I really love Denon. Being an digital audio designer/engineer I can fully appreciate the the AL24/AL32 technology. It really enhances the sound quality of PCM DSD and CD.
Have one. It's a beast of an amp. Do not underestimate that 70w, it sounds way more powerful and effortless than the specs suggest. It has a very muscular and colored, but fun, sound.
Hi. So you have the Denon PMA 1700NE? Nice. And you're pairing it with the KLH Model 5? Nice. I demoed the Model 5 and I liked it a lot; I also heard the Klipsch Hersey IV and the Forte IV, and the Model 5 was way better (the Hersey sounds like the sound is coming from the floor but the Forte IV was better). But then I heard KLH is supposed to come out with the Model 7, a bigger brother of the Model 5, and so I decided to wait, because I figured, if the M5 beat the Hersey IV, then perhaps the M7 would beat out the Forte IV. Fast forward: then I heard the Sonus Faber Lumina V. Man that is really nice. It gives me a more forward sound and the mid range is beautiful. I haven't gotten it yet because I am debating to go for the Martin Logan 40i or 60xti at their sale price.
Hi JR. Have you heard the Denon PMA1700NE? What is it's sound character? Warm? Bright? Neutral? I like to get the Sonus Faber Lumina 5 speakers or the KLH Model 5. The Lumina's have a slight treble bump but don't come across as bright, albeit just accented a bit. But does the Denon have a lively treble that may be too much paired with a speaker like this? Whereas the Model 5 have an attenuator for treble/mid roll off and 'may' pair better. Thanks
@@crutchfield Hi guys. I am probably going for the Sonus Faber Lumina V; however I see Martin Logan's new Motion models are out and they look great, especially the XTF100, but it's out of reach financially. I do see their previous Motion line (40i and 60xti) are for sale which are some decent speakers too, and are now reasonably priced. I love their tweeters. Their midrange is probably a bit more 'warmer' or vailed than the Sonus Faber Lumina which is more like a 'horn' character.
Thinking of upgrading to this from the Denon PMA720ae, which has served me well for 11 years. Just have a feeling the amp's starting to get tired (the sound is now off centre and therefore I can't use the source direct button amongst other things). Is it a worthy and noticeable upgrade would you think ? (Using Monitor Audio Bronze BX6 2010-2015)
Hello, sounds like your current Denon has been an excellent amp for you! This Denon PMA-1700NE will offer comparable power and match your BX6s well. From there, are there any specific features or connections you need in your new replacement?
I wonder if the 900 would be enough at less than half the price and it also has a usb port for hard drives and the 1700 doesn't...but no analog mode on the 900, it's so hard to know when you can't audition them. There's hype about every amplifier these days. Thanks for the video!
The BT for streaming is an unnecessary ommision imo. Also - why not HDMI instead of Toslink for TV, as Marantz does? I am a fan of Denon. This amp would surely work with my AVR (it finally got the main-in back, as pma-1600ne lacked that). But - price wise it is now closer to Marantz 40n, which has a streamer, HDMI, etc. A tough call ...
We expect it will thanks to its amplifier design. To officially check, we need certain specifications on the speaker. The watts RMS recommendation, the ohms of each speaker, and the sensitivity. We were not able to find that information on the internet. Do you have those specifications on the speakers?
That is great news in deed about that handbook in the speakers. Thanks. You will be able to use those speakers with this integrated amp! They are a very good match for each other
It sure does work well with Wharfedale speakers and their Evo 4.4 model! This amp won't make the Evo 4.4 speakers play the loudest they can, but the power is definitely there for the Evo's to produce a very clean sound.
It's a solid match for the bookshelves; but you'd have to use the speaker-level inputs on your sub. If you're prefer an amp with a dedicated pre out, we'll be glad to recommend another option. Are there any other specific features or connections you need?
How do you select between speakers a and speakers b? I don’t see a switch on the amp or a button on the remote. If you hook two pair up are they always on?
Hi! Thank you for the review. I have the preamp/power amp combo Pioneer c73/m73 from the Urushi series in the 90s. I was wondering if the a110 or the 2500ne will drive and sound better with my Focal Aria 948 and one svs sb-1000 pro sub. Moderate auditions. I also have the Pioneer PD-73 cd player and I’m tempted to change it with the dcd-110, mostly for the sacd. Does the dcs-110 sounds better than the PD-73 when it comes to cds? Or the 2500ne? Or should I stick with what I have a go for hybrid sacds? Thank you!
Sounds like a great setup! On the amp side, what do you feel the current setup is most lacking? While your current CD player is terrific, the Denon Anniversary Edition DCD-A110 SACD/CD player would offer even better detail, dynamic range, and a wider sound stage using standard audio CDs.
@@crutchfield Hi! Thank you so much for your answer. It really helps. On the amp side, just like with the cd player, I’m loving the sound, but I still don’t know if a modern amp (class a/b preferably) will get more from the Focals. The power amp has a lot of power and my auditions are moderate to low sometimes. I think this is what the hobby might get you. You are always wondering “could I get more?”. :) For the moment, taking in consideration your opinion with the dcd-a110, I will probably start with the cd player and after that I will see if I can get a chance to compare the amps with something like the pma-110. Is true that I started with the Rega Elex-R, but I’m loving more the warm sound of the Pioneer. Thank you so much and now I will start looking for the best price for the dcd-a110. :)
We know that feelin' for sure around here! 😀 Sounds like the CD player will offer a more significant upgrade, so you've got a good plan. Our prices are generally close to those of other authorized dealers and our service and Product Support set us apart. If you haven't already, be sure to sign up for our rewards: www.crutchfield.com/Support/rewards.aspx We currently are taking orders for the Denon DCD-A110 110 by phone at 1-800-555-7088. Happy listening!
The Denon Anniversary Edition DCD-A110 is available here: www.crutchfield.com/I-rYALc921/p_033DCDA110/item.html The above video features Bowers & Wilkins speakers.
@@crutchfield Thanks. I thought I read that a DCD-1700NE would be released shortly after the PMA-1700NE to replace the DCD-1600NE. Haven't been a fan of B&W speakers. I live in Raleigh and plan to visit Crutchfield this fall to listen to some gear. Will check out the B&W/Denon pairing.
That may have been their plan at one point; we don't know. But we do know they have yet to release a DCD-1700NE model player. We look forward to your visit. The demo tech is pretty amazing!!
This amp does not have any preamp outputs. It only has high level, speaker level, outputs and can only work with powered subwoofers that have high level inputs.
@@crutchfield Does this make any sense at all, as the X3800 sounds quite good for an AVR even in stereo, and does the addition of the 1700 bring any audible added value?I also have both at home, each with a KEF R5, and the X3800 does a good job, as does the 1700 of course.
i saw your review on this amp and got it today...maybee you can help me, i paired 2 sets of speakers but i cant find the switch selector beetween them.i am hearing the 4 speakers at the same time
We have a LOT of speakers that can be used with it. Do you still want to have two sets of speakers? Are there any changes that you want to make to the sound you get from the JBL speakers?
A pre-amp won't add power; but we can look at other options. What are you using to power your current JBL speakers? In addition to more volume, what are you hoping to hear with the change?
I ordered the device in silver and tested and I must say the sound is really good. What bothered me was the lid of device he does not look nice because everywhere is with air grid probably Denon had saved in sheet metal? therefore went back otherwise successful Device.
Those vents are there to help let the heat rise from its ultra high current amplifier and transformer as well as the heat sinks. We do not want to think about the damage that would be done without them!
Не подскажите какие акустические динамики лучше использовать для Denon pma 1700 ne? Подключил к акустическим динамикам Yamaha NS 555 и звук мне не понравился.
Right now i have a bluesound powernode streamer/amp all in 1 device. I was thinking about buying this Denon 1700NE, but it has no streamer. Can i connect it to the powernode amp so that it can serve as the streamer? And do i need any other devices to listen to my music via phone (Tidal app)? In other words: am i good to go with this Denon in my situation? Or do i need additional devices?
The Bluesound Powernode does not have an audio output that will work with integrated amps including this Denon. We wish we had different news for you there. Bluesound does make a device that can work with integrated amps. Its the Node (N130 model) found here: www.crutchfield.com/I-rYALc227/p_813NODEBK/item.html
Hello Everyone! Can anyone confirm if the Denon PMA-1700NE supports via usb B, android devices? Ideally I would like to use my android device as audio transport and with USB Audio Player Pro android app, feed bit perfect audio to the Denon's dac via the usb B port.
The USB-B input on this amp supports Windows PC or Mac computers only. What type of android device are you using? Would you like help choosing a better match for that?
@@crutchfield Ones again thank you for your reply. I think I will go with either this player or the bigger brother pma-a110 and just use my PC and foobar2000
It does not have a subwoofer output which means it will work with subwoofer that have speaker level inputs like these models: www.crutchfield.com/I-rYALc227/g_12300/Powered-Subwoofers.html?fa=1#&nvpair=AG_Connections|YCSpeaker@Level_Inputs
Hi Boby, there is no switch on this model. When two pair of speakers are connected, both pair of speakers are always active so you cannot switch A or B off. Would you like help choosing an amp with the option to play either independently or together?
Thank you for your answer . Yes, I am looking for such an amplifier, I have the "Pylon dimond 25" and "dali oberon 3" speakers. I am preparing an amplifier that will sound good when listening quietly in the evening. I had a Yamaha rn803d and I would like something a little better.@@crutchfield
Two amps will give you the best match for your 4-ohm and 6-ohm speakers. Just so you have WiFi available, switching via your network would be ideal too. What sources were you planning to stream specifically via the Node or Wiim? Do you need to connect any wired sources? Are you using Bluesound or Wiim in other parts of your home now?
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I really love Denon. Being an digital audio designer/engineer I can fully appreciate the the AL24/AL32 technology. It really enhances the sound quality of PCM DSD and CD.
Have one. It's a beast of an amp. Do not underestimate that 70w, it sounds way more powerful and effortless than the specs suggest. It has a very muscular and colored, but fun, sound.
Glad its working out well. What speakers are you running with it?
@@crutchfield KLH Model 5's. Sweet synergy.
Excellent! Happy listening!
@@TheHammerofDissidence that's good to know, I have Model 5s and am trying to decide between the Denon and Rotel 1572 MkII.
Hi. So you have the Denon PMA 1700NE? Nice. And you're pairing it with the KLH Model 5? Nice.
I demoed the Model 5 and I liked it a lot; I also heard the Klipsch Hersey IV and the Forte IV, and the Model 5 was way better (the Hersey sounds like the sound is coming from the floor but the Forte IV was better). But then I heard KLH is supposed to come out with the Model 7, a bigger brother of the Model 5, and so I decided to wait, because I figured, if the M5 beat the Hersey IV, then perhaps the M7 would beat out the Forte IV. Fast forward: then I heard the Sonus Faber Lumina V. Man that is really nice. It gives me a more forward sound and the mid range is beautiful. I haven't gotten it yet because I am debating to go for the Martin Logan 40i or 60xti at their sale price.
well built, great quality
Denon pma 900 будет звучать с heco Victa Prime 602, комната 18 метров квадратных?
Hi JR. Have you heard the Denon PMA1700NE? What is it's sound character? Warm? Bright? Neutral? I like to get the Sonus Faber Lumina 5 speakers or the KLH Model 5. The Lumina's have a slight treble bump but don't come across as bright, albeit just accented a bit. But does the Denon have a lively treble that may be too much paired with a speaker like this? Whereas the Model 5 have an attenuator for treble/mid roll off and 'may' pair better.
Thanks
Hi Mark. great speaker options! The Denon tends to be more neutral.
@@crutchfield Would you recommend a warmer sounding amp in the similar price rarnge?
Sure. which speakers have you landed on? Are there any specific features or inputs you need?
@@crutchfield Sonus Faber Olympica 1. I am looking for just warm,tuby-sounding SS integrated.
@@crutchfield Hi guys. I am probably going for the Sonus Faber Lumina V; however I see Martin Logan's new Motion models are out and they look great, especially the XTF100, but it's out of reach financially. I do see their previous Motion line (40i and 60xti) are for sale which are some decent speakers too, and are now reasonably priced. I love their tweeters. Their midrange is probably a bit more 'warmer' or vailed than the Sonus Faber Lumina which is more like a 'horn' character.
Thinking of upgrading to this from the Denon PMA720ae, which has served me well for 11 years. Just have a feeling the amp's starting to get tired (the sound is now off centre and therefore I can't use the source direct button amongst other things). Is it a worthy and noticeable upgrade would you think ? (Using Monitor Audio Bronze BX6 2010-2015)
Hello, sounds like your current Denon has been an excellent amp for you! This Denon PMA-1700NE will offer comparable power and match your BX6s well. From there, are there any specific features or connections you need in your new replacement?
So does it have a h/t bypass?
Thanks.
The Denon PMA-1700NE does have a fixed-gain stereo RCA preamp input that lets you connect a separate preamp and use the PMA-1700NE as a power amp
Lets talk about the Windows driver mentioned on page 32 of the manual that can not be found anywhere!
Per Denon, you can request the drivers via chat or email with their support team directly: support.denon.com/app/home
I wonder if the 900 would be enough at less than half the price and it also has a usb port for hard drives and the 1700 doesn't...but no analog mode on the 900, it's so hard to know when you can't audition them. There's hype about every amplifier these days. Thanks for the video!
The PMA-900HNE is also a fantastic integrated amp. What type of speakers do you have? Is it a fairly large room?
I have ordered Bowers and Wilkins 606 S3 and I was wondering which of these 2 I should buy.
Hi, do you think that pairing it with klipsch speakers is a good solution?
Thanks
Hi Alessandro, what model Klipsch speakers are you using? How many?
The BT for streaming is an unnecessary ommision imo. Also - why not HDMI instead of Toslink for TV, as Marantz does? I am a fan of Denon. This amp would surely work with my AVR (it finally got the main-in back, as pma-1600ne lacked that). But - price wise it is now closer to Marantz 40n, which has a streamer, HDMI, etc. A tough call ...
Hi Petr, the Marantz Model 40n is an excellent choice as well if you do prefer the HDMI input and built-in streaming via HEOS.
Nice presentation! Could this amplifier work well my old mission 774?
We expect it will thanks to its amplifier design. To officially check, we need certain specifications on the speaker. The watts RMS recommendation, the ohms of each speaker, and the sensitivity. We were not able to find that information on the internet. Do you have those specifications on the speakers?
@@crutchfield recommended amplifier (w/ch): 25-125w. Frec. Response (+/-3db) 45hz-20khz. LF response (-6db): 38hz. Sensitivity SPLM@2.83V: 89db. Imedance 8Ω. I still have mission’s 77 series hanbook! Thanks again!!!! :)
That is great news in deed about that handbook in the speakers. Thanks. You will be able to use those speakers with this integrated amp! They are a very good match for each other
Hi, does this amplifier work well with my Wharfedales Evo 4.4? Thanks
It sure does work well with Wharfedale speakers and their Evo 4.4 model! This amp won't make the Evo 4.4 speakers play the loudest they can, but the power is definitely there for the Evo's to produce a very clean sound.
@@crutchfield Ok Thank You 👍🏻
Anytime! 🙂
this amp can be paired with a ls50 meta and Kef KC62 sub ? there will be any problem whit impedace?
It's a solid match for the bookshelves; but you'd have to use the speaker-level inputs on your sub. If you're prefer an amp with a dedicated pre out, we'll be glad to recommend another option. Are there any other specific features or connections you need?
How do you select between speakers a and speakers b? I don’t see a switch on the amp or a button on the remote. If you hook two pair up are they always on?
Both sets of speaker terminals are always active (you can not switch A or B off).
Hi! Thank you for the review. I have the preamp/power amp combo Pioneer c73/m73 from the Urushi series in the 90s. I was wondering if the a110 or the 2500ne will drive and sound better with my Focal Aria 948 and one svs sb-1000 pro sub. Moderate auditions. I also have the Pioneer PD-73 cd player and I’m tempted to change it with the dcd-110, mostly for the sacd. Does the dcs-110 sounds better than the PD-73 when it comes to cds? Or the 2500ne? Or should I stick with what I have a go for hybrid sacds? Thank you!
Sounds like a great setup! On the amp side, what do you feel the current setup is most lacking? While your current CD player is terrific, the Denon Anniversary Edition DCD-A110
SACD/CD player would offer even better detail, dynamic range, and a wider sound stage using standard audio CDs.
@@crutchfield Hi! Thank you so much for your answer. It really helps. On the amp side, just like with the cd player, I’m loving the sound, but I still don’t know if a modern amp (class a/b preferably) will get more from the Focals. The power amp has a lot of power and my auditions are moderate to low sometimes. I think this is what the hobby might get you. You are always wondering “could I get more?”. :) For the moment, taking in consideration your opinion with the dcd-a110, I will probably start with the cd player and after that I will see if I can get a chance to compare the amps with something like the pma-110. Is true that I started with the Rega Elex-R, but I’m loving more the warm sound of the Pioneer. Thank you so much and now I will start looking for the best price for the dcd-a110. :)
We know that feelin' for sure around here! 😀 Sounds like the CD player will offer a more significant upgrade, so you've got a good plan. Our prices are generally close to those of other authorized dealers and our service and Product Support set us apart. If you haven't already, be sure to sign up for our rewards: www.crutchfield.com/Support/rewards.aspx We currently are taking orders for the Denon DCD-A110 110 by phone at 1-800-555-7088. Happy listening!
@@crutchfield Thank you so much for your advice and support! I really appreciate it! 🙏
You're welcome.
When will the matching SACD player be available? What speakers did you use during your evaluation? Thanks
The Denon Anniversary Edition DCD-A110 is available here: www.crutchfield.com/I-rYALc921/p_033DCDA110/item.html The above video features Bowers & Wilkins speakers.
@@crutchfield Thanks. I thought I read that a DCD-1700NE would be released shortly after the PMA-1700NE to replace the DCD-1600NE. Haven't been a fan of B&W speakers. I live in Raleigh and plan to visit Crutchfield this fall to listen to some gear. Will check out the B&W/Denon pairing.
That may have been their plan at one point; we don't know. But we do know they have yet to release a DCD-1700NE model player.
We look forward to your visit. The demo tech is pretty amazing!!
@@crutchfield Thanks.
@@crutchfield Thanks
Hi… where would you hook up the subwoofer ?..Thank you
The Denon PMA-1700NE does not have a dedicated subwoofer pre-out. You could use a sub with speaker-level inputs. Would you like help choosing?
@@crutchfield sure.. thank you.
Our pleasure. What is your exact setup? What type of music do you listen to most often?
Can a subwoofer without a high level input be connected to this amp?
This amp does not have any preamp outputs. It only has high level, speaker level, outputs and can only work with powered subwoofers that have high level inputs.
@@crutchfield I see . Thank you for your reply :)
Can this be used as an external amp for the x3800h. So i can play heos and streaming apps and use a sub woofer
Hi Curt, are you looking to connect to your Denon AVR-X3800H's zone 2 pre out?
@@crutchfield Does this make any sense at all, as the X3800 sounds quite good for an AVR even in stereo, and does the addition of the 1700 bring any audible added value?I also have both at home, each with a KEF R5, and the X3800 does a good job, as does the 1700 of course.
i saw your review on this amp and got it today...maybee you can help me, i paired 2 sets of speakers but i cant find the switch selector beetween them.i am hearing the 4 speakers at the same time
Great choice! When two pair of speakers are connected, both pair of speakers are always active and you can not switch A or B off).
@@crutchfield which speakers do you recomend to pair to this baby ( now i have jbl e80) ???
We have a LOT of speakers that can be used with it. Do you still want to have two sets of speakers? Are there any changes that you want to make to the sound you get from the JBL speakers?
@@crutchfield if i will conect pre amp what it will give me? more power?
A pre-amp won't add power; but we can look at other options. What are you using to power your current JBL speakers? In addition to more volume, what are you hoping to hear with the change?
I ordered the device in silver and tested and I
must say the sound is really good.
What bothered me was the lid of device he
does not look nice because everywhere is with air grid
probably Denon had saved in sheet metal?
therefore went back otherwise successful
Device.
Those vents are there to help let the heat rise from its ultra high current amplifier and transformer as well as the heat sinks. We do not want to think about the damage that would be done without them!
Не подскажите какие акустические динамики лучше использовать для Denon pma 1700 ne? Подключил к акустическим динамикам Yamaha NS 555 и звук мне не понравился.
Right now i have a bluesound powernode streamer/amp all in 1 device. I was thinking about buying this Denon 1700NE, but it has no streamer. Can i connect it to the powernode amp so that it can serve as the streamer? And do i need any other devices to listen to my music via phone (Tidal app)? In other words: am i good to go with this Denon in my situation? Or do i need additional devices?
The Bluesound Powernode does not have an audio output that will work with integrated amps including this Denon. We wish we had different news for you there. Bluesound does make a device that can work with integrated amps. Its the Node (N130 model) found here:
www.crutchfield.com/I-rYALc227/p_813NODEBK/item.html
Hello Everyone! Can anyone confirm if the Denon PMA-1700NE supports via usb B, android devices? Ideally I would like to use my android device as audio transport and with USB Audio Player Pro android app, feed bit perfect audio to the Denon's dac via the usb B port.
The USB-B input on this amp supports Windows PC or Mac computers only. What type of android device are you using? Would you like help choosing a better match for that?
@@crutchfield Ones again thank you for your reply. I think I will go with either this player or the bigger brother pma-a110 and just use my PC and foobar2000
You're welcome. Enjoy! Let us know if you need anything else.
No ability to connect a subwoofer?
It does not have a subwoofer output which means it will work with subwoofer that have speaker level inputs like these models:
www.crutchfield.com/I-rYALc227/g_12300/Powered-Subwoofers.html?fa=1#&nvpair=AG_Connections|YCSpeaker@Level_Inputs
You can use Recorder output as subwoofer connection.
where is switch for choise A or B speakers ? how to do it
Hi Boby, there is no switch on this model. When two pair of speakers are connected, both pair of speakers are always active so you cannot switch A or B off. Would you like help choosing an amp with the option to play either independently or together?
Thank you for your answer . Yes, I am looking for such an amplifier, I have the "Pylon dimond 25" and "dali oberon 3" speakers. I am preparing an amplifier that will sound good when listening quietly in the evening. I had a Yamaha rn803d and I would like something a little better.@@crutchfield
Ok, are there specific other features that you consider a "must have"? What types of sources will you be connecting/using?
external network player I was thinking about Wim pro plus" or node 2i@@crutchfield
Two amps will give you the best match for your 4-ohm and 6-ohm speakers. Just so you have WiFi available, switching via your network would be ideal too. What sources were you planning to stream specifically via the Node or Wiim? Do you need to connect any wired sources? Are you using Bluesound or Wiim in other parts of your home now?
no subwooofer nor preamp output on unit for nearly 2000 is embarasing
You think 2k is expensive ? 😂😂 that's peanuts for hifi.
@@tonyt.5771 he he he really? 😁
@janulik9535 absolutely
Nope. Neither is required. Get a proper full range speaker, and you won’t need a sub. Want a preamp output? Buy a Preamplifier.