I love this Guy, He is so good to listen to about Blue water sailing. Man If I won lotto I know what Id buy. And I bet if you buy a Kraken boat off him he will look after you.
Ever since I learned about Beaumont and Kraken Yachts, my philosophy about large sailboats changed completely. No longer Hallberg-Rassy, Oyster, or Beneteau seem atteactive, but only Kraken boats. I own a vintage Toyota Land Cruiser with a turbo diesel Mercedes-Benz engine, and a 12 year old BMW R1200 Adventure motorcycle, and it dawned on me Kraken boats are the nautical version of my land vehicles. Now, all I need is to find the million Dollar plus to purchase one... : ⁰ )
you can do something similar and much less cost with hank ons on twin headstays and downhauls which gives you good wing-on-wing when running and from the cockpit headsail changing on all reaches (with your genoa on one headstay and your jib on the other).
OK, a silly comment I am sure but why not a square rig set up you could put up and take down? nowadays w/ carbon fiber/ kevlar masts and booms, (yards ? ) it could be light and strong! (i.e., sailing downwind), and stayed popular on ocean-going sailing ships until the end of the Age of Sail. The last commercial sailing ships, windjammers, were usually square-rigged four-masted barques.
i've got to ask (long time longing to sail, never the right situation to do)... "why no ketch?" i thought the ketch was supposed to be the additional backup and quick'n'dirty for getting/keeping going while sorting the rest out. but i'm not seeing ketch in the kraken line (so far).
You mean the forestays? You need a gap as big as possible to make tacking easier and prevent forestay slap in rough seas. On the other had you want the gap as small as possible to maximise Jib area. The 900mm spacing at deck we have now has been worked out to give best performance in all the above fields.
I personally either do not understand the solent rig or I don't like it at all. It is a pest when tacking, why on earth should I furl up the Genoa on each tack? Where is the advantage of a solent in comparison to the honest dear old cutter rig? Honestly, no offense intended, nice boat, cool cruise, but until somebody can prove the advantage of a solent rig to me it would be a no go for me. By the way, of course a furlable Jib can be self tacking, see the Neel 45 for example...
For going to windward you need more stay separation if you wanted to use both headsails efficiently, but then you'd lose the downwind performance because the inner sail couldn't effectively fill the outer. The reason the solent rig works well both off and on the wind is because the jib has all the headstay tension of a fractional sloop jib, and all the size to match as well. And fractional sloops are more efficient to windward than cutters with twin headsails bladed.
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I love this Guy, He is so good to listen to about Blue water sailing. Man If I won lotto I know what Id buy. And I bet if you buy a Kraken boat off him he will look after you.
It’s nice to see a properly setup solent rig!
Ever since I learned about Beaumont and Kraken Yachts, my philosophy about large sailboats changed completely. No longer Hallberg-Rassy, Oyster, or Beneteau seem atteactive, but only Kraken boats. I own a vintage Toyota Land Cruiser with a turbo diesel Mercedes-Benz engine, and a 12 year old BMW R1200 Adventure motorcycle, and it dawned on me Kraken boats are the nautical version of my land vehicles. Now, all I need is to find the million Dollar plus to purchase one... : ⁰ )
The Solent Rig is made of people, PEOPLE!
I love you guys. I'd like some of that baclava too. And that rig is boss!
That first 35 second intro was great! Found this video while trying to learn about solent rigs. bookmarked thanks!
you can do something similar and much less cost with hank ons on twin headstays and downhauls which gives you good wing-on-wing when running and from the cockpit headsail changing on all reaches (with your genoa on one headstay and your jib on the other).
Enjoyed this discussion! Thank you.
Like it!!!
Brilliant.
OK, a silly comment I am sure but why not a square rig set up you could put up and take down? nowadays w/ carbon fiber/ kevlar masts and booms, (yards ? ) it could be light and strong!
(i.e., sailing downwind), and stayed popular on ocean-going sailing ships until the end of the Age of Sail. The last commercial sailing ships, windjammers, were usually square-rigged four-masted barques.
look up the black pearl it has square sails with solar built in also ua-cam.com/video/IdehUFrPmNs/v-deo.html
Poetry in motion
It looks to me solent rigs are great for downwind sailing.
Very cool.
i've got to ask (long time longing to sail, never the right situation to do)... "why no ketch?"
i thought the ketch was supposed to be the additional backup and quick'n'dirty for getting/keeping going while sorting the rest out. but i'm not seeing ketch in the kraken line (so far).
From your point of view, does a solent rig make sense on a ketch ?
It's brilliant and simple. But wouldn't it be better if those two could be placed side by side or at least closer with a minimal gap?
You mean the forestays? You need a gap as big as possible to make tacking easier and prevent forestay slap in rough seas. On the other had you want the gap as small as possible to maximise Jib area. The 900mm spacing at deck we have now has been worked out to give best performance in all the above fields.
goose winged!!!!
I personally either do not understand the solent rig or I don't like it at all. It is a pest when tacking, why on earth should I furl up the Genoa on each tack? Where is the advantage of a solent in comparison to the honest dear old cutter rig?
Honestly, no offense intended, nice boat, cool cruise, but until somebody can prove the advantage of a solent rig to me it would be a no go for me.
By the way, of course a furlable Jib can be self tacking, see the Neel 45 for example...
No running backstays required on a Solent
@@westcountry_sailing Thanks, in one sentence you answered a long standing question for me.
If you are tacking you use the jib and you can tack at will
🤔 twin windward head sails would WIN this set-up, hands down!
For going to windward you need more stay separation if you wanted to use both headsails efficiently, but then you'd lose the downwind performance because the inner sail couldn't effectively fill the outer.
The reason the solent rig works well both off and on the wind is because the jib has all the headstay tension of a fractional sloop jib, and all the size to match as well. And fractional sloops are more efficient to windward than cutters with twin headsails bladed.
So show the Sails set show the Solent rigging and then show the crew rig and hoist the sails. Staged waffle was a waste of everybody’s time.