The Tech Quotes scandal doesn't surprise me

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КОМЕНТАРІ • 213

  • @techquotes
    @techquotes Рік тому +1372

    Many thanks, Linus and Luke, for raising awareness of our campaign in detail and providing your honest opinion on the matter; your position of standing against these practices, and shedding light on the importance of staying together as a whole community, really gives us a big chance to reform our media standards. I also have to give a big thanks to all of the LTT channel viewers who showed us sincere words of support after the last WAN show; we have been big fans of your outstanding content since 2012, and we hope that one day we will get to know all about you guys in person. Have a great day.
    #Respect_ME_PC_Community

    • @spencerwren1755
      @spencerwren1755 Рік тому +40

      Good luck guys, I’m it’s awesome seeing a united front that stands up for the users.

    • @BensWatchClub
      @BensWatchClub Рік тому +32

      Great job for standing up for what's right 👍

    • @somegamememes3246
      @somegamememes3246 Рік тому +16

      our campaign has reached linus yayyyy.........may man
      #Respect_ME_PC_Community

    • @roji556
      @roji556 Рік тому

      No one cares. Literally every review in all industries is paid for or just someone shilling. Yes that includes LTT/LMG even though they say they’re not.

    • @uchihasasuke7436
      @uchihasasuke7436 Рік тому +2

      @@BensWatchClub woah ben here?

  • @Reidbit
    @Reidbit Рік тому +362

    Linus should address this on the main channel. People should submit evidence of shitty practices and those companies should be called out. That kind of shit is ridiculous.
    Edit: and Linus is one of the few channels who can actually stand up to these giant companies. As Luke said, others may not have the “freedom” to do so because it may jeopardize their livelihoods.
    Edit edit: fixed spellings because of my big dumb thumbs.

    • @pasmado75
      @pasmado75 Рік тому +6

      this is a clip from the WAN Show which is from the main channel

    • @Reidbit
      @Reidbit Рік тому +19

      @@pasmado75 you know what I meant. A dedicated video to the topic.. not a podcast that most won’t see.

    • @kg4wwn
      @kg4wwn Рік тому +2

      @@Reidbit NOt the person you were replying to, but I didn't know what you meant until you spelled it out. I mostly just watch the WAN show so I don't think of the main thing I watch "not being on the main channel"

    • @Reidbit
      @Reidbit Рік тому +3

      @@kg4wwn no worries I always forget that Linus puts the wan show on the main channel.. most folks don’t do that with podcast style content and since Linus has a bunch of channels anyways I just blanked and thought it wasn’t on the big boi one.

    • @SpiiiiiceeMAN
      @SpiiiiiceeMAN Рік тому

      Linus can upload a video about a tech company and that companys stocks plummet to the ground like a stack of cards

  • @Voltaic_Fire
    @Voltaic_Fire Рік тому +119

    They could always send the data from LTT Labs to reviewers that have been black listed for doing the right thing. It is not as good as having the product themselves but it would help.

    • @MrSevenup14
      @MrSevenup14 Рік тому +11

      it’s not gonna be fun or fulfilling it’s gonna reading charts only

    • @Voltaic_Fire
      @Voltaic_Fire Рік тому +7

      @@MrSevenup14 I don't see a problem with that, I'm there to get information. I trust the LTT data to be comprehensive and getting a chuckle from the video is nice but not a necessity.

    • @SillyLittleMe
      @SillyLittleMe Рік тому +12

      @@Voltaic_Fire But it will just be repetitive. Most people might prefer watching it on LTT itself rather than on other channels that are going to show the same graph as LTT. Apart from that, the cost of them buying this data after each hardware released would be much more than if they did the testing themselves in the long run. Plus, having different people test these can balance out the faults of some channels review. For example, recent LTT video of 4090 gave wrong values for Cyber Punk interms of fps which was not seen by other channels ,because of which we could deduce that LTT review for that was wrong, which they admitted later.

    • @MrSevenup14
      @MrSevenup14 Рік тому +2

      @@Voltaic_Fire for you yeah maybe but for the content creatore? it's gonna be hell not doing what they love and be a reader machine for someone else and that's gonna reflect on hosting the videos

    • @Voltaic_Fire
      @Voltaic_Fire Рік тому +1

      @@MrSevenup14 You make a fair point.

  • @awareqwx
    @awareqwx Рік тому +3

    Well, on the plus side, if those lights were a Pantone color, they'll just appear black anyway and that company won't have anything to worry about.

  • @GlorifiedGremlin
    @GlorifiedGremlin Рік тому +52

    I mean the primary reason LTT has grown into the titan that it has, is because the team built their whole brand around integrity and honesty. That's literally all we want, is someone to HONESTLY tell us what products are like, and sad to say, that's hard to find these days

  • @kamw8860
    @kamw8860 Рік тому +3

    Honest reviews are priceless. Thank you.

  • @jamescritchlow3445
    @jamescritchlow3445 Рік тому +1

    I love how Linus is more than willing to stand up for the little guy.

  • @TheRogueWolf
    @TheRogueWolf Рік тому +4

    There's one thing that could be done: Viewers could give their views to thorough, independent reviews that maybe take a little while to come out, instead of flocking to whoever has the earliest video. But that would require patience and resisting the desire to have the New Shiny Thing right now, so it'll never happen.

  • @spannerwindslayer
    @spannerwindslayer Рік тому

    In Chile, the TV channel "Chilevisión" puts in every day an "article" featuring "the future now", in escence a big 10 mins ad for Samsung tech.
    Samsung doesn't even support chile that much for example, to use Bixby, reporters have to talk in english to the devices to work, is just hilarious.
    Worst part, every 3 weeks they repeat the article like it is new.

  • @Freak80MC
    @Freak80MC Рік тому +2

    Companies: "How do we get better reviews? By making a good product? ... Nahhhh let's just strongarm our way into a good review, that will work!"

    • @jeremydale4548
      @jeremydale4548 Рік тому

      Anyone with an actual brain: No, it will not work. Because it's stupid

  • @phidostik
    @phidostik Рік тому

    My local news did a segment on the return of taco bell nacho fries. Felt like an ad the entire time.

  • @My1xT
    @My1xT Рік тому +1

    oh yeah the venus veil, still absolutely hilarious, and as a German who likes a LOT of dark humor I was obviously surprised when they mentioned german technology from 80 years ago XD

  • @strix9013
    @strix9013 Рік тому +2

    Samsung and alienware. Maybe they shouldn't have designed the backing to look exactly the same.

  • @croozerdog
    @croozerdog Рік тому

    I almost thought he was really there, good editing

  • @GlorifiedGremlin
    @GlorifiedGremlin Рік тому +1

    12:00 yeah I think the point is, despite being in their bad book, they're still FORCED to do business with you because of your size and influence

  • @Fireholder1
    @Fireholder1 Рік тому

    "Why does this keep happening?"
    Because, for the most part, it works for them.

  • @DarkKitarist
    @DarkKitarist Рік тому

    I can't wait to have ads poured directly into my brain. The future is almost here!

  • @hunn20004
    @hunn20004 Рік тому

    I'd understand if a manufacturer didn't want their product placed next to a product that they weren't competing against.
    Like intel and 5800x3d or AMD and the 5800x3d....
    Ye if you're still on am4 and 1000, 2000 Ryzen get that instead of a new 7000 CPU

  • @phynx2006
    @phynx2006 Рік тому

    "Rage Loudly" nice one Luke 👍👍 sounds like a new game 🤔

  • @nene71286
    @nene71286 Рік тому +5

    As you say. We keep being censored and letting us know what can we say or not. It has just extended to the digital platforms.

  • @lcrilley93
    @lcrilley93 Рік тому +2

    Linus keep doing what your doing these companies need to be called out your buissness team is Linus' shield and Linus is your communities spear to fight back and now it sounds weird not really much of a tech guy but Ive learned a bit just watching y'all

  • @gregbits6109
    @gregbits6109 Рік тому

    No tech company ever sent a tech reviewer products till they had the audience.

  • @GavinSeim
    @GavinSeim Рік тому +5

    Every top tier tech reviewer needs to get together and cancel all Nvidia reviews for a year. They will never throw these tantrums again after that 👌

    • @flintfrommother3gaming
      @flintfrommother3gaming Рік тому +3

      That is such a bad idea, who are they gonna compare cards against. AMD and Intel?
      If you are just talking about reviews I agree but if it's against even comparison then no.

    • @Gnarfendorf
      @Gnarfendorf Рік тому

      @@flintfrommother3gaming it might not be a good solution, but honestly, what else would you do? Its the same with shitty games, they only get away with it because people keep buying them like idiots. If nobody shows them the middlefinger that has at least some clout it will only get worse and worse. Its bad enough that people bought the overpriced fire hazzard called 4090, as long as dogshit like that works nothing is gonna change for the better...

    • @flintfrommother3gaming
      @flintfrommother3gaming Рік тому

      @@Gnarfendorf People buy it for a reason (or sometimes the exact opposite), it has propreitary technologies that are actually much better (artificially inflated with Nvidia paying software to use them but still) like CUDA that AMD and Intel doesn't own. If you are an average Joe and don't use any of them and just want to hop in to some gaming action you are just ignorant of your options and deserve the cons of Nvidia to be honest.
      It's a shame really, they aren't a good company but people still choose them because "nVeNc" with their 1 follower Twitch channel.

    • @Gnarfendorf
      @Gnarfendorf Рік тому

      @@flintfrommother3gaming ofc they buy them for a reason, the reason is just bs in most cases, thats the problem. People just buy the new shiny toy regardless if its actually worth it, brainless consumerism at its finest.

    • @flintfrommother3gaming
      @flintfrommother3gaming Рік тому +1

      @@Gnarfendorf I saw your response in my inbox, I agree with you though I pointed it out in my comment.

  • @RadicalEdwardStudios
    @RadicalEdwardStudios Рік тому

    Create a media friendliness and honestly rating, and create metrics around attempted interference vs media honesty & freedom, retaliation, attempts to skirt advertising rules [eg "make a fake review but read our script"], etc. Publish it. Make it clear to anyone, whenever it comes up, where companies you've interacted with sit on the scale.

  •  Рік тому

    Hardware raytracing is both supercool and not a big deal. So both HU and you are right. :D

  • @BoltRM
    @BoltRM Рік тому

    Are PC hardware co's threatening to send MBS to make you disappear?

  • @MC-qu9jw
    @MC-qu9jw Рік тому

    UA-cam reviews, amazon reviews, basically all reviews, have been basically useless for most products for at least 5 years now unless you already knew channels well before then that are still running and have some trust remaining. Bought and owned by marketing departments, we live in a sad timeline.

  • @tshinharR
    @tshinharR Рік тому

    I can't really understand why those corporations are doing that.
    I completely agree that if they are not happy with someone they can stop sending them stuff (I never got anything for free in my entire life and I am not crying about it)
    But trying to force someone to change their opinion on something is stupid.
    If you don't like them or you think they are not being fair don't work with them.

    • @zhen86
      @zhen86 Рік тому

      Easy, 98% of the people saw a product on shelves, then look up reviews on UA-cam and only saw good reviews then most likely it will become a sale.

  • @opiniononion919
    @opiniononion919 Рік тому

    He said "hardon" =D

  • @kylestewart4444
    @kylestewart4444 Рік тому

    I disagree that a company deciding not to send products to certain review channels early on is a direct attack on the channel owner’s livelihood. If a company doesn’t like the way you cover their products, I see nothing wrong with them removing you from the pre-launch review-copy list.
    It might feel like an attack but companies are under no obligation to send out early samples of their products. I do think that it is generally best for the consumers when thorough, honest reviewers are given the opportunity to review products before launch but it is by no means necessary. No one has to buy products on day one. If there were no such thing as early access review samples, potential buyers could easily just wait until reviewers are able to buy or borrow a product and create a review before the customers make their purchasing decisions. Companies handing these products out to reviewers weeks before launch is by no means obligatory. They have the right to do whatever they want with their own products and they can work with or choose not to work with anyone they want.

  • @samih1201
    @samih1201 Рік тому

    Hypetrains create this kind phenomenons. If people at large wait for the actual tech shipped to consumers and independent honest reviewers to prove itself companys will start to focus on what actually matters.
    No preorders my dudes.

  • @unitedhybrid187
    @unitedhybrid187 Рік тому

    I think helping out smaller creators somehow is a great idea!

  • @rfourie
    @rfourie Рік тому

    I know I'm late to this video, but could LTT Labs do the testing of embargoed hardware on behalf of smaller creators and then give them the results to review?

    • @DanKaschel
      @DanKaschel Рік тому

      No. It would constitute breach of contract.

  • @VenomKen
    @VenomKen Рік тому

    What you do as a tech review community is not cover their products. No one reviews them. Force them to spend their own money marketing their product.

  • @The_main_andrew
    @The_main_andrew Рік тому

    I will not buy a product if there isn’t an independent review. How do brands not understand this

  • @5urg3x
    @5urg3x Рік тому

    Legit Q: how hard would it be to change the light color in post to be what they wanted?

    • @nikkiofthevalley
      @nikkiofthevalley Рік тому +2

      I'm not sure it's possible. Hue shifting an object is easy enough, hue shifting light is extremely difficult to impossible, as it isn't in a specific area or even a specific hue, the light takes on part of the color of stuff it bounces off of. This completely breaks all methods of hue shifting that I know of.

    • @pixels_per_inch
      @pixels_per_inch Рік тому +3

      For some colors it is possible, but considering the light was red, it's probably impossible to change it without altering the color of human skin.

  • @parkerjeon720
    @parkerjeon720 Рік тому +2

    It's either LG or Samsung lol

  • @XTr3m3b4sh
    @XTr3m3b4sh Рік тому

    Companies that pull shit like this need to be publically shamed and bashed for it. Not everybody working for Nvidia or Intel is an asshole, but public shaming is the only way these big corps will actually listen and change things.

  • @bluegizmo1983
    @bluegizmo1983 Рік тому

    I know reviewers always say it's better to have pre launch review samples to make videos on because if you had to wait and buy the product on store shelves, then there's no point because everyone else who actually got review samples will already have their videos out. However, if everyone else (or even most of them) are being manipulated by the hardware maker to release favorable reviews, then I think you'd be better off buying the product and releasing a late review because then everyone knows for absolutely sure your not being manipulated for a favorable review, because hardware makes can't stop you from saying whatever you want at that point...

    • @ayoCC
      @ayoCC Рік тому

      my humble opinion:
      Ban early reviews entirely, all who engage in early review should be fined 10% of their yearly international revenue and 20% on repeat offense, just a simple EU fine - oh both the company AND the reviewers.
      Let everyone get the item at the same time, and those who are the best content creators will be the ones with the most success, not the ones hand picked by the company.
      Things that may or may work if you can create fair regulations:
      - Limited presale, give control of a limited sample to at least 10 3rd party sellers who then sell it for maybe a bit of a premium. And again to regulate, the fine is 10% of international revenue, 20% on repeat offense.

    • @sovietmoose5624
      @sovietmoose5624 Рік тому

      @@ayoCC wait punish reviewers for companies being shitty?

    • @ayoCC
      @ayoCC Рік тому

      @@sovietmoose5624 stop the practice altogether to not have anyone release product reviews before other people can, gaining an unfair market advantage.
      Also to prevent loopholes where some reviewers might have an early look

  • @mikaeo23
    @mikaeo23 Рік тому

    This isnt different cultural norms. Its that some companies are deceitful, and they don't like being publicly called on that, cuz of course a liar doesn't want to be revealed.

  • @lezlienewlands1337
    @lezlienewlands1337 Рік тому

    I mean, if there's no push-back from the community, they aren't going to have any motivation to change their ways.

  • @VenomKen
    @VenomKen Рік тому

    That can only be Samsung or LG.

  • @nene71286
    @nene71286 Рік тому +1

    News is the way corporate / Government. promotes their agenda

  • @uncirtyne
    @uncirtyne Рік тому +2

    15:24 That's just...illegal right?

    • @nikkiofthevalley
      @nikkiofthevalley Рік тому

      I'm not sure if it's actually against the law or if the FAA (can't remember if it's the FAA that governs radio and broadcasts, or some other federal organization) would fine you. I'm fairly sure it isn't, and you just get fined by the FAA.

  • @ayoCC
    @ayoCC Рік тому

    Just fucking ban early sample sending.
    What's the point, let everyone get the Item at the same time, those who want to make sure they're getting the best value for their buck will wait for the first trustworthy reviewers.

  • @eldibs
    @eldibs Рік тому +2

    Tech Company - "You okay Linus?" Linus - "Yeah, just an aneurysm out of sheer stupidity." Tech Company - "Wow, I didn't know you were that stupid, Linus." Linus - **screams**

  • @grss1982
    @grss1982 Рік тому

    NGL. I was not expecting a reference to John Oliver on an LMG clip. :D Anyway, was Linus referring to this particular LWT episode? ua-cam.com/video/sIi_QS1tdFM/v-deo.html

  • @NavySturmGewehr
    @NavySturmGewehr Рік тому

    Oh you mean like, having an opinion that is contrary to the approved narrative?
    I find it a bit rich coming from you Linus, considering the kinds of censorship that goes on with your forum.

  • @KevanWalter
    @KevanWalter Рік тому

    Not that he's entirely wrong but I wouldn't trust John Oliver anymore then I could toss his ass. He's shown he cares more about his narratives and ratings then objectivity. That's not a person you can take at face value without extensive personal research.

  • @VenomKen
    @VenomKen Рік тому

    Yet another reason to never buy Apple products...

  • @willdabeast6503
    @willdabeast6503 Рік тому +4

    Linus, news is classified as entertainment. Which means outside of libel, slander and such, the news really isn’t regulated. The validity of their content really isn’t regulated.

    • @microsf121
      @microsf121 Рік тому +3

      Ok, then what is UA-cam? Is that entertainment?

    • @willdabeast6503
      @willdabeast6503 Рік тому +2

      @@microsf121 I am talking about federal guidelines for TV. News is entertainment meaning for example, they aren’t legally bound to tell the truth.
      Not sure what connection you are trying to draw. UA-cam isn’t on TV.

    • @microsf121
      @microsf121 Рік тому +1

      @WillDaBeast650
      My point was that both YT and news media can be classified as entertainment, yet they have differing standards for regulation.

  • @WeekdayWeekend
    @WeekdayWeekend Рік тому

    As horrible as Raycons earbuds actually are, they were really cool with Dankpods after he bought them himself and he raked them over the coals. They took it to heart and sent him 'better' earbuds for free. Didn't ask for a video, didn't ask for a better review.

  • @Light1c3
    @Light1c3 Рік тому

    Nth?

  • @OutOfNameIdeas2
    @OutOfNameIdeas2 Рік тому +1

    Why is and in the thumbnail. All they did was not send Review units lol. There wasn't even any communication. Keep facts straight

    • @yassertq
      @yassertq Рік тому

      Buddy, you really should check out the full facts before jumping to conclusions:
      ua-cam.com/video/FjUUPB4e3pA/v-deo.html

    • @ritwikism
      @ritwikism Рік тому

      Are you dense? Just add two and two

    • @OutOfNameIdeas2
      @OutOfNameIdeas2 Рік тому

      @@ritwikism what's your issue?
      It's like saying im harassing food UA-camrs because I don't send my food to them. Unexplored markets. Maybe it isn't profitable. Maybe they want to stay out of the drama?

  • @goozebump
    @goozebump Рік тому +1

    Third?

  • @axelsifuentes4559
    @axelsifuentes4559 Рік тому +1

    First

  • @geistar
    @geistar Рік тому +183

    Would it be possible to create something like a reviewer's union. It doesn't have to be much more than a discord or private forum. A place where reviewers get together and discuss such problems and decide how t o address them. If let's say 10 from every country are in this union, and they see a trend that companies try something shady, they band together and all release videos of the problem. Like you guys did here, but more organized. Then the companies would stop such thing because it could harm their income worldwide.

    • @KiraSlith
      @KiraSlith Рік тому +21

      Due to how these companies work, something like that would have to be put together very quietly among a large number of major reviewers per nation and more or less sprung onto the companies involved. There's also the problem of NDA based atomization, where members can be sued by these companies even for discussing the NDA'd hardware or abuses surrounding an active NDA if even 1 member isn't on the same NDA.

    • @GlorifiedGremlin
      @GlorifiedGremlin Рік тому +3

      LTT being so big, they could head up the group too if they wanted to

    • @anonanon69
      @anonanon69 Рік тому +4

      Unions punish hard workers and reward slackers.

    • @thecookedchef.recipes
      @thecookedchef.recipes Рік тому +5

      @@anonanon69 Absolutely, what OP is describing isn’t really a union though, more a consortium or watchdog yaknow

    • @drunkenhobo8020
      @drunkenhobo8020 Рік тому +4

      ​@@anonanon69 What billionaire told you that?

  • @AuthenTech
    @AuthenTech Рік тому +32

    Love when you guys get the word out on this stuff. It honestly has happened many different times to my channel over the years, and it's really sad the lack of integrity brands and reviewers have. When you stand up, they don't like it.

  • @TerraWare
    @TerraWare Рік тому +40

    These brands view UA-camr's as an extension of their marketing. It's good that the bigger guys are willing to stand up against manipulative practices but I still find the smaller channels and sometimes even bigger will feel that they need to maintain a positive relationship to be able to get early review samples or make exclusive content and not be so hard on the brand when it deserves it.
    People aren't stupid though and they will pick up on it when they see a channel be more critical of a competing brand than another of which they usually always positively cover or they do a lot of sponsored and exclusive content with them.

    • @MN-jw7mm
      @MN-jw7mm Рік тому +3

      They don't view them as that, they ARE that. That's the entire reason any business relationship exists with content creators. They're ALL hired when they're given these samples.

  • @Yuriel1981
    @Yuriel1981 Рік тому +17

    PLEASE PLEASE! Never stop talking about and calling out bad advertisers and supporting your fellow independent reviewers! I will never not take your guys opinion into my consideration as long as I get truthful reviews from you whether I have to wait till you have to buy one yourself or not. These corporations man......

  • @VitalVampyr
    @VitalVampyr Рік тому +5

    9:25
    So Samsung was mad about you having a red light in your video.

  • @seanet1310
    @seanet1310 Рік тому +22

    Somehow Gamers Nexus escaped with light hate from Nvidea given they have had them in person tech videos such as the thermal design after the debacle. GN even got in with EVGA and still got NVidia in person

    • @fix0the0spade
      @fix0the0spade Рік тому +13

      But GN is big enough now to count as a 'Scary' channel. I'd bet there's also a big disconnect between the engineering background members of companies like Nvidia and the corporate background people. Engineering guys must love going to GN because they can really talk in detail about what they built, the Corporate ones probably fear them because there is no hiding from GN.

  • @grizzleebair
    @grizzleebair Рік тому +21

    I like the idea of you guys sponsoring small YTers to review products LTT does not. Great idea! While I understand Luke's rebuttal on that idea, there are Tech YTers that are building a channel where half their content is older parts, not always cutting-edge parts, as they rarely get new items at embargo time.

  • @Plasmapea987
    @Plasmapea987 Рік тому +11

    Wow, companies are Greedier than I thought💀

    • @cooperreynolds5041
      @cooperreynolds5041 Рік тому +17

      Welcome to the world, it's not very fun when your eyes are open.

    • @Zyphera
      @Zyphera Рік тому +7

      Shhhh dont think just buy without thought.

    • @BlueMoon1890
      @BlueMoon1890 Рік тому +12

      However greedy you think any company is, they are orders of magnitude more greedy than that.

  • @TeamStevers
    @TeamStevers Рік тому +4

    I have a 3090 and was going to get a 4090 but their behavior is seriously impacting my upgrade path.

  • @117johnpar
    @117johnpar Рік тому +3

    A bunch of laptop and phone reviewers are like this. They dont actually review it with negatives. Just run through specs and bullet point press features. Theres a metric ton of small tec youtubers that get their kicks from this. Pays the bills and gets them free and discounted products. Makes it quite hard to find real world reviews for lesser known products when the lesser youtubers are calling their Ads "Reviews"

  • @grangesaves33
    @grangesaves33 Рік тому +2

    btw, the medicine ads part reminded me of this, but Dr. Oz lost the senate race

  • @MrGamelover23
    @MrGamelover23 Рік тому +28

    E for Electric got banned from half the industry's media events because he dares to say the truth about electric cars he reviews. Jim Sterling got blacklisted from the video game industry because he wasn't just a corporate mouthpiece. This trend is disturbing. Did Roger Ebert ever have to pay to see a film he reviewed? This has to stop.

    • @WhiteGinger10000
      @WhiteGinger10000 Рік тому +6

      Well Jim Sterling kinda started doing what he hated. At least that is how it looked.

    • @kylewm
      @kylewm Рік тому

      Let’s not forget what Apple did with John Retinger

  • @mattkjt6725
    @mattkjt6725 Рік тому +4

    Linus, With all the tech you have I'm still amazed that you havent made a portable streaming kit, you need a portable light, mic, camera, laptop and HUB, i bet you can make it fit in that freaking HUGE backpack.

  • @leors7578
    @leors7578 Рік тому +4

    imagina se o linus soubesse de 1/4 das tretas que acontecem no brasil

  • @wordsmith451
    @wordsmith451 Рік тому +1

    Me, writing a long screed responding to a rhetorical question posed by Linus then seeing it addressed as I write my comment: Ahhhh fuck.

  • @noxistudios
    @noxistudios Рік тому +2

    Surprised there isn't a better and more direct law precedent set for abusive actions that attempt to coerce individuals, employees and even small companies based on implied threats to livelihood. If you're not "bussiness'ing fair" there have to be repercussion beyond naming and shaming, because as stated these companies are generally too big to otherwise have any accountability.

  • @rowdq
    @rowdq Рік тому +2

    Linus really butchering how chaebol is pronounced haha

  • @k.a.stensson
    @k.a.stensson Рік тому +1

    Why don't customers care that businesses do shady evil stuff?
    They just keep buying apple products or nvidia cards...

  • @simonmcneilly55
    @simonmcneilly55 Рік тому +2

    Tech companies have the Apple mentality, “ we make it , you buy it” good bad or otherwise, just buy the new thing.

  • @Zeldur
    @Zeldur Рік тому +2

    Honestly, when I was looking into a new 3D printer, I like when reviewers give positive AND negative. If they give only positive and never talk about the product outside of a sponsored video, I give it less thought. That's why I chose the Ender 3 v2 over the Elegoo Neptune 2 or 3 even though I thought the Neptune is a better printer.
    Also... Being so nitpicky on the COLOR IN THE BACKGROUND? Time to dig this company up to avoid their TVs

  • @SuperSmashDolls
    @SuperSmashDolls Рік тому +1

    The "advertiser complaining about lighting" thing reminds me of that conspiracy theory that GamersNexus was paid off by Nvidia to put green boxes in the background of AMD GPU reviews. Except actually real and not bullshit.

  • @kgsbowtie
    @kgsbowtie Рік тому +8

    Depending on how a contract is structured, if you “hired” another channel as a subcontractor to make the review about the embargoed product, then it in theory might be possible to send them it without any problem because they would technically be “working” for you.
    Idk if it’d work at all, it’s just an idea I thought I’d through out there.

  • @dominicaccardo8050
    @dominicaccardo8050 Рік тому +2

    this is really cool to listen to, learning about the ramifications of the hardware unboxed scandal

  • @chummlysrc654
    @chummlysrc654 Рік тому +2

    luke is that a bottle of vodka lol

  • @HiImKyle
    @HiImKyle Рік тому

    4:30 - it's only the same with game companies, I don't remember who it was but someone did a Gotham Knights sponsored video and WB wanted them to remove more or less everything negative because it would ruin reputation

  • @haphazard1342
    @haphazard1342 Рік тому +1

    Linus, would really appreciate seeing a more in-depth video about this on your main channel.

  • @maweitao
    @maweitao Рік тому +1

    I think computer hardware is one of the few segments where reviewers are openly critical of a bad product. Almost everything else, including consumer electronics and cars generally avoids negativity. I can think of a few exceptions, Savagegeese being one of them, but by and large most "reviews" are just product tours. Companies have all the leverage when access is a challenge. It's why outside of Consumer Reports all appliance reviews just regurgitate press releases.
    Collaborating with marketing teams and ad agencies over the years has left me with strong cynicism and a general dislike of the industry. There's a legitimate need for advertising, but the manipulation described here is just the tip of the iceberg. And that's on top of being exploitative; designers in marketing face a brutal work-life balance that rivals the gaming and FX industries.

  • @omar.r.d9016
    @omar.r.d9016 Рік тому +1

    #Respect_ME_PC_Community
    great job mostafa

  • @ThrilChaser
    @ThrilChaser Рік тому +1

    You guys are awesome. Keep on telling it how it is... Honestly speaking, I love he honesty. There really aren't very many trustworthy people or companies out there anymore. So you guys are doing a really great thing. Thank You Linus, LTT team , and anyone else involved!

  • @DeepMukherjee
    @DeepMukherjee Рік тому +6

    Its pretty common. I worked for a big Tech channel on YT(In India) for a few months and LG send over a laptop, I forget the name. Pretty much a Macbook clone with stupidly bad thermals, screen and keyboard flex. I wrote a very critical piece on it for an YT video. The editor above me pretty much ignored all the criticism and went ahead with branding the product Decent, in place of Bad. They explained to me they cant criticize companies like this since the other tech channels are not and LG will stop sampling them.

    • @Subuzgreatest
      @Subuzgreatest Рік тому

      This is why you need a UA-cam channel of your own.

  • @tenkaminari
    @tenkaminari Рік тому

    I agree that companies controlling reviewers' review is bad for the industry, but I'm not so sure about your argument about effecting those channels' livelihood.
    It's literally and figuratively not their business to care about the channel's livelihood. If the companies need to care, then where do they draw the line of at least how many subscribers the channel must have for them to care? So care the rich, ignores the poor? At the end it's business with business. If businesses disagree, then any side should have the right to terminate the deal.

  • @adrianconstantin1132
    @adrianconstantin1132 Рік тому

    11:42 So NVIDIA does not like Linus ... well a whole lot of people do not like NVIDIA for their behaviour. To this day they prevent development of an open-source driver, using digital signatures (based on cryptographic keys), required by their GPUs before loading the firmware in the drivers. Just so Linux can not develop a proper NVIDIA driver. Even when Steam can now play almost any game on Linux. As market leaders (80% discrete GPU market share), NVIDIA has hurt FOSS and Linux adoption for decades now. They use the proprietary driver to force data collection and licensing terms. Can you believe their license states if NVIDIA auto-updates their driver and bricks your system, the only one responsible is still the user ?

  • @azaril7780
    @azaril7780 Рік тому

    Long story short, large companies need to hop off of media reviewers nuts

  • @grantsor
    @grantsor Рік тому

    The "scandals" are much much much more prevalent with Smartphone brands. It seems that PC brands are following this bad example.

  • @25566
    @25566 Рік тому +4

    When one of the hosts is at home please use teamspeak or something with loseless audio transmission for their mic, and let them take a studio mic from the office. It sounds awful and it's really easy to make it sound way better.

  • @PleaseLu
    @PleaseLu Рік тому

    love u linus xoxo

  • @f22217
    @f22217 Рік тому +6

    Ooh sh*t here we go again...

  • @brickviking667
    @brickviking667 Рік тому

    Oh my.4:18 - 4:36 - why is a company ever in the position of having to do (or even threaten) layoffs just at the whim of the market? (and I haven't even seen the rest of the video segment yet!) Doesn't that indicate that the company isn't robust in its product quality? In addition, relating to the section starting at 14:08, I would like to suggest something for companies that want to be so hard-line about how their products are presented. Perhaps every single tech review company should stop reviewing their products, and state why, very clearly and emphatically. I agree with Linus here, that a review company and other UA-cam channels should be free to express a view on a product, even if it might not be entirely favourable. I had a worse expression, but I need to consider the almighty beeping machine too. 😁

  • @25Leprechaun
    @25Leprechaun Рік тому

    I remember a gaming UA-camr a number of years ago saying they asked a dev why they continue to send game codes despite the fact the rest of the industry basically blacklisted them for calling out their bs, and they said "youll just buy the products anyway and call out its problems so theres no point" i feel most people especially journalists need to do this even if they get blacklisted, im here for the person idc about the company.

  • @robertg7249
    @robertg7249 Рік тому

    i don't like where graphics cards are going, nor do i like where games are going.
    i don't need raytracing or energy hogging cards. the only reason i would need them is cuz of new games that make it into a baseline.
    and i don't like new games that are starting at 100gb storage. for what?
    what's 100gb in ark survival evolved and connan exiles maps? how do they think that size is okay? the game is literally basic as fuck and it takes up 300-500gb on a fresh install. are they serious? not to mention load times.
    we don't need stronger cards, we need better designed games. and ditch the fucking higher and higher resolution dream.
    valheim looks like a piece of shit and it was one of the best time we had with my friends. minecraft also looks questionable but it's also amazing. league of legends? can run on a toaster.
    those are the games i like as a gamer.
    the ppl who prefer looks over actual fun times are a mystery to me. if you want good graphics go outside. i want fantasy in most games, i don't want it to look real.

  • @timmyjupiter8641
    @timmyjupiter8641 Рік тому

    Pc hardware companies may in fact do what you guys say they're doing but to be fair there is a level of scrutiny held to Microsoft, Nvidia, and Intel that doesn't seem to be held against their competitors by the UA-cam pc hardware reviewers. Don't believe me, go look at all their channel video pages and see who appears most in the thumbnails, and in what context they appear. There has been a major shift from reviewing to policing and some of these channels are out for blood on these companies. Some channels even doing multi-part series on hardware or customer service mistakes going as far as demanding statements from these companies, performing very limited bias testing scenarios, all for the thrill of "sticking it to the man". This form of media sells, the negativity sells, and there is plenty of blame to be shared in this space.

  • @tatersalad6872
    @tatersalad6872 Рік тому

    screw nvidia! They need to realize that they are not the only option out there. Especially now with how AMD is seriously competing with them at lower power needs and not using a sketchy power connector. Not too mention that AMD also makes cpu's so they are able to make the cpu and gpu really work together to add to the performance. Can't wait to see where AMD goes in the future with this special ability!

  • @MeshJedi
    @MeshJedi Рік тому

    I'm guessing from the existence of ethics and morals, hardware unboxed is not that other unbox channel with the scammer giving away non existent iphones and such.

  • @OrloxPhoenix
    @OrloxPhoenix Рік тому

    Why was Luke grounded for this video? 🤔