As a tester and a member of the Codenamed Flanker Team the things you addressed with the momentum won't be changed due to limitatons with DCS and the flight model its self but the plane will still undergo updates.
I see. That’s fair enough. It’s still very impressive. One thing I would highly recommend is making the aircraft more responsive to pitch inputs. It’s very slow to react. In that sense I think the DCS Su-27 is a lot better. Especially obvious when flying in close formation.
Kindly bare in mind that the real Airshow demo had different atmospheric parameters while in DCS they relay on IGL "Ideal Gas Law" (rightfully so, otherwise the game would need another computer just to run atmosphere data alone :)) ) which most of the time would lead to similar discrepancies in flight model........kudo to the team for eyeballing and approximating something this close........good video none the less sir......
I love this!!! DCS often struggles to portray real and proper flying characteristics of aircraft due to engine limitatiions. (it's a combat sim sooooo.... with a few exceptions such as the Tomcat or the Hornet. Which flight models outside the flight envelope are pretty acurately depicted)
Hello, do you know if quest 3s controllers can be used instead of hotas in the mod? I have su 33 and they work there. They don't work in the SU 30 mod. Can this be attributed?
Hello, a few months ago, the SU30 module stopped working with the DCS new version update. Although the creator released a patch, it still doesn’t allow for correct operation of the aircraft in the cockpit. Did you find a way to make this module usable? Could you please share it? Thank you!
Dcs needs a big overhaul for thrust vectoring to be implemented better. As of now the magic momentum cannot be removed and all planes float (essentially breaking the flight part of the game) at speeds below 100kts and 60kts
hi ppl , bro how i can do for fly me su30 mki AG the aircraft its at rock for roll!!! the stick move slow!!!!!! moviments so slow! i want that move on air about u do! help?
@@acewyvern3489 so it is a mod of the su-27 in FC3 i understand. love to fly backseat, has this extremely realstic look in real life videos. but that hopefully does not delete the original one as safety backup. not sure if the mod is already done and downloadable?
@@CommandT Dooooh. How can you lie like that? Seriously! I mean it works for stupid, but please at least don't answer me like that! 😅. The real plane performed a spin while flying a curved path due to gravity, starting from a slightly positive pitch attitude. 1. Your plane wasn't even flying close to horizontal first of all, but almost vertical. 2. The spin you did was at a much higher alpha than the one in the real video, and when it was past half finished, your plane has transferred from a yawing motion onto a rolling motion and because you knew that it was going to look even more way off, you decided to trick the viewpoint, changing it abruptly right at that moment, because it would've been too obvious that the palne has now only rolled and not yawed almost anymore, looking completely different from what you tried to force it to look like, so as if people are so freaking dumb that they cannot see that great view change difference🤣 or the plane's actual motions. Cmon...! I don't know, maybe you're right! 🤣Maybe people are even more dumber than I have witnessed so far! I'm only happy for your mod, which is nothing else than copy-pasting the flight model of the Su-27 over an AI plane, which everyone can do that if they like. But except that good idea of a mod, cause that's all it is, bluntly stating that it did that spin like in that real video, when it's only 20-30% true and that only relates to some high AoA spin and the rest is way off-track, is nothing but words for the foul to buy and it disgusted me, personally. Seriously, I say the things as I find them and as they are and I don't care if I get bad replies for that or not. I mean I really enjoy your idea of a this particular mod, but seeing you say some bullshit, only lowered my expectations. Suggestion: Either try to redo the maneuver and make it look identical, and it's not hard at all actually if you know how to control a plane, or change that off-track statement or leave it as it is and who understands the differences stands out of the crowd😁.
@@CommandT From Ace Combat 7, the antagonist plane is an SU-30SM flown by a character named Mihaly (Sol Squadron). Could it be possible to add that livery in the future, please?
Which part are you talking about. The real airplane is actually capable of pulling up and breaking the airflow over the wings more quickly than the mod can.
Watching your control inputs gives a great window into why the Viper's fly by wire control stick moves very little, to prevent bad habit muscle memory for when you revert back to cable and hydraulics jets. Watch Blue Angel stick and rudder work to get an idea how the control are input in real life flight demos. Get a force feedback stick if you are a new flier in sims, it develops good habits that can be transferred to high g loading flight later, in real life if you are lucky enough to make it a career or even just a hop with someone as a motivational ride. "You have the jet... feel it out put on some g if you want. Whoa! Nice, Chandelle! You sure you've never done this before? You aren't ham fisted like sim kids that get stick time with me, at all!"
Patreons, I will upload the mission file for you to google drive tomorrow. Enjoy the show folks! :)
Sir, the hard manuever was like a short dive followed by a tail slide to a spinning cobra manuever ._____. Take care
As a Malaysian. I'm proud because Malaysia's Flankers getting recognised
Pilot:
ow ow ow ow my eyeballs
meanwhile the crowd:
"when can I go home?"
these maneuvres are like 3-4 g
@@lars9966 *negative* 3-4 g's
@@lars9966NEGATIVE 3-4G, much worse.
@@vincentvoncarnap obviously, but it never gets this when you fly with TV. only part where 3-4 g appeared was in the inverted push pass.
@@lars9966 whats your point 💩
Great video as always. Codename Flanker really did an incredible job with this mod and continues to do so. Incredible devs and very nice demonstration
Indeed! Hats off to the devs! 👌
@@CommandT That high AoA after takeoff is just so awesome🤩
Its "almost" module quality. They even added multirole capability, which was impossible without the ED SDK.
Designers - " how much sustained high AoA do we need?"
Sukhoi - "......Yes."
As a tester and a member of the Codenamed Flanker Team the things you addressed with the momentum won't be changed due to limitatons with DCS and the flight model its self but the plane will still undergo updates.
I see. That’s fair enough. It’s still very impressive. One thing I would highly recommend is making the aircraft more responsive to pitch inputs. It’s very slow to react. In that sense I think the DCS Su-27 is a lot better. Especially obvious when flying in close formation.
@@CommandTI am no expert, but since the su30 is dual seater and more nose heavy that could be intentional
Kindly bare in mind that the real Airshow demo had different atmospheric parameters while in DCS they relay on IGL "Ideal Gas Law" (rightfully so, otherwise the game would need another computer just to run atmosphere data alone :)) ) which most of the time would lead to similar discrepancies in flight model........kudo to the team for eyeballing and approximating something this close........good video none the less sir......
Sick flying man, good job!
Thanks! 😀
I did photography for the RMAF at RMAF Kuantan a couple years ago and this brings back memories
Nice! 👌
Best channel to show case her FM. Great content
Thanks!! 🙏
Thank god for modders in DCS, who can do things like this, and bring us such features as TVC. Great video!
Indeed!! And thanks 🙏
Amazing ! Awesome mod, sick show !
I love this!!! DCS often struggles to portray real and proper flying characteristics of aircraft due to engine limitatiions. (it's a combat sim sooooo.... with a few exceptions such as the Tomcat or the Hornet. Which flight models outside the flight envelope are pretty acurately depicted)
a really beautiful jet!
That’s for sure!👌
Indeed...!!!
Great video :) -3G passes are generally for photographers to get topside photos of the aircraft
Ah yes!
While performing cobra, drag makes you go up, but mass keeps you go in the same direction while keeping high AOA;)
I finally found your old YT channel again. Someone in discord pointed me to it.
Good to hear 👌👍
What a great video and what a demo of this awesome and beautiful machine.
Thanks! 🙏
Awesome mod and amazing skills. We desperately need clickable cockpits for all flankers
Very true!
I'm so excited for the new flanker update that I could cry
soon, there is still some system bug we have to fix
@@acewyvern3489 and need rework hud
@@user-hq2zr after Cockpit 3d model rework
Beautiful aircraft
Agreed!
I've seen an actual Su-30MKM sim and their HUD has a pitch ladder more akin to Rafale style. They don't use the Russian symbology.
We are working on a custom hud, but its highly limited due to DCS.
Yeah there’s a few things which are almost certainly different on the real MKM… for one, I doubt there’s Russian anywhere in the cockpit.
@@CommandT its literally a russian plane lmfao
@@CremeDeLaMeme. There is very little Russian on the MKM. At most it's just English butchered with Cyrillic font lol
I saw this plane in real avio show and he realy make crazy acrobatic tricks. I think he will be the best in dogfight
Is wonderfull view you piloting!
I am Brazilian! You have fans in all world!
Thanks!! 🙏
The US style birdsplitter antennae on the nose of a Flanker is always an odd look haha
Hello, do you know if quest 3s controllers can be used instead of hotas in the mod? I have su 33 and they work there. They don't work in the SU 30 mod. Can this be attributed?
Can't wait to get the 30SM in warthunder 🙂 for us more casual players
What a beauty!
Yep!
The F-22's thrust vectoring is insane enough but the SU-30 blows my mind
F-22 has literally nothing on Su-30/35 capabilities 😂
@@jaleger2295 f18 pilot who fought su 30 and f22 says that the FCS of the f22 is undoubtly better than the russian ones... keep coping jaleger
@@lars9966 sure thing, american propaganda cringe lord, sure thing
@@jaleger2295When you can choose to ignore any source that doesn’t fit your narrative, your ignorance becomes complete
@@christopherchartier3017
Great source. Source? Trust me bro ;)
Awesome flight! I don't use mods but I am think about change after saw this 👏🍻😎
Hello, a few months ago, the SU30 module stopped working with the DCS new version update. Although the creator released a patch, it still doesn’t allow for correct operation of the aircraft in the cockpit. Did you find a way to make this module usable? Could you please share it? Thank you!
he has a beta version of the mod, we will update it soon!
Nice target
Nice piloting :~)
Thanks!!
man ace combat 7 was so influencial malaysia made the su-30 real
Dcs needs a big overhaul for thrust vectoring to be implemented better. As of now the magic momentum cannot be removed and all planes float (essentially breaking the flight part of the game) at speeds below 100kts and 60kts
Ah interesting!
After that 4:35 of the video, do you still have enough speed to do a 4-point roll
hey capt, for some reason cant seem to take control of the aircraft any help please
hi ppl , bro how i can do for fly me su30 mki AG the aircraft its at rock for roll!!! the stick move slow!!!!!! moviments so slow! i want that move on air about u do! help?
Such a amazing free aircraft
Very true!
Как-то на видео незаметно шевеление соплами (TVC), оно есть?
На трэки не шевелятся - баг. А так да… всё работает
Is there a timeline when this version will become publicly available?
Unfortunatly not
интересно, сможет ли это перерасти в полноценный платный модуль, как произошло с С-130?
Очень вряд ли. Думаю у Команды ресурсов не хватит на это 😕
@@CommandT А насколько крутые нужны ресурсы?
is there any information on when this is coming out?
No date set yet but I imagine in the near future.
nice
No way we got Malaysian SU30 before GTA 6
Banggalah bro
Great job team, have you thouhgt making user manual for this module? It Will be great suport for noobs users as me😅
Hello, Gaijin Entertainment ? Can we uhh-
you can't sit in the back seat?
multi-crew like in the F-14 doesnt work due to FC3 limitations.
You can sit in the back seat and fly from the backseat but not multi-crew
@@acewyvern3489 so it is a mod of the su-27 in FC3 i understand. love to fly backseat, has this extremely realstic look in real life videos. but that hopefully does not delete the original one as safety backup. not sure if the mod is already done and downloadable?
@@piloto_loco its using a based off the Su-33 systems, but its HIGHLY modified
modders are carrying DCS
name of the intro music plsss?
Very cool
Do I need any DLC to use this mod?
I think it uses the DCS Su-33
Man, are you russian speaking? First time i hear such smooth pronunciation of a word full of consonants)
Yes I am, it’s my mother tongue 🙂
@CommandT ееее, я знал, знал!
@ 0:15 if you think that what you did there with this mod compares to what the plane in the real footage did, it's no good😅.
It compares well actually.
@@CommandT
Dooooh. How can you lie like that? Seriously! I mean it works for stupid, but please at least don't answer me like that! 😅. The real plane performed a spin while flying a curved path due to gravity, starting from a slightly positive pitch attitude.
1. Your plane wasn't even flying close to horizontal first of all, but almost vertical.
2. The spin you did was at a much higher alpha than the one in the real video, and when it was past half finished, your plane has transferred from a yawing motion onto a rolling motion and because you knew that it was going to look even more way off, you decided to trick the viewpoint, changing it abruptly right at that moment, because it would've been too obvious that the palne has now only rolled and not yawed almost anymore, looking completely different from what you tried to force it to look like, so as if people are so freaking dumb that they cannot see that great view change difference🤣 or the plane's actual motions. Cmon...! I don't know, maybe you're right! 🤣Maybe people are even more dumber than I have witnessed so far! I'm only happy for your mod, which is nothing else than copy-pasting the flight model of the Su-27 over an AI plane, which everyone can do that if they like. But except that good idea of a mod, cause that's all it is, bluntly stating that it did that spin like in that real video, when it's only 20-30% true and that only relates to some high AoA spin and the rest is way off-track, is nothing but words for the foul to buy and it disgusted me, personally. Seriously, I say the things as I find them and as they are and I don't care if I get bad replies for that or not. I mean I really enjoy your idea of a this particular mod, but seeing you say some bullshit, only lowered my expectations.
Suggestion:
Either try to redo the maneuver and make it look identical, and it's not hard at all actually if you know how to control a plane, or change that off-track statement or leave it as it is and who understands the differences stands out of the crowd😁.
Wonder if the real Su-30 can do all these things?
7:06 On the left is a real video from the air show.
@@xefirionx7632 😳
Most of them, in some cases better in some cases worse. Overall - yes
Su37 when
There is no Su-37 in DCS 😔
@@CommandT FUCK
Теперь летает как НЛО 🤔
Да он и в реальной жизни летает как НЛО 😅
is this a freeware mod?
Yep but I think you need the Su-33 for it to work
Mihaly livery pls? 😢
What?
@@CommandT From Ace Combat 7, the antagonist plane is an SU-30SM flown by a character named Mihaly (Sol Squadron).
Could it be possible to add that livery in the future, please?
Ah!!
TLDR... still not there.
What?
@@CommandT The FM...
Please fix this, I am dying already...............
1:18 Severe lateral loading of those landing gear legs, the bushings, bearing and tires... oh my. Ask any crew chief.
pretty unrealistic - in a real plane you can not pull that hard
Which part are you talking about. The real airplane is actually capable of pulling up and breaking the airflow over the wings more quickly than the mod can.
Blud,do you know everything about this variant?
Watching your control inputs gives a great window into why the Viper's fly by wire control stick moves very little, to prevent bad habit muscle memory for when you revert back to cable and hydraulics jets. Watch Blue Angel stick and rudder work to get an idea how the control are input in real life flight demos. Get a force feedback stick if you are a new flier in sims, it develops good habits that can be transferred to high g loading flight later, in real life if you are lucky enough to make it a career or even just a hop with someone as a motivational ride. "You have the jet... feel it out put on some g if you want. Whoa! Nice, Chandelle! You sure you've never done this before? You aren't ham fisted like sim kids that get stick time with me, at all!"