1969 Hurst Olds vs 1969 Buick GS 400 - STOCK DRAG RACE
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- Опубліковано 29 сер 2024
- 1969 Hurst/Olds 455 vs 1969 Buick GS 400 (Pure Stock Muscle Car Drag Race)
The battle of 1969. First, you have a 1969 Hurst Olds packed with 455 cubic inches of Lansing, Michigan power. Then you have a car that's more of the, "fast with class" variety, that being a 1969 Buick GS 400. Automatic transmission in both cars.
Remember, both cars participate in the Pure Stock Muscle Car Drag Race series, so please check out their website: www.psmcdr.com
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The rules for PSMCDR are listed below:
For 1955 to 1979 musclecars built in United States and Canadian assembly plants with a minimum warranty of 12 months and 12,000 miles.
Any car running faster than 11.50 will be disqualified and will not have a qualifying time recorded.
Any convertible running faster then 13.50 will be disqualified and will not have a qualifying time recorded.
Casting numbers must be correct for the year and horsepower claimed including intake manifold, heads, and exhaust manifolds. Blocks do not have to be "numbers matching," but they must be the correct displacement. Overbores up to .070" are allowed. Stock cranks only.
All Engines - 1.5 extra points allowed over advertised.
The camshaft must be correct for the year, model, and horsepower claimed for the type of lifter (hydraulic or solid). Roller cams NOT allowed.
The valve train must be factory stock for the year, make, and horsepower claimed.
The ignition system must be stock, including the distributor, cap, coil, and wires. Points may be replaced with any electronic conversion that fits under the stock distributor cap.
The carburetor must be correct for the year, make, and horsepower claimed. Jetting and metering changes are permitted. THE CHOKE ASSEMBLY MUST BE IN PLACE AND FUNCTIONAL!
Cast-iron exhaust manifolds are mandatory and must be correct for the year, model, and horsepower claimed. Internal modifications to the exhaust manifolds are NOT allowed. Under no circumstances will headers be allowed, including those cars that came with headers delivered in the trunk. Pipes must be routed as they were originally for the year, make, model, and engine combination. Mufflers must be stock looking in design, that is, oval in shape. No glasspacks or straight pipes allowed unless installed as original equipment. Maximum muffler inlet and outlet size is 2.5 inches. X & H pipes allowed.
The radiator must be correct for the year, make, model, and horsepower claimed. No lightweight, aluminum radiators allowed.
The camshaft must be correct for the year, model, and horsepower claimed for the type of lifter (hydraulic or solid). Roller cams NOT allowed. Duration at .050" lobe lift must be within 1% of factory specs. Lift at the valve must be within 2% of factory specs. Maximum stall limited to 2200 rpm.
The transmission must be correct for year, make, model and engine of the car. 3-speed manuals may be upgraded to the correct 4-speed if originally available.
The rear axle must be of the same manufacturer as the car. Any gear ratio is allowed.
Reproduction tires or radial tires only.You are allowed to run tires one size over stock.
Factory wheels only.
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Great match this week! I’d be happy with either car! 👍
Hurst Olds severely in need of a tune up... missing 10 - 15 MPH !!!
@@buzzwaldron6195 - Or actually he backed off the pedal and just stayed ahead of the much weaker Buick... this race should have included the Buick GS Stage 1...
2 of my favorite GM Muscle Cars...
I really like both of these as well! 👍
Never underestimate a 69 or 70 Hurst Olds or 4-4-2 they are torque monsters
Wish we had a true 70 hurst olds. Instesd issue with either demmer who modified them or hurst and we got the w45 aka Rallye 350 instead. Cool in its own right. A wannabe w31 with the little less potent L74 engine. Great cars but wish they offered them in Rallye red/hugger orange also and maybe 1 more “mopar term high impact color”
And we got the 70 pace car. I guess once the 455 ban in a bodies was lifted no need to have a true hurst anymore till I think 72 but they came in the not doing pretty supreme/notch back /vert body style only
69 hurst olds one of the sexiest cars ever made
The olds 455 was a stout engine even in stock form.
@@KevinMiller-lh9ur very popular back in the day and that engine was responsible for keeping Firestone and Bridgestone in business
Normally, if it looks like a sleeper, I say pick the sleeper, but those Olds' always run strong!
both great, but I’d be interested to see the outcome if the Buick had slightly more aggressive gears
@@CarsAndZebras Great point!
Has to be the SLOWEST Hurst Olds in the valley! Or is this 'bracket racing' and he let off?
Two awesome classics! Olds definitely got around that 400 cubic inch ban to great effect! The '68-69 GS were super cool, and underrated.....great race!
the Hurst Olds is definitely a cool story! 😎
Grrrrrrreat drag race
Can’t thank you enough for brining us these so cool races.
Thx
Frank
thanks again for watching! 👍
i like the olds for the win..
I think most people would pick the Olds, but still a close one! 😎
We live is some weird times. I took my daily driver 2018' Buick Regal Sportback (4 door sedan ) Front Wheel Drive 4-banger with little turbo to the strip right after I bought it ( so 1000 % factory stock ) with spare tire and all, and other stuff in the trunk. It ran back to back 14.3 @ 96 mph (14.36 @ 96.19 mph & 14.39 @ 96.27 mpg ). I weighed at the time about 250 lbs. With me in the car it tipped the scales at 3,757 lbs. On a decent summer day driving on the highway around 60-65 mph It will sip 39 -41 mpg ! and in the city during rush hour she'll drink 22 to 24 mpg.
When I test drove her she had 5 miles on the odometer. Sales dude let me and me brother go on our own and I drove her trying to break her to death. She took it like a champ going up/down hills, twisties and me intentionally bouncing on the rev limiter all the time !!! Boy how times have changed. But I'd trade her for a 67 Buick 400 any day. Or a 72 Dart Swinger, or a 70 Super Bee or 74 Trans AM 455 SD (white with blue stripes 😁), and a few others like 65-67 GOAT, 65-67 Chevelle, 65-67 Chevy II / Nova or 69 maro.
Love the styling of the 68&69 skylark. I figured the olds would win, it wasn't the ass kicking I was expecting!
Id say a dead even match if it's a 69 HO vs 70 GSX 455 Stage I...
Or a 70 GSX 455 Stage I vs 70 442 W30 455...
Thomas Barnard so is a tied what about a 1970 boss 429 or a 1970 Shelby gt500 or a 1971 boss 351 vs a 1970 Buick gsx 455 stage 2 vs a 1969 Oldsmobile hurst which will win
Well IMO it would depend on a lot of factors..
midnitesquirldog1 what about the rare 1970 boss 429 or a 1971 boss 351 that could make 13s and a 1970 Shelby gt500 still no competition to the Buick even a Oldsmobile hurst
That buick hung on pretty good, despite giving away 55 Cubic inches. Two really nice cars
If the Buick 400 had been the Stage 1 it would have had better valves, cam and such and been a little faster.
But that Olds 455 was put together well. Both great cars for sure.
Awe, that 442 must have been designed by God himself. What a beautiful car❤, well both of them are but that 442 is something else!
The 68' and 69' Hurst Olds are definitely an under rated muscle car of the era!
Love the little clips in between it's funny😂 my dad even gets a kick out of your videos another great video!
69 Hurst Olds my dream car. Would be nice if my 69 442's would grow up to be HO's Nice match
I always liked the silver/black scheme of ‘68.... but they are way too expensive!
Easy to mod 442 into Hurst power and more...
When it comes to automotive royalty I am a purist and would prefer to have an original
@@robertcash2975 - Original engine could always be swapped back in... these cars were made to be fast, not pure...
Olds came out of the gate fast but the Buick surprisingly started picking up towards the end of the 1/4
Hurst Olds: What a classy muscle car! Something that was brought to my attention decades ago is that these Hurst Olds had one of the more efficient hood scoop designs due to it's forward location on the hood, which was also a feature on the Firebird Formula 400s and 68 Shelby GTs.
Both are good looking and fairly comparable.
Had they both been running the same gears I think the Buick may have flipped the outcome.
As I predicted... No Replacement for Displacement...
I love those Hurst olds
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My grandfather always had Oldsmobile , good cars , the Buick was nice , think the xtra cubic inch helped ! I drove my grandfathers 72 cutlass supreme 350 rocket & it was smooth & fast for a 4 door ! Miss those days.
1:53 the 400 on the hood, looks just like 400 on my Pontiac Firebird 🔥.
Thanks for this episode. I like the Buick better, plus the Hurst Olds is really a tuner car, it wasn't factory stock by a long shot. Oh, and then there is the gearing, I wouldn't want to take a long trip with 3.91:1 gearing.
We had a 69 Hurst/Olds at our body shop when I was young. I remember knowing what our 71 Formula 400 hood looked like and that Olds hood was gnarly.
I had a 69 Hurst Olds, so sad when is was stolen back in the 70's. I still have my 1970 Trans Am which is also a blast to drive, but my wife's CT6-V turns mid twelves and spanks them all. Technology has come so far, these are some of the kings of the time. It took a different guy to run Buick Olds and Pontiac's like my friends and I. We love the Chevy's but you have to a bit warped to love the B-O-P
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C'mon man, who didn't know the Olds was going to win!
No matter what, drag racing is faaar out!!!
If the Buick had 3.64 gearing would have been closer despite giving up 55 cubes !
Love both those cars!
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If the Buick had a 455, it would win for sure!
Always LOVED that body line on the 69 Buick GS with those hood scoops....for some reason the 68 looked a bit awkward...it had a long air scoop by the cowl, and they usually had a heavy trim strip on that side swoop in the body line that made it look "underslung"...Had a ton of fun in a GS convertible that was my brothers car in my youth. She would roast that RH wheel to oblivion...yes 1 wheel wonder axle stock on GS400s! It was still an impressive car on the road, the mid-range power with 440 lbs of torque make for awesome 120MPH blasts....it WAS fun and felt fricking amazing as a rowdy youngster!
Actual pure-stock examples.
That Buick surprised the hell out of me!
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GREAT VIDEO
thanks for watching 👍
Ohh man that gs is gorgeous but i want that hurst olds
69 GS400 Stage 1 would be a better matchup to the Olds for options and price.
I expected that Hurst to be a little quicker. Similar to a GS stage 1.
Wonder how a Stage 1 400 would do.
Or the Stage 2 option.
Fantastic times and cars¡¡¡¡¡
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I picked a WEINER! Dr. Olds monstrosity AKA, Hurst Olds! I've seen too many 455's run & hide on the big end! We're happy, C&Z!
I like he Hurst Olds cars, very interesting history! 👍
The big block Buick engines weigh about the same as a small block Chevy engine. Some of the lightest big blocks.
No surprise here. Both ran great. Bigger engine and better drag gears = Olds win...
Love your vids thanks for this one
Imagine if olds bored the 425 out to 455 inches instead of stroking it to 455.
👍 100 % agree !
Beautiful olds. Didn't they make a GS 455 at some point in time? I thought I remembered seeing a few around..
The GS 455 definitely packs a bigger punch, but the 400 is still a great runner 👍
Cars And Zebras and rare 1970 Buick gsx 455 stage 2 vs this Oldsmobile hurst vs a 1970 boss 429 which will win
John Mcclane 70 Stage 1 smokes em all... except the Stage 2. A VERY limited offering
Keith Balke what even the rare boss 429 and Shelby gt500 and boss 351 and chevelle Baldwin motion and Oldsmobile hurst
The Buick 400 is actually better to do a performance build on than the 455. The 455 had thinwall block casting that really hurt their durability. They were really fast but they were known for cracked engine blocks...usually always in the lifter valleys. Seen it happen many times
To me the 1969 Hurst Olds ( Just the 1969 ) Is visually the best looking muscle car of that era, and I'm not an Oldsmobile guy.. In fact I've never owned an Oldsmobile and I've owned a lot of muscle cars through the 80's and 90's ( Too expensive now ) But i can appreciate how that paint scheme and the body lines of the Hurst Olds together makes the H/O pure perfection visually!
The Hurst was slow …. But it’s a awesome looking car …. My friends brother had one when I was a kid …. I loved that car
Odd that Hurst was predominately known for making manual transmission shifters & a Hurst Olds only came with an automatic.
Nice to see cars run the way they did when they were new. I was there. I know.
Very close race!! that Hurst Olds just looks NASTY!!
If the Buick had the 400 Stage 1 option and 3:64 gearing would of been different results dispite giving up 55 cubics.
The Hurst Olds was actually equivalent in price and trim level to the to Stage 1 Buick GS400. Which would spank the Olds in the 1/4 Mile.
I'll take the Olds. Let's see what happens
The video clips and jokes killed it for me. Couldn’t finish watching. When you just talk about the cars (that’s why we subscribe) it is awesome!
about time you unsubscribed! oh FYI.... no one cares
63MacGuy Shut up you dumb boomer. You’ve cried like a little bitch on the last 10 videos. THANK GOD YOU ARE LEAVING.
@@CarsAndZebras No one cares? :( Ok I Re-Subscribed. Your videos have been great!
That's one bad H/O😎💪
My 2003 Acura TL type-s would definitely give both of them trouble. My 2007 rdx with Hondata wouldn’t beat them but they wouldn’t win by much either! But I love both cars.
There is NO replacement for displacement---John Holmes
Why are these big blocks running 14s and other big blocks on pure stock drags are running 11-12s????
The Olds is just a better looking car
That Buick was super cool in Red/White though
Be nice to see both
'70 H/O & '70 Stage-1
Did not have a H/O in 1970
Saw that Hurst Olds 455 in the subject, and knew I'd better watch. I suspected the Olds would take it, but the Buick really wasn't far behind. Thumb up once again. Why are the bleachers so empty? When I was racing in the 70's & 80's they were usually packed. Are kids now days losing interest?
I thought the HO would run faster that that but still not bad! Sounded like low revs when it shifted into 3rd but with all that torque 🤷♂️ loved the air horns for the Buick’s # 😂
Hey!! Love the vids. I've got a '67 Firebird 400. Would sure be cool to see them pit a '67 Camaro 396 against a '67 FBird 400. 'Birds WAY got it beat in mean machine styling alone. Can never figure out why a 67-68 Camaro has a much higher market value so it's gotta be much faster right? (?)........ I confess........ I've got a 350 hood on mine, switched a '67 Camaro RPM gauge into the fuel dash pod and installed a '67 Camaro console mounted 3 pod gauge ( I think a '67 'Bird only came with Temp., Alt & Oil idiot lights & possibly the biggest dash gas gauge ever). I never did like that hood RPM eyesore opposing the hood scoops & the lack of gauges so there's that ONE Camaro plus I'll concede. Stats show them both around 14.4 sec @ 100.0 mph.
Well no wonder the Olds won. More HP more torque it's a 455 vs 400 for Buick. The Buick was close anyway on the strip..only 2 plus seconds behind.
Sometimes short gears (with an engine with strong low end torque) can hurt 1/4 times.
My dad had a hurst olds when I was little I would sit in it pretending to drive it
Goodday Mr C & Z
I put the house on the Oldsmobile, I really thought it would do a low 13's with all that HP & Torque.
So you like your woman with curves, no shortage of those type of woman in your country & mine.
I was hoping the best of 3 was it a time trial.
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yes, just a time trial for this one. I’m trying to use up some of my leftover footage 👍
@@CarsAndZebras
Don't tell me you are running out of footage.
Just found out my favorite magazine
" Muscle Car Review " has gone out of publication.
It's a dark time for us muscle car lovers I can't handle another shock to the system.
Stuff the virus this is more important.
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@@louiskats5116 - nah, I think I’ve got enough for about 50 or 60 videos right now. Two events coming up in May as well
@@CarsAndZebras
That is awesome, Mr C & Z you saved the day again ☺
Imagine a HURST BUICK
‘69 Buick GS for the winning.
IF you banking $5,000 to $10,000 each video. Do You Give the owners a CUT%??🤔🤔
THEY worked very hard & spent $20,000 or $30,000 on each car.😷
Do seriously think that's how much money these videos make?
@@CarsAndZebras
Well tell us yhe CORRECT amount.
I'll tell u can't beat the old classics you dont see beer can metal and plastic on either one of those cars that all steel and tough metal and raw power under neath those hoods miss my 67 442 great runner u put th 400 with the right rear and u had a runner I loved when u stomped in that 442 u knew I was coming when that Rochester 4 bbl secondary kick in that was a roar not the noise u hear today with these so called muscle cars
I HAVE THIS ONE WITH A 70 455 MOTOR THAT IS NOT STOCK IT IS A SLEEPER.
GM fired a dud when they opted to keep Buick over Oldsmobile. Not taking away from the Buick performance line in anyway, but Oldsmobile just had "it".
Yes; Who would have EVER Thought that Pontiac and Olds would be the the divisions to get beheaded ??? General Motors ???
I would have been interested to see Olds right now throw their hat in the ring and create something to rival the mustang, camaro, challenger, etc.
@@CarsAndZebras I 100% agree with you. My dad had a Delmont Holiday coupe with the Rocket 455. It was a standard and my mom burned off three sets of rear tires and got 4 tickets learning how to drive the damn thing. I loved it. What a beast.
Buick overmatched in this case
Someone let car shift into high gear(direct) WAY TO SOON!. About 6:11 last race
Yeah, saw he had the Win and backed off... MPH was about 10 MPH low for a Hurst Olds...
My minivan could beat either of those cars.....
What's crazy is Olds own Quad 4 HO was quicker than either of these. So, there is a replacement for displacement.
well, if you threw a cold air intake on that minivan it’d probably beat any car on the road. those CAIs are good for at least 200 more hp 😎
Ya and I’m sure you’re mini van is much cooler
Sam Spade never said it's cooler, but a Sienna SE runs high 14s in the quarter. Higher traps than these.
Cars And Zebras the thing is, I'm not kidding. Oh, the minivan doesn't have a CAI nor does it have a tune. Just surprised these didn't run quicker . My old Quad 4 ( the Olds replacement for displacement) was quicker and faster than both of these. Just surprised, that's all. Don't be hating on the Quad 4.
Cars And Zebras He's not wrong. My Olds 442 Quad 4 ran easy low 14s, high 13s in quarter mile with 5 speed stick. You had to rev the crap out of them, but they were quick for 4 bangers. I as well was surprised that these cars weren't quicker in quarter mile.
The Olds has a 55 cubic inch advantage more torque more horsepower lower gears and basically the same body. Olds for the win It was over before the start.
@Model629 LOL yes My bad
@Model629 LOL yes
Enough of an advantage for you?
@@markbuchanan3694 LOL just like warfare you don't go for being equal. Complete domination was the goal. Buick returned the favor next year with the 455 stage 1 that took on all comers including the street Hemi.
@@johnkendall6962 the point being there is nothing to be crowing about with the disparity between these two muscle cars. I wonder about the caterwauling the olds guys would put up if the situation were reversed. No matter who has this much advantage , it proves very little. I wouldn't be too proud of my stage one beating up on a 350 Buick GS. I like to watch these races,but to say one is superior over another that is outgunned this much gets kind of old
I that hust olds would be a low to mid 13s
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Those are some fat bitches
I think they prefer to be called, “big boned.”
@@CarsAndZebras lol, or thikk
Slow starting for both of those cars they are 13s for sure
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Oldsmobile for the win, baby.
Who's your daddy????
The fart noises ruin it for me.
poor guy
Shitty
1:44 😆😂
Other great full throttle video. You were really full throttle on the dumbass humor with this one!🙄😖
My grandma Hyundai Elantra runs a 14:2 not bad for 128hp fwd that get 48 mpg
This Guy really needs to shut up,And STOP Talking through the Whole Video.
The jokes are terrible
I enjoy the cars but the jackass commentary ruins the video. And yes, l just hit mute.