NOT nu metal! Nu Metal came about 1) By bands influenced by RATM, and 2) Because RATM was only releasing a new album every 4 years which left a vacuum that other bands filled. The music labeled pushed them to release more often, but they didn't. I honestly wouldn't be surprised to learn that since they didn't release often, and the label liked the "sound" so much they encouraged others to make similar music instrument wise but to leave out the controversial political and fact based rebelliousness/protest lyrics.
Rage had little to no influence on Nu Metal. Nu metal was more influenced by bands like Faith No More, Helmet, Suicidal Tendencies, Primus, Mr. Bungle, Prong, Jane's Addiction.
As far as I can understand the debate on if they are or are not, everything I have researched and every person who I talk to definitely say they would consider them nu metal and consider them to have influenced and pushed the nu metal genre into the mainstream
The distinction is in context. Nu metal (in general) is angry tantrums about abandonment, and alienation. Rage against the machine is Specifically about social uprising, actual events of governments murdering people (like Malcom X and MLK) to silence their voice. Nothing LABELED nu metal had their entire discography banned from the radio after 911...nor were they labeled as terrorists. Both happened to RatM. They also shut down the New York Stock Exchange mid training day. This is not a band named Rage against the machine.....it's a history lesson and a rally cry.
I wish we had more bands making music like RATM today. I'm a Xennial (Gen -X/Millenial) and this was the music of my formative years. This opened peoples eyes. The internet was in its infancy. All we had was music to spread important messages that have been lost in the comidification of every aspect of our lives.
I assist to the Show In Santiago of Chile South America 2010 call to this show the Battle of Santiago.. I can only say that I can die in peace to see Rage is indescribable .. Big regards
@@alexred9111making DJ sounds is functionally equivalent. The marketers didn’t have a genre name for it when Rage (and Faith No More and the greebo outfits from the UK) did it, but the music fits the eventual name. No, they’re not as morally bankrupt as Limp Bizkit. They still made the same style of music.
Ok well, me thinking it was nu metal, knowing it came out during the era, me getting the album in a bundle with limp bizkit, Korn, Staind, made me think even more that it was nu metal. I also googled it before I picked this song to record this episode and a sub genre was labeled nu metal. So, if I am wrong I apologize. But it still makes for a good watch for young people who have never been into the metal genre in the 90s
@@nerdingoutwithrickshaw7817don’t apologise. People don’t want to acknowledge the genre because, well, Limp Bizkit exist. That doesn’t change what their sound is. The same way Vanilla Ice and Public Enemy (yeah, I’m old, so my referents are old) are still hip hop.
Nu metal is what happened after the machine tried to bury rage's message....they were too popular and groundbreaking to silence, so the powers pushed similar sounds whose message was bitches, bling, and blow (bread and circus)
3:46 Shall I introduce to you a whole genre all about that low and slow? It's called Doom metal. Sleep, Electric Wizard, Saint Vitus, and the granddaddy of them all Black Sabbath!
Iroinicly at 66 I got plenty of zoomer friends...most of which easily accept all this older stuff..it's when i show them newer stuff like Years of denial or SYZYGYX or Lorna Shore Or JinJer..that seems to take more time to accept..go figure!
Yeah, not nu-Metal yada The important thing is that you tell those kids to actually looking into these lyrics, and what they’re saying. These are still urgently relevant verses.
Rage is not nu metal lol they started in 1991 when actual metal was in its heyday, and they weren't metal to begin with. Rock/Alternative maybe. Sounds like the teachers need teaching.
Might want to hold off ono the teaching role, RATM is NOT nu metal, there's an argument to be made they influenced nu metal artists, but they are definitely not themselves.
I think with most info I’ve seen since this recording I might agree, but there’s definitely a thin line. Metal with rapping and groovy parts during the nu metal era, is still a little nu metal. When I recorded this I even found nu metal as a sub genre.
Never heard anyone call Rage against the Machine New Metal.
Yeah they’re def not nu metal, but they were one of the main contributors to the genre lol.
@@nigward3966 that fact doesn’t sit well with Zack.
What would you use to refer to them then?
Only people who weren’t around at the time would think to lump Rage with Nu Metal.
@@nigelcicero9093rage rock? Lol idk
NOT nu metal! Nu Metal came about 1) By bands influenced by RATM, and 2) Because RATM was only releasing a new album every 4 years which left a vacuum that other bands filled.
The music labeled pushed them to release more often, but they didn't. I honestly wouldn't be surprised to learn that since they didn't release often, and the label liked the "sound" so much they encouraged others to make similar music instrument wise but to leave out the controversial political and fact based rebelliousness/protest lyrics.
Rage had little to no influence on Nu Metal. Nu metal was more influenced by bands like Faith No More, Helmet, Suicidal Tendencies, Primus, Mr. Bungle, Prong, Jane's Addiction.
Best to have lyrics up with Rage.
Not Numetal.
www.grammy.com/news/5-essential-nu-metal-albums-korn-rage-against-the-machine-slipknot-deftones-system-of-a-down
As far as I can understand the debate on if they are or are not, everything I have researched and every person who I talk to definitely say they would consider them nu metal and consider them to have influenced and pushed the nu metal genre into the mainstream
The Grammys don’t have a clue!
That journalist wasn’t around; sounds like some wannabe basic foo!
The distinction is in context. Nu metal (in general) is angry tantrums about abandonment, and alienation.
Rage against the machine is Specifically about social uprising, actual events of governments murdering people (like Malcom X and MLK) to silence their voice.
Nothing LABELED nu metal had their entire discography banned from the radio after 911...nor were they labeled as terrorists. Both happened to RatM.
They also shut down the New York Stock Exchange mid training day.
This is not a band named Rage against the machine.....it's a history lesson and a rally cry.
@@nerdingoutwithrickshaw7817RATM isn’t Nu Metal.
The other 1/2 nut would come from having the lyrics up ✊🏼
I wish we had more bands making music like RATM today. I'm a Xennial (Gen -X/Millenial) and this was the music of my formative years. This opened peoples eyes. The internet was in its infancy. All we had was music to spread important messages that have been lost in the comidification of every aspect of our lives.
I assist to the Show In Santiago of Chile South America 2010 call to this show the Battle of Santiago..
I can only say that I can die in peace to see Rage is indescribable ..
Big regards
Rage Against the Machine is not "Nu-Metal." It's Metal + Funk + Rap + DJ. They don't fall into that category.
U just said what nu-metal is in your argument that rage isn’t nu-metal
Rage doesn't use a dj as far as I remember. Its just Tom morello making dj sounds with his guitar
@@alexred9111making DJ sounds is functionally equivalent.
The marketers didn’t have a genre name for it when Rage (and Faith No More and the greebo outfits from the UK) did it, but the music fits the eventual name.
No, they’re not as morally bankrupt as Limp Bizkit. They still made the same style of music.
As a Gen Xer, this is rebel music.
Nu metal doesn't exist when RAM did this masterpieces
yeah it didddddddddd
"You're breaking the 4th wall!" funny
The video was shot in Australia
Gen Z GETS it... They're as lost as we in Gen X were. 💯😎
This is revisionist history; even the band doesn’t count themselves as part of the genre.
Ok well, me thinking it was nu metal, knowing it came out during the era, me getting the album in a bundle with limp bizkit, Korn, Staind, made me think even more that it was nu metal. I also googled it before I picked this song to record this episode and a sub genre was labeled nu metal. So, if I am wrong I apologize. But it still makes for a good watch for young people who have never been into the metal genre in the 90s
@@nerdingoutwithrickshaw7817don’t apologise. People don’t want to acknowledge the genre because, well, Limp Bizkit exist.
That doesn’t change what their sound is.
The same way Vanilla Ice and Public Enemy (yeah, I’m old, so my referents are old) are still hip hop.
@@nerdingoutwithrickshaw7817Rage hates nu metal...
❤
Nu metal is what happened after the machine tried to bury rage's message....they were too popular and groundbreaking to silence, so the powers pushed similar sounds whose message was bitches, bling, and blow (bread and circus)
do reaction on the Matrix then :) their "No Shelter" (great song) is in Godzilla and lyrics go something like "Godzilla, pure mo-fo filla"
3:46 Shall I introduce to you a whole genre all about that low and slow? It's called Doom metal. Sleep, Electric Wizard, Saint Vitus, and the granddaddy of them all Black Sabbath!
TMI!!!!! But I fux with you guys. Subbed
1996… was a good year .
Teach them certainly - but not that RATM is Nu Metal.... Come on!
Iroinicly at 66 I got plenty of zoomer friends...most of which easily accept all this older stuff..it's when i show them newer stuff like Years of denial or SYZYGYX or Lorna Shore Or JinJer..that seems to take more time to accept..go figure!
Essential nu metal would be Linkin Park, SoD and Korn
They are not, but they brought another level of intensity - and nu metalers went lower and aped that intensity.
Yeah, not nu-Metal yada
The important thing is that you tell those kids to actually looking into these lyrics, and what they’re saying. These are still urgently relevant verses.
RATM hates the Nu Metal label. He actually apologized to his fans since many nu metal bands were inspired by RATM.
RATM really isn’t Nu Metal. They’re a genre all of their own!
Rage is classic you guys.
Yea you are correct
Nu metal?
Look in the comments to see, we are already debating this topic
ratm a nu metal band? what?
Rage is not nu metal lol they started in 1991 when actual metal was in its heyday, and they weren't metal to begin with. Rock/Alternative maybe. Sounds like the teachers need teaching.
“Actual metal”!?
Lemmy would spin in his grave if it wasn’t for the fact that dead people don’t move.
You should show them the cover of "renegades of funk" on battle for los angeles. Every rage fan was like... What?
Might want to hold off ono the teaching role, RATM is NOT nu metal, there's an argument to be made they influenced nu metal artists, but they are definitely not themselves.
I think with most info I’ve seen since this recording I might agree, but there’s definitely a thin line. Metal with rapping and groovy parts during the nu metal era, is still a little nu metal. When I recorded this I even found nu metal as a sub genre.
this ain't metal. this ain't punk. it's fucking rage man just like primus is just fucking primus. no genre.
Exactly. 👏
these guys are the definition of "rap rock" so no they are not nu-metal
sorry guys, but RATM is not New metal.
Rage against the machine is not nu metal 🤣
Rage is not not my metal. Rage was was their own thing before Nu Metal. Not to me a hater but Nu Metal sucks.
I realize that it was its own thing, but it’s definitely in the same family as nu metal.
Rage against the machine isn't Nu metal...
Nu Metal? Ummm….no.
Rage Against the Machine isn’t nu metal.
Rage is not nu metal