How to install LEDs in a Pinball Machine - 1990 BALLY RADICAL PART #2 Inserts, Flashers, Pop Bumpers
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In this video we are going to finish our LED job on the 1990 Bally Radical. In the last video we did the General Illumination (GI). In this video, we are going to attack the inserts, flashers, and POP Bumpers. This is a truly awesome mod that turns an old machine into new! Totally worth it!
LED's used in this video:
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I am truly surprised at how much better the whole table looks with LEDs! Especially the flashers! Great job!
Looks awesome. The only thing I'm not loving are the orange segments of the yellow snake in the back glass. In the "before" picture, they were color matched more. I would like to see white bulbs in there so they match the rest of the snake. It looks great though. :)
The backglass on this Pin looks great!!!! John with all the ramps this pin looks like a blast to play! "A Keeper" for sure.
I LOVE the Pole Position and Dragon's Lair attract sounds in the background!
it's funny how you play some weird version of "hark the herald angels sing" whenever you celebrate some success or minor achievement. not long until christmas!
Whoa. First time in YEARS you did a true cold open!
Thanks for the helpful guide to led lamps. It looks great. Looking forward to doing my machines. 🙂
Yes! The Bronco is gonna get some love! I'm looking forward to the 50/50 split videos. Everyone wins!
love the cheery music and sparkles when showing the new lighted play field. but the game looks 100% better.
*lit* , not "lighted".
I'd love to see what sort of wattage difference you've made on the bulb changes. a before/after with a kill-a-watt would be neat!
A job well done once again. I always enjoy how your game looking fantastic. And I am very sure everyone else love your hobby as well.
Well done? Two flashers aren't working.
Woohoo much better!!!...great job..your channel is awesome..i don't collect arcade games (ps4) works for me..but growing up in the 70s and 80s my friends and I did arcades big time pins vids..now we are seeking out barcades....fascinating the work you do...keep it up
John I nearly forgot all about your channel. I always enjoy your restore projects. You need to pick do a vote on the many projects in your garage and do a good restore series 👍
I'm working on the MKII this weekend. I have been gone two of the last four weekends travelling.
Send the MK2 chassis out but could we get a rundown on what fixes it? I have the same monitor and the exact same problem. HOT and Flyback replacement has left me in the same situation as you. Would be nice to know what fixes it. Cheers.
It was a rabbit hole
Buying a different brand monitor fixes it.
I'm good with the altering between the two, just love to see the Bronco worked on.
"Before": like all days! "After": It's Christmas, Guys!!!!" :). Great work, John!!
Its only a dream for me to have One pinball machine in my life, but i follow you and im happy for you to see how change all lights for led and how that can be great and beutyfull with the led, thats realy change your machine wow!
It's like a brand new game again !!! Looks Awesome dude !!!
Hey John , i just stopped by to say i love your videos, your tutorials and projects are a joy to watch. Big respect.
Keep em coming.
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+manystar thank you!
Awesome job! Looks way better! Poor Revenge from Mars sitting next to it is crying out to have an LED upgrade too :-) Looking forward to seeing Bronco videos.
There ya go, you used the initialism "PCB" to refer to more than just the main board(s) of the game. I like it, thanks! And yeah, the new lights really make the game look brilliant! I'm glad you got the green LEDs and put them in there, because that makes the green inserts look more like an honest-to-God "I'm GREEN and I MEAN it!" rather than the yellowy green of the other ones. :-)
This turned out stunning John. The before and after in the video were like showing night and day. Now you have LED Revenge From Mars...:D As far as MK2 vs. Bronco, I'm probably more interested in the Bronco as I've never seen work done on an old mech pinball, but swapping back and forth would be good too. Get some long underwear and work through the winter with that propane heater.
I've never seen someone LED a Pinball 2000 so I wouldn't know for certain but I would imagine too much light on the playfield would interfere with the reflection that makes the "holograms" appear.
New to the channel love it tastic job keep up the great work And thanks for taking us along Learned so much
Yeah the first 4 you did changed the color of the insert from orange to purple, interesting its a way to mod the playfield with your own color scheme; and if you wanted it to just be brighter yet retain factory colors just use sunlight on them all to mimic the original bulb. Pretty cool. I think the warm was better in the 4 green 1x-5x inserts rather than the green bulbs and the 2 lime green arrows above might of been good with green, but they do all match now which is nice. Machine looks incredible, huge improvement.
Great vid pal, looks fantastic - LED the other pin ;) I'm happy for you to work on both games in the garage. (pro tip, rub your nutdriver on the magnet on the back of the speaker inside your Radical and it wil magnetise your nut driver). Love the vids man!
The Radical looks amazing with all of the LED's in place now. As for the garage situation, I'd personally like to see the MK2 project worked on more than the Bronco. One of the main reasons I subscribed to this channel originally was watching you fix things yourself. It has given me an interest in learning how to solder and fixing electronics myself. I'm always interested in seeing you work on the monitors yourself, but I understand you're under time constraints. It would be a shame to not see you finish the monitor yourself, but you have to do what's best for you. Keep up the great work!
Krel I agree with you completely. I think it's interesting to see him do the Bondo work and restoration to the physical cabinets, but I also like to see the soldering and electronic work on the monitors and power supplies. Otherwise it's just kind of like watching someone assemble things that are already working. Half of the fun is watching when he fixes it himself whether it's the cabinets that might be damaged or in need of restoration or non-working electronics.
Wow, John, the difference is like... night and DAY -- almost literally, haha!
Looks awesome John 😎 now I wanna put Leds in my Spy Hunter pin 🤘
Not sure if the Christmas music on every reveal is trolling us, but gotta admit it's definitely grabbing my attention every time I hear it.
It's stupid and silly. And, I like it. :)
I'd say if you need, send the monitor out. You've worked on monitors so much, sometimes you just need a break, and that's an accurate representation of any hobby that involves troubleshooting like this.
I would say, do a video on what was repaired, so we know for reference? That's one of the great things about your channel, so much information and reference here on different issues.
Keep it up! Love the MKII and Bronco plan!
I would love the alternating projects. These are both projects I want to see the most (I'm going to be working on an MK2 soon as well and I have an EM pinball that I want to work on. It's also just nice to have the videos be varied so those who don't like one project have the other to look forward to next week.
Damn John you SERIOUSLY have a legit RARE collection now in the basement
I wish I knew you personally LOL you'd never get me outta your basement
Sounds good on what you have planned to me but I have the same monitor I've been working and can not get to work so I was wanting to see what you had to do to yours. Get show as always. LED's look great.
Man what a difference. Game looks great now, just seems like you need to tune up a few things and it'll be perfect.
LEDs look great while the game is sitting there, but actually play the game for a few hours, and then see how you feel. Brighter may not be better, depending on how sensitive you are to light. (Also for me, I can see the flicker while the ball is in motion, so LEDs drive me nuts.) Just a heads up, if you are considering going LED. Try a similar machine with them first.
John, I think that pinball game looks great! The one thing I noticed is that the green flasher on the right side behind the word TAILSLIDER is not working after the LED swap.
I love vpb like Pinballarcade, and Zin pinball, and there is videos on UA-cam about making your own video pinball table using two LCD screens and I heard that visual pinball is the best app for video pinball games
Ya just have to look at the Revenge from mars next to it when your playing at the end to see how much of a difference it made. Turned out so good.
Nice with the before and after pictures :)
Looking forward to seeing the Mortal Kombat. Sounds like a good idea to alternate between both games.
1:20:11 -- I thought that was an effect you edited in for a moment. I was like "What the heck?!" :P
On video it seemed like the green looked better with the warm white LEDs rather than the green ones, which tinted it to a pale lime color instead of deep green.
It makes me wonder how a game like this would look with all warm white LEDs instead of colored ones. Seems like that would give you the colors that were originally intended, since they come closest to matching the color of the original incandescents.
I'm not a pin guy, so I don't know if I'd like LED conversions or not, but I do like the idea from a preservation point of view at least. The reduced power draw and heat is better for keeping the game in good condition. But for home use, maybe it doesn't run enough hours to matter much.
The closest I've come to any LED conversion was installing LEDs in part of the dash, cabin, and trunk area of an 80s car. Makes it easier to see and doesn't kill the battery. But I won't use LEDs for the exterior lights, I find them obnoxious on cars.
Insulate the garage walls and ceiling with Roxul, replace the window(s) with double pane, and get an insulated garage door, and epoxy coat the floor. Add a gas powered salamander heater, and BAM! No more seasonal arcade repairs!
good job
Looks amazing, great job
On the 2X...5X lights, I did rather like the warm white over the green lights. Set it apart from the upper green ones and seemed a little gentler to look at when reading the text.
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I always use colors under the inserts. Th purples will look better with a darker tone under them. Generally I have found match the insert to the color as a starting point.
Hey John have u ever done a check how much your collection is worth?
Hey john the machine looks beautiful here is a quick tip. When your trying to get bulbs out and your fingers cant get in there you can use a pencil eraser to get them out
how does that work?!
John's Arcade Game Reviews & Tech you can use the side that goes onto the pencil and put that on the bulb then twist and the rubber from the eraser grips the bulb and it actually works
And the Christmas music returns...
Did u ever put the spot
Light LED on? I want to see the difference
Love your channel
Who do you use for your chassis John? Would be a useful bit of info (plug!)
love the content John any project is cool but the bronco seems to need the most tlc
John, I've got a MK2 in pretty much the same state as yours but with a working monitor and board. I've got to strip, bondo and put on new artwork. I want to recap the monitor too. I say we make it a race. I'm getting married next week so you have about a 2 week head start. :)
Looks great. Just the orange segments in the backglass look a bit odd as the yellow LEDs are not really matching in color, probably because of the insert above that makes the yellow LED too orange. Hard to tell from the camera. Try some of the warm whites there, maybe even brighter ones or not frosted ones, but the same color as the others in the area. Also and that is just personal taste: I liked the warmer green on the multiplier lights at the bottom more you had initial in there as they were closer to what the color was initially, whereas the green LEDs seem to work better on the other more lime inserts (still a tad too bluish for my taste, but that can be because of camera exposure). Really like the pink flasher though. And good call using the super brights there. Flashers wanna be seen.
Anyway, what a difference! And you once talked bad about LEDs in pins some years ago :-) John's an LED guy now :)
Hehe, and now you have to get new stickers for the inserts as you see the wear now. I know that feeling. Now you see the imperfection. But this pin looks so great now compared to before. Guess who have to do the Revenge of Mars next as it looks dull now.
Add some spotlights and the pin will be perfect without looking tacky! Love how it came out.
PS: You forgot the coin door lights :)
I didn't forget the coin door lights! :) I put LEDs in there. I forgot to show it! :)
God yes John send the Chasis out give yourself some breathing room, and i really want to see your Bronco fix since i also have EM pinball machines and hope to learn some new stuff
mk2 coming woop woop!!
Looks good
You should try to find a UMK3 ((Ultimate mortal kombat 3)) PCB for your MKII cabinet. But that is just me saying that. Great job though!
Regarding what game to work on next, I think your Bronco will offer WAY more interesting and fresh content for your channel.
Admittedly, I've never been a MK fan. I don't like fighting games much and its run of the mill cabinet doesn't help much either. I'm worried it's going to be more of the same "bondo and monitor repair" :-) Please have it restored in that place you mentioned!
Apology accepted John, need you at least once a week don't do that anymore please lol. Seriously though that Radical pin suites you perfectly.
Yes send the monitor out for repair that way you have more time to work on other things before winter really hits.
When it comes to Virtual Pinball machines, of course the original is better, the same is true with MAME. However, I own one and would definitely suggest it. It's great for having a ton of machines in a small form factor and the force feedback is getting to the point where you can feel the ball rolling through the table etc which adds a lot that was missing from emulating pinball. That said, they still look too low res... I think a 4k one would look mostly fantastic. If 3d had taken off and they managed to build glassesless 3d they could have been a near perfect replacement. Pinball Arcade works on them thanks to mods people have made.
It's never going to be as good but when you're space constrained and love pinball so much that you'd want many machines you can't go wrong.
Be nice seeing the chassis being fixed, but as long as we get to know what was wrong and HOW it was fixed.
Love the Bronco........
Did you go through your game and count bulbs and colours and number to figure it out or just wing it?
+Sean Cooper I used the list on Marco as a starting point then modified as I saw fit.
I'd suggest this, I think in a previous video you said that the Power Drift has the wrong monitor in it. I think you said has a 27-inch monitor jammed into it, while it should have a 19 inch. If it will work on Mortal Kombat it may be worth swapping that monitor into the MK and save yourself some money. Or what you could do is what you suggested last year, If TMNT isn't going to be done until next year, then take its monitor, put it in MK2 and address that old 27inch when you finish TMNT. I disagree with what some had said, it is basement worthy, it will make money at the hanger but it will also be super popular in the basement. If I was you look into the possibility of reorganizing the stuff that is in Storage (BTW I should practice what I preach). When you have toured that stuff before you have a lot of things on very small shelves, that if you get some larger units they could be combined giving you a lot more space overall in the basement. Allowing you to do something like moving the freezer and putting games in that space.
Why not put an electric space heater in your garage? It makes working in the garage fine.
Looks like your top 2 green flashers are not working..... go into test menu and test all them.....
Finally, lights under the apron will light up the playfield where it's dark. Check a TnT video to see what I mean. Looks OK. Alternatively, put a small strip on the bottom of that ramp.
+Sean Cooper I might do that. I am aware. Part 3 in the future
Must LED Revenge from Mars! Breathe some new life into the old girl!
Insulate the garage door, move the washer, dryer & freezer into the garage = more room in the basement for games!! Forgot the bulbs in the coin slots?
I'm a lot more interested in seeing you tackle that E.M. rats nest more then yet another cabinet restore. I'm going to be in the minority I know so toggling between the MK and the Bronco is a good idea.
Every Pinball should be led modded!
i like the warm white more for the green
WINTER IS COMING!!!!!! send the MKII chassis out. Just update what was fixed.
John! I'm trying to find your video on checking b+ voltage on a g07, but I can't remember what game it was! Trying to fix my centipede. Please somebody point me in the right direction
+Ed Damage hmm. One of the Journey vids?
John's Arcade Game Reviews & Tech cool! I will check. It's been a while since I checked a g07 and couldn't remember 😂 thanks John 👍
Some of those are automotive instrument panel lamps
My opinion, fix the Bronco and get it out of the garage. Sell it fixed for some pocket money for other projects. Also, you may want to consider a JAMMA switcher for the MKII and you can toss MK I in there. If you don't mind drilling, you can put a run button in there for UMK3. But that's up to you about putting another hole in the CP.
I like the Bronco. :)
We all need to pick and choose John. It sucks but we ALL need to do it. Can't keep it in the garage with the variance in New England weather or stuff will flake.
I agree with m.k. And bronco.
Send the chassis away then you have more time to work on bronco lol
The pop bumper leds are a pain!
They sucked! Super stressful.
Mortal kombat till next year I'm guessing lol.
Any update with the Hunger bar?
+Fook Utube no. But soon
John please put LED's in your other pin there.
I know, right? I think I might have to now.
I own a Revenge From Mars with original bulbs too. To change to LEDs might be too bright for the Pinball 2000 reflection effect with the tv monitor. Any comments?
Day and night...
John the first thing you need to do is stop taking on new projects. Get off Craigslist!
I CANNOT HELP MYSELF!! :D
You need to create a new kind of club for this. AA. (Arcades Anonymous) ;P
Haha, really, Jerod! :-D
Frosties would be good for the inserts? but you can convert those standard ones you got into Fosters just rub the surface with some wet and dry 800 grit paper so it looks milky.
No. I like the bulbs I used as-is. They are not obnoxious. They look good.
I'm liking the look of it it looks factory, the only thing is that scoring thing in the back glass leaves a awful shadow hopefully after you put the lights in it will look better but I was thinking maybe you could take that plastic insert completely out and just have LEDs on stems! to stop the shadowing??
I think if you did take the plastic off the scoring system and remove the four LEDs around it so it's not bleached out!! and put the LEDs on stems would work alright
They all look like that because of that tray. I dunno about removing it.
You can always put some basic paint kids paint green on top of some clear LEDs let it dry first?
John's Arcade Game Reviews & Tech Not sure why you think Fosters would be obnoxious if they're low powered? the only problem is with LEDs you need to make a circuit for it I don't think any of them come with a discharge and charge circuit to represent a bulb action, Jeri Ellsworth makes a circuit for the LEDs to act like they are bulbs, not complicated but time consuming for each LED, improve LED pinball lamp replacement, I'm surprising none of the manufacturers of the LEDs are making this? easy can be put on the LED with surface mounted parts it just comprises of two capacitors a MOSFET a diode and two resistors. Anybody know why they don't do it probably the cost!
iloojs good John I been playing the bronco on ps2 classic pinball hall of fame it fun to play and there a real bronco here in k.c at fun house pizza. that still works just wanna let u know
+mrouse79565 what? Bronco is on the PS2????
Hey John wanna buy my Stun Runner cab just stopped working can't fix it...lol I live in Canada
Ha. No room. thanks, though! :)
sry guys and Jon the pin called big shot not the bronco
What happened to Ghost Busters?
+CosmicF it's at the Hangar
Oh my gosh! POWER DRIFT!!! Played that as a kid at a bowling ally. Have it on Saturn, arcade version is better
great... now I got stone in love stuck in my head.
Finish MK2 first.
yes that will work
yeah it's called pinball hall of fame the gottlieb collection for ps2
Yeah need to work on the lights on the skate deck on the back glass!!! That frame is too visible
+Brian Froeber it was like that with the bulbs too
John's Arcade Game Reviews & Tech any way to remove the plastic around the bulbs?
send the MK II chassis away! Save yourself!
Send the chassis out for repair, and focus on the work you cannot send out.....