Why I'm Getting A Refund For Outriders (The Jimquisition)
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- Опубліковано 3 жов 2024
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How does one critique a game that they literally cannot access, even after buying it? Even if other people can get into the thing, should the critic not share their absurd experience? How forgiving does one need to be for the sake of a "AAA" videogame?
Outriders, developed by People Can Fly and published by Square Enix, is unplayable. Apparently I'm lying when I say this, but it's the truth. Be it co-op or solo, I cannot start the game, and have been almost entirely unable to since it's launch.
It's so bad I need to seek a refund, much to the chagrin of people who are mad because of facts that I cannot change.
#Outriders #SquareEnix #LooterShooter #PS5 #PC #XboxOne #PS4 #XboxSeriesX #AlwaysOnline #DRM #Servers #JimSterling #Jimquisition #Games #Game #Videogame #Reviews
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"Server issues happen with every game launch!"
That's worse. You see how that is worse right?
Its mostly because the servers are overwhelmed because that's basically when the servers are having the withstand the maxium amount of people possible playing at the same time. Its like saying oh i had to wait 30 minutes in line at McDonald's during rush hour because their was 500 people in front of people, someone responding well that's going to be at every restaurant that's overcrowded during rush hour.
@@Inviabledude45 An online game has two base expectations: A game to play, and stable connectivity with other players. Games expecting or wanting to be blockbuster smash hits -- and funded by billion-dollar companies -- should be reasonably expected to fulfill both by overestimating necessary server space and making sure the backend of the game functions properly.
@@Inviabledude45 neat. If only there were some way for this problem that keeps happening to have some sort of solution. Like renting more server space at the well known peak and then reducing the extra space as the need goes down. Like how McDonald's has the shift changes overlap during peak hours to have more people serving.
Only, it is even easier than that. You don't need to train up anyone for the servers, you don't need to worry about firing them, they are machines. The only reason this keeps happening is because it costs money and the companies keep seeing people put up with poor service, so why fix it.
@@Inviabledude45 they could probably reduce the strain by, idk, not making it always online.
@@sluttyMapleSyrup if only there were dynamic capacity hosting services, able to handle the excess demand of a game launch
This double-standard between games and their buyers is almost literally a Steven Wright joke: "My doctor told me I shouldn't work out until I'm in better shape. I told him, 'Alright; don't send me a bill until I pay you.'"
Comedic genius
It almost getting nelty...😂
LOVED THAT, starter
XD
Steven Wright is one of the funniest guys of all time, because he gives the impression that he's not even trying to be.
@@ArcaneAzmadi Definitely, both his writing and delivery are so understated that the jokes land *much* harder. And then there are gems like this that expose some truth, couched in a seemingly offhand joke. It's incredible.
"Outriders forces its players to be always online without extending the same courtesy to itself"
LMAO, that was clever.
It is clever, but it’s hardly the first game for Jim to use that on.
@@Kwatcher100 Sure. But it's the best definition I heard so far. There's tons of matching games out there... sadly it seems like this double standard has become widely accepted.
I ugly chuckled
Steph is the ruler of descriptive and biting wordplay
Imagine buying a game and telling the publisher "be patient, give me time" when they ask for the money.
That would be a blissful moment in time for a lot of us.
I am doing that. You CAN do that. By not paying for their game until it’s good and working. What a miracle concept. Wait 1 year. The game will most likely be 50% off, working, balanced, polished.
More likely to see them write that as a disclaimer on the games box cover and manual.
@@FishoD or the executives kill it off
and then the devs throw a tantrum and insist it's your fault when you refuse to buy their broken game and it doesn't get a sequel.
"You're pissed off the building is on fire? Every building is destroyed eventually, stop complaining!"
LOVE THIS
XD
Don’t forget “Really I don’t see why you’re so upset. If you have such a big problem with it why don’t you just build your own.”
and
“Why are we spending so much time putting out the fire on this building? Why aren’t we spraying water on all the other houses hm?”
@@shelbypowell9919 Or the Mark McGwire version, "I'm not here to discuss the past. I'm here to be positive about this subject."
"Look, if we hadn't set the building on fire, nobody would be able to roast wieners over the flames, now would they? Or s'mores? Yeah? So you see we had no choice BUT to set it on fire, because honestly people, who still grills over a regular fire these days? The market demands bigger fires, we're only providing what it wants. Shame about those people on the upper floors though, we thank them for the feedback we received from them in the form of their extremely unpleasant deaths and will take appropriate measures wherever required the next time we burn down a tall building full of people."
@@hazukichanx408 “I see no reason we should waste taxpayers funding these woefully inefficient public fire departments. We should instead allow the private sector to bring innovation through competition. Now if you’ll excuse me, I’ve some checks to cash.”
Imagine going into movie theatre, and the movie gets delayed by 19 days, and you are asked to wait
I think it’s more like going to see a movie, having it unwatchable, freezing and stuttering, then instead of being given your money back, simply being told to come back in an unspecified amount of time when it will hopefully be working right. Definitely gross.
So it turns out games are always online so that companies can specifically block Jim from playing their products.
Can't give us a mediocre review if they can't play our mediocre game!
You have to admit, the plan is working so far!
@@nolanbrewer877 I mean honestly we got a WORSE than Mediocre review, since it tells us, "If you buy this game on this console....you might ONLY be able to play it a few hours in 2-3 weeks! No matter HOW many times/hours/days/weeks you try to get on!!"
@@Ayameex well it’s backfired here lol
Imagine buying a movie and being unable to watch it at release despite already buying it. Imagine buying tickets to a baseball game and being unable to watch it because they’re still cleaning the seats despite the game started.
Imagine buying a book but not being able to read it because the words haven’t finished rendering yet- oh wait, I crossed into Harry Potter.
Imagine going to a play or a concert and the performers are just doing a shit performance and you're like "wtf?!" and they tell you "oh yeah, it's still a rehearsal by the way, but if you stick with us long enough we have a roadmap for how we are planning to eventually get to a finished performance".
That. That's the level of half assed unfinished stuff people are putting up with. Except apparently there is not even enough room for the public so you have to watch the rehearsal from the parking lot.
Harry Potter and the Half-Ink Prints
You speak bad about HP if the otter heads read this theyre gonna start to attacking you saying youre a bad person
@@Laezar1 Not that far from some Guns n Roses shows, I hear.
True story, I went to see a concert and the venue had a system error so they didn't let anyone in even though the band had already started. Fortunately, the band stopped and then waited for everyone to get in their seats then started over, but then the venue still tried to make them stop at their original end time. Double fortunately, that didn't work.
I haven't experienced in game bugs, but the crashes and disconnects are through the roof for me. I've never had a game crash back to the dashboard as much as this one. I'm on Series X.
I keep reading about the crashes and server disconnects, but on ps5 I have not had one since launch weekend. That disappearing inventory bug though...yikes.
Same here. Glad it was on GamePass and I didn't have to drop $60 on it
I've only ever seen a single crash on a console before, how the fuck does a company fuck up a game that badly? they know every single thing about the hardware and software you'll be running, there is no reason for a crash to ever happen. not even gilson "games" crash like that!
There are way too many platforms to handle for developers.
I updated everything on my pc, tried every advise I could find, currently playing CB2077 on ultra with no issues, but Outriders. Well 90% of the time it goes to full restart.
Imagine you download a videogame that's over 40GB. Your internet connection is slow so you download it over night (maybe 2+ days). It's finally downloaded you start the game up, your excited. And...Servers down...I JUST WANT TO PLAY A VIDEOGAME DAMN IT.
That will forever be infuriating.
Then you should consider playing another video game 🤷♂️ that one you got is visibly shit and it doesn't deserve your time and money.
Oh you mean warzone? Install 200gb of data to be told you need an additional 50gb for texture packs? And then it takes 2 hours to find a lobby where you get 200 ping. Yeah fuck online gaming hahahahahahaha
If your connection is so slow that it takes you that long to download the game, then the game publisher actively does not want you to buy the game (you don't have enough of a connection to do the "always online" thing anyways)...so don't.
@@jorymeneer7045 Dag! Have these companies forgot what compression is?! You can still get good looking stuff without busting people's hard drives. Dag! 😐
the commercials are literal horror short films
How so?
big facts, the potatos be like CAHF AH NAFL MGLW'NAFH HH' AHOR SYHA'H AH'LEGETH, NG llll OR'AZATH SYHA'HNAHH N'GHFTEPHAI N'GHA AHORNAH AH'MGLW'NAFH
I like your pic. Freya from coffee talk?
@@BillyKatze yup. love freya. my idol. hah
And I would not have it any other way.
"People have told me I'm a liar and that nobodies experiencing what I'm literally experiencing"
Fucking MOOD
Came to the comments section to say this. Neurodiverse childhood be like
The worst person is the "I'm not having any issues so you must be lying" person
Those people are rife amongst the PC community.
@@AJ-xv7oh To be fair, sometimes that answer tell you the problem is on your end.
@Mintak I agree.
Its so childish, haven't these people worked out that different people have different experiences in life yet?
There are always those peoples: "I didn't have any issues/problems with XYZ"
ALWAYS.
The fact so many gamers defend these practices is insane
And its thanks to these chuds that publishers KNOW they can pull the shit they do because there's always a large group who'll defend them.
i would like to see these people ordering a pizza to get just dough....
That's mainly because of people's passion for a game but lack of understanding. Most people I've seen in the forums chalk up criticism as mindless ranting and go back to ignoring the oblivious issues with the game and company it's developed from.
I give them a little more slack because they are not a triple A development house. They did the demo (beta) and things seemed 99% bullet proof. There was the wipe bug but it was like one was like 1 in a million. Cross platform had issues but most games don't even have that so shipping without it instead taking a huge loss made sense.
It wasn't untill after the servers were best to shit that the other bugs came up. I don't think they knew they were releasing buggy shit. The bug just came up and that happens.
“I’m fucking pissed off at the people who can’t access the game to play it! Who do they think they are?! I’m having fun, any negative position on this is absolutely null and void and fuck you”
Dear God what is the gaming community, who have we become
Anytime someone says “these prices are justified” our response should be “the CEO needs to make as much as his highest paid programmer. Then, if you need the extra money, they are justified.”
More like the same salary as a QA developer. That'll make them backpeddle. _Fast._
I didn't really think of it but it's kinda sad that some kids have grown up with all the industry's BS being "the norm".
We have always been at war with Eurasia.
@@LoveProWrestling Truf
I've been quite worried of the next generation of game devs that have grown up on mobile phone freemium games. Even lil ol roblox is flooded with that kind of shit
Yup, and they know that if they just wait and regurgitate long enough, all the gamers who remember decent products will be dead
People having loyalty to Corporations especially in the face of blatant reality is the most pathetic and sad thing ever.
As soon as someone says "They make good games, they really look after the consumer" I can't take anything else they say seriously. Not with AAA and big publishers involved.
At least Religious folk have the excuse of I DO NOT WANT TO GO TO HELL!
@@lwaves Some gamer said that about Microsoft on some other UA-cam vid.
MICROSOFT. Or as some people would say, M$...
@@lycanwarrior2137 Yeah, I've heard it said about MS, Sony, Ubisoft, many others and most laughably Bethesda (for their own games). While it's true that they can subjectively make good games, even great games, they aren't doing it, or all the other shit for the benefit of the consumer. They are doing it for the dollar.
Nobody should have any loyalty to any corporation.
I miss the days when games came out finished and ready to play, and not having to update a game that just came out.
When as that? It’s just that they can update over the air on the fly these days.
@@valiroime like the SNES, NES, and first Playstation days! Nothing needed updates because games were finished.
Devs, or at least the Execs who force them to release the unfinished games got REALLY spoiled off the fact they could send updates on the fly, thus leading to the day one train wrecks we see so often now, with bugs that would have been caught in final beta testing before release.
Jim’s experience is why I don’t play always online games period
“I REFUSE”
You're not alone there. If a game is always online I'll pass every time. I don't feel comfortable feeling like I don't really own my game without it talking to their servers
@@Stoic_Lizard same here
@@ziptiewarrior2266 You are an idiot. Other games had rough online starts that I understand. BUT if it was only day 1. MH Rise ONLY had a rough logging in DAY 1. This game, 19 days in mind you, still is like this?
How about forming your own opinions and experiences? Do you just choose things based on other people's experiences?
@@ziptiewarrior2266 They're a critic who reviews video games. It's their JOB. You're yelling at a dealership for complaining the cars are red when they specifically ordered blue.
Just recently I started playing Anthem thinking "how bad could it be?" since it was on Game Pass and oh boy was it bad. I was honestly actually enjoying the game skipping all the shitty cutscenes and going straight to the fly and pew pew until the game literally refused to continue. I was playing solo of course, but then I got to a mission, a fucking main storyline mission that you're forced to complete, in which the game will not allow you to play until you find more players. But of course, the game is fucking deserted so it's nigh impossible to find anyone. At some point the game gives up and lets you begin the mission by yourself but then each single enemy takes like 5 entire ammo magazines (not even exaggerating) just to get its shields down because it's obviously meant for multiple players. Isn't that some fantastic game design?
Basically they want you to con your friends into getting the game as well... Subtle trickery.
Yeah, that one cluster of goodness (the flying and pew pew) is gonna be lost because the rest of the package is bad
I have Anthem and I wholeheartedly both agree with you as well as regret my purchasing decision back then.
Unsurprisingly perhaps, I skipped pre-ordering Cyberpunk 2077 because I was getting "Bioware vibes" from it and boy, was my gut feeling/intuition/instinct proven right this time!
@@GoodwillWright Like a true supervillain.
Thank you for the laugh sorry for your experience
You’re not even the only reviewer who has had this experience! Yahtzee from Zero Punctuation said his time with the game was also plagued by terrible connectivity issues. This isn’t an isolated issue.
I remember the days when Steph and Yahtzee had a crossover show...
Angry Joe too but ohhhh it didn't happen to that person over there so they must be lying
Honestly Outriders isn't in a good state right now and Sterling has every right for a refund, honestly I hope he gets a refund along with everyone else that's affected.
@@adis3202 say, what happened to that show?
I don't know for sure if this was the reason, but since they left the Escapist, I would imagine it put the final nail in it.
'Ive had a car crash'
'no you haven't because my car has never crashed'
No. More like “waaa I have a red car” and were pointing out the car was known to be red prior to you purchasing it.
@@ziptiewarrior2266 That's... an awful attempt at a counter-point to that horribly overused deflection fallacy people parrot too much. Insisting that the game was 'known' to be broken before it even released therefore nobody should complain is pants-on-head bonkers
@@Housesider Especially when you level it at someone who's job it is to disseminate consumer information like....i dunno......game reviews. Its a pretty bad faith argument, not worth being taken seriously.
"My tesla caught fire!"
"That's ridiculous, Teslas don't catch fire! I would know, because MY Tesla never caught fire!"
@@ziptiewarrior2266 You need to work on your analogies
The thing that impresses me most about Jim Sterlings videos is that they can find an infinite number of "shit" Halloween costumes
I think Sterling’s house is half filled with costume
To be fair, there exists a LOT of bad halloween costumes XD
If you ever want a laugh, do a google search for crappy halloween costumes, especially of the "knockoff" variety. "Scary Skinny Skeleton Man" for Jack Skellington, for example. Or sexy It clown. It's amazing.
you think they are "Halloween" costumes?
Everyone knows Halloween is everyday
Fun fact: if you actually develop a fully-formed and complete personality and sense of self, you don't actually need to prop it up with the trappings of hobbies and can respond to criticism of things you like with something other than the panicked squealing of someone experiencing the emotional equivalent of a catastrophic hull breach.
It's absolutely jarring to see that a good amount of people never passed the phase where they take criticism of things they like as a personnal attack.
@@ungetabe yeah thats shit we argued about as toddlers then grew out of shortly after some apparently are failures even on a biological level and couldnt even grow out of such an early phase
@@ungetabe I have a condition that makes that distinction almost impossible to process, yet, somehow, I can take a moment and NOT send death threats because a thing I like isn't loved by someone else.
Some days I wonder how the neurotypical majority humanity made it this far if they behave like I did when I was ten years old.
@@VSPhotfries I hope I am not overstepping, but what condition is that ? I have never heard of such a thing.
for real man. what goes so wrong that someone replaces having a personality with brand loyalty??
This is joycon drift all over again. "You're clearly just not using them correctly because LITERALLY EVERYBODY IS LYING INCLUDING YOU"
I was not prepared for all the potatoes to turn around and stare directly into my soul while smiling
They know what we did to their past Brethren? They're out for blood.. Our Blood!! o_O
Yeah I know, it was a real commercial bake.
"We want to be Smith's Crips!" *Stares at you with dead eyes*
The void gives.
Those demonic potatoes are somehow scarier than the one that was at the end of that Goosebumps episode 'It Came From Beneath the Sink'.
I don't know if the commercial segments are supposed to give off an Eldritch Horror vibe but that's what they give me.
I do believe they represent Jim's sanity.
That and sex jokes
Well, I'm sure Jim would point out that the system of capitalism is a kind of eldritch horror.
Those singing potatoes are gonna stay with me for a while.
Peanuts
Trying to stay connected/get connected IS the endgame.
Ubisoft is gonna be pissed Square Enix beat them to market with the idea.
I'd give you an up vote but you're at 69.
Early mid and end
@@rustyshakkleford RIP
@@lowerclassbrats77 “a generous god”
5:36 can we all just appreciate how well the dancing skeletons match the background music? Whoever is the editor did a really good job
It's like the Monty Python dead parrot skit, only the fans put in a new character who is another customer siding with the shop owner for some reason.
Not to mention the fact that outriders IS the norwegin blue parrot, it was false advertizing from the start.
Sterling: "The game doesn't work".
Fans: "tHaT's NoT tHe GaMeS fAuLt"?!
If you really wanted to play the game you'd have played it in spite of the inability to play it, obviously
It's the devs fault really.
You must be wrong because DRM never hurts paying customers. Git gud.
@@fgregerfeaxcwfeffece Sure it doesn't, search up "Sonic Mania DRM"
@@btfighter8305 I think they were being sarcastic
It will never fail to astonish me that people can get so defensive over their fandoms or bad purchases that they'll dogpile gaslight someone en masse by telling them the things they have experienced... they aren't experiencing.
Is it bad, that I like Outriders despite the issues? I cannot excuse what the heck went wrong on launch and how much bugs it has... but I do still like the game. It's shit, that it runs this way...
@@Videaprojaekt If you like the game then you like the game. The issue isn't whether or not the game is likeable but how much of a sorry state it was launched in and how that is unacceptable. It's less about Outriders specifically and just the game industry as a whole that selling cars without motors or working transmissions (ie: things that are critical to a car functioning as it was sold ) is not acceptable and needs to stop.
@@Videaprojaekt That’s the perfect way to look at it, and the most rational; Saying you enjoy a game even though it has issues. Not bad at all. What is bad is the mountains of fucking donuts who will completely neglect that the issues exist and aggressively attack those expressing their issues. Publishers release broken games because they know those people exist, and it’s so damn stupid. I like to imagine those people at the doctor in the waiting room yelling “YOU DONT HAVE CANCER YOU DUMBASS, IVE NEVER HAD CANCER SO YOURE JUST MAKING IT UP”
@@Videaprojaekt No, it's not bad to like a game if it works for you and you like it. Personally I've chosen to not knowingly support software products that come with such anti-user features, and while I'd love for everyone to consider the same, I'm not going to blame anyone for choosing otherwise - and I most certainly wouldn't blame anyone for buying such software without even knowing about it having anti-user features.
Enjoy the game, you're not doing anything wrong. And if you ever get bitten by "always online" preventing your access to a game you've bought and there exist a cracked version that works offline, I'll consider it to be completely fair to get that version - however you should take into account the risk of running into other kinds of malware doing so. You've bought the game, so IMHO that gives you every right ;)
@@DisDatK9 I actually remember something very close to your cancer example. Back in the late 90's (and my late-teens), on the internet newsgroups there were sometimes arguments about whether smoking tobacco causes cancer or not; and while the facts were well established even back then, there were always some people whose contribution to the discussion was pretty much just that.
I wouldn't be that surprised if this wasn't still occurring somewhere - as said, the facts were well known already back then and people still believe in outrageously wrong things :p
"I don"t know what your problem is, it works for me"
is the equivalent of:
"I"m not hungry, so starving children aren't a problem"
to be fair. too many technical difficulties are hard to pin point between provider and consumer. especially when PC hardware composition CAN be a factor. i dont want to, or can defend the game on a technical level because i too have seen lots of bugs and a couple connection problems. but to completely rule out problems on the user side, doesnt work 100% of the time.
@@bagrym That still doesn't excuse the "got mine, fuck you" attitude of these kind of people.
@@bagrym clearly the video is focusing on the problems that are Not user error but problems on the publishers end
@@bagrym he showed a playstation crash in the video, right? a console is a console is a console, there is no variation between my ps5 and my buddy's ps5, or our other buddy's ps5
edit: ps5? dude i ain't got one of those! we all have ps4s, man that was a weird typo
Except this isn't lifesaving food. It's a game that INTERESTED consumers put their money into, well knowing what they choose to do their money. If you don't like the food, there's plenty of other 'food' to choose from. Yeah, mistakes all on you if you got duped. And if you don't enjoy it, don't try to tear it down for the people who are enjoying it. Maybe try making a pointed critique at the developers if you do care about the game. If not, just walk away. All you are bringing to the table is toxicity.
We keep getting broken games at release because people keep excusing the games being released in such a bad state even with delays.
Love how ZipTie Warrior comes in and immediately proves your point. Don't you just love braindead Gamers™?
@@ziptiewarrior2266 they also have considerably larger dev teams who are there to iron out those issues, so not exactly a good point. Don't charge $60 for a product that doesn't fucking work. How hard is that to understand?
@@bS0up so I can’t sell a blown up car for the same price of a new car not blown up? Shouldn’t I just be required to be honest about the car and if someone buys it, it’s on them?
@@ziptiewarrior2266 Lmao, dude! This is hilarious. These people think you're serious
I feel like a Sterling Rules Match is just gonna be taking turns beating up Bobby Kotick tied to a stake?
Sounds like a party 🎉
I just have to say, I still can't get over the phrase "non-binary finery," and have absolutely stolen it to describe my clothing intentions.
Why have a personality when you can have a preference eh....
To be honest, there's almost no reason left to claim pirating triple A titles is bad.
I agree with everything in this comment except "almost".
@@23Scadu it's a prudential one, I'm not confident enough in myself to think I thought of every possibility.
@@23Scadu As with anything else, there are exceptions. The Witcher 3, for one. Also, I can't think of a single incident where Nintendo have messed up a release. Like Jim Sterling once said: "Nintendo exist within their own little bubble where games are still good."
@@Aewon84 That's fair, but Nintendo will frequently make their games impossible to attain (looks pointedly at 3d allstars) so it's up to user discretion imo.
@@Aewon84 I'd say it could be argued that, at the time of TW3's release, CDPR weren't the big developer or publisher that they became because of it's release. Therefore they didn't fit into the AAA category, meaning the 'piracy is good' thing wouldn't apply. As in, it shouldn't be pirated.
Over time, Jim coming out has only made me happier and happier as they become their best self. Years ago, I sent them an email thanking them for being so openly, unabashedly LGBTQ+ in a world that didn't make me feel understood (as someone who, at the time, was a closeted bisexual in a polyamorous relationship). I'm pansexual now, and while I think my family is still processing that, I'm openly poly, because they met my partners and saw me so happy and healthy that their understanding clicked right away, something I never thought I'd be able to get them to understand. Jim's content, to that end, feels like home to me, and I hope they keep making content they're passionate about for a long time.
And let's not forget. Being an "always online" game, you've arguably been getting a good glimpse of what trying to play this game in over 10 years will probably look like after the servers are shut down... maybe unless they have some switch they can flip that'll let people play without needing to connect to a server when they're ready to drop support, but of course, if they have something like that, that just makes your situation that much more unforgivable, doesn't it?
"Why do publishers have higher standards for you the customer than you have for the products you spend your money on?"
- James Stephanie Sterling, 2021
A bloody good question!!
Because they only want money, and most people just wanna play games to kill some time no matter how shit it is
Because we've been trained to eat up Hype and FOMO and turn into obsessed, needy emotional masochists with little to no remaining agency in the face of the next overpriced crAptAculAr bland-'em-up?
@@hazukichanx408 bruh even if you're kinda harsh, that's how I secretly see gamers who were born into this.
Gotta admit I've had my fair share of microtransactions and the like, but I can't imagine someone who sees such a thing as the norm.
Someone who'd believe limited or timed products on a virtual platform have any sort of legitimacy.
@@ungetabe It's a profitable scam - sell overpriced digital goods in a virtual world, then when the sales start faltering, just shut down the servers before the upkeep costs add up too much. Call it "sunsetting" the game, thank everyone for their support, act like it's all cool and natural and not at all a scam. Shame people accept it; even basic critical thinking is definitely undervalued and underrepresented in our society...
@@hazukichanx408 It's not even a scam, it's all in the terms and conditions, we don't own anything. But they know we don't read those, just like they know how to prey on that endorphine rush we get when buying new content we regret a minute after.
Also on your last point, critical thought in itself is not undervalued, on the contrary. It's just that what passes for critical thought is a mix of contrarian pseudopsychology wielded by people who take things at face value.
Critical thought nowadays is synonymous of '' bullshit I make up to avoid being wrong '' while it is supposed to be a barrier against our own ignorance.
Look at the people who splurge on microtransactions, when criticized for their behavior, they'll make up reasons, try to project or make it seem like YOU have an issue with a normal thing without ever asking themselves '' maybe I'm just not as much in control as I think I am ? ''.
Sorry for the tangent but you correlating abusive practices like these with a lack of critical thought really resonnates with things that have been brewing in my mind for a long time. And being faced with people who confuse criticism with personnal attacks makes it hard to discuss such matters when we all are guilty of falling to said practices from time to time.
Me (trying to) play Outriders:
"Work -- damn it! -- work -- damn it! -- work -- damn it! -- ah, what the hell!? -- work -- damn it! -- work -- damn it! -- work -- damn it! -- ah, there we go... fuck it, I'm going to bed."
Ah, people defending a game that's in such an awful state by personally attacking reviewers.
Must be nice to be a mindless attack dog for a corporation that would drain your blood for cash.
Only for them to complain that you have no blood left for them to sell and proceed to sell off every other body part and organ you have.
Somehow the worst part of that crisps ad was when the two potatoes knocked against each other and looked like horrible little exposed testicles.
y u put that image in my head
Two elderly Iranian women are shopping together in a supermarket. One turns to the other and says "These potatoes remind me of my husband's testicles."
"That big?" says the other.
"That dirty."
(Courtesy of Jackie 'The Joke Man' Martling)
D:
I swear those old cursed adverts are going to steal my soul.
Can't give the game a bad review, if you can't play the game. Big Brain Moment
Release review is basically this if this is what's happening the majority of the time. At least BF4 was good despite being God awful at launch.
Thank you for your service of going through this shit so the rest of us, who make companies wait for reviews before giving our money, don't have to. Your sacrificial staring into the login screen for 60 dollars shall be remembered.
Its really depressing that none of my friends watch you. None of them see a problem with this OR they see a problem but still buy anyway. Hopefully I'll get through to them one day
It's odd though, because Skill Up and Henry over at Pretty Good Gaming (his Outriders rant on their most recent podcast is something to behold) have had similar experiences... It's almost as though these things DO happen, and it's not all made up by Jim Stephanie... 🤔
Angry Joe was having the same problems.
@@unclebrat Alex from AngryJoeShow had a great speech about gamers who excuse unfinished game. Summarizes Jim's rant perfectly.
@@akmal94ibrahim it truly was beautiful
Did Jim change their name?
@@MarkoArillius yes. James Stephanie Sterling. Jim is still used for the Jimquisition, though.
After that intro I was sad to realize that Commander Sterling will never be a villain to Adam West’s Batman.
Oh god... someone with mad skills ought to get on that as soon as possible, it'd be glorious.
One of the real joys of Jim Sterling videos, beyond the content itself, is reading the often very lucid and intelligent debates going on down in the comments mere minutes after the video has gone up.
'Non-Binary Finery' That people, is some Ric Flair levels of smack talk
That intro is honestly up there with some of the best self-intros I've ever heard.
That's good. That's real good.
I got some Mick Foley dude love talking to Trips & China the night Cactus Jack entered MSG for the first time.
Woooooo
Fun Ric Flair fact: He was abducted by Georgia Tann, infamous inventor of modern adoption and baby thief\murderer.
“But Jim! Why aren’t you reviewing *my* experience with Outriders?!”
ORORORORO!!! I spend half of my day sleeping! ORORORO!!! Then I sometimes get up and tell you that I am a famous content creatorORORORORO!!! Please don't sleep while driving, dear james
@@AxxLAfriku ?
@@AxxLAfriku are you okay?
@@desertfish74 probably not xD
Jim should stop playing video games (does he play though?) and start losing some weight. The dude is pushing close to 300lbs again.
I just want that Smith's Crisps creepypasta edit as a standalone video. Shit was creepier than anything TrIpLe AaA could ever make.
Imagine buying a cold drink after a long run and finding out you can't open the bottle for a month. Same energy.
I wish I could get one. Probably half of my playtime was waiting for servers to let me in or hard crashing
Yup.
The hard crashes...just started for me Yesterday. The worst part is I'm enjoying the combat and modding. My heart breaks.
I played it through Game Pass, and wish I could get the time back. I had so many issues, and even when I got in it was just kinda......meh.
Same, I just gave up on this pos. I tried getting a refund the day after it came out. The third party site green man gaming wouldn't give me one. Their reasoning for refusing a refund, was that square wasn't mass refunding it.
@@kilowogg12 That's... Not how personal refunds work. How is that legal?
Well done, you've successfully conditioned me to fear potatoes
Interesting strategy, not letting paying customers play your game.
I mean if it works, they won't even have to make a game anymore. Just sell a nice "Connection to server failed" screen for $60.
@@LordShrub No spoilers please, no matter how obvious they are!
Well i mean: If the customer can't play the game they can't find bugs and you won't have to fix those bugs.
It doesn't even have to be a finished game if they can't play it.
People can't say your game is shit if they can't actually play it
But its on gamepass so its totally okay.
Jim that crisps TV spot is making me very unnerved
Have so e Smith crisps. They're wonderful.😶
This should be a 20 minute rant on how Game Pass saved Jim $70
Maybe it’s just me but when I hear “Pangalactic,” I expect it to be immediately followed up by “Gargleblaster.”
You know, Zaphod inventing that makes me wonder if he's an in-universe troll.
Hits you like a lemon wrapped around a gold brick
Grab a towel, check your guide, and get your thumb out, its time to roll.
I wonder how many of these people who are saying "you have to give them TIME!" also demand to see a manager when that cheeseburger they ordered thirty seconds ago isn't already in their hands.
To those people I say “I’ll give them time. What I won’t give them is money, not until they’ve solved the problems the time is FOR.”
@@RobertJW They are the same exact thing thought. Time is NOT money but money is the DENOMINTION of Time.
My Econ teacher tried and failed to hammer into our-my- head that Money is simply Opportunity Cost. I remembered that, but didn't UNDERSTAND it until years later. Most never due.
@Delphineas While you are correct, that is a useless observation in this case. It is true that whether the game is bought broken on launch or after it's been fixed, the same amount of money and time must be expended in order to have a playable game. The opportunity cost is, however, significantly higher if you buy the game on launch, given that you then do not have access to either the ware you purchased or the money you spent on it, which is the point the poster you replied to is making. Opportunity cost is not a static value, and you can't treat it as such.
"When am I gonna stop being seen as unreasonable?"
When you bow down and offer no critical thought whatsoever and blindly accept whatever corporate says. After all, any person with a measure of reason should have seen that nothing is gonna change and get better. Join the corporate sycophancy program! /sarcasm
Keep up the good work, Stephanie, in all you non-binary finery
That game about the deaf dude,
that Metal Gear Solid rip-off,
the Avengers game,
Balamb World or whatever its called
and now Outriders...
(all just off the top of my head, there must be more)
*WTF is going on at SQEX?!?!* Why are they pumping out this trash?! Who is making these games?!?!
@Withnail Deus Ex deserved better. MD ruled and that series needs more games
SQEX lol
Ahh man, this very issue sure takes me back...
**Remembers the day when Assassin's Creed 2 was released, purchased a PHYSICAL disk, and then cried myself to sleep because it couldn't connect to servers day one.**
Oh speaking of which, I should play that again, on my 360, with the physical media. Something I will always be able to play so long as the hardware holds up.
I remember that, and the news of all the pirated copies that worked fine because they didn't phone home. Also the inability to save without a connection. Why was that even a thing? Why would you need to save your single player game to a cloud server somewhere when you have a perfectly good storage device in your PC? Having the option to make a copy to a server is nice for if you uninstall it then install it again in the future, but the ONLY way to save a SINGLE PLAYER game is to a server? Stupid.
I remember when you bought a game you had THE game. No patches, no updates, no installing up to hours to read a disc. Just pop it in and unlock all the goodies that were not unlocked but were still included as incentive to keep playing. No dlc or microtransactions. I miss those days.
“Non-binary finery” was pretty great. The whole intro was good, but I really like the “finery” bit
I was wondering if it was a reference to the electronic artist.
I'm wondering how long it is until pirate's hack the game to remove the online requirement for single player...
Edit: just checked and there's one out already :)
Now that's punk
that err was fast
YAR HAR FIDDLE DI DEE~
The internet is now a hero for that.
Never doubt the efficiency and dedication of pirates, lol.
Thank you for reminding us of Snickers' *_real_* name.
Believe me, dude, you ain't missing much.
tbh the state of gaming has led me to GO OUTSIDE
Wow desperate measures! Especially these days.
Before the pandemic I switched to tabletop games. People are nicer, even strangers at the local FLGS or boardgame cafe. Games are better designed too, and you hardly ever get disconnected from the server when you are busy stacking wooden animals or something while waiting for your turn.
you have my deepest condolences
@@BlindErephon same here. I mean I've always been into tabletop gaming but in the past year I've gotten a lot more into them to the point I've stopped playing video games entirely.
I instead enjoy relaxing and painting miniature dragons, heroes, and the occasional superhuman or robot skeleton.
touch the grass, absorb the sunlight, *become one with nature*
I'm just loving the idea of someone who didn't grow up with it trying to even begin to comprehend the Smiths crisp ad and it pleases me
"Server issues happen with every game launch."
Pirating happens with every game launch, too. Guess the companies just need to deal with it then.
"Just be patient please and we might get around to paying for it"
Tbf, the more time goes on, the less badly I feel about any IP pirating since most industries are just about fleecing the consumer as much as possible and not about delivering a quality product.
"Give it time"
We did. All that time before the game released when they were making it. Should have spent more time making it work.
God, if I had a nickel for every time someone told me that I didn’t experience what I experienced, I’d be one rich bastard. It’s disturbing how many people believe that if they haven’t personally experienced something then that means no one else does and anyone with a different experience is a liar.
Ok..can we all agree on never buying a looter shooter that isn't borderlands? Cause at this rate, it's definitely gonna be a lousy live service greed fest!
And to side eye any NEW borderlands until we know it works and isn't abusive in its production
This is what bothers me. Its been 12 years since Borderlands started, how the hell no game has taken what Borderlands has done and improved on it without any live service bullshit is baffling. Although, I am a huge Borderlands fan so I am biased.
Who are these foolish people who are unsubscribing from this very relevant gaming content?
Cowards, tbh
The comments section has got a lot more pleasant, though. 😊👍
The small blue packets of salt inside Smith's Crisps were the first 0 day DLC
The idea of “giving the game time” is okay for delaying the game but once it’s released then it’s time up. If Nintendo delay Metroid for however long they need fine but if CD Projekt RED release Cyberpunk 2077 when it’s broken and causing seizures then it can fuck off forever.
Jim: I had server issues.
YoU aRe JuSt BiAsEd!
Zero punctuation: I had server issues.
THE LORD HAS SPOKEN.
I sometimes think it's weird Zero Punctuation is still around. I used to watch him, Unskippables, and Unforgotten Realms on Escapist and before I migrated to UA-cam, I didn't realize how big he'd gotten on here. I don't know anyone that visits the Escapist anymore, not even me.
Almost like the real reason they went Jim wasn’t his personal experience but what else could it be I’m sure the issue they actually send him hate is not a binary one perhaps even a Non-Binary one.... but I can’t imagine Gamers (trademark) hating on the LGBT+ community
@@Crystal_Dylan meh a certain section of "gamers" have had it out for Jim for years
@@Crystal_Dylan I know, right? Those loveable tykes who've a rock-solid reputation for rational thought, tolerant world-views and an enviable ability to keep everything in perspective... They must have hit the unsub button by accident.
It's weird though... Have you noticed how the comment section here has gotten a bit...nicer, recently? Probably my imagination... 🤔
@@JimJamTheAdmin ZP is literally the only thing I give a shit about that still is on the Escapist, and I forget it exists every so often. After Loading Ready Run gave up on it, I figured it was mostly time to stop visiting their shitty website.
Cmon Sterling, a game director just kindly asked us to buy games at full price
"Outriders was released on April bloody first."
Yep. An April Fool's joke on consumers that just keeps going as people start stanning it.
I bet Square Enix is still mad about that Quiet Man review
😅😅😅
Haven’t heard them so far...
and I'm still mad about the quiet man existing
I'm still waiting for an explanation as to how that game happened
I LOVE COMMANDER STERLING INTRO! IT PUMPS ME UP EVERY TIME!
For those curious, the song playing at @0:20, the band is Bear Ghost and absolutely worth checking out.
Nice Catch! I auditioned to be their drummer years ago. We didn’t really fit together.
Good lads though.
See em every once in a while here in AZ.
Gods I love the Starkiller theme. Every show that starts with it makes me inordinately happy.
Any jimquisition that starts with ads is gonna be a good one
Such a shame that we can't trust companies to put out a polished product these days
If a company makes enough money to pay for a massive advertisement campaign none of the money actually went into the video game.
Lol you must not buy shit often.
@@ziptiewarrior2266 switched to indie titles that are already out since you get better quality for less
Ironic that it's the small developers that produce better games than self titled "AAA" game studios. In pretty much every aspect except graphics. AAA studios still only know how to make shooters at this point, two decades after CoD hype.
@@Earthium that's the thing with every AAA game it is just realistic graphics that age whereas with indie titles they have got an art style that doesn't age as badly compared to realistic graphics
For how fantastically gaudy Sterdust is, I feel like Bear Ghost was a very fine accompaniment indeed
Menuriders: When you can't escape the menu. Enjoy.
Not only do I have a problem getting in. They wiped my character, and corrupted the file so it's just lost fodder
You deserve a refund. Screw everyone whose upset at you for that
I want a refund, but I’m also the same fool who preordered it after liking the demo
In fact: Noone should be judged for demanding a refund for anything for any (legitimate) reason.
No ones upset that he wants a refund. He’s legally allowed to get it unless it played past the time he agreed too.
We dislike how he knew the game was buggy, knew the game was always online.. yet still is crying about the bugs and online part.
It’s like you buying a shity car and demanding the car manufacturer make a better car. No, go buy the car you want and stop being a bad consumer.
@@ziptiewarrior2266 last time I checked you aren't allowed to sell defective cars
@@ziptiewarrior2266 if the demo was buggy and the game is "always online" there should be no expectation to believe that upon full release the game will still be extremely buggy (part of the point of an early release USED TO BE to gather large-scale player data, identify bugs, and fix them before a final release) and certainly there should absolutely be an expectation that connection to the game servers should be possible. You literally have no reason to be upset with THEM for being upset with the state of a game THEY can't play. (Pronouns, pal!)
That intro was what Stars are made of. Thank god for Sterling.
The ads just keep improving.
Comes up Peanuts every time!
The smiths crisps was cursed af
God i love the stock photos and video clips (its more a love/hate relationship), its always a treat to see what the editor chooses next.
the commercial shorts deserve their own dedicated channel at this point xD they are really awesome
From what my discord group has been saying, it sounds like even if you COULD play it, it'd be exactly what you'd expect: a poorly executed, middle of the road live service riddled with bugs. "This game's got potential to be good in a year once they iron out all the bugs" was said not 3 hours ago. Not a great look. "It'll be good in a year" means it probably won't be around in a year.
People said the same thing about Anthem, and look how that turned out.
@@owenwells7692 which part? Anthem is dead.
@@stevenheibner my point exactly.
Yeah, you deserve a refund.
There is no doubt in my mind.
Server issues such as you've described are one of the reasons I tend to avoid "Always Online" games as a rule, because it's a bloody gamble when there are plenty of genuinely amazing games that don't have that questionable requirement.
Keep up the good work.
I just shed a tear when I saw dungeon keeper I had tried to block that from my mind
I feel for ya
'pats your shoulder'
I still can't get over the fact that I got a Sims 3 neighborhood expansion in 2013 and it still won't work due to EA's shitty anti theft programs making it unplayable out of the box.
you could always find it on the high seas mate. Prirating EA is praxis.
@@tesso.6193 Totally lol
There is no reason to legally purchase the Sims 3. Or the Sims 4 for that matter.
I love the Sims 3 but I'll be damned if I'm spending more than I pay a month in rent to have the full game.