America's Worst Disaster | Fatal Collisions Over New York City and the Grand Canyon
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- Опубліковано 21 жов 2024
- The Grand Canyon mid-air collision occurred in the western United States on June 30, 1956, when a United Airlines Douglas DC-7 struck a TWA Lockheed L-1049 Super Constellation over Grand Canyon National Park, Arizona. Four years later, a United Airlines Douglas DC-8 collided in mid-air with a TWA Lockheed L-1049 over New York City. These accidents were the world's worst aviation disasters at the time.
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With the possibility of two planes colliding with each other being firmly in place back then, I’m deeply relieved that we live in these times where safety is prevalent. Great vid!
Alas, human stupidity or bias can overwhelm all technology we have , unfortunately :( Check Uberlingen disaster video.
Don’t worry about Bundy getting parole; the death penalty was carried out against him in the 1990s.
You do a disservice to Donbson calling him simple minded.
@@spiritmatter1553 Umm.. incongruous comment???
Jamie finds cockatoos exasperating for the most part, plus she has a bit of fear toward them. I *love* cockatoos, though! They’re nutty and endearing. Faye makes some very interesting noises.
The odds of two commercial aircraft being in the same airspace at the same moment, at the same altitude, in the vast western sky, in 1956....seem infinitesimal. But learning that these aircraft all fly to common waypoints on their routes, thereby potentially bringing them in proximity to other aircraft, does increase the odds substantially. Thankful we have TCAS now.
Yes but the presence of foreign carriers can increase the remote possibility of a crash. Tenerife is a good example.
there were some bald-faced lies: both flights positioned to give the passengers low altitude views of the grand canyon and not at 21k ft, why they collided. the USN/USMC brought that out. and the recovery of remains from the sides of the canyon walls was nearly a year-long process. a real american horror story.
@@em1osmurf Why was the Navy and Marine Corps involved in this?...Nevermind... you answered that question a few comments earlier... tyvm
I was a little girl when TWA and United collided over New York City. My mother was a good friend of one of the passengers.. I can still hear her crying , on the telephone , watching the wreckage on TV and bringing his children to our house so his wife could do what needed to be done.. this affected the way I still feel about flying. I'm terrified. May everyone who has died in any air crash Rest in Peace
I may be off course on this one but I don't think many people realize how much something like this also affects the people on the ground witnessing the horrific crash. I am probably a sissy but after watching things like this, I sometimes can't sleep well or get the images out of my mind. My sympathies to everyone involved. That's got to be very difficult for you remembering. I hope you're doing well regardless and I'm sorry that your mom lost a good friend. Peace 😊
You are probably a very empathetic person.
@@Bird1964 Try watching it inebriated... it will keep your eyes sweating for hours...
@@nobody7817 lol 😆 sounds like quite the trip!!
It’s a big sky, until it’s not.
Looking at a map of the US with little plane symbols showing all the planes currently in the air---is a real eye-opener. The sky is not so big when you see a depiction of the crowded mess up there.
@@margietucker1719 it wasn’t that crowded in 1956
Whether you're in the air, or on the ground, one never knows what can happen within a split second. Stay well, everyone.
Absolutely right. You take care of yourself and your family too.
It more ironic that both airliners would later get involved in another collision just few years later after Grand Canyon collision.
yes, even more surprising thing is that the airlines were same too! I couldn't believe it when i was watching the video
Thank you for your reverence and respect while describing terrible events that not only took lives, but shattered other lives that may still be alive, and watching this for their own closure. TFC is amazing, and deserves much recognition.
yes. my father testified before the committee that this was the most egregious felony ever committed with no one being incarcerated.
@@em1osmurf what felony? What would they be incarcerated for?
A couple of tough days for the T-Way Connies. I think there was a male, adolescent survivor of the NYC collision who was found in a snow bank with severe burns. He was dubbed as something of a miracle boy by the press but unfortunately he died hours after getting to the hospital.
The sole survivor was a child age 11. He had been sitting in the rear of the plane. He was severely burned and died after his parents had a chance to visit him in the hospital.
@@jessicasnaplesfl7474 Poor kid. I can't imagine if it were my son.
@@jessicasnaplesfl7474 What aircraft was the boy in on the NYC collision? TWA or United?
I feel so bad for the boy and his parents.
@@ikeabiscuits5481 He was on the United and excited about flying to New York City to visit relatives. He was found in a snowbank but passed away. He was from Chicago area where his parents put him on the plane.
@@ikeabiscuits5481 The 11-year-old boy was on the airplane that fell in BROOKLYN. He died the next night, after his parents had a chance to visit with him.
Imagine becoming a part of the Grand Canyon..........FOREVER! Beautiful, peaceful place of eternal rest. So sorry for those aboard any ill-fated flight . The loss is always so sudden, and dramatic for surviving family and friends. RIP
It's a sad tragedy, but I am glad you are doing older accidents as well now, this way we do not forget those who perished and survived. These accidents were as real as the one's that happen today and we tend to forget that.
The lessons of those older accidents are what make air travel as safe as it is today.
Both crashes involved United and TWA flights - my god, what a horrific coincidence.
RIP to all who perished.
@Stevi Robinson ?
There are more coincidences than that.
1. The aircraft involved on both crashes are a United Douglas aircraft (UA718 uses DC-7, UA826 uses DC-8) and a TWA Super Constellation.
2. Both United aircraft came from the right side of the TWA Connies and shears the rear fuselage with one of its wings from there, albeit TW266 is more severe as UA826 also ripped out the roof of the front fuselage and the right wing.
3. Both United aircraft manages to stay up for roughly a minute after collision despite having a badly damaged wing and one less outermost engine before impact.
1955-1960 was bad luck in terms of mod air collisions for TWA and United airlines. Two major air disasters, nearly the same number of deaths, both over major sites.
When I was little we lived in California and my grandparents lived in Colorado. We flew the LA to Kansas City flight, landing in Durango, Colorado, shortly after the collision over the Grand Canyon. My mother was terrified. We took the bus back to LA.
Chances of getting killed on the road were humongous, even back then.
@@Focusonbehind Pois é, tenta explicar isso para uma pessoa que acabou de voar e recebe essa notícia pra época?
@@Focusonbehind Yes, we didn't have or wear seatbelts either. Around the very late 1950s/very early 1960s, I witnessed a horrific car accident while riding with my parents. Two cars, everyone dead and covered in sheets in the road. Very, very scary. Thank goodness for seatbelts.
@@patroskybass Especially back then! My Dad was 39 years old when I was born. He had a stubborn streak a mile long, so did my Mom, who was a year older than he. I think people from that generation were very hard headed, and superstitious. (Not that we're much better...)
@@nobody7817 Com certeza, concordo com você
It’s amazing the coincidences that have to happen to cause a tragedy. If that plane in the first story wasn’t 31 minutes late, the accident wouldn’t have occurred. Same with the equipment failure and navigation error in the second story.
They say that air crashes are never caused by one thing but a series of events the absence of just one thing would void the accident.
Even several seconds could have prevented the collision.
Who knows what other close calls have happened in they got lucky and had the separation to avoid a collision. I have a feel there are a lot of those close calls, maybe not all of from the early days known beyond the pilots.
It would be challenging to actually plan an accident like this ..
@@deepthinker999 the butterfly efect
As tragic as these stories are, they are my most looked forward to videos on UA-cam. Credit to you. I have seen every one of them over that past 2 years.
It's so dangerous back in the day when people are still figuring out how to best and safely use new technologies, machineries and methods. Because of these mistakes, the people and the industry demanded better safety and methods.
We learn from our fatal mistakes…
Every safety guideline is written in blood 😔
Because after all the changes in aviation are made from blood..
Imagine surviving WWII and being taken out by a commercial midair collision. Sucks real hard.
What a tragedy to know the passengers of NY bound DC8 flew for several miles knowing they were doomed....RIP....
It's pretty coincidental that I like swiss cheese. Aviation accidents are like that, a lot. Multiple things go wrong and make multiple holes in multiple slices. The only thing that has to happen then for a disaster to take place is for all the created holes to line up. Thank you, TFC, for another amazing video, and I thank the pilots of everyday air travel as well for being able to get the aircraft, and its occupants, to a safe end of flight.
Yeah nowadays there's so many back up systems that there really has to be at least 3 things for a tragedy like this to happen
Meeeeee toooooo.............I ALWAYS acknowledge the Captain and/or the FO if I have the rare chance to see them before the flight or thank them upon disembarking. They deserve so much more credit and respect than what they get. And people today have serious attitude issues. Sometimes I just want to "reach out and touch" some of those people too.....sooo disrespectful
Thank the engineers first.
@Brad James Exactly
The exact opposite is true. Because you watch these videos your opinion might be biased, but for an accident to occur multiple things have to go wrong and line up, it's called the swiss cheese model of flight safety.
I was at the Grand Canyon and saw the exact spot where the crash happened. It's at the Desert View. There's a sign there that tells about it and if you look out you can see the exact spots where each plane went down. It was very eerie.
I was there, too. Seven years old, visiting with my parents. I remember seeing the burned area through binoculars. I also remember the sound of the helicopters flying to the crash site all day long.
@@bombthechaos3916 2022 - 7 = 2015. that was in 1956? burned areas lasted 59 years???? hmm...
@@nobody7817 I don't understand what you are saying. Yes, I was there in 1956 when it happened. I saw the burned area and remember the sound of the big helicopters flying in and out of the Canyon during the recovery effort.
@@bombthechaos3916 Ah... for some reason I read that as you saw it 7 years ago... Sorry for the confusion. It has been a long day for me (I'm not in the US at the moment.).
My grandaunt is Joyce. Today, July 29th, 2022, marks the 1 year anniversy since her death. Its been hard and I miss her. She had so many stories to tell and I loved them! One of her earliest memories is being around 2 and hearing the explosion. I looked at where the plane hit and her address at the time, she lived a few blocks away. She heard the explosion of the plane in NY and remembers it all. Crazy.
A lot of people will call BS on this, but I, too, have memories from that early in life, even earlier, and I'm 58 today. She had an incredible memory.
Have you done one about PSA Flight 182? That midair collision happened about a couple of miles from my home growing up in San Diego. I remember burnt pieces of paper from a book floating down.
he done it you can check
So sad and you as usual did a gorgeous rendition of these disasters. You are just exceptional in your style, the music, the speed of the video, Everything. Thank you 💕
What was really freaking sad for me was that the United plane attempted evasive maneuvers over the Grand Canyon but the collision happened anyway 💔💔💔
That's not surprising. By the time a pilot can visually see a plane on collision course, that pilot usually has almost no chance of actually avoiding that collision.
Although I'm sure time stretches out horribly, as it will when a ton of adrenaline hits your system. 😰 Your brain literally overclocks, in other words, so time appears to slow down.
Edit: I almost got in a head-on with a wrong-way driver (in a big pickup truck) on the freeway (when I was in a compact car).
That was really interesting.
Or that air traffic control warned the TWA plane of the jet in the New York crash yet it was still unable to avoid the crash.
@@grmpEqweer So True !
Always look forward to your Thursday posts. Always well done and professional! 👍
We forget how planes used to sound back 70 years ago, and how they still sounded like WW2 planes. It must have been so noisy inside. It’s amazing how far aircraft has come since then
I fly commercial regularly between Spokane and Portland and most flights on a Bombardier 400Q twin prop. Those things are noisy and on one flight near the wing the floor even vibrated.
Over Christmas 1964 I got to experience both. Left Denver for Portland on a DC8, returned to Denver on a DC7 (propeller). It was noisier on the DC7, but I loved it still, hearing those prop engines roaring, imagining myself in a WW2 bomber over enemy territory.
67 years old now with memories of numerous flights on AA, DC-6 & DC-7 aircraft between LAX & ELP. The cabins were extremely noisy to where normal conversations were hampered excepting face-to-face, side-by-side chatter.
It was dangerous to fly around that time...
All that space to fly in, and you found one another. Sad.
Such tragedies. almost impossible to imagine what the passengers experienced in their last few minutes, knowing they were unstoppably hurtling to their deaths...
Good man, appreciate your efforts. Your videos are flawless, world class. Keep them up.
It’s very disturbing to know that these two crashes happened four years apart but just reversed in different areas and with different airliners. Rest In Pierce to all who perished in these two tragedies✈️
You look out your window and see a plane hurtling toward you. Jesus.
I can't even imagine! Actually I CAN imagine---and it is horrifying.....
I think the helplessness is what really frightens people about air travel. You have an illusion of control when driving.
I say illusion because you're only as safe as the dum-dums driving near you.
Like in Fight Club....
I've seen it... it is a bit scary. Especially when you tell the Stewardess, and she says, "No Problem". At 18 you don't realize, she didn't have time to do anything at all about it... at 58 you think... "wow...how lucky was I?"
@@andrulifts Depends... You can see things that will scare the heck out of you if you have your eyes open.
Constellation, what a beauty!
I don’t believe that, about 10 minutes ago before i opened UA-cam, i just thought about Grand Canyon collision that made me willing to find out more about the accident ! and it appeared right now in the recommended list 🧐
They're reading your mind 🧐
R.I.P for all those on board.😢
Yay you made the video about it nice
Rip all the people who died
It took them so much time to realise that a distance of 1000ft should be set between 2 aircrafts and never at the *SAME* ALTITUDE no matter what direction
As always in life it takes a tragedy to change dangerous systems into safer ones. Wonderful presentation.
The music and the videos giving me nostalgia when I used to watch his videos everyday when I was a kid
You watch this and think how chaotic it was during WWII when they had dog fights in the air.
Excellent presentation TFC!! Thanks!! 👍✈✈👍
Great content as always amazing job buddy
the start vids. my father was involved in the DON/USMC investigations around the grand canyon collision. several marines were enroute home with discharges post-dated after that date and died there. the families sued the US govt for vets rights--and won. the shitstorm that caused was the end of some very senior people's careers.
Ok... you just answered my question! Wow... I mean WOW! (I was in the Corps for 22.5 years...)
Amazing Content! As always
Beautiful planes back then. 💔
Yeah.
just bad luck on that first collision! four very good pilots....all on the same page was fate! THXX TFC
Jeez. However, the DC8 is a beautiful aircraft 🖤
Superb work mate. Excellent video. 👍👍
Another great video
As usual terrific presentation, you keep impressing us. Weel done.
Condolences for all unfortunate loss of lives
True story, there are actually still some pieces of that plane wreckage in remote areas in the bottom of the canyon. They couldn't get all the pieces out so they just left them.
Im back! I enjoy this video! Last video i watched of yours was December 2020
T.F.C Awesome video 👍
Maybe next time mention any one on the ground killed by these collisions(like the 6 people who died when the DC-8 hit Brooklyn).
Great vid, thanks as always
18:46 yet, we had two mid-air collisions in the span of four years (2002 and 2006).
Fantastic detail on these videos ..
Any loss of life is always tragic. This shouldn't have happened.
ok osama.....wait
You are alive XD
So heartbreaking
Congrats on another amazing video.
I'm a ride share driver in Chicago. A few years ago I gave a ride to a lady who was a little girl at the time of the Grand Canyon crash. Her father was aboard the Constellation.
Of those three factors mentioned, my gut tells me it's the third. I was already thinking that both could have been distracted or complacent while attempting to show scenery, thus giving them common way points. The odds of this happening back then had to have been low otherwise.
My family flew to Japan & back in the late 60s. I see how lucky we were.
Accidents were rare even back then. Don't congratulate yourself.
@@internetcensure5849 that was an unnecessarily mean comment. Have some respect. I hope you feel better about yourself soon.
You already did this right?
My goodness all that sky and planes still hit each other…..I never want to get on one again.
Haven't you already covered these two incidents before?
I confirm I already saw both accidents.
I thought I was the only one who was thinking this....
I've just checked: yes, both accidents have been covered before on this channel: in 2019 and 2020.
I think this is kind of a special video focused on midair collision. He did sth like that a while ago with crashes where the flight crew and passengers passed out mid flight
18:15 Interesting shot of the 1990’s White House with the Washington monument undergoing maintenance in the background. Beautiful visuals of the Grand Canyon, too. Nice job all around. Thank God such deadly accidents are less likely to to take place in current times.
Hey, you suckered me into a dawn dish soap ad! 😆
Head on collision happened in 2002 over Germany.🤣
Man that Conny is such a beautiful airplane. That sound ! What tragedy. Not good.
so both crashes happened with UAL and TWA, and both times total number of passengers + crew was 128 ...
that's so eerie...
So sad, but amazing video's as always!
There was one initial survivor - an 11 year old boy who was thrown into a snow bank, but had inhaled burning fuel, and was badly burned, and died the next day from pneumonia
1956: 2:04... that's a time-warped Van there!
Pretty modern looking King nav radio for a DC-7.
Excellent 😊
"The Crowded Sky" by Hank Searls. So good
I really thought you'd covered this case before. Regardless, wonderful, informative video! Truly appreciate it.
He did, this is either a reupload or a remake
I was 7 living in suburb of Chicago at the time of the NYC crash. I remember TV was interrupted and they put on a "crawl" of the names of the dead from the Chicago plane on the news. I could be wrong but it *seemed* like they did that late the same day of the event; I remember my house was very solemn when that accident happened. My Dad was a designer for Sears and flew a lot - there was concern he might've known someone on that flight. 📺
The older generations were like that. My Dad was a WWII vet. I remember during Vietnam, he would watch the news nightly. When the dead were announced, you better not make a sound. He was going through the names with a pen and paper in hand. If he recognized a name--you can bet that a call was being placed to 411 or to HQMC (Head Quarters Marine Corps). I grew up hating that conflict because I didn't understand it, and could not figure out why it had to impact our lives at home. Now I just despise conflict. (Yes, I too, spent 22.5 years in the USMC).
Actually a young boy that was on that plane that crashed in Brooklyn was alive but later died at hospital also was to leave a week early but waited to get over a cold bad luck.
Burns over 70% of his body that admitted infection into his system. Poor little guy.
😍 your videos. Suggestion: crop out the black bars (top & bottom) from your video. My device treats them as content so it doesn't crop correctly.
Damn,crashes for TWA never stops
I'll never gonna fly with them.
@@merckmaguddayao6814 twa flies no more
902 Charlie doesn’t match either. It was a white, blunt nose 1049 with red lettering and stripes over natural metal.
What software do you use for the simulation? Is that Microsoft? XPlane??
I found out by happenstance that I had a 2nd cousin who was a flight attendant on the UAL plane that crashed in Park Slope. A couple of years ago I was visiting my grandparent's grave when I noticed a headstone a few feet away with a picture of a jet airplane etched into it (an unusual thing that caught my eye), and she had a familiar family-related last name. I was in the midst of doing family research at the time, and found out who she was and the circumstances. It happened before I was born, so never heard anyone mention it. Stumbling upon this video is kind of a coincidence. I wasn't really looking for it, just came up on the sidebar when I was looking at another video.
Was she Augustine Louise Ferrar?
Excellent video! Thank you! ✈️ #flysafe
plz also make a video on the recent incident of 2 PIA aircrafts avoiding a near collision over Iran
So sad. The wreckage pieces can still be seen today in the GC.
Not a Constellation!!
A SUPER CONSTELLATION!!!!!
Nice video🥺👍 plane collisions are very sad... I must think on the 1.7.2002 where over Überlingen a DHL Boeing 757 and a Tupolev Tu154M from Bashkirian Airlines collide🥺
I have a Idea for a New Video... can you made in the next time TANS Peru 204?
Climb to 21,000 is not allowed so the pilot decided to do it anyways by hiding it as cloud level + 1000. That is what caused the collision.
I'm so glad to live in an era of technology such that, if an aircraft calls "approaching preston" and is in fact past preston, approach can see that accurately and say "no you're not, fly heading 090 vectors for traffic"
I really like this channel videos. They are great. But it made me wonder how, in the 1950s, they were able to say that both airplanes deviated from the same cloud? Was there CVR in 1954?
You are doing a great job flight channel seeing notification and here I'm the first comment 😀
gg bro
Its casual that in the 2 crashes where an united and TWA
For the Grand Canyon crash, a magazine of that era (Popular Science maybe?)
demanded that aircraft be in radio contact with Air Traffic Control for the entirety of their flight.
16:47 hey, I remember that from the trailer!
Repeated Video Bro!
I love those old aircraft
The impact sequence doesn't make sense to me. If the DC-7 crew puts the aircraft into a RIGHT roll & dive which would raise the left wing, how does it's left aileron get damaged by an aircraft passing below it?? Also, if that's the 1st impact, apparently by the "middle fin"/tail, how does the DC-7's left wing THEN "impact the upper aft fuselage" of the Connie?? If the United flight was in straight & level flight, & the Connie struck it forward of the leading edge well ok then. Also, if that was the 1st impact, ok...but the text says the 1st impact was w/the center fin/tail of the Connie. How then is the 2nd impact when the DC-7's left wing (which should be on the high side), THEN impact the upper rear of the Connie when supposedly the 1st impact involved the tail of the Connie?? If it were reversed like say the 1st impact was the left wing of the DC-7 struck the upper aft portion of the Connie & THEN the 2nd impact was the middle fin of the Connie which damaged the left aileron of the DC-7 (even though I'm still tryin' to figure that out since the DC-7 was in a right bank & dive) then that'd make sense. Just feels like the text got the 1st & 2nd impacts backwards, but I'm probably incorrect, ha. Feedback appreciated 👍😉.
It doesn't bother me if the united aricraft isn't an exact model of accident aircraft .think u for the video look forward to seeing more