The Carlisle Indian School: The Extraordinary Beginning of College Football's Greatest Underdog

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  • Опубліковано 20 сер 2024

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  • @CollegeFootballHistory
    @CollegeFootballHistory  5 місяців тому

    BTW, I would like comments about what you do or don't like about the formats of the videos, particularly the quotes.Thank you!

  • @ASMRPeople
    @ASMRPeople 5 місяців тому +8

    I can't wait for pop Warner & Jim thorpe.

  • @jtom68
    @jtom68 2 місяці тому +1

    This needs to be made into a movie about the Carlisle Indian Football team and the school

  • @HCC788
    @HCC788 5 місяців тому +5

    I love this channel. I absolutely love it. This is my favorite recent discovery. I've gotten some book recommendations from here, too. Beautiful. Please keep it going.

  • @ABQKLMS
    @ABQKLMS 5 місяців тому +2

    I'm looking forward to Carlisle vs Army. Thorpe vs Eisenhower.

  • @cavecookie1
    @cavecookie1 5 місяців тому +1

    This is a great channel; well researched, well narrated, and love all the old pix. I'm a history freak, and the early history of football is fascinating. Looking forward to the next chapter. Thank you, Good Sir!

  • @christophermund5977
    @christophermund5977 5 місяців тому +2

    I am really enjoying these videos. Thank you so much!

  • @mikebronicki8264
    @mikebronicki8264 5 місяців тому

    I was aware of Carlisle football, but I had never heard about their founding and history. Amazing stuff. Also, I never thought about Wounded Knee and other Indian wars being such recent history to their football teams. Thank you for putting it into perspective!

  • @Redmenace96
    @Redmenace96 5 місяців тому

    Great choice of topic! The Carlisle Redmen are Legend. In my mind, it really goes beyond pride in being Native American, and becomes a human epic, for all times. Like Jackie Robinson? It is their story, but it is everyone's story, too.
    1890's- How in the world did they schedule those powerhouses?

  • @Redmenace96
    @Redmenace96 5 місяців тому

    The use of period news accounts is awesome. Very educational. References to sources like book titles is also appreciated.
    No matter the subject, I avoid YT channels with the person just talking into the camera. Your graphics, quotes, photos are just perfect. I study them while you speak over them.
    Wish you could inject a little humor, but you do have, "hard core" in your title, ha,ha! Think you are meeting your audience expectations very well. A million subs is beyond your niche, but I recommend it to anyone who likes both sports and history. Neither one is less, in your execution.
    Anything over 20 min, and I have to plan around it. Save it to Watch Later.
    You are a very clear speaker, and I like the structure of your scripts. Your time investment is well worthwhile, and fans can wait a day or two to make it right. Don't feel panic about putting out content.

    • @CollegeFootballHistory
      @CollegeFootballHistory  5 місяців тому

      Thank you for the comments.
      Humor comes naturally to me normally, but I am still getting accustomed to figuring out what I'm doing with this channel.
      I do worry about what people think of the quotes... and I appreciate your input.

  • @ProtectTheSecond
    @ProtectTheSecond 5 місяців тому +1

    So well researched, as always. Thank you sir

  • @collegefootballhistorian2078
    @collegefootballhistorian2078 5 місяців тому

    I wish there was a little footage out there of Carlisle. They are really the story of America in a nutshell, the good and the bad. Outside of a tiny bit of footage not much exist before the 1920s. In the mid to late 20's newsreels started to have some footage. By the mid to late 30s coaches started to use film. I believe the one and only clip of Thorpe was him as a Canton Bulldog.

  • @atoz9405
    @atoz9405 4 місяці тому

    I think you do a great job. You have put a lot of work in it and it is appreciated. Also doing the quotes adds to it. Gives a more human element. And you’re actually talking, not some ai thing. Keep it up

    • @CollegeFootballHistory
      @CollegeFootballHistory  4 місяці тому

      Thank you. I appreciate this comment. I keep wondering if the quotes are something people like or if they're boring.....

  • @johndonohoe3778
    @johndonohoe3778 5 місяців тому

    Amazing content!!

  • @nickdarr7328
    @nickdarr7328 2 місяці тому

    They should have chosen the Carlisle Cavalry as their name. A cartoon version of Custer would have been their mascot

  • @44032
    @44032 4 місяці тому

    When your coach is calling penalties on you, it takes a lot of self respect to continue to play hard.

  • @goodmaro
    @goodmaro 5 місяців тому

    If Hikok actually signaled to stop play, then such a mistake can't be corrected, because you can't have players doubting the referee's command to stop playing. Today it's treated as an indvertent whistle -- if the whistle is actually blown.

    • @CollegeFootballHistory
      @CollegeFootballHistory  5 місяців тому

      I was thinking more of along the lines of granting the Indians a draw or some such after the game was over.
      There are instances of teams doing things like that at the time. None off the top of my head but it's Monday morning and I'm in IT and things are blowing up.

    • @goodmaro
      @goodmaro 5 місяців тому +1

      @@CollegeFootballHistory I don't think that'd be the referee's job. The other team would have to concede it. For instance, if their players on the field said none of them thought the runner had cried "down", so it didn't affect their play, they could concede the score.

  • @goodmaro
    @goodmaro 5 місяців тому +1

    Look at 1:45 . The book is _The Real All Americans_ , but in the rest of the video you keep eliding the "All".

  • @normbograham
    @normbograham 26 днів тому

    at 5:25, you mention that he rents them out for labor and they earn money. But missed from that, is that W. Beitzel, was the guardian of their financial affairs, and they had to get his permission to access the private bank, also owned by a Beitzel family member, and he bragged about using their money to help fund the school in the congressional indian report. By his own admission, the school was using the money earned from renting out the kids, for whatever they wanted, and they could not access their own funds, unless they knew the exact amount they had in the account, and Beitzel agreed to how they were spending their funds. Also sorta weird, is that Beitzel, seems to profit from their work, and even their running away, or abandoning their account. [Report to congress]. It's sorta weird the pride he felt, at offensive abuse of fiduciary responsibility, that he was bragging to congress, about financial abuse of the children.

    • @CollegeFootballHistory
      @CollegeFootballHistory  22 дні тому

      The pride makes sense if you look at it that they're reporting about abusing children that Congress mostly wanted to eradicate anyway, doesn't it?
      I will do more on Carlisle. It is never not interesting.

  • @Redmenace96
    @Redmenace96 5 місяців тому

    Also, when you are scrolling through history, put the year, in type, on the screen. Don't just speak it once before launching into a story. Especially, if you digress to give some background.

  • @Redmenace96
    @Redmenace96 5 місяців тому

    The story is full of human bigotry, but don't forget the crowds. I feel you described it correctly when you said, "fan favorite". The crowds loved them. Is that a positive amongst the descriptions of degradation?
    This could be 3 parts if you feel like telling the story of Jim Thorpe. Please don't, as I feel your subscribers are quite familiar with his life. Fer sher I watched Burt Lancaster in, "Jim Thorpe, All-American" so I feel like I know the whole story 😇

    • @CollegeFootballHistory
      @CollegeFootballHistory  4 місяці тому +1

      There's always more to the story than has been told!
      I will have to do something on Thorpe because he's part of that legend.

    • @Redmenace96
      @Redmenace96 4 місяці тому

      @@CollegeFootballHistory Of course! I was just goofing around.