabbed one audience, for example making a game with 100% anime boys or 100% Waifu.
Now they have doomed themselves and no one will need this game.
The echo system not seems to be reworked much, there is still a tromendous RNG in there with all stats being random and amount of these stats is huge, so you basically can farm your set for 24 hours a day and get nothing usefull. Like they gave you more chances to roll but there is still no like substat selectors or smth. Not to mention the 50/50. Like, some form of pity for artifact system needs to be implemented. And, if the meta will be similar to PGRs where you need to build like a team for each element, the 50/50 system on banners is greedy asf
After hearing much of your thoughts, hearing you say you dont care feels weird hahahaha! Why not just say, "you don't have to subscribe but it would be appreciated if you do." I also hope that MHY's mishaps actually opens opportunities to other games.
as in i understamd stuff i say dont resonate with everyone so i don't care if its not everyone's cup of tea.
yh with the recent HSR situation alot of ppl are very concerned as its not just "Genshins dev team" like ppl always say
Mihoyo is still the best one regarding the ability to update their game. At least you get constant annual update. What is the thing mihoyo doesn't deliver?
@@Exoskel2 I don't think anyone is questioning about the updates, they are questioning the content of the updates. You seem like a approx 2-year player, you will start to see it once you reach end game for Genshin at least.
@@MarcSy genshin impact is casual game so of course there is not a lot of things to do in endgame.
@@Exoskel2 I know, been there done that defending a billion-dollar company. Give it more time, you will understand. Don’t forget they are providing you services for money, and there is nothing wrong in articulating any deficiencies you see, more so by paying customers like myself.
besides, there's another new game Azur Promilia shining brighter even than WuWa. Not sure about the release date. It's like genshin + palworld + palia or smth. AND! You can also mount beautiful and cute creatures, you can make them fight for you in a party. I have a feeling it's gonna give a "home" feeling, thanks to the vibes, style and.. game assets :D But still. Gotta try WuWa at least.
Yes, shining so bright my eyes hurt.
Can't play another happy fantasy game anymore I want something different, that's just another fantasy waifu collector.
Oh wow. The advertising really is that scarce.
All the mistakes hoyo is making is slowly leading to people wanting to play other games like pgr and ww
no hoyoverse isn't stupid if the data was showing a massive drop off they do something about it.
sorry but cope harder ya'll a small loud group.
@@eddieboston6540Mihoyo whiteknight bot.
@@eddieboston6540 true but a lot of my friends and people I know are also hopping of genshin so I just said what I’m seeing. I am a fan of genshin but come on 3 wishes in 3 years.
@@eddieboston6540 ?
Based on what ive seen pgr revenue has stagnated for over a year and even alpha didnt manage to break it past hi3 on global
Ww is a skip for me, I don't want to be a part of a fandom thats toxic too,part of being genshin fandom is already hard,pgr is good too,i will stick with that.and arknights Enfield is coming too,for me that looks polished ashell🥴
They're all toxic no matter where you go💀. Just that the bigger something is the more varying amount of people that would be in it 💀
Your loss. You may not be welcomed in WW anyways, given your attitude.
Welcome to the "Genshin could never" crowd
I want to play ww too but after seeing its fandom. Ig its a skip for me
@@lighty2884 every fandom is toxic 💀. Y'all just shouldn't be playing games if your first thought is instead of "will I enjoy this" it's "what is the fandom like?".
"I'm sorry Genshin"
Seriously? Genshin should be the one apologizing for this humiliation.
Watch bro become the doro444 of wuthering waves
Yeah, no shit, its cbt ofCourse they are going to listen to people's feedback you guys act like this is something unheard of.
It's unheard of in Genshin.
@@yomoheiliv6375no, when it was cbt, they generally responded, first impressions are worth a lot so obviously they cared about feedback during launch. Now? Yeah they don’t really respond because they have a massive following and every month, they get like 10s of millions of USD so they don’t care 3 years in. But before the game was launched, they cared.
But the agenda!
Fun fact: the echose still suck. Geting all the substats correct is 5 out 14 which is 1 out of 2002 diffferent combinations. It's 126 in genshin except on goblets (210 on those).
Kuro deserve all the WuWa success. They listen and learn from previous mistakes.
they put in a shit echo system everyone knows is shit and zero reason the devs didn't also know it was shit.
Genshin will destroy Wuwa... It's too late to get into this market and claim Genshin's money. HOYO has Genshin, Star Rail, ZZZ... ZZZ has 2 times more pre-registrations than WW. If WW can’t defeat even little ZZZ, then he may no longer dream of Genshin’s money...
The greedy ghouls from WW are trying to grab too much of his audience and will be punished for this... They should have only grabbed one audience, for example making a game with 100% anime boys or 100% Waifu.
Now they have doomed themselves and no one will need this game.
@@angmar87What a sad Mihoyo whiteknight.
@@yomoheiliv6375 At least he speaks the language of facts. And not in the language of a stupid kuro fanboy
@@yomoheiliv6375 This clown trash clone of Genshin will be destroyed, this game is too stupid to deserve success. We already have HOYO trash games, we don't need another one of these.
Let him be destroyed and start doing something truly different from Genshin.
WW is not a game, but a public toilet, where they are going to make the same clown characters - stupid schoolgirls and millions of anime boys.
And this is exactly what HOYO is doing, which means no one needs WW’s services..
Let's go, Biimow is a PGR believer!
My fave gacha tbh. I wonder if Wuthering Waves can make it second favorite for me.
genshin is dead for anyone non casual the moment wuthering is out. its a casual game and all yada yada yada, they could be more but they won't and don't need to, likewise we non casual players are moving on soon.
Nah. It's more like:
(WW showed up)
Genshin: phew, luckily this is for non casual players. I still have a chanc...
(Azure Promilia shows up)
Genshin: oh f....
@@Breezee80 exactly what i thought. Azur Promilia is the real genshin killer. both WW and Azur are good and i will try the hell out of them lol.
@@nizaarahmadfirdaus8391 lol Azur promi is like LegendNever land so 😂 its never be a g.i killer overhype much?
@@k-BlazeWW30 legend of neverland is BS compared to this. the game is literally genshin copy-paste with not too good graphics and combat mechanics. but this? Azur Promillia is one million time better than genshin. "THE REAL GENSHIN KILLER". casual aspects - checked, combat mechanic - checked, a little bit of hardcore aspects from the boss fight trailer - checked. the only downside is there are no men in the game. you are so blind both eyes and heart if you dont hype to this game. "overhype much?" give me a F ing break LMFAO.. 🤣
@@Breezee80 no WW will fail it's trying to please both hardcore and casual players which is bad and given pgr event cycle the game won't have much to do after the main story.
Azure promilia is closer to WW then genshin but no genshin has 4 to 5 years on it. natlan is dropping this year and the nation of ice next year with the final nation in 2026. genshin has a ten year plan so it has content roadmap until 2030
If this is really a genshin killer genshin may possibly step up their game to compete and do a better job
they 😂 already did Blind?
@@k-BlazeWW30 🤣
It's too late for that, the gacha community left genshin long ago and there are no players left, only casuals and rookies.
@@yomoheiliv6375cope 💀 don't speak for the majority if you don't know anything
@@lighty2884 I know more than you will ever know about genshin and the gacha genre.
There's no elemental reaction, just slashing shooting isn't?
Hi
hello
Combat-focused, yay! And I also really like the color palette. These colors look, idk how to explain it, expensive and sophisticated? And genshin color palette looks like cheap toy plastic. Never liked it
bullshit
Mature tones...which is also my favorite color theme in game like nier and fromsoftware series, genshin trying to target anime group with bright colour which is fine , to each their own
This game has the early 2000s graybroen color plallet. To be fair, it's not as bad as it was before but "expensive"? What the hell are you on about?
@@bencegergohocz5988 well idk, complex and muted colors (not just plain green, but green with a shade of grey/olive/brown etc) really do look sophisticated, because they have more depth to them. Also, expensive brands, interiors of expensive hotels and restaurants tend to have complex, muted colors. That's why these colors are associated with "expensive"
Idc ill still choose genshin
I wa t this game so bad iam so bored kf genshin amd hsr
to do what the same thing in genshin but worse
@@eddieboston6540 lets hope not
Bold bold claim..
what are u smoking mintpicker genshit fanboi mintpicker genshit could never 😂
WRONG!!! Corporate doesn't care about us. Video is irrelevant.
Kuro Games does. This is not Mihoyo.
Why can't you just enjoy both games rather than comparing it literally every single time
Why can't you just accept that Genshin is worse?
@@yomoheiliv6375 lol that is why it is the no. 1 gacha game. Stop comparing the game, kuro whitenight
@@lighty2884 N1 in what, being popular amongst rookies and children like you with no criteria and no experience in the genre? Sure, Mihoho whiteknight.
@@yomoheiliv6375 doesn't change the fact that genshin is more popular than any other gacha game. I'm saying it again, stop comparing the game, you are just making your community looks toxic
@@lighty2884 Doesn't change the fact that genshin is worse than WW, whiteknight.
"The real reason why i'm going to be a millionaire" just dreaming about stuff won't make it a reality. People like you are the reason why devs get harassement and threats, WV devs never compared themselves to genshin or hoyoverse why are you guys involving them in this without their consent ?
All I said was kuro games is handling themselves better than their rival company....
Dude didn't even watch the video
Consent? Wut?😅
Don't treat entire companies like individual people. I'm practically a Kuro shill but even I have to say that at the end of the day, Kuro is a company and that company wants your money. Everything they do, they do to get more money. That's it. They only listen to the playerbase because they deem it more effective in achieving their goals that way.
snowflake, insecure
WW just looks bland to me, while azur seems to have more life to it.
However i seen a loot of devs telling how they will fix or improve game, but dont do crap after due to being rushed by a ceo to make a product ready or other issues.
Personaly i would rather see them do stuff and show how they are improving the game in real time, like some studios show.
Heck just showing a code in processing would be something. Like Palword devs did a while ago.
Its hard to say this game will pull enogh people in as the market is already overcrowded with this type of games as people have limited time to play due to work or school.
Also quitting one free to play game that you already invested is very hard for some people.
I know however that zzzzzzzzz boring next mihoyo game will flop realy hard. And they will probaly do another 5 star like rail and cause more issues with gensin players later calling them greedy and stuff.
One thing however is that CCP may end up causing sabotage in china market to the WW since they are not favored by them.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Punishing:_Gray_Raven
well, I think differently than you, wuwa seems mature and promising to me, azur promilia seems like genshin 2.0 to me. with mounts and seeing so many loli and bright colors made me remember the pedophile community r34 of genshin xD I know Azur Lane and I give that game 2 months to be an ecchi with stagnant gameplay
azur promilia only have waifu but no self-insert MC, which is pretty bad for Parasocial game type.
i know many game died very early due "Player" don't have any role in the story.
Where mens?
"overcrowded"
Where? The only reason I've been playing Genshin until now was the lack of alternatives. Open world single player anime games are pretty rare. Those you can play for 1000s of hours even more so.
ZZZ and WW are the most awaited games on bilibili with over 10 million pre-registration on CN