Was the involved building a part of the bag and paper company? Product storage, perhaps?? Looks like a smaller version of the Norcal Paper fire! Nicely done job of documenting the fire!!
Jack. I remember that fire in Philly. I lived in Norristown, and trains were stopped going into Reading terminal on Market street for a long time. We're not too old. Are we?
That is a huge fire. I hope nobody got hurt. Makes it worse on a freezing cold night and wind. A few years ago in Utah we had a 5 alarm at night in Janurary when temps were just single digits. A majority of the water immediately turned into ice upon impact. Luckily it was an adbandoned building but it hurt because it was an old dance club I used to go at as a young adult.
Terry Personal preference of the departments ordering the equipment. It doesn't matter if you have one or ten nozzles. If you aren't putting the water on burning material, you are accomplishing Nothing like they did here. You either Think and get a spotter to help you get the water on the burning material or you shut the nozzle down and sit there. They aren't accomplishing anything if they Just squirt water. That shows they put on the uniform and Just Showed Up! Their brains where shut off.
Is it just me in my video viewing. or do a lot of firefighters in tower ladder buckets not use airmasks ?.Also --sooo many FF do not use full turnouts-hoods--masks during overhaul.Just an observation.
JB91710: As usual you demonstrate the lack of knowledge of contemporary fire fighting techniques. Firefighter safety is of primary importance. dead firefighters do no one any good badly injured firefighters same thing. Both draw additional resource loss from the resources available to fight the fire. Single nozzle vs multiple nozzles the few the number of nozzles the greater the pressure available to force water through the nozzle the greater the pressure the greater the velocity or the stream at the nozzle that greater the velocity the further you can shoot the water. This is simple physics. The choices made by the departments is preference and that is based of the requirements of the departments. So again you demonstrate the intelligence of a Stromatolite.
William Try this. The supporting structure inside the building has burned out and there's nothing holding the walls up. The slightest tug by a remaining attached floor joist will pull the wall down.
JB91710 JB try this one on for size, brick and mortar are porous and contain entrapped air inside. The air expands and causes spalling. Spalling is the disintegration of the material composing the walls caused by extreme heat. Enough spalling occurs and the wall collapses because it is so weakened it can no longer stand. You should really study up on the effects of heat on materials others than just consumption by combustion.
ok whats a 5-11? in newark we donh have that i think the highest thing we can get to is a genaral alarm and wat is 8a next to engan 49 and war is 2specile?
They did have one of the smaller deluge units (6-7-6) as one of the specials; it was enough, apparently. Frankly, there aren't enough pumpers to properly feed Big John -- not without taking away from other lines of attack. That's part of why it was retired.
Put Chicago Fire Dept & FDNY on an equal footing. These guys have to be the best on the planet. Boston is close behind. No offense, it's just my personal opinion. I know Philly, L.A. and many others have the highest ratings as well. Alll the big insurance companies fairly rate all fire departments.
This is a perfect example of Zombie worthless fire fighting. The vast majority of the water never landed on burning fuel. Watch the deck gun that is shooting to the upper left corner of the building at 1:40. Every drop of that water is hitting flame and the sidewalk. Watch how long he does that. In fact all three of those deck guns are hitting nothing. 3:20. Same thing. If you can't hit anything burning, stop looking stupid and wasting water. Take your time to THINK and then position your equipment so it can do some good. If you have to shoot long distance, at least get a spotter to the side to direct the flow. The operator can't see through the spray. Before you blind FFer worshippers jump on me, take a long look at every drop of water that came out of those guns. How much went into the building on burning fuel? Was It an easy fire? No. But that's no excuse to be lazy. I don't care if you're a volunteer. If you accept the responsibility, you had better earn the right to put on that uniform.
Oh boy, an old salt internet warrior...things have changed since you were in my friend, it is no longer about getting in quick no matter what. We actually think now, tactically. What are you really saving anyway? Nothing. Were you there? Do you know the weather, like others have said, it was very cold and windy that night in Chicago. The building was a goner, not saving anything but the buildings around it.
herndblr Actually you have that backwards. back In The Day, we used our heads to find out the safest and fastest way to Stop The Threat. Today, they have created a huge number of tactics that accomplish nothing to make fire fighting Seem more complicated than it really is. 54 years of dealing with people in various professions including fire fighting, tells me that. If they just got to the point and put every drop of water on what was burning, they wouldn't have needed protection. Just squirting water doesn't count either. You have to make sure it gets Through the window and not just hit the wall and fall on the ground. There is no point in attempting to do a job if you have no intention of getting it right and, the First time.
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Outstanding footage and yes thanks for enduring the elements to get the footage and huge ovation to all who put out this massive fire
Thank you for battling the elements to get this video.
Excellent video. Great to see the Fire Dept doing such a great job. on such a big fire.
Many thanks for posting.
Brian. NZ
Was the involved building a part of the bag and paper company? Product storage, perhaps?? Looks like a smaller version of the Norcal Paper fire! Nicely done job of documenting the fire!!
Jack. I remember that fire in Philly. I lived in Norristown, and trains were stopped going into Reading terminal on Market street for a long time. We're not too old. Are we?
Unreal! Reminds me of the 12-alarm Fretz Bldg fire at 10th & Diamond on Jan. 1, 1963 in Philly. It took out a neighborhood & created a near firestorm.
awesome video. 5*. really amazing footage.
That is a huge fire. I hope nobody got hurt. Makes it worse on a freezing cold night and wind. A few years ago in Utah we had a 5 alarm at night in Janurary when temps were just single digits. A majority of the water immediately turned into ice upon impact. Luckily it was an adbandoned building but it hurt because it was an old dance club I used to go at as a young adult.
To jb91710--why do CFD and FDNY towers only have one monitor in the bucket.??A lot of depts. have two--increase the coverage and range.
Terry Personal preference of the departments ordering the equipment. It doesn't matter if you have one or ten nozzles. If you aren't putting the water on burning material, you are accomplishing Nothing like they did here. You either Think and get a spotter to help you get the water on the burning material or you shut the nozzle down and sit there. They aren't accomplishing anything if they Just squirt water. That shows they put on the uniform and Just Showed Up! Their brains where shut off.
Is it just me in my video viewing. or do a lot of firefighters in tower ladder buckets not use airmasks ?.Also --sooo many FF do not use full turnouts-hoods--masks during overhaul.Just an observation.
JB91710: As usual you demonstrate the lack of knowledge of contemporary fire fighting techniques. Firefighter safety is of primary importance. dead firefighters do no one any good badly injured firefighters same thing. Both draw additional resource loss from the resources available to fight the fire. Single nozzle vs multiple nozzles the few the number of nozzles the greater the pressure available to force water through the nozzle the greater the pressure the greater the velocity or the stream at the nozzle that greater the velocity the further you can shoot the water. This is simple physics. The choices made by the departments is preference and that is based of the requirements of the departments. So again you demonstrate the intelligence of a Stromatolite.
Is inline pumping similar to pumper to pumper operations?
the Werehouse fire is so hot 🥵 and who knows that they put out the fire in a cold day in Chicago
I can’t imagine what it was like being the first due companies to this.
Great video, beautiful colors. Something so dangerous can be very beautiful (irony). I feel bad for all the jobs that were lost.
i love how no one spins the tips off the deck guns. only getting 500gpm when they could be getting 1000
Hey, is that a pump module on RS1? Is it actually a quint?!
Yeah, i think it's a 1000gpm pump if I remember right. Not a quint, just something they did on the old Snorkels.
ok whats a 5-11? in newark we donh have that i think the highest thing we can get to is a genaral alarm
I believe it’s the code for a 5 alarm fire.
5-11 and 2 specials, was that really the call?
1 hour in, building's standing, 2 hours in, top floors gone!
The mortar melts and the bricks give way
William Try this. The supporting structure inside the building has burned out and there's nothing holding the walls up. The slightest tug by a remaining attached floor joist will pull the wall down.
JB91710 JB try this one on for size, brick and mortar are porous and contain entrapped air inside. The air expands and causes spalling. Spalling is the disintegration of the material composing the walls caused by extreme heat. Enough spalling occurs and the wall collapses because it is so weakened it can no longer stand. You should really study up on the effects of heat on materials others than just consumption by combustion.
ok whats a 5-11? in newark we donh have that i think the highest thing we can get to is a genaral alarm and wat is 8a next to engan 49 and war is 2specile?
It's not an A It's a chines 8 because it's station is in chinatown
I think "Big John" needs to come out of retirement for this one!
Such a shame a lovely building,it reminds me of the Maple mill fire near my house.
3800 South block of Ashland Ave
this type fire would take a very long time to get out
They did have one of the smaller deluge units (6-7-6) as one of the specials; it was enough, apparently. Frankly, there aren't enough pumpers to properly feed Big John -- not without taking away from other lines of attack. That's part of why it was retired.
ua-cam.com/video/nAqEh5Tmv6I/v-deo.html Shows Big Mo in action at this blaze. Unit 671. Not as big as Big John but packs a bigger punch than 676.
Buildings Should of Had Working Sprinkler systems "
Is that snow?
yep
What the hell are you trying to say?
the las vegas fire dept would love to put out a fire like that.
And the rest of the country trash talks Chicago like there is no tomorrow.
Put Chicago Fire Dept & FDNY on an equal footing. These guys have to be the best on the planet. Boston is close behind. No offense, it's just my personal opinion. I know Philly, L.A. and many others have the highest ratings as well. Alll the big insurance companies fairly rate all fire departments.
goood joab
Muito Bom !!
omg
Mute this and play Avatar - Let it Burn, while watching.
This is a perfect example of Zombie worthless fire fighting. The vast majority of the water never landed on burning fuel. Watch the deck gun that is shooting to the upper left corner of the building at 1:40. Every drop of that water is hitting flame and the sidewalk. Watch how long he does that. In fact all three of those deck guns are hitting nothing. 3:20. Same thing. If you can't hit anything burning, stop looking stupid and wasting water. Take your time to THINK and then position your equipment so it can do some good. If you have to shoot long distance, at least get a spotter to the side to direct the flow. The operator can't see through the spray. Before you blind FFer worshippers jump on me, take a long look at every drop of water that came out of those guns. How much went into the building on burning fuel? Was It an easy fire? No. But that's no excuse to be lazy. I don't care if you're a volunteer. If you accept the responsibility, you had better earn the right to put on that uniform.
***** Been in construction since 1963 and was a fire fighter who got the job done right now on Tank Water.
Oh boy, an old salt internet warrior...things have changed since you were in my friend, it is no longer about getting in quick no matter what. We actually think now, tactically. What are you really saving anyway? Nothing. Were you there? Do you know the weather, like others have said, it was very cold and windy that night in Chicago. The building was a goner, not saving anything but the buildings around it.
herndblr Actually you have that backwards. back In The Day, we used our heads to find out the safest and fastest way to Stop The Threat. Today, they have created a huge number of tactics that accomplish nothing to make fire fighting Seem more complicated than it really is. 54 years of dealing with people in various professions including fire fighting, tells me that. If they just got to the point and put every drop of water on what was burning, they wouldn't have needed protection. Just squirting water doesn't count either. You have to make sure it gets Through the window and not just hit the wall and fall on the ground. There is no point in attempting to do a job if you have no intention of getting it right and, the First time.
JB91710 hey assbut your not making friends as for your comment before being intelligent well no one agrees with you looser.
***** are you taking about JB91710 being right.