Those little wheels in front should be standard in future onewheels, maybe even start adding them to the current ones that they're manufacturing right now.
At this point, I don't understand why future motion doesn't add them. It's almost criminal considering the injuries the nosedives create ; and even from a marketing perspective, the nosedive is the worst point of their product ! I don't get it.
Josh Salyers nah fangs don’t do much. My mate had some fang minis that broke on his first nosedive when he was trying to test them. The Onewheel accessory market is predatory.
For a device at this price I would expect the Onewheel to give some sort of audible warning if the tiltback isn't enough in itself. Kinda scary how it just nosedives like that.
@@CJinsoo a skateboard has 4 wheels. It won't simply tilt to one side and throw you off. Electric or not. This is different from any self - balancing unit.
@@Zuflux Try explaining that to anyone who has been thrown off a skate board, seemingly unexpectedly. This is a distinction without a difference because with the skateboard it is user generated input and feedback, or a rock or twig that the user didn’t see. On the the rock or twig, the Pint should take care of that due to the motor and mammoth tire, so the rider on the Pint now has to compensate and expect deviation from the motor, battery, and programming. Use at your own risk.
Exactly, this should have been incorporated into the design from the start. Ever since I saw Adam Savage take a pretty bad nose dive, I was turned off to the one wheel. I thought why don't they have a little wheel in the front so the nose doesn't dig in? Glad some one thought of this?. Now I might reconsider getting one.
I’m a little late to the party. Just bought 2 pint x’s and a gt for my kids and myself. Guessing the ranger won’t be something we will need with the new range, but the fangs look like a must have. I definitely would like the extra battery since I have all ego lawn equipment. Thanks for the content! War Eagle!!
@@MrDmadness You are comparing apples to oranges. how is a handheld stick comparable to a transport device? motorcycles and cars and bicycles are constantly upgrading their safety features.
My new battery model will be tested In the spring and production mid summer, hopefully July. It will offer swappable batterys, but a single pack will double the range. Have production model in auto cad. Form fitted moulds, so no invasive brick on your wheel. First production will be to extend the pint range ( double ) . Plug and play.
Great video showing how well these mods work. Another difference of the Vampire connection method is that the app shows the % battery level like it does without the EGO. But the OW power button no longer switches both batteries on/off, only the internal.
The best onewheel accessory by far is the kush hi footpad. Any concave footpad will make a huge difference in your riding, but the kush hi is the best in my opinion.
Speaking of add-ons, I could think of an extra batteries build on the top of the fender forming a seat, then with a handlebar in front, you be riding the legendary ONEWHEEL UNICYCLE!!!
hahahaha great video man! I appreciate you sharing the experience and insight. The DJ'ing at the end had me cracking up. I will definitely have to pick up some fangs. The nose dive is inevitable. I'm 40 so I don't heal as quickly as I did when I was 20. If these little fangs can save me from getting hurt they're worth their weight in gold!
It should come with wheels from the factory. One of my main deterances from getting one is fears that the company will lose a lawsuit do to an injury and go under.
Would make more sense to just create a thicker fender with integrated battery cells that is better balanced and less obtrusive. Someone with a 3D printer could mock one up for a production version in under a day
Yea I have seen some diy ones like that. Def makes more sense. This is just a cheap way to use the batteries that many ppl already have. It’s a compromise and just like most compromises...🤷♂️
TLDR: DO NOT HOT SWAP YOUR BATTERIES. IT WILL FRY YOUR BMS AND DAMAGE YOUR BOARD. So I saw this and wanted to post this for anyone who might watch this video and want to do the same thing! The Land Ranger Kit's are awesome. It uses a method called VnR 'Vamp N Ride. It drains both the OW battery and the EGO battery at the same time. So when one is dead, both are dead. When you plug in a fully charged EGO battery, 'a rush of current will go into the depleted battery and it will affect its health/lifespan. 20% voltage difference between the 2 batteries is okay.' - SonnyWheels FAQ. The point is, VNR your board. If you want extra range, run the two EGO batteries in parallel on the fender or in a backpack, and use all the batteries at once. When you hot swap, you will end up damaging your board and end up spending quite a lot on replacement parts early.
If you want to hot swap batteries, you need a CnR or PnR (Charge and Ride, Plug and Ride) solution. Instead of tapping into the power lines, you plug an XLR cable into the board and charge on the go. You have to wait until your board is down to at least 80% and you have to switch it off when going down hills to prevent overcharging, and you have to have a hardware version 3206 or earlier to make it work. This makes VnR more appealing, but with the CnR you can ride as long as you have charged batteries, making it a possible solution for ultra-long range riding
yea the rate that the juice rushed to the OW batter I believe is within its specs to handle (I thought I also read this on landsurfs website), buuut I also had a pretty old board with over 3000 miles so i wanst too worried about the battery honestly. its def safer to not hot swap them like I did but it kept riding fine after doing that a few time then later died due to excessive water damage lol
I have those fangs on mine and I got launched when they touched down and broke my wrist and my elbow. The board stopped the second they touched the ground. Very scary!
Asuhh Dude It was maybe 10 mph but I just didn't expect that to happen. It really caught me off guard. 8 months later my wrist is still sore. I am getting over my fear and riding again little by little. I bought some safety gear too. Be goddam careful out there especially going up hill!!!
For those of you wondering why the company doesn’t add these wheels to future OneWheels.... that’s because by adding the wheels it will admit to a problem they’re not ready to accept yet.
or it will make you reliant on tiny wheels not suitable for all surfaces to save you during times where you shouldve jumped off and just catapult you straight into the ground
On one hand, including the wheels takes away some of the choice and trick potential of a Onewheel, forces Onewheel to admit their safety features are sometimes wrong (and that they haven't been able to remedy the problem yet), and isn't a guaranteed fix. On the other hand... fangs can be kind of cool; if Onewheel supported Land Surf, they kind of help build a little Onewheel Economy and community; they admit that the Onewheel does not always behave as expected and that they are aware and have a solution; and maybe this would open the door for other accessories to be officially supported.
I took a ride up to Tandem on the XR. Parked at Welborn street. I put 2 miles riding around downtown before heading that way. When I got to Tandem I had 22% left! Riding up that way is a slight hill that you really don’t notice haha. Charged while eating to about 60% and headed back. Got back with 8%. Feet were numb after 20 miles
i wonder why it didn't come with fang wheels in the first place. It's primary purpose is safety more than convenience. Now oversized fang wheels or different colored wheels, etc. could be considered a accessory / customization but otherwise they should have always been there in the first place
@@JohnDDyer True. At least (it seems) there is a community and aftermarket that hasn't given up on the onewheel. I am happy to see people working together on new technology, even if sometimes it feels like reinventing the wheel ; ) (wheel pun)
TLDR; Don't hot swap batteries after you've gone through the first one. Thank you for the video. It looks like you are wiring the EGO pack in parallel with the onboard battery. I've just started using a similar setup that uses EGO batteries but uses the XLR charge port instead of a parallel setup. I don't believe the XLR method is materially different than a direct parallel hookup (i.e. I don't think there are electronics in the OW to limit current flow through the charge port...but I have yet to get a factual answer on this). When you swap EGO batteries from depleted to a fresh pack, you may be hitting your OW battery with many AMPs depending on differences in voltage between the EGO and the OW. I don't think this would be a problem when the OW & EGO are both fully charged. Have you measured the current draw with a multimeter in amp mode? On my OW, I see a spike of 5A when initially connecting a full EGO to a 85% OW (58v EGO connect to ~54v OW) this quickly settles down to 3A range. For reference, the OW+ charger is 3.5A@58v so a 5A spike is not a crazy amount. I would think hooking a 58v EGO to an empty OW (48-49v) would spike MANY amps...be careful, these big ego batteries have potential to flow a lot of current 2.5Ah=20A, 5.0Ah=40A, 7.5Ah=60A. I'm not an electrical engineer but it's my understanding that DC DC parallel hookups like this will attempt to equalize on voltage as fast as possible, which could result in a lot of heat. At the end of the day, I think any method that uses a single EGO battery to hook up when both packs are near full is fine....but when you plugged that 2.5 in after your onboard was getting low, I cringed. Can you report back on your experience with how many times you've done field battery swaps (full to empty) and if you've seen and adverse effects to the range of the onboard pack? Also when you do an EGO battery swap when the OW is low, do you notice the wires hooking to the XT90 connector getting hot? For those interested, check out this link about batteries: physics.stackexchange.com/questions/64509/different-batteries-connected-in-parallel
It blows my mind that these don’t come with wheels on the front from the factory. That’s just a poor design. I also can’t believe that the rear deck doesn’t have a pressure sensor to sense if you take your rear foot off and stop the thing from teaching you how to do the splits.
Nice review! I still need to pick myself up a set of Fangs. Actually, looks like they have version 2.1 out now! Didn't know about the battery mod....very cool!
I'd love to use that old ranger. I've been thinking of doing the whole thing diy according to their manual, but putting two metal plates (battery commectors) into that plastic housing isn't easy. This would be the ultimate solution. :D
I definitely want it body I hope I’m not too late I’m a beginner on onewheel and definitely need a range extended to practice more and learn faster 🙏 btw great video as a newbie I learned a lot thanks bro 👌💪🖖
You know i wouldnt mind getting one of these but for almost 2k you have to put it on yourself to fix the thing to keep it from killing you thats just bull
Dang from Greenville to TR and back that's impressive, I live in Spartanburg deciding if I want a onewheel or not and I definitely think I'll be keeping and eye out for a good deal on one now
if the day ever comes that i get a one wheel, im 100% getting those little extra wheels to prevent nose dives. i live in Australia so the tax and price might be higher, but the fact i would be paying over $1000 for the board, doesn't change to pay a little extra for safety first.
Can you not get any range extenders now? I can’t find a single one... if anyone knows where I can purchase one please point me in that direction. Thank you!!!
Just installed the FANG Mini 2.0's myself. Hey, even 1 save makes them well worth the $$. Hopefully, I never have to test them myself...but glad I have them installed. What % would you say your battery was at when you see those nosedive conditions heading uphill? I'm very cautious once I hit 10% battery.
Yea man it’s def an awesome feature! I am hoping one day future motion makes a board with swappable batteries. Would be awesome for travel, long rides and everything.... one day😃
Yea it’s a lot of range. The big battery was 4x. The little one is 2x. Just depends on how important the range is. My favorite ride was just out of my range which really sucked...
That nose dive anticipation was like a jumpscare in a horror flick. Glad you road it out smooth and safe. Another great video. Thanks for sharing. And interested in your old ranger. Thanks for the giveaway👍
The fang wheels won’t allow you to ride out a high speed nose dive. How do I know? Because I nosedived at high speed with the fangs and got thrown onto the pavement HARD.I’m thinking if you had run higher air pressure at the stock setting of 20psi you’d have gotten better range. I noticed a pretty dramatic improvement going to 22-24 psi with my stock tire.
I was a KS backer of the OG Onewheel & I never understood why those wheels are not a standard feature. Same goes for the sensor pads, they should be on both sides. Those two things would solve 90% of the issues with it.
sometimes there is pushback but sometimes it just happens...its the main thing I dont like about the onewheel that they need to address in future builds in my opinion....the fangs help tho for sure!
@@JohnDDyer thanks man, I actually bought one of these and have been riding it around.. I landed on my hip so damn hard on friday that it bruised almost my whole side lol luckily i was on a dirt trail instead of pavement. I cant imagine how damaged id be on pavement. like I could barely walk for 3 days it was so much impact
I've already done this, its amazing. 2 x 12 ah.. I recommend knowing wire gauges and electrical readings, nothing short of oscilloscope grade before attempting this though, a straight plug in without a charge controller = burned stuff ;) there is no such thing as dead battery... ever.. :) dead legs after lots of rough though, that's a thing .
@@MrDmadness haha nice my 12.0 powers my chopsaw for more than 16 hours worth of cutting so I can only imagine how much 2 would power something like this.
yea I could see that, I was trying to keep it low for to reduce the tipping. Land surf has some fangs with larger wheels too if you are interested. I got mine free so I couldnt be picky :)
Yea man it’s a tough one. If you have anyone else to ride with, wife , girlfriend, nephew, kids etc. I would recommend starting with a pint and then seeing how many other people love it then get a second pint. Riding on your own is awesome but sharing that float feeling is even better 😃
My Electric unicycle gives me roughly 50 miles per charge, if you onewheel riders want something that takes you everywhere and does not suffer from the same limitations, it’s highly recommend
haha well its there, the Land Surf Fangs for the pint were announced buuuut they still havent been produced bc of Covid, cost issues etc (atleast thats the last I know) :(
Those little wheels in front should be standard in future onewheels, maybe even start adding them to the current ones that they're manufacturing right now.
Yea I can see that for sure. They really help a lot. I can’t wait for them to come out on the pint!
Then it would be a three wheel lol
At this point, I don't understand why future motion doesn't add them. It's almost criminal considering the injuries the nosedives create ; and even from a marketing perspective, the nosedive is the worst point of their product ! I don't get it.
@@6061 Wouldn't be as effective but they could put real "fangs" instead. Titanium maybe, or hardened steel.
Josh Salyers nah fangs don’t do much. My mate had some fang minis that broke on his first nosedive when he was trying to test them.
The Onewheel accessory market is predatory.
The fang wheels is a smart safety feature... I'm too old to be spilling out lol 👍🏿🤓
Oh for sure me too!
For a device at this price I would expect the Onewheel to give some sort of audible warning if the tiltback isn't enough in itself. Kinda scary how it just nosedives like that.
Yea it’s not cool for sure and I totally agree with you
Yep! I’ve been posting the same thing. There is no reason they couldn’t have that feature.
What sort of warning do you need when you ride your skateboard?
@@CJinsoo a skateboard has 4 wheels. It won't simply tilt to one side and throw you off. Electric or not. This is different from any self - balancing unit.
@@Zuflux Try explaining that to anyone who has been thrown off a skate board, seemingly unexpectedly. This is a distinction without a difference because with the skateboard it is user generated input and feedback, or a rock or twig that the user didn’t see. On the the rock or twig, the Pint should take care of that due to the motor and mammoth tire, so the rider on the Pint now has to compensate and expect deviation from the motor, battery, and programming.
Use at your own risk.
The fang is great I thought of that immediately as soon as I saw the safety concerns it seems so intuitive
Yea for sure!
@@JohnDDyer what site you get that tire? Can you explain pros cons with the treaded tire? Looks nice though.
Exactly, this should have been incorporated into the design from the start. Ever since I saw Adam Savage take a pretty bad nose dive, I was turned off to the one wheel. I thought why don't they have a little wheel in the front so the nose doesn't dig in? Glad some one thought of this?. Now I might reconsider getting one.
Why not put the that battery at the top of the wheel?
The fangs are everything. Genius. Love ❤️ it. Adding the one wheel to the collection now.
awesome man, I love mine for sure
I’m a little late to the party. Just bought 2 pint x’s and a gt for my kids and myself. Guessing the ranger won’t be something we will need with the new range, but the fangs look like a must have. I definitely would like the extra battery since I have all ego lawn equipment. Thanks for the content! War Eagle!!
The safety feature is an add-on should be more like a recall they should all come with that for what this item cost
yea man I really like it, I need it for the Pint!
You dont get gloves or padding when you buy a hockey stick either.
@@MrDmadness your hockey stick won't send yound on concrete at 15mph.
@@JsDentonable your not very good with extrapolation...
@@MrDmadness You are comparing apples to oranges. how is a handheld stick comparable to a transport device? motorcycles and cars and bicycles are constantly upgrading their safety features.
I don't like the position of the battery. it would be better off on the top-middle of the fender.
yea I was worried that putting it too high would rock the board more (I wanted to keep the cg lower) I never tried it up top tho....
That is what I was thinking. It seems that it would be uncomfortable and would interfere with your foot placement.
My new battery model will be tested In the spring and production mid summer, hopefully July. It will offer swappable batterys, but a single pack will double the range. Have production model in auto cad. Form fitted moulds, so no invasive brick on your wheel. First production will be to extend the pint range ( double ) . Plug and play.
@@mikeloki2064 you would then have a dangly wire.. from you to the board, which is shit
@@mikeloki2064 yeah carry a 5 lb battery on your arm for 10+miles and tell me how that feels
Those fangs are rad. Cool video man, very informative. Well done sir.
Yea man I was super impressed! Thanks big time!
Great video. Very informative.
Thanks Thomas!
killer editing on this video! I like the smartphone screen capture overlays.
Thanks man! It takes forever but it’s fun!!
Haha, I guess I'm a little late to the party but I just found a new rail trail. Greetings from Charlotte!
My heart jumped when you nose-dived and played the haunting music haha
so did mine!
That’s cool. But also illustrates why I just bought an average EUC. I can already do double his added device distance from stock on my inmotion V10.
I just got the same EUC :)
Great video showing how well these mods work. Another difference of the Vampire connection method is that the app shows the % battery level like it does without the EGO. But the OW power button no longer switches both batteries on/off, only the internal.
Thanks Mike! Yea I still think I would rather go down that path than open up the battery. It was pretty tight in that thing!
🎉thanks, I feel I could buy one some day now that it has fangs!
Your OneWheel looks like it’s re-entered the Earths atmosphere twice !
hahah yea its been through hell from me and the previous owner lol
The best onewheel accessory by far is the kush hi footpad. Any concave footpad will make a huge difference in your riding, but the kush hi is the best in my opinion.
man sounds awesome, I am topped out on onewheel spending for now lol, maybe next year!!
Thanks for the review, most helpful I've found yet! Sold on both and will be ordering for my Onewheel +
Awesome!! Thanks!
Great vid. War Eagle! I just ordered an XR and I’m looking forward to taking it out to the trails at Chewacla.
awesome Brock! let me know how it goes, I havent ridden back there yet!
The fangs was my idea at one point. Im glad to see they added them.
Yea they are great! I’m still waiting for the pint ones....
Fangs should come standard with any onewheel. I got road rash first day of riding.
agreed.....onewheel needs some help in the safety department
Speaking of add-ons, I could think of an extra batteries build on the top of the fender forming a seat, then with a handlebar in front, you be riding the legendary ONEWHEEL UNICYCLE!!!
hahhahahahahhahah
hahahaha great video man! I appreciate you sharing the experience and insight. The DJ'ing at the end had me cracking up. I will definitely have to pick up some fangs. The nose dive is inevitable. I'm 40 so I don't heal as quickly as I did when I was 20. If these little fangs can save me from getting hurt they're worth their weight in gold!
yea man I totally hear ya, those fangs are awesome for sure!! I dont know why i waited so long to get them!
@@JohnDDyer I'm not sure why I waited so long either. Got them ordered now though!
It should come with wheels from the factory. One of my main deterances from getting one is fears that the company will lose a lawsuit do to an injury and go under.
Would make more sense to just create a thicker fender with integrated battery cells that is better balanced and less obtrusive. Someone with a 3D printer could mock one up for a production version in under a day
Yea I have seen some diy ones like that. Def makes more sense. This is just a cheap way to use the batteries that many ppl already have. It’s a compromise and just like most compromises...🤷♂️
The fender itself should be the battery
South Carolina 👍👍👍. Representing Winston Salem, NC . The shot of the fangs working is a strong point too.
Yea man thanks. I was nervous the first time for sure!
Why One Wheel doesn't install fangs from factory is just insane to me. I've heard 100's of stories of the same nosedive falls.
ROOOOLLLLL TIDE ROLL!! Haha sorry I had to... Thanks for the great video!
TLDR: DO NOT HOT SWAP YOUR BATTERIES. IT WILL FRY YOUR BMS AND DAMAGE YOUR BOARD.
So I saw this and wanted to post this for anyone who might watch this video and want to do the same thing! The Land Ranger Kit's are awesome. It uses a method called VnR 'Vamp N Ride. It drains both the OW battery and the EGO battery at the same time. So when one is dead, both are dead. When you plug in a fully charged EGO battery, 'a rush of current will go into the depleted battery and it will affect its health/lifespan. 20% voltage difference between the 2 batteries is okay.' - SonnyWheels FAQ.
The point is, VNR your board. If you want extra range, run the two EGO batteries in parallel on the fender or in a backpack, and use all the batteries at once. When you hot swap, you will end up damaging your board and end up spending quite a lot on replacement parts early.
If you want to hot swap batteries, you need a CnR or PnR (Charge and Ride, Plug and Ride) solution. Instead of tapping into the power lines, you plug an XLR cable into the board and charge on the go. You have to wait until your board is down to at least 80% and you have to switch it off when going down hills to prevent overcharging, and you have to have a hardware version 3206 or earlier to make it work. This makes VnR more appealing, but with the CnR you can ride as long as you have charged batteries, making it a possible solution for ultra-long range riding
yea the rate that the juice rushed to the OW batter I believe is within its specs to handle (I thought I also read this on landsurfs website), buuut I also had a pretty old board with over 3000 miles so i wanst too worried about the battery honestly. its def safer to not hot swap them like I did but it kept riding fine after doing that a few time then later died due to excessive water damage lol
@@JohnDDyer
Always a sad day when a OW gets hit with that splishy splashy.
agreed, this comment should be promoted or similar warning put in the description.
That was a steal for the 7.5ah , where I am it costs $600 for the battery without any accessories
FB marketplace used man (if you have it)! Gotta find someone that the ego mower wasnt enough to cut the whole yard ;)
I have those fangs on mine and I got launched when they touched down and broke my wrist and my elbow. The board stopped the second they touched the ground. Very scary!
Yikes. How fast were you going?
^^
Asuhh Dude It was maybe 10 mph but I just didn't expect that to happen. It really caught me off guard. 8 months later my wrist is still sore. I am getting over my fear and riding again little by little. I bought some safety gear too. Be goddam careful out there especially going up hill!!!
For those of you wondering why the company doesn’t add these wheels to future OneWheels.... that’s because by adding the wheels it will admit to a problem they’re not ready to accept yet.
Indeed. And it would be a threewheel 🤣
General HowTo that it is not a true one wheel if it has extra wheels
Threewheel.com was taken already.
or it will make you reliant on tiny wheels not suitable for all surfaces to save you during times where you shouldve jumped off and just catapult you straight into the ground
On one hand, including the wheels takes away some of the choice and trick potential of a Onewheel, forces Onewheel to admit their safety features are sometimes wrong (and that they haven't been able to remedy the problem yet), and isn't a guaranteed fix.
On the other hand... fangs can be kind of cool; if Onewheel supported Land Surf, they kind of help build a little Onewheel Economy and community; they admit that the Onewheel does not always behave as expected and that they are aware and have a solution; and maybe this would open the door for other accessories to be officially supported.
I have fangs on my corvette. Nice accessory
That thing is huge and looks like it makes the back space alot smaller. They should have a groove for your leg/ankle in the battery.
Fangs and ranger mod for Pint would be sweet, nice video John 🤟
No doubt! I can’t wait for those fangs! I wasn’t a big fan of the way the other options out there looked right now...
I took a ride up to Tandem on the XR. Parked at Welborn street. I put 2 miles riding around downtown before heading that way. When I got to Tandem I had 22% left! Riding up that way is a slight hill that you really don’t notice haha. Charged while eating to about 60% and headed back. Got back with 8%. Feet were numb after 20 miles
Damn man! Yea 20 miles my feet were numb too!
when they leave u behind on their boosters just say "hey guys u wanna take a shortcut" when it's a dirt path 😂
Hahah now ur talkin!
War Eagle John!! Loved the video!
War Damn baby!
greenvilleeee 🤘🏼
Nice vid I like the fang drag term lol I don't have a 1wheel yet but this really helps to know
Yea man anytime! Time to get one!!
Very informative! Will also check those Fangs links.
i wonder why it didn't come with fang wheels in the first place. It's primary purpose is safety more than convenience. Now oversized fang wheels or different colored wheels, etc. could be considered a accessory / customization but otherwise they should have always been there in the first place
Totally agree. Onewheel is a little lacking on the safety front...🤷♂️
@@JohnDDyer True. At least (it seems) there is a community and aftermarket that hasn't given up on the onewheel. I am happy to see people working together on new technology, even if sometimes it feels like reinventing the wheel ; ) (wheel pun)
TLDR; Don't hot swap batteries after you've gone through the first one.
Thank you for the video. It looks like you are wiring the EGO pack in parallel with the onboard battery. I've just started using a similar setup that uses EGO batteries but uses the XLR charge port instead of a parallel setup. I don't believe the XLR method is materially different than a direct parallel hookup (i.e. I don't think there are electronics in the OW to limit current flow through the charge port...but I have yet to get a factual answer on this).
When you swap EGO batteries from depleted to a fresh pack, you may be hitting your OW battery with many AMPs depending on differences in voltage between the EGO and the OW. I don't think this would be a problem when the OW & EGO are both fully charged. Have you measured the current draw with a multimeter in amp mode? On my OW, I see a spike of 5A when initially connecting a full EGO to a 85% OW (58v EGO connect to ~54v OW) this quickly settles down to 3A range. For reference, the OW+ charger is 3.5A@58v so a 5A spike is not a crazy amount. I would think hooking a 58v EGO to an empty OW (48-49v) would spike MANY amps...be careful, these big ego batteries have potential to flow a lot of current 2.5Ah=20A, 5.0Ah=40A, 7.5Ah=60A. I'm not an electrical engineer but it's my understanding that DC DC parallel hookups like this will attempt to equalize on voltage as fast as possible, which could result in a lot of heat.
At the end of the day, I think any method that uses a single EGO battery to hook up when both packs are near full is fine....but when you plugged that 2.5 in after your onboard was getting low, I cringed.
Can you report back on your experience with how many times you've done field battery swaps (full to empty) and if you've seen and adverse effects to the range of the onboard pack?
Also when you do an EGO battery swap when the OW is low, do you notice the wires hooking to the XT90 connector getting hot?
For those interested, check out this link about batteries: physics.stackexchange.com/questions/64509/different-batteries-connected-in-parallel
what method is using the XLR port? I agree that would be the best solution for pure range. It also should not void the warranty.
@@jimkatoe3888 only ow+ model with certain hardware revision. Check out somnywheels charge n ride
So wild, watching your video and then you mention Travelers Rest and Greenville and exactly where I live! #FLOATLIFE!!!
All One-Wheelers suffer from PTSD from their First Nosedive. You see it in their riding. Sticking to my Meepo. 1/3 of the Price too!
Esk8 and euc's are the way to go.
yea I have all 3 now, still have a little PTSD from the nosedives but time does help with that for sure...
It blows my mind that these don’t come with wheels on the front from the factory. That’s just a poor design. I also can’t believe that the rear deck doesn’t have a pressure sensor to sense if you take your rear foot off and stop the thing from teaching you how to do the splits.
I made a battery that curves with the fender and that is four times bigger then your battery mod I got 56miles on one charge
Damn that’s awesome!!
Is it for the XR or for the pint?
Nice review! I still need to pick myself up a set of Fangs. Actually, looks like they have version 2.1 out now! Didn't know about the battery mod....very cool!
thanks man! you def need some fangs, they are awesome! I just saw your Channel too, I am also waiting for my Skydio 2 but I'm in the second batch :(
I have pint and is excited for the fangs to come out. Ive alread nose dive going up hill and only tore some ligaments. Lucky for me not major.
Oh man I am so sorry, I nosedived too it really sucks... I am still anxiously awaiting the pint fangs too!
Hot swapping batteries though that’s smart
yea baby!
Greenville is so nice. Was just there for the Fall For Greenville Fest. Good food. 👍
yea man I am super lucky to live there! its awesome :)
War Eagle!
Great Review on the fangs!
I'd love to use that old ranger. I've been thinking of doing the whole thing diy according to their manual, but putting two metal plates (battery commectors) into that plastic housing isn't easy. This would be the ultimate solution. :D
Oh man I think its already got a new home, but I will let you know if it falls through...
@@JohnDDyer Yee I came a bit late to this. As long as it gets used it's cool. :)
Great vid. Thanks for posting this
Anytime man!
I definitely want it body I hope I’m not too late I’m a beginner on onewheel and definitely need a range extended to practice more and learn faster 🙏 btw great video as a newbie I learned a lot thanks bro 👌💪🖖
Hey man any time! Unfortunately it’s already gone... thanks for watching tho!!
Even with the extra battery, you only got 19 miles? Then inserting a 2nd extra battery you still didn't make it home?
You know i wouldnt mind getting one of these but for almost 2k you have to put it on yourself to fix the thing to keep it from killing you
thats just bull
Dang from Greenville to TR and back that's impressive, I live in Spartanburg deciding if I want a onewheel or not and I definitely think I'll be keeping and eye out for a good deal on one now
yea used can be good too just try to check it out in person to make sure it all looks legit.
if the day ever comes that i get a one wheel, im 100% getting those little extra wheels to prevent nose dives. i live in Australia so the tax and price might be higher, but the fact i would be paying over $1000 for the board, doesn't change to pay a little extra for safety first.
100% agree!
Need make a tethered battery for a backpack cable to board with higher grade battery.
Great video bro appreciate it 🤙🏻 ride safe
Thanks man you too!
Can you not get any range extenders now? I can’t find a single one... if anyone knows where I can purchase one please point me in that direction. Thank you!!!
My guess of why you don’t get expected range is the battery is degraded since it was used when you got it (battery’s lose capacity over time)
Just installed the FANG Mini 2.0's myself. Hey, even 1 save makes them well worth the $$. Hopefully, I never have to test them myself...but glad I have them installed. What % would you say your battery was at when you see those nosedive conditions heading uphill? I'm very cautious once I hit 10% battery.
I would be careful below 50% honestly
This video made so much more comfortable in purchasing one, knowing there's those fangs lol im scared of breaking something
Yea they are an amazing product! Still waiting on them for the pint tho 🙄
Wde John. Great video, man. Glad I stumbled onto your channel.
thanks man, WDE!!
Wow fantastic video bud and that's cool having 2 extra batteries with you incase the board dies on you woow! I wanna do the same one day :D
Yea man it’s def an awesome feature! I am hoping one day future motion makes a board with swappable batteries. Would be awesome for travel, long rides and everything.... one day😃
the fangs are dope but I can't imagine putting such a massive addition on a onewheel for a little more range
It's not a little... its 4x
Yea it’s a lot of range. The big battery was 4x. The little one is 2x. Just depends on how important the range is. My favorite ride was just out of my range which really sucked...
"no more nosedives" hahahaha
Yeah I think it's that tyre. Mine with the Ego 2.5 battery gets 11-12 miles, with the Ego 5.0 I got 19 miles. That on the Vega.
It's one thing when you can predict the nosedive, but when it comes unexpected is a different story
oh for sure but I would still rather have the fangs than not have them, they at least give you a chance!
@@JohnDDyer send a good link for me to purchase some for myself please
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do you know if the range extender also works with the pint?
the land surf ranger doesnt, but I think sonny wheels has one that does.
John D Dyer where do I find this sonny wheels guy
I wouldn't call these accessories as much as necessities! Spare batteries and fang-wheels are bare minimum along with the charging port cover.
totally agree...
That nose dive anticipation was like a jumpscare in a horror flick. Glad you road it out smooth and safe. Another great video. Thanks for sharing.
And interested in your old ranger. Thanks for the giveaway👍
Man it was super scary for me lol. It looks like the old ranger has already found a home. I will let you know if it falls through tho.
@@JohnDDyer no worries. Yeah, i get my fangs in tomorrow. Just stepped up from Pint to Plus and having a blast. But a little insurance is nice
The fang wheels won’t allow you to ride out a high speed nose dive. How do I know? Because I nosedived at high speed with the fangs and got thrown onto the pavement HARD.I’m thinking if you had run higher air pressure at the stock setting of 20psi you’d have gotten better range. I noticed a pretty dramatic improvement going to 22-24 psi with my stock tire.
oh man I am sorry, yea the nosedives are the worst, its always in the back of my mind honestly...
I was a KS backer of the OG Onewheel & I never understood why those wheels are not a standard feature. Same goes for the sensor pads, they should be on both sides. Those two things would solve 90% of the issues with it.
Why can’t the extra battery be mounted directly above the wheel rather than being tilted back?
Oh you can mount it wherever. I was just trying to minimize the moment arm created by the extra weight.
wow i didn't realize the nosedive was that sudden. thatd definitely buck you off without those fangs. Is there no warning for when it'll happen??
sometimes there is pushback but sometimes it just happens...its the main thing I dont like about the onewheel that they need to address in future builds in my opinion....the fangs help tho for sure!
@@JohnDDyer thanks man, I actually bought one of these and have been riding it around.. I landed on my hip so damn hard on friday that it bruised almost my whole side lol luckily i was on a dirt trail instead of pavement. I cant imagine how damaged id be on pavement. like I could barely walk for 3 days it was so much impact
I wonder if anyone's done a mod to splice in a couple drill batteries?
Like Makita brand or Ridgid? Good idea 💡
ranger just boosts the battery by placement of additional battery-it doesn't charge up when riding?
you can use 2x for more range to
Nice video, man! I could definitely put that ranger mount to good use!
Alright man first comment she’s all yours! Hit me up on Instagram so I can get your shipping details!
@@JohnDDyer Thanks!!! Sent you a dm on insta!
What wrist guards are you using? They look cool
Lmao the borat scene
Hahaha you know it!
Did they stop selling the ranger modification? It's not on the website anymore.
Thank John, cool video.
Any idea what the cost of the fangs for Pint might be?
I suspect they will be around $50 similar to the ones for the XR/Plus but I honestly don’t know. I’m just ready to try them out!
should retrofit one of these with one of my tools 12.0 Ah milwaukee batterys, that would be funny to see lol.
oh baby! that would be uuuuuuuuuuge! hahahha
I've already done this, its amazing. 2 x 12 ah.. I recommend knowing wire gauges and electrical readings, nothing short of oscilloscope grade before attempting this though, a straight plug in without a charge controller = burned stuff ;) there is no such thing as dead battery... ever.. :) dead legs after lots of rough though, that's a thing .
@@MrDmadness haha nice my 12.0 powers my chopsaw for more than 16 hours worth of cutting so I can only imagine how much 2 would power something like this.
I would of moved that battery mod up a little more higher and would personally would like a slightly bigger fang wheels.
yea I could see that, I was trying to keep it low for to reduce the tipping. Land surf has some fangs with larger wheels too if you are interested. I got mine free so I couldnt be picky :)
You had a little rain in this video be it do you or have you had any issues with it and rain and water
That looks very much in the way of things. Hate to have a battery rubbed up against my leg that close.
I'd definitely want the fangs
Yea I was really impressed by them!
@@JohnDDyer yeah they'd definitely be good for beginners or anyone in general. I know going 15mph+ I don't want to be flung off the board
For sure! I can’t wait for them for the pint!
@@JohnDDyer I still can't decide if I want the xr or the pint
Yea man it’s a tough one. If you have anyone else to ride with, wife , girlfriend, nephew, kids etc. I would recommend starting with a pint and then seeing how many other people love it then get a second pint. Riding on your own is awesome but sharing that float feeling is even better 😃
Awsome video could definetly use the old ranger cheers
Sorry man it’s already at its new home... thanks for watching tho!!
My Electric unicycle gives me roughly 50 miles per charge, if you onewheel riders want something that takes you everywhere and does not suffer from the same limitations, it’s highly recommend
I got one for xmas! I havent had much time to put some miles on it yet but I have really liked it!
Would you be able to have 2-3 of those adapters, or does the extra battery weight overcome that?
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battery lmao
It’s a big momma 🤣
The best onewheel accessory? A health insurance plan with a low deductible and low max out of pocket expense. You're going to need it.
Soo, what was the Pint surprise? I must have blinked, was there a surprise or did you forget to add it in?
haha well its there, the Land Surf Fangs for the pint were announced buuuut they still havent been produced bc of Covid, cost issues etc (atleast thats the last I know) :(
@@JohnDDyer Ah, I see