A New RSV Bible from Thomas Nelson's Sovereign Collection

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  • @Rockthedice
    @Rockthedice 5 місяців тому +30

    Not having the Apocrypha is weird, the RSV crowd and the Apocrypha crowd Venn diagram are close to a circle.

  • @g.esquibel2709
    @g.esquibel2709 5 місяців тому +20

    I have it on preorder! Hope to see an edition with the Apocrypha in the future.

  • @JonnyRaz234
    @JonnyRaz234 5 місяців тому +55

    I feel like the RSV really should come with the Apocrypha/Deuterocanon. I might be wrong, but many if not most denominations that still use the RSV include these books in their canon or view them as profitable for reading. This was one miss in what looks like a great edition.

    • @juliathomas3380
      @juliathomas3380 5 місяців тому +3

      I was given the RSV for my Lutheran confirmation in the 70s. No apocrypha of course. Schuyler sells it both ways though

    • @peterpapoutsis496
      @peterpapoutsis496 5 місяців тому +12

      I agree. As a Greek Orthodox Christian the RSV with the Expanded Apocrypha has been our standard English translation since the late 70s early 80s.

    • @caomhan84
      @caomhan84 5 місяців тому +1

      I would agree, but do you see how thick it is already? It would have been even bigger otherwise. They would have had to change the paper.

    • @DreamcastFarm
      @DreamcastFarm 5 місяців тому +3

      As someone who doesn’t care for the deuterocanon being in my Bible, I am very happy this RSV edition doesn’t have it.

    • @JonnyRaz234
      @JonnyRaz234 5 місяців тому +3

      @@caomhan84 I think I would be fine with it being thicker. It’s not really a personal size anyway. But I take your point. If you want something portable, the Deuterocanon adds some bulk.

  • @GINZO4849
    @GINZO4849 5 місяців тому +12

    I certainly don't need another Bible, but I do have my morning coffee and enjoy listening to a friend share his passion with others. I do like learning about the Bibles he reviews. We are overdue for a 3 Tims show.

  • @Luvmykindle
    @Luvmykindle 24 дні тому +1

    I have an RSV bible from 1962. It’s the Jewel edition study bible with black Persian leather. It’s very nice! 👍 ❤

  • @johnveazey6534
    @johnveazey6534 5 місяців тому +12

    I’m very excited about this and have already preordered one. I love the RSV and this particular edition ticks some of my most important boxes-paragraphed and black letter. I also think drop caps are cool.
    I hope Thomas Nelson keeps it up with the RSV and publishes an edition with the Apocrypha.

    • @peterpapoutsis496
      @peterpapoutsis496 5 місяців тому

      @johnveazey6534 RSV with the Expanded Apocrypha, please! 🙏

  • @scottforesman7968
    @scottforesman7968 5 місяців тому +15

    surprised they don't include the Apocrypha.

  • @richardvoogd705
    @richardvoogd705 4 місяці тому +2

    My new RSV arrived today. I like! The drop caps might take a little getting used to, but I will get there! It has the brown binding, similar to the NKJV and KJV editions I recently purchased. Much nicer than the edition used by my school back in 1972.

  • @_g_r_u_m_p
    @_g_r_u_m_p 5 місяців тому +12

    The zon has genuine leather on pre-order for 72% off right now. Regular $110, on sale for like $31. Fantastic deal I wanted to let you know about.
    Considering it’s the RSV I wish they released a version with apocrypha.

    • @peterpapoutsis496
      @peterpapoutsis496 5 місяців тому +8

      Agreed. The RSV with the Expanded Apocrypha is needed.

  • @michaelfisher18
    @michaelfisher18 5 місяців тому +8

    I wish they’d do a run of the ASV

  • @lonnieclemens8028
    @lonnieclemens8028 2 місяці тому +1

    That is a beautiful bible! I also like the 1952 edition.

  • @slydog7131
    @slydog7131 4 місяці тому +3

    I looked for an RSV bible and couldn't find any on Amazon. Great to see this is now available. Wish it was a red-letter edition. I don't like the NRSV and have been reading the ESV, but I've been wanting a new RSV.

  • @derekgirldad
    @derekgirldad 5 місяців тому +6

    Okay, okay are you ready :)
    I watched the video of your studio tour ❤️ then left the house with my wife to go antique shopping 🛍️ , and! Found and purchased “The original RSV Bible 1952 edition by Thomas Nelson”!!! One of my favorite days of all time 🎉

  • @dekka213l
    @dekka213l 5 місяців тому +6

    NT Wright really turned me on to the RSVs rendering of Romans 8:28 as more contextually sound. Appreciate you Wild.

    • @richardvoogd705
      @richardvoogd705 5 місяців тому +1

      I looked it up. It's an interesting and refreshing rendering.

  • @FredHenry1850
    @FredHenry1850 4 місяці тому +2

    I just finished reading the RSV for myself and decided to give my review of it on my podcast. In short, I really like it!

  • @sambryan5584
    @sambryan5584 5 місяців тому +5

    I'm very excited about this Bible! The seminary I attend still uses the RSV for Bible study, and I had a time trying to find a Protestant edition of this translation. I saved up to buy the Schuyler edition, but that Bible is so nice that I'm afraid to take it out and about.

  • @markouellette788
    @markouellette788 5 місяців тому +3

    Very nice. I have an old copy of the RSV The Oxford Annotated Bible which I have been enjoying that I will need to have rebounded.

  • @mfacundo7
    @mfacundo7 4 місяці тому +1

    The Sovereign Collection rivals Crossways Bibles. Great edition.

  • @DMMcDonald
    @DMMcDonald 5 місяців тому +5

    I have the KJV and the NKJV in Leather soft, but genuine leather is only $30 so I got that one. My grandmother, who just passed at 95 two months ago, used the RSV. She was German and a devout Lutheran all of her life.

    • @richardvoogd705
      @richardvoogd705 5 місяців тому

      I have a single column KJV and a double column NKJV, both with end of verse references, similar covers, and font size, but not from the Sovereign collection. I'm looking forward to the copy I've ordered of the RSV edition featured here.

  • @Digable.
    @Digable. 5 місяців тому +8

    We need a new Bible draft for 2024 with the three Tims!

  • @jeffbenson6568
    @jeffbenson6568 5 місяців тому

    Beautiful - the RSV was my first Bible the church I grew up in gave me at confirmation. It’s the first Bible I read all the way through. A few. Years later I got the NIV (‘84) and that became my go to bible for about 10 years, then the ESV came out and the church I attended at the time switched to the ESV. Now I am a lover of many translations and rotate reading them - a subset includes LSB (new favorite for me), ESV, NIV, CSB, BSB, NLT, NET TLV, RSV, and NRSV.

  • @monopolylife
    @monopolylife 5 місяців тому +4

    I have ordered one on Amazon in Black genuine leather. Due out the 13th of August. Was 70% off regular price of $109., free prime shipping. Paid $30 plus tax.

  • @nickcasenta5651
    @nickcasenta5651 3 місяці тому

    Thank you Tim

  • @cjbtantay
    @cjbtantay 5 місяців тому +1

    The Sovereign Collection has to be hands down underrated. It's a great feeling bible with raised spine hubs, excellent formatting... for 20ish bucks

  • @elshuku1
    @elshuku1 5 місяців тому +1

    I cant wait for your book Tim so i can learn more about these translations.

  • @sannyyou
    @sannyyou 5 місяців тому

    I recently got a RSV and am excited to read it alongside other translations I’m blessed with ❤

  • @LBCBrandon
    @LBCBrandon 5 місяців тому +1

    Can’t wait to get my hands on one. I’ve been looking forward to it for awhile!

  • @bobcollier4540
    @bobcollier4540 5 місяців тому +1

    I preordered the genuine leather one from Amazon for $30, 70% off. Great deal.
    The leather version is paste off also, which has a looser gutter than the edge lined for Thomas Nelson.

  • @chrisanderson6330
    @chrisanderson6330 5 місяців тому

    My parents gave me a RSV Bible when I got baptized in 1977. I still enjoy reading it. However, about 20 years ago, I thought by putting it in a Bible cover would help protect it but the opposite happened. I’ve enjoyed seeing the rebound Bibles you’ve had done. Now I need to get up the courage to send my Bible away to be rebound. I’m not sure how you did it, sending that precious Bible of your aunt’s and entrust it to someone else’s care but y hey did an amazing job.

  • @susanmrsmc
    @susanmrsmc 5 місяців тому +1

    Great review!! Definitely need to check out this translation!

  • @jonburnett4950
    @jonburnett4950 5 місяців тому

    I love those book intros. From the ones I’ve seen shots of, they’re the same as in that classic Nelson NKJV Slimline Reference that was also licensed to Holman. I also really like the mixed Canterbury-esque columns. It would be nice to see a side-by-side with the RSV Quentel. Thanks Tim! ✌️🤓

  • @WarEagle1957
    @WarEagle1957 5 місяців тому +1

    Love the RSV Bible, but I’m waiting for Cambridge or Schuyler to hopefully do something new. Would love a Diadem or PSQ in the RSV!

  • @allanp3065
    @allanp3065 4 місяці тому +1

    Thanks for the review. My RSV I've had since 1964 is falling apart...
    While I want to rebind it, this will do short term
    ..

  • @nonielee5133
    @nonielee5133 5 місяців тому

    Mine arrived today. I love it!

  • @j-riginal3324
    @j-riginal3324 4 місяці тому

    Badalassi Carlo!❤

  • @SWORDofGOD
    @SWORDofGOD 5 місяців тому +7

    No option with the Apocrypha I guess?

    • @peterpapoutsis496
      @peterpapoutsis496 5 місяців тому +8

      I hope Thomas Nelson issues an edition of the RSV with the Expanded Apocrypha soon.

    • @mehmeh217
      @mehmeh217 4 місяці тому +2

      @@peterpapoutsis496 If they did I would buy it in a heartbeat. The sovereign edition is beautiful

  • @movdqa
    @movdqa 5 місяців тому +2

    It still looks pretty big for a personal-sized Bible. This looks good for a night stand. The print and layout looks fine for a reading Bible. Do they have a study version? I'm mildly motivated to do a video on what I think a personal Bible should be.

  • @justindeharlingen
    @justindeharlingen 5 місяців тому +2

    If you want the Catholic canon, TN/CBP is coming out with a RSV2CE Thinline. I think TN is testing the market with these two. Perhaps if they do well enough, they'll publish the ecumenical canon as well.

  • @carmennooner2027
    @carmennooner2027 5 місяців тому +1

    I noticed that, even though it has a paragraph format, the verse numbers are in their red, making them easier to find. I really wish more publishers would start bolding verse numbers or use a different color. It really makes it so much easier to use in a church setting. I agree with you about the faint black printing. It does look more gray to the eye.

  • @bonnie5972
    @bonnie5972 5 місяців тому

    Love those drop caps. ❤

  • @philr3381
    @philr3381 5 місяців тому +3

    Just when I thought I didn't need another Bible Thomas Nelson comes out with a beautiful RSV. This bible definitely caused serious controversy when it was first published

    • @peterpapoutsis496
      @peterpapoutsis496 5 місяців тому +1

      @philr3381 Now, it is viewed as a solid conservative English translation that the vast majority of Non-Evangelical Christians have grown up using and loving.

  • @sluggo562
    @sluggo562 5 місяців тому

    Love the drop caps. Wish is was single column, and the genuine leather option in brown or any colour other than black.

  • @JesusLovesYouPerfectly
    @JesusLovesYouPerfectly 5 місяців тому +1

    John does have at least one parable, it's the Good Shepherd parable in chapter 10

  • @marcusaurelius8605
    @marcusaurelius8605 5 місяців тому

    Thanks! Great intro and review

  • @loisfraser9913
    @loisfraser9913 5 місяців тому

    I have preordered the purple Rsv version Bible on Amazon so excited

  • @lizardwanderer
    @lizardwanderer 5 місяців тому +1

    I like the drop caps!

  • @reformedpilgrim
    @reformedpilgrim 4 місяці тому

    I have the NKJV edition of that. It’s not bad. The edges of the pages are a bit off, but the font is good and bold. Very readable.

  • @pax-domini
    @pax-domini 5 місяців тому +7

    This is an odd release by Thomas Nelson publishers. I personally don't know of any extant churches that still use the original RSV ('71) translation. They either use the NRSVue (mainline Protestant), NRSV-CE (liberal Catholic), ESV (evangelical Protestant), ESV-CE (traditional Catholic), or RSV-2CE (traditional Catholic). If Eastern Orthodox were to use the RSV, it'd only be if it included the Deuterocanonical Books; which this edition lacks.
    The one person on the Internet who has helped re-popularize the classic RSV is youtuber R. Grant Jones, which he prefers for its use of mid-20th century modern English (e.g. rentention of the generic "he" instead of "one" or "they"). As an Anglican, he in particular has endorsed the RSV New Oxford Annotated Bible with Apocrypha.

    • @scottmcmullen6782
      @scottmcmullen6782 2 дні тому

      People can read and prefer a translation even if it's not used at their church.

  • @pambonbrake2230
    @pambonbrake2230 5 місяців тому

    Congrats on your book.

  • @DreamcastFarm
    @DreamcastFarm 5 місяців тому

    I preordered the brown indexed edition. Can’t wait

  • @kimgoodson1969
    @kimgoodson1969 5 місяців тому +1

    I love the red accents! I have the Sovereign KJV.

  • @AnamLiath
    @AnamLiath 5 місяців тому +2

    You opened to Joshua 5, which I just finished studying this morning!
    I like single column as a general rule for all text, not just the poetry.

  • @pambonbrake2230
    @pambonbrake2230 5 місяців тому

    Looks mighty fine.

  • @gungasam3000
    @gungasam3000 5 місяців тому

    I just pre ordered the purple one :)

  • @sandersdca
    @sandersdca 5 місяців тому +2

    I may get one of these. I have an RSV Quentel but I keep finding little typos in it which is very disappointing. I found two in Deuteronomy just last week.

    • @flowerlass
      @flowerlass 5 місяців тому +1

      I was disappointed in the typos, too!! It makes me not want to order from Schuyler.

    • @sannyyou
      @sannyyou 5 місяців тому

      Oh no! I just got the rsv quentel too, but havent started on it. aw well 😂

    • @sandersdca
      @sandersdca 5 місяців тому +1

      @@sannyyou fortunately the typos are hard to spot, usually just a missing letter like "you" instead of "your".

  • @richardvoogd705
    @richardvoogd705 5 місяців тому +1

    I like! I have a couple of copies of the RSV dating from the early 1970s. The new edition has piqued my interest.
    Edit: I don't really NEED a new Bible but have ordered a copy. Now to wait patiently for it to arrive.

  • @maureenharrah931
    @maureenharrah931 5 місяців тому

    New Bible to me.

  • @TradWolverine
    @TradWolverine 5 місяців тому +4

    Is it really a “personal” size bible???

  • @douglasj2254
    @douglasj2254 4 місяці тому +1

    Thank for the video.
    I heard you mention a lot about ink, red drop caps, etc. but not whether this edition is line matched. Forgive me if I missed it, but is it line matched?
    Also, did they use the 1952 or 1971 RSV edition?
    Thanks and be well.

  • @ballietoflexheim
    @ballietoflexheim 3 місяці тому

    I have 5 copies of the 1952 RSV by fifferent publishers ...3 NELSON..1 MELTON..1 WORLD. Is this new printing by Nelson using the 1952 text or the updated text of 1971? The Schuyler RSV uses the 1971 text.

  • @jabames
    @jabames 2 місяці тому

    Need an Orthodoxy Study bible version in sovereign without the study part or an RSV w/Apocrypha

  • @j-riginal3324
    @j-riginal3324 4 місяці тому

    Hey Tim I know I'm kinda late on the entry but I could really use a smaller yet legible Bible for my sling. I've tried fitting my NLT Thinline into it before I go out to evangilize in my neighborhood but whenever I take it out, some of the corners get bent, both cover and page. I'd also rather use That than the NKJV because though it's small enough to fit properly, when I tried to read some scripture I could barely get through it. That's why I would much rather have that ESV Badalassi Carlo so I can actually read it for myself when I'm alone. Please help🙏

  • @shannonmiller5618
    @shannonmiller5618 5 місяців тому

    I think that at this point, out of all the Bibles you have reviewed on this channel, this one has been the most recent.

  • @mikepowers7207
    @mikepowers7207 3 місяці тому

    Great review as always, Tim! A couple of things: I recently purchased the RSV Sovereign Collection Bible in black genuine leather, and my copy has a paste-down liner. Also, I haven't noticed any fading of the text on the page. Everything looks black and pops of the page as Comfort Print should. Perhaps you got a copy with faded print? Just wondering...

  • @jakesegars
    @jakesegars 5 місяців тому

    Pretty sure they did a paste down liner for genuine leather this time to move the text out of the gutter.

  • @admcmahon2
    @admcmahon2 5 місяців тому +1

    First off, "yes" to @GINZO4849- we are way overdue on the Three Tims!!! Now back to the review. I have been impressed how publishers are making very nice, beautiful, affordable bindings of many different Bibles. I have the Schuyler RSV Q w/o Apocrypha. This Thomas Nelson copy is very Q ish in the text block! LOL! Well thought out and put together! Thanks for the review Tim Wildsmith!!

  • @BV35
    @BV35 5 місяців тому

    I enjoyed the video - Can you recommend a Catholic Version of the a PERSONAL Sized Bible to carry as an EDC? I don’t need all the maps extra comments just the Word of God.. Thank you !

  • @mchaywood83
    @mchaywood83 5 місяців тому

    How does the synthetic leather hold up compared to the trutone that crossway does or the synthetic holmans?

  • @JesusLovesYouPerfectly
    @JesusLovesYouPerfectly 5 місяців тому

    that would be a great bible to have sent off and rebound in a nice Meriva Calfskin

  • @Johncheng202
    @Johncheng202 5 місяців тому

    Pre-ordered your book. 😉

  • @galwithamal7960
    @galwithamal7960 5 місяців тому +1

    Why do so many different Bible translations / Bible retailers not offer the words of Christ in red? Personally, I really like for my bibles to have this.

    • @realpapamorty
      @realpapamorty 5 місяців тому

      I agree.
      I grew up with it and it’s pretty classic.

  • @jakesegars
    @jakesegars 4 місяці тому

    I got mine yesterday. Sadly the cover has two cuts in the leather so I’m getting a replacement. I also noticed the printing is very uneven. Some pages are very dark and rich, and some look like the ink was running out. Hopefully just a fluke on this one. I have the nkjv personal size sovereign and it’s perfect. I’ll report back when I get the replacement. Anyone else who bought this one have this uneven print issue?

  • @lonnieclemens8028
    @lonnieclemens8028 2 місяці тому

    Will Tim Nickel read all three of those bibles that he bought?

  • @glennosjv
    @glennosjv 5 місяців тому

    If this came with the deuterocanonicals/apocrypha I’d order multiple copies

  • @pastorabrambagunu
    @pastorabrambagunu 5 місяців тому

    Awhile back I found a copy of the 1952 RSV from Nelson you showed (a little bit more used copy than yours though) any ideas where I can get more info about that printing/edition etc?

    • @timwildsmith
      @timwildsmith  5 місяців тому

      Not sure... try googling it and see if you can find any articles.

    • @jeffcarlson3269
      @jeffcarlson3269 4 місяці тому

      @@timwildsmith
      Hi Tim... just wanted to help you out for future usage ... the word is pronounced "In-TAY- gral"... accent on the "tay"..... Not "IN-tu-gral" accenting the "In"...
      just an FYI

    • @jeffcarlson3269
      @jeffcarlson3269 4 місяці тому

      @@timwildsmith
      and also... You probably already know this,,, but...
      Nelson Publishing is notorious for their terribly un even printing..
      You REALLY should make your listeners aware of this fault of Nelsons... on many occasions.
      .especially when it comes to their red lettering...
      most of the bibles that I own that are published by Thomas Nelson.. .. have pages within the same bible that are printed darker than others ..shading wise..
      in fact years ago... when I had a KJV study bible re bound.. I chose to re bind a Bonded Leather one On purpose.... specifically because the print in the Bonded leather edition of that bible was darker than the Genuine leather print was in the same bible printing ..
      in the bonded leather edition the maps "popped" of the pages because they were so Dark.. against the white borders... in the Genuine leather?.. not so much..

  • @Manateesmile66
    @Manateesmile66 5 місяців тому

    Very nice Bible! I wonder how it compares to the KJV. I would like to in investigate this Bible. So maybe my Catholic friends use this? I will have to ask! ☺️🙏🏼Thank you Tim!

  • @mugglescakesniffer3943
    @mugglescakesniffer3943 5 місяців тому

    I have a huge print NIV that is honkin size compared to this bible. I duct taped it hot pink cause it was falling apart so I guess this would be personal sized.

  • @itssammierose
    @itssammierose 5 місяців тому

    I wish this was red letter

  • @nicknakpaddyman
    @nicknakpaddyman 5 місяців тому

    I know I gave you a little ribbing about not being Tim Nickels, but I guess you have also had to acknowledge it in your own video. :(
    Looking forward to your book. Hoping I can join that book to a list of recommendations to others as I have with other useful books on discipleship adjacent needs of the Church today.

  • @Grantf0330
    @Grantf0330 5 місяців тому

    Tim
    Is this only available in Personal Size??? Will they be releasing a “full or reg size”

    • @timwildsmith
      @timwildsmith  5 місяців тому

      I have not seen any others on their release schedule.

  • @kipling1957
    @kipling1957 5 місяців тому

    So, not the NRSV?

  • @johnritter5951
    @johnritter5951 4 місяці тому

    Time has moved us along, so perhaps most people today do not know that the RSV came to be identified with the liberal mainline Protestant denominations, who, when the NRSV came out, switched to it (to the extent that liberal mainline Protestants read the Bible at all.)
    Attending a Lutheran seminary back in the 70s, the New Oxford Annotated RSV was required for our classwork. It was the annotations that contained all the material deriving from the "critical" approach to the Bible.
    The RSV was also notorious for having demoted the KJV's "virgin" in Isaiah 7:14 to merely "a young woman," thus weakening the notion of the virgin birth. It made it appear that the New Testament authors were embellishing Isaiah to invent the virgin birth.
    Bottom line: in as much as mainline people don't read much Bible, and evangelicals who do ... would not buy an RSV, I'll be surprised if many of these are sold by Nelson.

    • @scottmcmullen6782
      @scottmcmullen6782 2 дні тому

      I don't think many will be sold, but there are some of us "backward/traditional" mainline Protestants that prefer the RSV to the NRSV or ESV. There are many editions available of the NRSV and ESV, but there is little competition for editions of the RSV, particularly Protestant canon RSV's.

  • @metal_bloo
    @metal_bloo 5 місяців тому

    Genuine Leather- It is not edge lined boo

  • @clintparker
    @clintparker 5 місяців тому +1

    This is a good version, but my one complaint is I don't like black letter editions. I think the words of Christ should always be red

  • @2Snakes
    @2Snakes 5 місяців тому +2

    READ THE BIBLE YOU HAVE FOLKS :)

  • @kipling1957
    @kipling1957 5 місяців тому +1

    Synthetic leather. A quintessential modern oxymoron. Epitomizes everything that subverts truth and authenticity in our age. The irony is palpable.

  • @kipling1957
    @kipling1957 5 місяців тому

    Such a left-brained review. The most important quality, the poetry of the language, is but a footnote.

  • @allanvann218
    @allanvann218 5 місяців тому

    STAY WITH , KJV........