Honeywell Home HCC100 Underfloor Heating Controller (2023 Review)

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  • Опубліковано 8 лис 2023
  • Richard gives his review on the new Honeywell Home HCC100 Multi Zone UFH Controller, which was launched in June 2023. This HCC100 was being pre-bound to a large evohome system before dispatching to a customer.
    The products featured in this video...
    Honeywell Home HCC100 Multi Zone UFH Controller - thesmartthermostatshop.co.uk/...
    Honeywell Home DT4R (White) Wireless Thermostat - thesmartthermostatshop.co.uk/...
    Honeywell Home M100-BG Thermal Actuator - thesmartthermostatshop.co.uk/...
    Honeywell Home evohome Value Pack A - thesmartthermostatshop.co.uk/...
    Honeywell Home HR914 Radiator Controllers - thesmartthermostatshop.co.uk/...
    The full suite of Honeywell Home evohome UFH controls can be found here - thesmartthermostatshop.co.uk/...
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  • @xardus9699
    @xardus9699 8 місяців тому +1

    great video, seems a massive improvement over the HCC80R

    • @MWPHS
      @MWPHS  8 місяців тому

      I’ve done many HCC80R pre-binds and the HCC100 is very easy to do once you get used to Resideo Pro App. But yep, lots of improvements over the HCC80R.

  • @LuckHermsen
    @LuckHermsen 6 місяців тому

    Great video, lots of info, thanks! Looked at the HCC80 a while back but this is much better.
    Do I understand correctly that I would no longer need to connect a BDR91 RF module to the EvoTouch to trigger the Heater Pump to turn on, as the HCC100 has it's own output for Heat demand which can be connected to the Heater Pump? Thanks a bunch!

    • @MWPHS
      @MWPHS  6 місяців тому +1

      You don't have to use a BDR91 if you use the HCC100 and the heat demand terminal (which is a volt free relay), however you wouldn't use the heat demand terminal and a wireless BDR91 (if you already have one controlling the boiler with HR91/HR92).

  • @bartoszborowiak0304
    @bartoszborowiak0304 2 місяці тому

    Hi Rich, This is brilliant video. I have a question about the EvoHome system. I'm currently using gas boiler with 10 HR924 + HR91EE. I'm planning some renovation works and one zone will be gone with extension where underfloor heating will be in place (part of the house) - the remaining radiators are still there. Can I add the HCC100 to the system? Your help will be much appriciated.

    • @MWPHS
      @MWPHS  2 місяці тому

      So yes, you can add the HCC100 but you will only have the remaining zones on the evohome controller to use, not the full 8 zones the HCC100 offers.

  • @vincentohanlon
    @vincentohanlon 7 місяців тому

    Thanks. I just installed all of the original Evohome gear (opentherm on combi with UFH). Does this newer setup have any advantages in terms of heat management and cost savings?

    • @MWPHS
      @MWPHS  6 місяців тому

      The HCC100 has a load of options over the HCC80R, so ultimately a better UFH controller.

  • @Graggs
    @Graggs 3 місяці тому

    Thanks for the video Rich.
    I presently have a load of Seimens Rev23's with a pretty dumb UFH wiring centre, stitched into my EvoHome system. I would like to replace the dated Rev23's, they are all discoloured and looking tatty and dated. The DT4 caught my eye and that led me to potentially using the HCC100 and integrating it properly.
    At the moment, the Rev23's have scheduling & setback temperatures which catch the cooling down too much. Obviously, the EvoHOME will do the scheduling, I'm guessing the setback temperature is effectively one of the scheduled steps?
    It would be great if they would come up with a DT4 with a slab sensor!

    • @MWPHS
      @MWPHS  3 місяці тому +1

      Time and temperature control is with evohome, so setback is just a lesser scheduled temperature in another time zone. Evohome has Optimum Start and is better than most systems at regulating air temp between setback and comfort temps.

  • @LaCalma35555
    @LaCalma35555 7 місяців тому +1

    Is it possible to connect 2 HCC100 controllers in a single Evohome?
    The video is very interesting, I would like to install this material in my house.

    • @MWPHS
      @MWPHS  7 місяців тому +1

      Yes, you can connect more than one HCC100 to an evohome controller, but bear in mind each evohome controller has a 12 heating zone limit.

    • @LaCalma35555
      @LaCalma35555 7 місяців тому

      ​@@MWPHSPerfect, in my case I have 2 heating manifolds, one with 7 zones and another with 3 zones.
      I will try to save an HCC100 by wiring from one heating manifold to the other, but if not possible, you have helped me a lot knowing that I can always connect 2 HCC100 controllers. Thank you so much.

  • @ScottCrooks
    @ScottCrooks 3 місяці тому

    Can I ask please: if you install the HCC100, do you need the EvoHome controller (the part with the fancy UI) ? Or can you simply install the HCC100, and install the thermostats, and call it good? Or is there a difference between thermostats (for example: wired thermostats don't need to communicate with the controller, but the wireless ones do) ?

    • @MWPHS
      @MWPHS  3 місяці тому

      You don't need evohome to use the HCC100, however without a programmable wireless/wired thermostat that is compatible with the HCC100, you will have no way of programming the system. You would need to use something like a Resideo Total Home Programmable Thermostat or a T3M/T4M modulation thermostat. It is easier just to use evohome in my opinion.

  • @security-pb4ee
    @security-pb4ee 8 місяців тому

    Many thanks for your review great item from honeywell for underfloor not too much manufacturer support this type for underfloor heating like tado or nest all customers have issue .with it
    Only honeywell and heatmiser and hive and drayton wiser by Schneider Electric suport this special for underfloor heating put not sure which one the best

    • @MWPHS
      @MWPHS  8 місяців тому

      If budget is no object, evohome is best. Although we do like the Drayton Wiser system and Salus Smart Home, when it comes to efficiency neither of those systems currently do fully mixed heating technology and OpenTherm like evohome does.

    • @security-pb4ee
      @security-pb4ee 8 місяців тому

      @MWPHS many thanks for your reply.
      Thanks for your help with more information so you like first honeywell (evohome) and then wiser dryton also salus smart home
      What about heatmiser and hive
      Many thanks for you help

    • @MWPHS
      @MWPHS  8 місяців тому

      @@security-pb4ee Hive is not capable of multi-zone UFH and is considered a poor heating controller by many heating professionals in the know. Heatmiser is ok, but not in the same league as the controls we sell on thesmartthermostatshop.co.uk

    • @security-pb4ee
      @security-pb4ee 8 місяців тому

      @MWPHS many thanks for your help
      So the top first honeywell and dryton wiser and secand salus smart home and third may be not sure EPH

  • @aliastudiohairmakeup40
    @aliastudiohairmakeup40 6 місяців тому

    I am interested in having this at home. But my house has one underfloor heating floor and upstairs is radiator heating system. Do i need 2 controlers? I counted about 12 zone in the entire house, but there 2 kind of heating system. Thank you so much

    • @MWPHS
      @MWPHS  5 місяців тому

      evohome can do up to 12 heating zones per evotouch controller. Maybe have a look at this (thesmartthermostatshop.co.uk/what-honeywell-evohome-products-do-i-need-for-my-home/) and give us an email with any other questions you have?

  • @johnklep1902
    @johnklep1902 6 місяців тому

    If I have 5 zones, do I need 5 thermostats or 4 thermostats and 1 EVO controller (is also a thermostat?)?

    • @MWPHS
      @MWPHS  6 місяців тому

      Personally I would never use the evohome controller as a zone thermostat when used as a multi zone controller.

  • @joehaskett90
    @joehaskett90 7 місяців тому

    Is this was added to an evohome system can it control the boiler with opentherm instead of the bdr91 I have now? I have a mix of underfloor and radiators zone valves

    • @MWPHS
      @MWPHS  6 місяців тому

      Any evohome system would need an R8810 OpenTherm Bridge to operate on OpenTherm. Adding the HCC100 to evohome still won’t give you OpenTherm control.

    • @joehaskett90
      @joehaskett90 6 місяців тому

      What is the opentherm output on the hcc100 used for if not that?

    • @MWPHS
      @MWPHS  6 місяців тому +1

      @@joehaskett90 as I said on the video, the HCC100 can be used as a stand alone OpenTherm UFH controller (without evohome). If you do use the HCC100 with evohome, the evohome system relies on the R8810A OpenTherm Bridge for communication with the boiler, so you don’t use the OpenTherm terminal on the HCC100.

  • @juliangoffe3894
    @juliangoffe3894 5 місяців тому

    How can I install an HCC100 when it says you need the Resideo Pro app, but you need to be a registered company to be allowed to use the App!

    • @MWPHS
      @MWPHS  4 місяці тому

      If you purchase this product from us we have a business login you can use to setup the device. Otherwise you will need to use a Resideo Pro - www.resideo.com/gb/en/find-a-pro/

  • @louisvl10
    @louisvl10 7 місяців тому

    would this also work for zoning a radiator install?

    • @MWPHS
      @MWPHS  7 місяців тому +1

      Personally I wouldn't use a HCC100 to control radiators as the operation is too slow.

    • @saxjarritt
      @saxjarritt 7 місяців тому

      Great video. My radiators run off a manifold and are controlled by electrothermic heads. With DT4M thermostats and an evohome controller I don't see how the operation would be any slower than for underfloor control. @@MWPHS

    • @theheatingconsultant
      @theheatingconsultant 6 місяців тому

      @@saxjarritt Underfloor heating control is slow to react and doesn't need the equipment to work very fast (hence thermal actuators can take 4 minutes to open/close). But if you had 4 minutes of extra heat from a radiator going into a room because the thermal actuators are slow to react, the target air temp would be overshooting marginally for sure, verses control by HR91 or HR92's.