The Tolkien parallels go further. Many Canaanites aligned with Israel (eg Rahab) and the Israelites themselves suffered under judgement in the civil war and exiles. Likewise, the Haradrim were not universally allied with Sauron and the Numenoreans were the recipients of intense judgement in the Akallabeth.
it's still god killing people for their real estate and slaves however you dress it up, your religion is still voodoo and blood sacrifices. god is not a nice person, my vote goes to satan evert day of the week. and i don't even believe he exists.
free will : the ability to choose things you would never choose. i think the simplest way for religists to "get" why there is no free will is that there is one history of the universe, the past is set (until we build the time machine) and i think it's fair to say there will only be one future too, so the total path of history can't be changed - it's set - pick a point on that line there will still only be one past and one future - so if you're at the end, then all of human history was set from the beginning.
Hebrews 11:17-19 shows that Abraham knew Isaac was the one through whom he would have many descendents, this is what God told him in Genesis 21:12. Abraham knew that if he killed Isaac, God could raise him from the dead. One could even say that he was confident that by the end of the trial, he would return with Isaac. After all, in Genesis 22:5 he did tell his servants that he and Isaac would return to them after worshipping God.
religion was invented around 50,000 years ago, which seems like a long time, but humans, in whatever form, were looking after mothers and babies, caring for the elderly and sick, feeding each other and generally being decent to each other so that they thrived for up to 5 MILLION years before that, religion borrows morality from secular societies.
@@HarryNicNicholas Actually, it's the other way around. Secular societies borrow morality from Christianity (Larry Siedentop’s Inventing the Individual: The Origins of Western Liberalism, 2017).
since the Abraham and Isaac story is not like pagan child sacrifice, was God trying to enact judgement on Isaac the same way he was on the caananites? And if so, what for? Isaac had not gone deep into debauchery like the canaanites had, had he?
Good question--the judgment would be for sin in general, insofar as Isaac serves as a type of all people under God's judgment. Whenever any of us sin (this was a point I havent made in the video), we launch ourselves on a spiral. E.g. when I lie, it becomes easier to lie again--something happens to my character in the act of any wrong doing. As it turns out, whenever we do any wrong thing, we sort of set an arbitrary limit of ourselves (e.g. "I would lust but never cheat" or "I would insult but not murder"--and we can always push the line back. So it would be for the spiral of sin Isaac is on, which would correspond to God's right to judge us when we are locked into sin. Yet the provision of the Lamb and the sparing of Isaac points forward to the possibility of being spares God's judgment for sin.
The Tolkien parallels go further. Many Canaanites aligned with Israel (eg Rahab) and the Israelites themselves suffered under judgement in the civil war and exiles. Likewise, the Haradrim were not universally allied with Sauron and the Numenoreans were the recipients of intense judgement in the Akallabeth.
it's still god killing people for their real estate and slaves however you dress it up, your religion is still voodoo and blood sacrifices. god is not a nice person, my vote goes to satan evert day of the week. and i don't even believe he exists.
Great video! Also thought I got a Skyrim quest at 9:11 😂
free will : the ability to choose things you would never choose.
i think the simplest way for religists to "get" why there is no free will is that there is one history
of the universe, the past is set (until we build the time machine) and i think it's fair to say there
will only be one future too, so the total path of history can't be changed - it's set - pick a point
on that line there will still only be one past and one future - so if you're at the end, then all of
human history was set from the beginning.
Where does it say that God saw something pleasing in David’s child?
I realized I was thinking of a parallel case in 1 Kings 14:12-13 with Jeroboam's child. The same principle applies.
@@anglicanaesthetics are you inerrant?
Hebrews 11:17-19 shows that Abraham knew Isaac was the one through whom he would have many descendents, this is what God told him in Genesis 21:12. Abraham knew that if he killed Isaac, God could raise him from the dead. One could even say that he was confident that by the end of the trial, he would return with Isaac. After all, in Genesis 22:5 he did tell his servants that he and Isaac would return to them after worshipping God.
ezekiel 23:14 is my favourite bible porn though. ever read that one?
Where did Joe Schmid claim that OT violence is immoral? I know he has some sympathies for Universalism but I have never heard him discuss OT violence.
In his video responding to the "100 arguments for God" stream Cameron did when he gets to moral arguments
@@anglicanaesthetics Thanks.
religion was invented around 50,000 years ago, which seems like a long time, but humans, in
whatever form, were looking after mothers and babies, caring for the elderly and sick, feeding
each other and generally being decent to each other so that they thrived for up to 5 MILLION
years before that, religion borrows morality from secular societies.
@@HarryNicNicholas Actually, it's the other way around. Secular societies borrow morality from Christianity (Larry Siedentop’s Inventing the Individual: The Origins of Western Liberalism, 2017).
since the Abraham and Isaac story is not like pagan child sacrifice, was God trying to enact judgement on Isaac the same way he was on the caananites? And if so, what for? Isaac had not gone deep into debauchery like the canaanites had, had he?
Good question--the judgment would be for sin in general, insofar as Isaac serves as a type of all people under God's judgment. Whenever any of us sin (this was a point I havent made in the video), we launch ourselves on a spiral. E.g. when I lie, it becomes easier to lie again--something happens to my character in the act of any wrong doing. As it turns out, whenever we do any wrong thing, we sort of set an arbitrary limit of ourselves (e.g. "I would lust but never cheat" or "I would insult but not murder"--and we can always push the line back.
So it would be for the spiral of sin Isaac is on, which would correspond to God's right to judge us when we are locked into sin. Yet the provision of the Lamb and the sparing of Isaac points forward to the possibility of being spares God's judgment for sin.