How "Bible Alone" Allowed Slavery
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- Опубліковано 28 вер 2022
- Don Johnson, author of Twisted Unto Destruction, explains his claims that slavery and racism have been enabled by and are linked to the Protestant “Bible Alone” theology.
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Also those anti-Catholic pamphlets and literature were very merciless. Pure slander.
Catholics are never victims. We have Christ. One prevalent modern Catholic flaw is to start to see ourselves as victims and participate in modern victim culture.
Chick tracts are terrible!!!
Absolutely
Those are the best
@@jonnbobo - to laugh at for being ignorant yeah lol 😆
US Catholics had slaves, a Jesuit school in MD had slaves, Italian Catholics had slaves up until the 1800s.. I still am glad that the Catholic Church always taught the personhood of all, which the Protestants didn't always do, but I don't think we can downplay our own guilt
The Maryland jesuits are an interesting case.
When they had slaves why did they have them?
Did they mistreat them brutally or did they actually rescue them from brutality using the law of the time?.
And when they were sold, it appears that was the act of a liquidator and not a voluntary act by the Jesuits themselves.
If so, then it is disingenuous (not of you btw) for those who wish to damage the church to claim that the church was involved in slaving.
That's my 2 cents on that matter anyway.
He literally said there were catholics who where involved within the first 2 minutes
@@NevetsWC1134 he made it sound like only ex-communicated Catholics engaged in the practice of slavery. Well, technically he said slave trade- so to give the benefit of the doubt that maybe he meant not the owning of slaves or even the buying of slaves, but just the selling of slaves alone- that's still not 100% true. I'll give one significant example: the 1838 Jesuit Slave Sale in Maryland
@@wolfthequarrelsome504 It sounds like their slaves were treated significantly better and also because of official Catholic teaching, even Catholic missionaries were trying to evangelize the Native Americans when the English were only interested in slaughtering them. I don't want my first comment to come across as an attack against the Church by any means, I just would hate for any Catholic apologetics to be accused of being disingenuous
@@NevetsWC1134 - His history is genuinely awful. Catholics were generally not slave traders, although they did own them. There is different group with deep ties to both the Arab and Atlantic slave trade, but you will get banned for naming them.
Sola Scriptura has always been a flimsy excuse made by people who selectively pick which parts of the Bible to follow.
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Usually emphasizing Pauls letters, and ignoring entire swaths of Jesus' own words....❤️🙏❤️
Sounds like Catholic projecting cope
@@__Jesus_is_God__ No it isn't. For the first 300 years, you didn't even have the full Bible. You were lucky to have a few books, Gospels, or letters. They only came out with the full Bible (all the books in one collection) 300 years after the Church was first created by Jesus Christ. But prior to that, you had the Didache and Church tradition guiding people, and said tradition is what spawned the Bible in the first place.
Super flimsy when Jesus only used scriptures in the wilderness after receiving the Holy Spirit.
I am a fully orthodox Catholic who loves the Church, but I do think the Church really messed up on the issue of slavery. The slave trade was condemned, but the practice of slavery was not condemned until the late 1800s, after most nations in the West had banned it. The Church often stands up for what is right on many unpopular issues, but I feel like we didn't on this one.
Amen. And from my faithful Black Catholic experience church leadership is still not standing up on the issue of racism and white supremacy that are the fruits of slavery. Thank God taht he "church" is not just the old white men who largely are currently leading it. True Spirit led Catholics of all races have stood up more often than we know against racism even when the leadership was led by the devil on the issue. Blessings.
Great topic. You should do another one!
Thank you, gentlemen, for clearly breaking this down.
Ephesians 6:5, Colossians 3:22.
*Doctrine of Discovery has entered the chat*
Can you please explain Dum Diversas & Romanus Pontifex please?
So did anyone talk about the slave trade of the medieval era, all the Catholic Europeans who found themselves slaves of the Ottomans? Anyone? Any interest who ran that slave trade, along with the Atlantic one? It's a historic occupation for a certain group of people. Maybe it's not "sola scriptura".
The Catholic Church has always condemned Slavery. Many of those so called Catholics were excommunicated…
He literally said catholics had slaves in the 1st 2 minutes of the video. He also said the Catholic Church itself was against the slave trade.. But that doesn't mean catholics themselves didn't have slaves
@@NevetsWC1134 Debunking catholicism
I'm more blessed than mary
Proof = Luke 11:27-28
27 And it happened, as He spoke these things, that a certain woman from the crowd raised her voice and said to Him, “Blessed is the womb that bore You, and the breasts which nursed You!”
28 But He said, “More than that, blessed are those who hear the word of God and keep it!”
In Luke 11:27 that random woman LITERALLY said Jesus your mother is Blessed, but are Lord Jesus LITERALLY said Believers are more Blessed than mary. Amen and Amen
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CHRIST alone
John 14:6 Jesus said to him, “I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me.
ACTS 4:12 Nor is there salvation in any other, for there is no other name under heaven given among men by which we must be saved.”
There is only One Mediator between God and men, LORD Jesus Christ= 1 Timothy 2:5
For there is one God and one Mediator between God and men, the Man Christ Jesus.
Hebrew 9:15 And for this reason He is the Mediator of the new covenant, by means of death, for the redemption of the transgressions under the first covenant, that those who are called may receive the promise of the eternal inheritance.
Hebrew 12:24 to Jesus the Mediator of the new covenant, and to the blood of sprinkling that speaks better things than that of Abel.
Hebrew 8:6 But now He has obtained a more excellent ministry, inasmuch as He is also Mediator of a better covenant, which was established on better promises.
Ephesians 2:18 For through Him we both have access by One Spirit to the Father
John 15:5
5 “I am the vine, you are the branches. He who abides in Me, and I in him, bears much fruit; for without Me you can do nothing.
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Work of God =
John 6:28 Then they said to Him, “What shall we do, that we may work the works of God?”
29 Jesus answered and said to them, “This is the work of God, that you believe in Him whom He sent.”
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1 Timothy 3:2 A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, temperate, sober-minded, of good behavior, hospitable, able to teach
Paul allows bishops to get marry, but catholic church goes against paul.
Now these catholic will give a Verses from 1 Corinthians7 to say that paul gave the advice to stay unmarried. But they will not tell you that the same chapter they quote says 1 Corinthians 7:28 "even if you do marry, you have not SINNED". The passage literally says "young women, young men" and a bishop is supposed to be a Church ELDER. Mic drop
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Jesus said Matthew 23:9
9 Do not call anyone on earth your father; for One is your Father, He who is in heaven.
And also said Holy Father to Heavenly Father= John 17:11
11 Now I am no longer in the world, but these are in the world, and I come to You. Holy Father, keep through Your name those whom You have given Me, that they may be one as We are.
Jesus said call no one Father but still catholics call *pope holy father.
Sad
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Whenever a catholic argue about mary being the mother of God
Use this to defeat the argument.
Luke 8:21 But He answered and said to them, “My mother and My brothers are these who hear the word of God and do it.”
Matthew 12:46-50
46 While He was still talking to the multitudes, behold, His mother and brothers stood outside, seeking to speak with Him. 47 Then one said to Him, “Look, Your mother and Your brothers are standing outside, seeking to speak with You.”
48 But He answered and said to the one who told Him, “Who is My mother and who are My brothers?” 49 And He stretched out His hand toward His disciples and said, “Here are My mother and My brothers! 50 For whoever does the will of My Father in heaven is My brother and sister and mother.”.
Mark 3:35 For whoever does the will of God is My brother and My sister and mother.”
John 19:26-27
26 When Jesus therefore saw His mother, and the disciple whom He loved standing by, He said to His mother, “Woman, behold your son!” 27 Then He said to the disciple, “Behold your mother!” And from that hour that disciple took her to his own home. ( Jesus basically said John is the son of mary, and mary is the mother of John from that time onwards).
By the way sarah is the mother of all proof=Galatians 4:21-26.
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We should not pray to apostles
Romans 1:25
25 who exchanged the truth of God for the lie, and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever. Amen.
Acts 10:25-26
25 As Peter was coming in, Cornelius met him and fell down at his feet and worshiped him. 26 But Peter lifted him up, saying, “Stand up; I myself am also a man.”
Acts 14:15
15 and saying, “Men, why are you doing these things? We also are men with the same nature as you, and preach to you that you should turn from these useless things to the living God, who made the heaven, the earth, the sea, and all things that are in them,
Revelation 19:10
10 And I fell at his feet to worship him. But he said to me, “See that you do not do that! I am your fellow servant, and of your brethren who have the testimony of Jesus. Worship God! For the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy.”
Revelation 22:8-9
8 Now I, John, saw and heard these things. And when I heard and saw, I fell down to worship before the feet of the angel who showed me these things.
9 Then he said to me, “See that you do not do that. For I am your fellow servant, and of your brethren the prophets, and of those who keep the words of this book. Worship God."
Colossians 2:18
18 Let no one cheat you of your reward, taking delight in false humility and worship of angels, intruding into those things which he has not seen, vainly puffed up by his fleshly mind,
You cannot go to Father through saints nor mary, you can only go to the Father through Lord Jesus Christ= John 14:6 Jesus said to him, “I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me.
Ephesians 2:18 For through Him we both have access by one Spirit to the Father.
Holy Spirit intercedes for us=Romans 8:26
26 Likewise the Spirit also helps in our weaknesses. For we do not know what we should pray for as we ought, but the Spirit Himself makes intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered.
And CHRIST as well=Romans 8:34
34 Who is he who condemns? It is Christ who died, and furthermore is also risen, who is even at the right hand of God, who also makes intercession for us.
Hebrews 7:25
25 Therefore He is also able to save to the uttermost those who come to God through Him, since He always lives to make intercession for them.
It's Christ and Holy Spirit who intercedes for us not apostles
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Apostles are allowed to marry,
1 Corinthians 9:1-5
1 Am I not an apostle? Am I not free? Have I not seen Jesus Christ our Lord? Are you not my work in the Lord? 2 If I am not an apostle to others, yet doubtless I am to you. For you are the seal of my apostleship in the Lord.
3 My defense to those who examine me is this: 4 Do we have no right to eat and drink? 5 Do we have no right to take along a believing wife, as do also the other apostles, the brothers of the Lord, and Cephas?
If Peter (peter is cephas read John 1:42) the so called "first pope" was married, why does the catholic church doesn't allow "pope" to marry?
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The so called vicar of christ/ pope/holy father Peter called himself a fellow elder in 1 Peter 5:1, and as per the qualifications of elder in Titus 1:5-9 the elder is allowed to get married; then why does the "pope" is required to be celibate and catholic? ( when Peter was neither celibate nor catholic).
1)Peter was not perfect human nor was he a perfect disciple
2)He sank down while walking on water
3)Our Lord said to peter get behind me satan
4)Peter reject our Lord 3 times
5)Our Lord rebuked Peter for calling fire from heaven
6)Our Lord rebuked Peter when he cut of the soilders ear
7)Paul rebuked Peter for being hypocrite because he was acting different in front of Jews and different in front of gentiles.
8) Moses messed up, and he was a important part of Bible ( that's why he never entered the promised land),
9)David messed up ( and he has the Holy Spirit),
10)King Soloman messed up,
11) Saul messed up and God regretted the decision (1 Samuel 15:10-11).
Hatrick (Saul then David then Soloman back to back messed up)
12)The apostles run away a day before Lord Jesus got locked up.
13)The early church messed up Rev 2:18-20, 1 Corinthians, Galatians.
14) Apostle John when receiving Revelation worshiped an angel and the angel said "see you do not do that. Worship GOD" Revelation 22:8-9
If these great people could mess up, why do you think the catholic church wouldn't mess up.
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Galatians 4:21-26
21 Tell me, you who desire to be under the law, do you not hear the law? 22 For it is written that Abraham had two sons: the one by a bondwoman, the other by a freewoman. 23 But he who was of the bondwoman was born according to the flesh, and he of the freewoman through promise, 24 which things are symbolic. For these are the two covenants: the one from Mount Sinai which gives birth to bondage, which is Hagar- 25 for this Hagar is Mount Sinai in Arabia, and corresponds to Jerusalem which now is, and is in bondage with her children- 26 but the Jerusalem above is free, which is the mother of us all.
Sarah is mother of all, Not mary
Also the Church has many name like Christians, Evangelists, Children of God, Believers, servents of God, bride of Christ, but not once the Church is called catholics
Changed the 10 commandments by deleting 2nd commandment, and dividing the 10th into 2 commandments. Also changing the real Saturday Sabbath to fake sunday sabbath.
@@mynameis......23 So you keep running, posting that, unable to explain why people would ignore the Church Jesus founded and listen to someone who confusedly thinks Christians were under Jewish Sabbath and dietary laws.
Seventh Day Adventism is less than 200 old. You aren't going to replace the Catholic Church by copy-pastying from their Bible and demanding it mean things no Christian believed. Jesus founded a Church, he sent out apostles and made disciples. SDA has no connection with that tradition.
You need to explain yourself. Why so boldly try to twist the Bible to reject Jesus' religion rather than just learning about the religion (which doesn't include studying SDA distortions trying to take you away from Christianity). Remember, if Jesus thought people needed SDA to correct his Church, he would have founded SDA before the 1800's. He founded the Catholic Church. Doesn't seem like it would have been difficult to also found SDA, but he didn't. That's why we know Christianity isn't up for debate between the group Jesus founded and a 19th century cult that doesn't even know what early Christianity looked like.
Of course there is.
Where not all Americans, you know.
So we all agree that our ethics should not be based on iron age myths.
Knowing what the Black Legend is is fundamental in this sort of discussion if leads to speaking of European colonization.
Is the Black Legend just another handy historic cudgel to inform Europeans they only have original sin? If so, I never needed to know.
@@atrifle8364 No, its real targets were the Spanish, the Catholics or both.
We're missing a key group here that also belongs at the table of guilt
Who?
@Ventura why
@Ventura not really because you'd have to demonstrate their population size at the time, the % of them who owned slaves, and then have it compared with other groups to see how significant, consistent or insignificant it is with data on other groups,
So merely pointing towards individual cases doesn't really say anything without having comparative data
A Protestant step family member of mine justified the genocide of Native Americans using Bible Alone Theology by referencing the Israelite conquests of Canaan.
Its strange how the whole ‘Black Slavery was invented by a Spanish Bishop’ thing was completely irrelevant to this discussion…
You guys want to talk about the Doctrine of Discovery or the treatment of natives in the missions? Protestants can admit faults and don't have to double down on everything we did wrong in the past and we also don't have to come up with all sorts post hoc rationalizations to explain how we didn't make any moral errors when we obviously did. :) cheers
We baptized our Indian and African slaves and made them fellow Catholics. You guys couldn't accept the Cherokee even though they were slave-owning Protestants.
@@HolyknightVader999 that's simply not true. But even if it were, "We kept them as slaves, but still baptized them!" contradicts the rosy picture the papists in the video are presenting.
@@barelyprotestant5365 Catholics have rights in the same Church. A priest can't say no when a Catholoc asks them for help, and mistreating a Catholic slave will reflect poorly on a Catholic master. This isn't like Protestantism where they can act as if Cherokee and African Christians aren't their family. In Catholicism, you're one big happy family whether you like it or not, and God will judge you all the same, master or slave. So unless you want God to make you into rotisserie chicken in hell, you will have to treat your fellow Catholics well, even if they are slaves, for both slave and master are part of the mystical Body of Christ on Earth, since they both receive the Body of Christ at Mass.
@@HolyknightVader999 and we were wrong, my point remains unaddressed lol
@@JRMusic933 The natives helped us conquer the new world. If anything, those natives were just as barbaric as their Spanish Conquistador buddies. Who do you think helped them genocide the Aztecs and Incas? And again, the brutality we showed them was nowhere near as evil as the Trail of Tears. We still embraced those natives on those missions as our own. And they served the Spanish crown loyally for 300 years.
As an honest Christian, I have to admit that slavery is generally one of those practices which have been confirmed as a moral law in the New Covenant, so even though such practices as slave-trading or unfair treatment of the war-captives/criminals in Christianity are immoral, still the slave-labour itself and use of force against a slave are moral options, or in some cases even a necessity for a Christian.
Will you ever change your opinion on this ?
@@Bugsy0333 Only if someone brings a good argument, but I doubt that there is one.
What?...as a Christian? 😆
Your self interpretation of scripture has turned you into a monster.
@paherne1 Scriptures is very clear on slavery it is not only endorsed but it also provides a set of instructions on how it shall be carried out.
This is a no-brainer.
@@Bugsy0333 Correct, although one needs a solid method/outside source for the interpretation to be objective and potentially authentic.
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Well, protestant groups introduced some fundamental rights like the freedom of religion where the Catholic Church took very long to acknowledge. Furthermore protestant churches were heavily involved in the civil rights movement. So I think that sola scriptura isn’t the black-and-white it’s presented here. But the essence of the argument is indeed valid: without a higher interpreting instance you can interpret very much into the Bible to justify your own actions. But if this higher instance is corrupted or stuck in their way of thinking, equally horrible abuse of power may occur.
There were no protestants when freedom of religion was first granted to Catholics.
Just the old word for protestants
"heretics"..opps
@@wolfthequarrelsome504 that’s obviously wrong, baptists fought for the freedom of religion way before Vatican 2 made it a universal right.
it's funny when they say needs to be properly interept by the Catholic church, but they have had 1500 years still have not done it only passages the pope has chosen to do
This guy doesn't have a clue what he's talking about, lol. What a foolish point of view. Slavery has existed from the beginning of time, as in, it's the old standard of labour before modern monetary policies, banking and corporations, etc, made the slave trade obsolete. Slaves still exist today, employed in such occupations as food service, clothing and manufacturing, construction, and others, mainly in developing nations where they are largely unseen. Paying someone a couple dollars per hour doesn't make them any less a slave, except for the fact the old social contract of master/slave and ownership is obsolete and irrelevant.
What does "modern monetary policies, banking and corporations, " have to do with abolishing slavery?
What do you mean by these as all three existed when we had slavery.
The laws governing non-Hebrew slaves were more harsh than those governing Hebrew slaves: non-Hebrew slaves could be owned permanently, and bequeathed to the owner's children, whereas Hebrew slaves were treated as servants, and were released after six years of service or the occurrence of a jubilee year.
If you are paid….you arent a slave.
@@johnyang1420 I don't think so.
I think if you are owned you are a slave. If you are someone's property.
If I own you and pay you, you are still a slave. If you consider pay could be something as simple as food.
Since I feed my slaves I am 'paying' them. If you don't work... you don't get 'payed'.
I think some slaves were actually paid a wage because some paid for their freedom. I'm not totally sure on that though.
Same as for peasants who were tied to the land.
This is straight nonsense and I’m black.
Catholics were not slave traders, historically speaking. In fact you missed a huge group who was, and it's easy to make a case for their cultural alignment with Puritans. But either way this is a myopic take on history that aligns 100% with tearing down all European Christians in the modern culture.
What was the title before??
@@danielreyes6980 - The title was something like "Can sola scriptura cause slavery and racism?". I commented originally on the hideous click bait title. I finally listened to this 7 minute clip. It's history is so bad that it might have been done by an atheist communist, hostile Catholicism.
Bull Romanus pontifex
Debunking catholicism
I'm more blessed than mary
Proof = Luke 11:27-28
27 And it happened, as He spoke these things, that a certain woman from the crowd raised her voice and said to Him, “Blessed is the womb that bore You, and the breasts which nursed You!”
28 But He said, “More than that, blessed are those who hear the word of God and keep it!”
In Luke 11:27 that random woman LITERALLY said Jesus your mother is Blessed, but are Lord Jesus LITERALLY said Believers are more Blessed than mary. Amen and Amen
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CHRIST alone
John 14:6 Jesus said to him, “I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me.
ACTS 4:12 Nor is there salvation in any other, for there is no other name under heaven given among men by which we must be saved.”
There is only One Mediator between God and men, LORD Jesus Christ= 1 Timothy 2:5
For there is one God and one Mediator between God and men, the Man Christ Jesus.
Hebrew 9:15 And for this reason He is the Mediator of the new covenant, by means of death, for the redemption of the transgressions under the first covenant, that those who are called may receive the promise of the eternal inheritance.
Hebrew 12:24 to Jesus the Mediator of the new covenant, and to the blood of sprinkling that speaks better things than that of Abel.
Hebrew 8:6 But now He has obtained a more excellent ministry, inasmuch as He is also Mediator of a better covenant, which was established on better promises.
Ephesians 2:18 For through Him we both have access by One Spirit to the Father
John 15:5
5 “I am the vine, you are the branches. He who abides in Me, and I in him, bears much fruit; for without Me you can do nothing.
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Work of God =
John 6:28 Then they said to Him, “What shall we do, that we may work the works of God?”
29 Jesus answered and said to them, “This is the work of God, that you believe in Him whom He sent.”
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1 Timothy 3:2 A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, temperate, sober-minded, of good behavior, hospitable, able to teach
Paul allows bishops to get marry, but catholic church goes against paul.
Now these catholic will give a Verses from 1 Corinthians7 to say that paul gave the advice to stay unmarried. But they will not tell you that the same chapter they quote says 1 Corinthians 7:28 "even if you do marry, you have not SINNED". The passage literally says "young women, young men" and a bishop is supposed to be a Church ELDER. Mic drop
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Jesus said Matthew 23:9
9 Do not call anyone on earth your father; for One is your Father, He who is in heaven.
And also said Holy Father to Heavenly Father= John 17:11
11 Now I am no longer in the world, but these are in the world, and I come to You. Holy Father, keep through Your name those whom You have given Me, that they may be one as We are.
Jesus said call no one Father but still catholics call *pope holy father.
Sad
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Whenever a catholic argue about mary being the mother of God
Use this to defeat the argument.
Luke 8:21 But He answered and said to them, “My mother and My brothers are these who hear the word of God and do it.”
Matthew 12:46-50
46 While He was still talking to the multitudes, behold, His mother and brothers stood outside, seeking to speak with Him. 47 Then one said to Him, “Look, Your mother and Your brothers are standing outside, seeking to speak with You.”
48 But He answered and said to the one who told Him, “Who is My mother and who are My brothers?” 49 And He stretched out His hand toward His disciples and said, “Here are My mother and My brothers! 50 For whoever does the will of My Father in heaven is My brother and sister and mother.”.
Mark 3:35 For whoever does the will of God is My brother and My sister and mother.”
John 19:26-27
26 When Jesus therefore saw His mother, and the disciple whom He loved standing by, He said to His mother, “Woman, behold your son!” 27 Then He said to the disciple, “Behold your mother!” And from that hour that disciple took her to his own home. ( Jesus basically said John is the son of mary, and mary is the mother of John from that time onwards).
By the way sarah is the mother of all proof=Galatians 4:21-26.
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We should not pray to apostles
Romans 1:25
25 who exchanged the truth of God for the lie, and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever. Amen.
Acts 10:25-26
25 As Peter was coming in, Cornelius met him and fell down at his feet and worshiped him. 26 But Peter lifted him up, saying, “Stand up; I myself am also a man.”
Acts 14:15
15 and saying, “Men, why are you doing these things? We also are men with the same nature as you, and preach to you that you should turn from these useless things to the living God, who made the heaven, the earth, the sea, and all things that are in them,
Revelation 19:10
10 And I fell at his feet to worship him. But he said to me, “See that you do not do that! I am your fellow servant, and of your brethren who have the testimony of Jesus. Worship God! For the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy.”
Revelation 22:8-9
8 Now I, John, saw and heard these things. And when I heard and saw, I fell down to worship before the feet of the angel who showed me these things.
9 Then he said to me, “See that you do not do that. For I am your fellow servant, and of your brethren the prophets, and of those who keep the words of this book. Worship God."
Colossians 2:18
18 Let no one cheat you of your reward, taking delight in false humility and worship of angels, intruding into those things which he has not seen, vainly puffed up by his fleshly mind,
You cannot go to Father through saints nor mary, you can only go to the Father through Lord Jesus Christ= John 14:6 Jesus said to him, “I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me.
Ephesians 2:18 For through Him we both have access by one Spirit to the Father.
Holy Spirit intercedes for us=Romans 8:26
26 Likewise the Spirit also helps in our weaknesses. For we do not know what we should pray for as we ought, but the Spirit Himself makes intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered.
And CHRIST as well=Romans 8:34
34 Who is he who condemns? It is Christ who died, and furthermore is also risen, who is even at the right hand of God, who also makes intercession for us.
Hebrews 7:25
25 Therefore He is also able to save to the uttermost those who come to God through Him, since He always lives to make intercession for them.
It's Christ and Holy Spirit who intercedes for us not apostles
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Apostles are allowed to marry,
1 Corinthians 9:1-5
1 Am I not an apostle? Am I not free? Have I not seen Jesus Christ our Lord? Are you not my work in the Lord? 2 If I am not an apostle to others, yet doubtless I am to you. For you are the seal of my apostleship in the Lord.
3 My defense to those who examine me is this: 4 Do we have no right to eat and drink? 5 Do we have no right to take along a believing wife, as do also the other apostles, the brothers of the Lord, and Cephas?
If Peter (peter is cephas read John 1:42) the so called "first pope" was married, why does the catholic church doesn't allow "pope" to marry?
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The so called vicar of christ/ pope/holy father Peter called himself a fellow elder in 1 Peter 5:1, and as per the qualifications of elder in Titus 1:5-9 the elder is allowed to get married; then why does the "pope" is required to be celibate and catholic? ( when Peter was neither celibate nor catholic).
1)Peter was not perfect human nor was he a perfect disciple
2)He sank down while walking on water
3)Our Lord said to peter get behind me satan
4)Peter reject our Lord 3 times
5)Our Lord rebuked Peter for calling fire from heaven
6)Our Lord rebuked Peter when he cut of the soilders ear
7)Paul rebuked Peter for being hypocrite because he was acting different in front of Jews and different in front of gentiles.
8) Moses messed up, and he was a important part of Bible ( that's why he never entered the promised land),
9)David messed up ( and he has the Holy Spirit),
10)King Soloman messed up,
11) Saul messed up and God regretted the decision (1 Samuel 15:10-11).
Hatrick (Saul then David then Soloman back to back messed up)
12)The apostles run away a day before Lord Jesus got locked up.
13)The early church messed up Rev 2:18-20, 1 Corinthians, Galatians.
14) Apostle John when receiving Revelation worshiped an angel and the angel said "see you do not do that. Worship GOD" Revelation 22:8-9
If these great people could mess up, why do you think the catholic church wouldn't mess up.
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Galatians 4:21-26
21 Tell me, you who desire to be under the law, do you not hear the law? 22 For it is written that Abraham had two sons: the one by a bondwoman, the other by a freewoman. 23 But he who was of the bondwoman was born according to the flesh, and he of the freewoman through promise, 24 which things are symbolic. For these are the two covenants: the one from Mount Sinai which gives birth to bondage, which is Hagar- 25 for this Hagar is Mount Sinai in Arabia, and corresponds to Jerusalem which now is, and is in bondage with her children- 26 but the Jerusalem above is free, which is the mother of us all.
Sarah is mother of all, Not mary
Also the Church has many name like Christians, Evangelists, Children of God, Believers, servents of God, bride of Christ, but not once the Church is called catholics
Changed the 10 commandments by deleting 2nd commandment, and dividing the 10th into 2 commandments. Also changing the real Saturday Sabbath to fake sunday sabbath.
Don't you have anything better to do?
Luke 11,27 dose not say anyone is more literally as you said blessed than Jesus mother . It’s says and read it correctly 28 but he said blessed rather are those who hear the word of God and keep it the blessed Virgin Mary was blessed even before she gave birth . Jesus did not say you people are more blessed than my mother as you said . In fact she shares in the blessedness of those who hear the word of God and keep it , and it is in that true blessedness lies . As I said it is not depicted and apply precisely to Mary does it . She is depicted as exemplary hearer of Gods word as the handmaiden of the lord who says yes to the will of God as the blessed one who is nothing of herself but gains everything through Gods goodness. ITS TYPICAL THAT PROTESTANT JUST TAKE A VERSE LIKE THIS AND SAY YEAH THIS HIS HOW TO INTERPRET IT . I AM MORE BLESSED THAN MARY .
@@jayjayg7585 it's unreasonable to claim that those blessed by hearing and obeying the word of God (Luke 11:28) are less blessed than Mary. Has God not claimed as His own children those who have been saved by His blood? Does Mary have more of Jesus' blood than another child of God? Jesus loves me as much as He loves Mary, and has paid the same price for me as He paid for Mary.
@@austinmorris3422 are you real, the blessed virgin mary carried God incarnate , as scripture says luke verse 46 48 All generations shall called me blessed . The same blood is in jesus veins . Marys yes saved you . She also was the mother of jesus who just happen to be God part of the trinty . The mother of God . I am absolute certain that the blessed virgin mary is greater than any other human creature except jesus of course in history . She didn't need a saviour she was already saved at the immaculate conception . God would not be born in a person with original sin as Adam and eve . He's God omnipotent. Is he not ? How dare you just see the blessed virgin mary as a sinner of the birth of the almighty God and father .
funny how your god says that no slave should seek their freedom. And gee, the Catholic church had no problem with slavery unless it was christians being enslaved, for a very long time. Unsurprisingly, humans change the religion to match them, not the other way around.
Except the Catholics baptized all their slaves LOL.
It's frightening that atheists killed more people in the 20th century than were killed by al religions combined in any century yet they lack the moral self-awareness to recognize their own evil. Evil is not dark; it's so bright that people cannot stand to look at it directly, and atheists refuse to look at their past which is more blood thirsty and violent than any group in human history.
well, it seems that someone named Steve asked "So how are you any better?" Gee, dear, because I don't support slavery.
@@velkyn1 Again, the Catholics baptized all their slaves, and in lands such as the mainland Spanish Empire in Mexico and South America,, they banhammered slavery.