Why isn't the Dutch Flag Orange?

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  • @modmaker7617
    @modmaker7617 5 років тому +1124

    Why Orange became Red on the modern flag?
    Bigger question: Why the light-blue became dark-blue in the modern flag?

    • @Meeam50w
      @Meeam50w 3 роки тому +84

      Luxemburg

    • @Mikey12396
      @Mikey12396 3 роки тому +20

      @@dababy3374 same shit.

    • @Rainbow11117
      @Rainbow11117 3 роки тому +16

      @@dababy3374 In Dutch Luxembourg called Luxemburg, but yeah same shit as the guy above me said.

    • @casadelosotte
      @casadelosotte 3 роки тому +50

      The light color was never an official color, they used different colors of blue until 1937 where the colors were officially defined and blue became Cobaltblue! Please stop guessing if you are not sure and use facts!

    • @arposkraft3616
      @arposkraft3616 3 роки тому +1

      no its always been kobalt-blue

  • @1sb3rg34
    @1sb3rg34 5 років тому +3140

    I like the orange one

    • @sickan6988
      @sickan6988 5 років тому +12

      Tobias Berg Norge?

    • @cinemacritic9571
      @cinemacritic9571 5 років тому +11

      håper du hadde en god 17.mai

    • @1sb3rg34
      @1sb3rg34 5 років тому +7

      @cinema critic
      det hadde jeg, håper du hadde det også :D
      Liker profil bilde ditt :D

    • @1sb3rg34
      @1sb3rg34 5 років тому +4

      Dunder Edjifs ja

    • @AFCA-vn9bl
      @AFCA-vn9bl 5 років тому +36

      Same

  • @jacobsocknesssucks5277
    @jacobsocknesssucks5277 5 років тому +3418

    0:20 “that flag clearly has an orange stripe”
    *zooms in on black box*
    I think your editor ragequit

    • @thearousedeunuch
      @thearousedeunuch 5 років тому +42

      You clearly know da wae of da editing, brudda.

    • @ShofLi
      @ShofLi 5 років тому +2

      I was thinking just that! XD

    • @thearousedeunuch
      @thearousedeunuch 5 років тому +4

      @@667halomaster I'll die eventually. Remind me to text you when I'm about to die.

    • @SirMrMilo
      @SirMrMilo 5 років тому +3

      Do you know da way to da toilet my brudda?

    • @thearousedeunuch
      @thearousedeunuch 5 років тому +3

      @@SirMrMilo Yes, I do. I'm using it right now, brudda.

  • @Zwansje
    @Zwansje 3 роки тому +112

    As a Dutch person you’re realy good in pronouncing Dutch’s words

    • @derekwinterdal6573
      @derekwinterdal6573 3 роки тому +9

      yes thank you, I was looking for a comment that said this. bc i noticed that too!! (i also speak Dutch)

    • @jens2049
      @jens2049 3 роки тому +1

      its literally perfect

    • @twdegr
      @twdegr 3 роки тому

      So Funny, and yes all we (Dutch) can hear is all the mistakes, In Dutch but surely this isn’t easy when trying to talk and sound as English as possible as you can. Anyone tried before? And listened to your own voice? I know it ffing hard.
      Whatever this guy is talking about who really cares what flag what color.
      This guy defo has problems pronouncing his Dutch words.

    • @WaddenSeaSiren
      @WaddenSeaSiren 3 роки тому +24

      @@twdegr this dude I'm pretty sure *is* Dutch. Ik kan een licht Nederlands accent in zn Engels horen. Daarnaast deelt hij veel Nederlandse dingen op zn facebookpagina.

    • @Bill_Gamesh
      @Bill_Gamesh 3 роки тому +14

      Isn't he Dutch?

  • @RedbadofFrisia
    @RedbadofFrisia 5 років тому +2332

    The original one looks way better, it's a real shame it got changed to a dime a dozen tricolour.

    • @nolebbers5911
      @nolebbers5911 5 років тому +54

      Redbad of Frisia we can still bring it back

    • @grubbybum3614
      @grubbybum3614 5 років тому +194

      Agreed. Time for a Dutch referendum to change it back to orange!

    • @KommentarSpaltenKrieger
      @KommentarSpaltenKrieger 5 років тому +71

      Orange and blue are natural allies in design. But red also works, although to a lesser extent.

    • @historywithhilbert
      @historywithhilbert  5 років тому +47

      Mar gjin pompeblêden :/

    • @Grofvolkoren
      @Grofvolkoren 5 років тому +92

      Part of the reason why the current Dutch flag looks like so many others is because the others took over parts of the Dutch flag design. And as stated in the video, the color orange is associated with the house of Orange. The house of Orange throughout history hasn't been a neutral or objective party. Not all of their actions are on the right side of history.

  • @Twisted_Logic
    @Twisted_Logic 3 роки тому +610

    Me, a colorblind person: Hmm... yes. These flags are made of flag.

    • @Whiskypapa
      @Whiskypapa 3 роки тому +19

      Maybe thats the real reason flags change? Bunch of colourblind folks in charge of printing flags and nobody bothered to correct em...

    • @albertkristmas59
      @albertkristmas59 3 роки тому +24

      Your profile pic is green

    • @kokonut.K
      @kokonut.K 3 роки тому +3

      @@albertkristmas59 no no it's purple :)

    • @joliespastoor75
      @joliespastoor75 3 роки тому +1

      Colourblind persons: orange into red?? Ooooohh, hahahaha, they made a mistake, purple into green 😂😂

    • @jeremiemonette
      @jeremiemonette 3 роки тому +1

      😂😂😂😂😂

  • @allmachtsdaggl5109
    @allmachtsdaggl5109 5 років тому +471

    i laughed much too hard because of the disc claymore

  • @craigridley9618
    @craigridley9618 3 роки тому +80

    The Dutch: “Well, i’m glad that’s all straightened out”
    Luxembourg enters the chat

  • @edwardrocca
    @edwardrocca 5 років тому +1303

    Can I just say how satisfying it is to hear someone speak both English and Dutch without sounding horrible in either hahaha, as an English-Dutch bilingual I am happy hahaha

    • @burtlangoustine1
      @burtlangoustine1 5 років тому +23

      Dutch sound cool and colourful when speakihg English. It's class.

    • @LB_die_Kaapie
      @LB_die_Kaapie 5 років тому +23

      Similar languages English and Dutch tbh

    • @gijsvanderlogt9652
      @gijsvanderlogt9652 5 років тому +3

      @@LB_die_Kaapie how are they similar?

    • @LB_die_Kaapie
      @LB_die_Kaapie 5 років тому +9

      @@gijsvanderlogt9652 they're intelligible

    • @mamamheus7751
      @mamamheus7751 5 років тому +26

      @@gijsvanderlogt9652 I've learned some Dutch, having learned German as a kid and clearly being a native English speaker (but I'm not English, I'm Welsh, just to confuse matters LOL). I've found Dutch easier than German for some reason. There are a lot of similarities in many Dutch words to both English and German - often they're sort of halfway between the two. Structurally as well as with the vocab, it's pretty close to English. Once you can read Dutch, guessing the meanings of new words isn't too hard. It's just that bit closer than German. (I know, I've been told not to compare Dutch and German. My Dutch aunty - who was one of my favourite ones - said it wouldn't go down well. She's one of the reasons that I decided to learn the language, though she passed some years ago.)
      I currently live in E Anglia (not too far from Harwich as the crow (seagull?) flies), which is the bit of England which sticks out into the North Sea just north of London, so I'm actually closer to you than to my home country! Should I ever decide to get a new passport (though I'm tempted to do it asap just so that I can have a European Union design on it LOL), my ambition is to pop over the sea and visit the Netherlands (yes, I know the difference between Holland and the Netherlands ;-))
      I still think I should learn a bit more of the language before I come over though. I don't want to be one of _those_ tourists who depend on the locals to speak English. Though most Dutch people I've met speak it better than many Brits I know. Sigh...
      HTH :-)

  • @erebousde
    @erebousde 3 роки тому +67

    0:07 is an absolute G E K O L O N I S E E R D moment

  • @computerinsurgent1204
    @computerinsurgent1204 5 років тому +494

    Actually, the Dutch flag of today is not the same as the Statenvlag. The difference is that the flag of today has a more darker blue. This came around the Napoleonic times. The blue became darker for the navy of the Batavian Republic. But in the Batavian flag there was also a small painting in the corner. When The Netherlands became the Kingdom of Holland, under rule of king Louis Bonaparte (brother of Napoleon Bonaparte), the flag became the same as the flag of today. Despite that the Orange family came back as a royal family, they kept the flag with darker blue.

    • @CorvinTheSwasian
      @CorvinTheSwasian 5 років тому +13

      Nice. Not sure but i think he actually mentioned this in his other video (why did the dutch flag change or sth).

    • @barnosho1611
      @barnosho1611 5 років тому +8

      Did you really take the tree from the Lebanese flag and put it on the Dutch flag?

    • @computerinsurgent1204
      @computerinsurgent1204 5 років тому +29

      @@barnosho1611 I mixed the 2 flags because I am half Lebanese and half Dutch.

    • @Legionarivss
      @Legionarivss 5 років тому +4

      The one at 14 minutes mark looks indeed more similar to the one Luxemburg uses today rather than the current Dutch flag.

    • @annekedebruyn7797
      @annekedebruyn7797 5 років тому +2

      The red and specifically blue had multiple variation dating before 1500s.
      I suppose that the exact color was based on what they had in that time period as there weren't as many countries having the pretty much the same flag with slightly altered colors.

  • @tjcassidy2694
    @tjcassidy2694 5 років тому +55

    The city flag of New York recalls the founding of Nieuw Amsterdam by the Dutch West Indies Company in 1626.

  • @warspite1995
    @warspite1995 5 років тому +671

    got my dutch national anthem in the first 15 seconds, video was liked.

    • @ariari4133
      @ariari4133 5 років тому +3

      Erg controversieel

  • @Chromadamsel
    @Chromadamsel 3 роки тому +15

    As a Dutch woman who absolutely had no idea what happened to that iconic orange flag, I wanna say thank you for filling me in! Great video!

    • @gailwaters814
      @gailwaters814 Рік тому +3

      The new Dutch flag looks horrible and it's hard to spot. The old bright orange and blue stood out and looked very striking and attractive and VERY unique. The new one is the most boring flag on the planet -- it doesn't stand out, but disappears in the background, just like "new" Dutch culture.

  • @scy3591
    @scy3591 5 років тому +366

    That is not at all how I imagined Hilbert to look like.

    • @frostyalaska6371
      @frostyalaska6371 5 років тому +24

      right damn brits never match their voice have you ever seen womble? Now thats a shocker

    • @historywithhilbert
      @historywithhilbert  5 років тому +155

      Yeah sorry to break it to you but I’m not actually a floating Anglo-Saxon helmet with shades on... :/

    • @azaz129
      @azaz129 5 років тому +10

      @@historywithhilbert You look like a young Colin Farrell.

    • @grubbybum3614
      @grubbybum3614 5 років тому +2

      @@historywithhilbert. You should have a look at which oil paints were invented when. If I remember correctly, Vermilion was the only red available? And I'm not even sure if the concept of true orange existed at the time, it may have been seen as a red tint...
      Again, been years since I read about oil paints.

    • @rasputingames3518
      @rasputingames3518 5 років тому +3

      Frosty Alaska Brit? Isn’t he Dutch?

  • @daan9094
    @daan9094 5 років тому +656

    *inhales*
    G E K O L O N I S E E R D

  • @jacquesdevos4846
    @jacquesdevos4846 5 років тому +164

    In South Africa we also used to say Oranje Blanje Blou for our previous flag which actually did contain the orange :)

    • @anthonysalgado5118
      @anthonysalgado5118 5 років тому +6

      Dit is n baaie mooi vlag.

    • @midnight9692
      @midnight9692 5 років тому +12

      Jammerte het ons plaas verloor te danke aan die... Niks gese nie, mens kan mos oor niks praat in die moderne tye nie. XD

    • @danielcobbins9050
      @danielcobbins9050 5 років тому +15

      I liked the old SA flag. One could see the history of the country in the different flags in the white stripe. UK, Transvaal, Orange Free State.

    • @ethanthom4977
      @ethanthom4977 5 років тому +2

      Ahh you also watch the Triggerd Afrikaans boi or Wilhelm petzer

    • @sz5336
      @sz5336 5 років тому +3

      @@VayN95 I understand it...and I am South German

  • @jurnelissen7261
    @jurnelissen7261 5 років тому +266

    Video about the netherlands: exists
    the dutch:
    G E K O L O N I S E E R D

  • @pizzakiep4157
    @pizzakiep4157 5 років тому +362

    Am I colour blind or is 7:56 clearly an orange colour while Hilbert says it's red?

    • @yeetus2754
      @yeetus2754 5 років тому +30

      I agree with you

    • @historywithhilbert
      @historywithhilbert  5 років тому +135

      I think I might be the colourblind one...

    • @truedarklander
      @truedarklander 5 років тому +8

      Princenvlag clearly to me

    • @TheWhiteTedyBear
      @TheWhiteTedyBear 5 років тому +14

      It might be red...I mean I think the cross flag is Saint George's Cross, which is supposed to be red, but appears orange. And since the dutch flag also appears orange, maybe it means that both are in fact red, but are discolored or something like that...maybe.

    • @EchoHeo
      @EchoHeo 5 років тому +5

      it's the upvote colour

  • @Sam-lj9vj
    @Sam-lj9vj 5 років тому +5

    One of the possible reasons I read online about the flag switching was that orange tends to fade when sailing, so it is badly recognizable. And lastly because back then it was supposedly very expensive to mix.

  • @creakychair9387
    @creakychair9387 5 років тому +851

    Orange flag is better.

    • @scottkrafft6830
      @scottkrafft6830 5 років тому +33

      Also South Africa had a version of that baller flag at one point; too bad they got rid of it because of the generic "it's racist!" argument. Just keep the flag, and show that countries can move on from racism. Which sounds better?:
      "We had apartheid, but we got rid of it and changed our flag because we want to erase our past."
      or
      "Sure, we had apartheid, but we changed. Now, by the strong will of the South African people, our flag represents freedom."

    • @creakychair9387
      @creakychair9387 5 років тому

      @@scottkrafft6830 ge mer mat och bättre flaga

    • @ghostofthelostcause2744
      @ghostofthelostcause2744 5 років тому +26

      @@scottkrafft6830 Apartheid South Africa's flag was made to represent the Afrikaners and Anglos, the Bantus were not represented in the design. After the collapse of apartheid, South Africa's current flag was designed to represent all of the country's ethnic groups.
      Besides, I'm glad they changed the flag; the ANC isn't worthy of flying the glorious Oranje, Blanje, Blou.

    • @sovietred7371
      @sovietred7371 5 років тому +1

      @@ghostofthelostcause2744 nou dat jy dit se is ek entlik bly dat ons nie meer daai vlag het nie

    • @satanvevo2515
      @satanvevo2515 5 років тому

      The US and India should change back too.

  • @lennardhartog5767
    @lennardhartog5767 3 роки тому +15

    we've still got an orange ''wimpel'' we raise with the flag at the king/queens birthday its like a little orange pennon

  • @saoirsedeltufo7436
    @saoirsedeltufo7436 5 років тому +81

    Irish orange (associated with Irish Protestants e.g. Orange Order, Irish flag) comes from William of Orange

    • @ariari4133
      @ariari4133 5 років тому +2

      100% richt oranje marsen in IRELANND van willimpie protestantse. Ik.woon op de grens van dat waar Hugo de Groot op de boekenkist aan land gekomen is ,ik ben een Brabander

    • @pepijnwarmerdam8784
      @pepijnwarmerdam8784 3 роки тому +2

      A different William of Orange though, that was William the third.

    • @storrho
      @storrho 3 роки тому

      @@pepijnwarmerdam8784 Of Orange.

    • @pepijnwarmerdam8784
      @pepijnwarmerdam8784 3 роки тому +3

      @@storrho Yes, but not the one that was mentioned in the video.

  • @iamTheSnark
    @iamTheSnark 3 роки тому +11

    It has been said elsewhere, bu I'll do it too: Excellent English, and effortless switching from English to Dutch pronunciation at the drop of a hat.
    And, being Dutch (and a volunteer English teacher) the subject caught my attention. Interesting to the end (where you beheaded the last consonant)

  • @tworivers3518
    @tworivers3518 5 років тому +51

    Do you believe that the same artist using a different colour for the flag in different paintings may be due to who commissioned the painting, rather than what flag was actually on the ship?

  • @adammccausland354
    @adammccausland354 3 роки тому +2

    Your Dutch, German, French and English pronunciation is excellent. Such a pleasure to hear.

  • @VerbaleMondo
    @VerbaleMondo 5 років тому +120

    *Hilbert being proud of being a Dutchman for 15 minutes straight.*

    • @freekmulder3662
      @freekmulder3662 5 років тому

      He was born in Britain right? Only 1 of his parents is Dutch if I am correct

  • @DFDuck55
    @DFDuck55 5 років тому +3

    I think another factor in flag colors over the course of history is how easy is it to make a color, and how well does it stand up to weathering. Orange is not the easiest dye to make, and it fades quickly when weathered. So those orange-white-blue flags in the ship paintings could be older weathered flags that used to be red-white-blue. The least effected colors by weathering are red and blue.

  • @xXxSkyViperxXx
    @xXxSkyViperxXx 5 років тому +71

    as a colorblind person, some of the paintings look like they all have a orange or yellowish color over the white and blue except for the last one which has red over white and blue

    • @chosu1234
      @chosu1234 5 років тому +15

      xXxSkyViperxXx I saw them all as orange too but the last one 😂

    • @thezipcreator
      @thezipcreator 5 років тому

      @@chosu1234 me too

    • @firebirdcas
      @firebirdcas 5 років тому +1

      Because they are

  • @johnphillips4776
    @johnphillips4776 3 роки тому +8

    Orange & Dark Blue should've been the official flag. Most beautiful colors tbh.

  • @littlebylitttle5866
    @littlebylitttle5866 5 років тому +112

    Can you talk about regional pan colors, like the slavic pan color (red, white, blue), Africa pan color (green, red, yellow/black) and the Arab pan color?

    • @georgeptolemy7260
      @georgeptolemy7260 5 років тому +6

      Arab pan colors are green and white right?

    • @PintoRagazzo
      @PintoRagazzo 5 років тому +3

      @marios gianopoulos and red.

    • @staszekr03
      @staszekr03 5 років тому

      Slavic is just red and white. Blue is really just there cos russia.

    • @blackfrost3581
      @blackfrost3581 4 роки тому +2

      also turkic with turqiuse, although panturkism is a very impossible idea

    • @diedtich101
      @diedtich101 3 роки тому

      And the Russian flag is on its part based on the Dutch flag.

  • @codeviper8665
    @codeviper8665 4 роки тому +8

    You know, I've never thought about this. But when I saw the two side by side, they more both the Dutch flag to me, but the orange one was _more_ Dutch

  • @flyingfiddler90q
    @flyingfiddler90q 5 років тому +17

    It seems likely there was some overlap. Flags weren't exactly cheap back then, so people might have just used whichever they had...

  • @ramon_Huft
    @ramon_Huft 3 роки тому +6

    I really have respect for him being able to comfortably switch between English and Dutch, Without the Dutch sounding horrible

  • @GoodVideos4
    @GoodVideos4 5 років тому +7

    Here in Cape Town, South Africa, at a museum was a sign saying that it changed from orange to red because of the orange dye that was used. It would eventually become red. So, was decided to make it red.

  • @csonkaperdido
    @csonkaperdido 3 роки тому +4

    Anyone who's ever watched a major soccer (football) tournament knows that the Dutch LOVE their orange! And I think it's fantastic.

  • @Stephen-lv6xh
    @Stephen-lv6xh 5 років тому +289

    Ik hou van Nederland!

    • @historywithhilbert
      @historywithhilbert  5 років тому +32

      Ik hoor het graag

    • @historywithhilbert
      @historywithhilbert  5 років тому +38

      Ik pak ff mijn ovenwanten

    • @Tuning3434
      @Tuning3434 5 років тому +23

      @@historywithhilbert Ja, daar begrijp ik nu weer helemaal niks van... maar als je de stroopwafels uit de oven haal, lust ik er ook wel ééntje!
      which is probably incorrect, cause I think the two halves of a stroopwafel are baked in a waffle pan, not in an oven.

    • @ascaro1885
      @ascaro1885 5 років тому +16

      @@historywithhilbert he's speaking god's lenguage

    • @comisalessandro
      @comisalessandro 5 років тому +2

      Ik ook ;)

  • @NatasjavanDijknah
    @NatasjavanDijknah 5 років тому +21

    I like your pronounciation of Dutch :)

  • @aeiouaeiou100
    @aeiouaeiou100 5 років тому +112

    Z E G M A K K E R

    • @ivoboksem851
      @ivoboksem851 5 років тому +24

      K O K O S N O T E N Z I J N G E E N S P E C E R I J E N

    • @hewkii7157
      @hewkii7157 5 років тому +5

      V E R W I J D E R K O K O S N O O T

    • @darkpepijn
      @darkpepijn 5 років тому +3

      H O U Z E E

    • @jurnelissen7261
      @jurnelissen7261 5 років тому +7

      G E K O L O N I S E E R D

    • @ariari4133
      @ariari4133 5 років тому

      @@darkpepijn see 2 betekenisen

  • @befree_za
    @befree_za 3 роки тому +2

    It was really interesting. What is more interesting is that the Dutch arrived in 1652 in South Africa. The first Republic flag of South Africa was based on the Prinse vlag and we even had a province called the Orange Freestate. Before South Africa became a union this province was actually a Republic on it's own.

  • @christopherellis2663
    @christopherellis2663 5 років тому +16

    There is an Orange in New South Wales, 🇦🇺 known for its apples. Vaucluse, too. Better than Condom, also in France 🇫🇷
    🧙‍♂️ 🌻 🐈 🎶 🇧🇦

  • @RoelandDeGroot
    @RoelandDeGroot 5 років тому +4

    Great explanation, looking forward to the second part as the "Princevlag" is gaining popularity in certain circles. Oh, while you're at it, don't forget to weave in the origin of the orange "wimpel" which seems to be a typical Dutch phenomenon ;-)
    Keep it up!

  • @user-qr3ee3zp8q
    @user-qr3ee3zp8q 5 років тому +57

    Lekkere fijn uitgedoste barbaar referentie weer hoor. 👍🏻

  • @foughtstatue1023
    @foughtstatue1023 5 років тому +8

    I always forget about how it is currently, and I still draw it using the original colors

    • @dozog
      @dozog 3 роки тому +3

      Happy 408th birthday!!

  • @cinemacritic9571
    @cinemacritic9571 5 років тому +29

    7:47 are you colourblind? that's obviously orange

  • @TimeTravelingCompanion
    @TimeTravelingCompanion Рік тому +1

    Dutchie here! We still use the orange sometimes on our flag. On special days ( like kingsday) we use a WIMpel ( thin piece of flag ) that we ad to our flag. The name comes from willem of orange. The wim in wimpel is short for willem. It’s a thing we dutchies do to honour our king/queen

  • @faramund9865
    @faramund9865 5 років тому +87

    "Why isn't the Dutch Flag Orange?" Let's find out!

    • @florisbiezeman3800
      @florisbiezeman3800 5 років тому +5

      Sounds like Varg Vikernes

    • @faramund9865
      @faramund9865 5 років тому +1

      @@florisbiezeman3800 Perhaps... :)

    • @gaiuslucius9380
      @gaiuslucius9380 5 років тому +1

      I love you man 😂

    • @ariari4133
      @ariari4133 5 років тому

      Oranje blanje.bleu,maar diewimpel, kijk naar die oranjemarsen, in Ierland,Willem van oranje wimpel rood wit blauw

    • @ariari4133
      @ariari4133 5 років тому

      @@florisbiezeman3800 couldt be

  • @nicknoga564
    @nicknoga564 3 роки тому +2

    Great video, and greetings from New York (formerly New Amsterdam; a Dutch colony). We still retain the orange, white, and blue flag for our state... in fact our sports teams often use those colors on their uniforms (Mets, Giants, Islanders). Streets, rivers, boroughs, and neighborhoods still retain Dutch names (Brooklyn = Breuklen, Staten Island = Staaten Eylandt, Yonkers = Jonkheers, as well as Nassau County, Long Island). American culture owes so much to Dutch influence, and it’s unfortunate how few Americans realize it.

  • @mereldekerel2116
    @mereldekerel2116 3 роки тому +7

    If dutch is your native language , then I salute your accent when speaking English. No dunglish. Its such a delight to listen to :D

    • @ossie6977
      @ossie6977 3 роки тому +1

      Bruh jij bent Nederlands

    • @aaRafastsbh
      @aaRafastsbh 3 роки тому +1

      @@ossie6977 je hoeft hem niet zomaar te roasten bro

    • @iamTheSnark
      @iamTheSnark 3 роки тому

      Helemaal mee eens. Je merkt pas "hee, jij bent Nederlands" bij de eerste Nederlandse woorden.

    • @jens2049
      @jens2049 3 роки тому

      @@iamTheSnark hij is engels lol

  • @sebastiaans7115
    @sebastiaans7115 3 роки тому +2

    You sound like a native English speaker but your Dutch pronunciation is perfect. That combination is rare. It's confusing. I like it.

  • @WelshRabbit
    @WelshRabbit 5 років тому +6

    Red-white-blue is so ho hum. Like a lot of the other commenters, I, too, really like the Orange-on-Top flag, too. I even like that one (Dutch East India Company) with VOC in the center.

  • @jamesvandemark2086
    @jamesvandemark2086 Рік тому +1

    The long flag beneath the tricolor is the ship's commissioning pennant. Very important. (Dutch Navy family)

  • @erikbertram6019
    @erikbertram6019 5 років тому +4

    Dear Hilbert, watching this video full of historic ships and naval battles made me think of one of my favourite things to portray, the raid on the Medway. As a proud Dutchman this glorious victory is of course very pleasing to me. Now I was wondering how you feel about the raid on the Medway as you are sort of in between so to say. Kind regards, a fan from Staats Brabant.

    • @historywithhilbert
      @historywithhilbert  5 років тому +2

      In the Anglo-Dutch Sea Wars the Dutch Republic was objectively in the right so I see the Raid on the Medway as one of our proudest military accomplishments.

  • @kenneth8477
    @kenneth8477 2 роки тому +1

    "I need my country to have a fleet, oh! That's a beautiful flag also..." -some Peter guy

  • @sebastiaan30
    @sebastiaan30 5 років тому +5

    Love the video. You can really see that Hilbert did his homework as always. Maybe some important info for the next video. The red, White and blue flag only became a official flag of the Kingdom of the Netherlands on the 19th of feb. 1937.
    Keep up the good work .
    BTW . Who would know Hilbert looks so cute !! 🤩 Haha

  • @Tizzandor
    @Tizzandor 3 роки тому +2

    This is quite fascinating. I've been to NL often and with my mother mostly living there I've been learning a lot about the country. Got to go to Leiden soon, maybe there are a few interesting places to visit, like a museum about the history

  • @karlijnbremer1508
    @karlijnbremer1508 3 роки тому +10

    I have one thing to say:
    Scheldon Cooper fun with flags

  • @rayderrich
    @rayderrich 3 роки тому +2

    Always interesting to learn more about the country I was born in.
    You are way more entertaining than any teacher ever was.

  • @thatoneguy7191
    @thatoneguy7191 5 років тому +4

    Jouw gevoel voor humor ligt me wel ;)

  • @spartandud3
    @spartandud3 2 роки тому

    The Disclaimer - Disk Claymore joke made me laugh way more than it should've.

  • @japiegreyling3088
    @japiegreyling3088 5 років тому +52

    Afrikaans rhyme: "Oranja Banja Blou, die meisies hou van jou"

    • @CataciousAmogusevic
      @CataciousAmogusevic 5 років тому

      John-John van Niekerk lol

    • @mamamheus7751
      @mamamheus7751 5 років тому

      Aren't you the lucky one? (Assuming my Dutch isn't quite as rusty as I think it is LOL)

    • @ariari4133
      @ariari4133 5 років тому

      Church herehervomd, 1648 ,here 200 meters oude haven plaggen for rdam Dordrecht rdam, al for Holland.

    • @ariari4133
      @ariari4133 5 років тому +1

      @@justindanen1185 dat klinkt oud Nederlandse versie van de taal

    • @ariari4133
      @ariari4133 5 років тому

      @@justindanen1185 geck,en blijf die gek

  • @Jonsoh811
    @Jonsoh811 3 роки тому +2

    From what I gather from my colleagues (history teachers) a big part of the choice for red was also price. Red ink/fabric was also a lot cheap to acquire/make and the colour lasted longer. Aside from the whole point you make.
    Since many had to be made and we Dutchmen like to pay less if possible. It seems probable reason once a centralised government was formed.

  • @jackphilipsen452
    @jackphilipsen452 3 роки тому +7

    I love the orange more. Im gonna hang that one out on Kings day:p

  • @ThreePhaseHigh
    @ThreePhaseHigh Рік тому +1

    Your video is very nicely done. I got here by watching Andre Riev one of his music videos, contained a lot of orange, so I had to check it out. I now know what’s going on I hope. Again, thank you for your interesting video.

  • @vercingetorixsonofavernia6598
    @vercingetorixsonofavernia6598 5 років тому +5

    Geweldige video Hilbert!

  • @claudqia0
    @claudqia0 2 роки тому +1

    Why they changed (@Google)
    Red gradually replaced orange (1630-60) as a sign of political change and growing dissociation of the Republic from the House of Orange. It appears that prior to 1664, the red-white-blue tricolour was commonly known as the "Flag of Holland" (Hollandsche Vlag); named after one of the revolting provinces.

  • @chicaloca5307
    @chicaloca5307 5 років тому +9

    So are you British with Dutch family. Dutch with British family? Or can you do the Dutch accent just very well as a Brit? I am confused.

  • @robertopatino6646
    @robertopatino6646 3 роки тому

    Amazing you put Egmont as background music

  • @badonkster
    @badonkster 5 років тому +4

    Trying to sleep at 12
    Watching videos about the Dutch flag at 2am... Damnit

  • @zezizarjaars
    @zezizarjaars 3 роки тому +2

    You speak out the Dutch words and Dutch names really well, really like a Dutch guy would say it.

    • @boazblue2514
      @boazblue2514 3 роки тому

      He’s Dutch lmao

    • @zezizarjaars
      @zezizarjaars 3 роки тому

      @@boazblue2514 That explains a thing or two.

  • @paullombard00
    @paullombard00 5 років тому +10

    "Oranje Banje, Blou, die meisies hou van jou!" (Afrikaans children's rhyme)

  • @aram01201
    @aram01201 3 роки тому

    Your Dutch pronunciation is so endearing! Just discovered your channel and I absolutely love it!

    • @iamTheSnark
      @iamTheSnark 3 роки тому

      What? He never said stroopwafel or hagelslag!

    • @aram01201
      @aram01201 3 роки тому

      @@iamTheSnark that's not the kind of Dutch that I find "endearing"...

  • @VonEngelos
    @VonEngelos 3 роки тому +9

    I hoped you´d say: well.. The Dutchies like to refer their flag to the words "Blood, Sweat and tears". André Hazes made the anthemsong xD

  • @robertlinke2666
    @robertlinke2666 4 місяці тому

    i saw the stille willem quote at the end there, well done

  • @AJ_real
    @AJ_real 5 років тому +4

    Well it was definitely Orange because it ended up on my country's flag (Ireland) as well.

  • @endthisnonsense7202
    @endthisnonsense7202 3 роки тому +2

    Missing some more recent discussions around the two flags, late 30s it was debated in parliament where all parties had some level of support for the prinsenvlag. The Dutch Nazi's (NSB) unanimously supported it. And that triggered the Monarch of the house of Orange (Queen Wilhelmina) to finally settle it and sign the statenvlag into law, saying goodbye to the "family colour" in the flag.
    But even today some Nazi's and right wing extremists still occassionaly use it at demonstrations or in their parliament-building offices.

  • @fredh1475
    @fredh1475 5 років тому +6

    Vreeslik dankie vir al jou wonderlike video's. Ek geniet hulle vreeslik. Oranje Blanje Blou die meisies hou van jou!

  • @lucere6102
    @lucere6102 3 роки тому +1

    Your dutch pronunciation is pretty amazing!

  • @arandomlanguagenerd1869
    @arandomlanguagenerd1869 5 років тому +4

    7:43 thats not red, thats orange!
    One of the hem looks a bit red-ish but the others are clearly orange.

  • @jean-paulvannorel3713
    @jean-paulvannorel3713 3 роки тому

    The prinsenvlag was also mainly supported by the NSB following during world war 2 which is another reason why Wilhelmina in the end also decided for using the Statenvlag only from then on out!

  • @terranrepublic7023
    @terranrepublic7023 5 років тому +4

    Ironically New Amsterdam (now commonly known as New York) still kept the orange version, e.g. New York City Flag, Albany City Flag, The Bronx Flag etc.

    • @nathangamble125
      @nathangamble125 5 років тому +3

      That's not irony.

    • @dutchdykefinger
      @dutchdykefinger 5 років тому

      @@nathangamble125 indeed, it's not even much of the "coincidence" it gets mixed up with often either, it is mere history :)

  • @frisolustig4149
    @frisolustig4149 3 роки тому +2

    I thought it was very simple: the ships set out with orange, when they came back the time at sea made the orange turn red. Eventually they kept it.
    Isn't that plausible?

  • @p_mouse8676
    @p_mouse8676 5 років тому +23

    I miss the republic as well!!

  • @icom900
    @icom900 3 роки тому

    when wilem van oranje became city holder the color was oranje, but they changed it really fast back to red because the fabric was easier to get and less expensisve. and the red was more visible at sea.

  • @fuzzyduck1199
    @fuzzyduck1199 5 років тому +25

    How ironic is it that we use the red, white and blue (statesflag) nowadays. The Netherlands after all is a kingdom.

    • @catnium
      @catnium 5 років тому

      Wij zijn geen koning rijk dom oor , we zijn Deel van een konings rijk.. het koningrijk der nederlanden is meer dan alleeen nederland weet je wel.

    • @bruhz_089
      @bruhz_089 3 роки тому +3

      @@catnium speak English not gibberish

    • @pepijnwarmerdam8784
      @pepijnwarmerdam8784 3 роки тому +2

      Yeah the NSB kind of ruined that chance, our monarchs did not want to be associated with the scum that forced them to flee the country.

    • @rexyjp1237
      @rexyjp1237 3 роки тому

      @@bruhz_089 this video goes about the netherlands
      So we can speak dutch if we want Karen

  • @OxicOfficial
    @OxicOfficial 3 роки тому +1

    I was always taught that the flags color changed because the orange would quickly fade to a more red looking color aswell as the orange being harder to color flags with.

  • @jackdiaz3149
    @jackdiaz3149 5 років тому +6

    I prefer the orange flag better. Reminds me of the old flag of South Africa, because of the Dutch connections. Obviously.

    • @jackdiaz3149
      @jackdiaz3149 5 років тому +5

      Yeah, I know everything is racist now apparently.

    • @plainplane7580
      @plainplane7580 5 років тому +2

      @Slavic Steve It's because it's associated with Apartheid South Africa, similar to how the Third Reich flag or the Confederate flag are associated with the government and ideology that flew the flag.
      In my opinion, the old South Africa flag is ugly, because of the weird mini flag set up in the center. The current flag is better because it includes everyone, and so no one can really complain the flag doesn't include them.

  • @poeissalty5807
    @poeissalty5807 5 років тому +3

    Me, a dutch person: wait, there used to be orange in our flag?

  • @nielskorhorn1975
    @nielskorhorn1975 5 років тому +5

    Cheers makker dit was goed spul

    • @historywithhilbert
      @historywithhilbert  5 років тому +1

      Bedankt makker

    • @nielskorhorn1975
      @nielskorhorn1975 5 років тому +1

      @@historywithhilbert veel liefde broer

    • @rever-mi6qz
      @rever-mi6qz 5 років тому +3

      zeg makker wat betekent cheers? Angelsaksisch gebrabbel?

    • @nielskorhorn1975
      @nielskorhorn1975 5 років тому

      @@rever-mi6qz ten behoeve van ons halfbloedje presentatortje natuurlijk

  • @nyasafox1265
    @nyasafox1265 5 років тому

    For anyone wondering the music that starts at 2:26 its Kevin Macleod - Folk Round

  • @bcvetkov8534
    @bcvetkov8534 5 років тому +6

    Orange one for the win btw. Also great video keep up the good work!

  • @thinkingahead6750
    @thinkingahead6750 3 роки тому +1

    Thank you for this. It has made me want to know more about the Dutch-English interplay between (roughly) 1630 and 1700 ie before, during and after the English Civil War.

  • @williamwhisenant1494
    @williamwhisenant1494 5 років тому +4

    Wow Hilbert, if you’re ever in Miami, drinks are on me you handsome history nerd!!

  • @robertwilloughby8050
    @robertwilloughby8050 3 роки тому

    Hilbert, have you done something on the NS1500 Class? That was originally the British Railways EM2 Class. We had them from 1954-1969, but because the Woodhead route was going freight only, we sold then to you and you ran them from 1969-1986. A nice bit of modern history for you, Hilbert.

  • @panzerbanz7296
    @panzerbanz7296 5 років тому +5

    National Focus:
    Oranje Boven!
    70 days till completed.

  • @artrunger
    @artrunger 2 роки тому +1

    If only they kept the unique flag that they had, it's so much better and isn't just the french flag but horizontal

  • @legorclfactory611
    @legorclfactory611 3 роки тому +5

    You're accent is great, you'll only here you're accent when your saying names and cities. Dit is gewoon interessant 😂

    • @andor_yoko
      @andor_yoko 3 роки тому +4

      Echt geweldig hoe je 3x you're/your verwisselt en ook nog here ipv hear zegt, moest ik om lachen✌🏻

    • @einundsiebenziger5488
      @einundsiebenziger5488 3 роки тому +1

      Your* accent (you're = you are) ...

    • @legorclfactory611
      @legorclfactory611 3 роки тому +1

      @@einundsiebenziger5488 it's on purpose😂

  • @MainesOwn
    @MainesOwn 5 років тому +1

    the "Disk Claymore" was hilarious, did not come across that one before (yes, I am new to this channel)

  • @logicalthinking6230
    @logicalthinking6230 5 років тому +4

    The South African partake flag looks close to the old Dutch flag right?

    • @historywithhilbert
      @historywithhilbert  5 років тому +6

      Aye it's the Prinsevlag with the flags of the Boer Republics of Transvaal and Oranje Vrystaat and the the British flag superimposed.

    • @bri1085
      @bri1085 5 років тому

      @morton christie apartheid

  • @MrImmers
    @MrImmers 3 роки тому +1

    It is a shame you don't mention the "wimpel". And the use of the prinsenvlag by the nsb.
    Besides those two points, I liked the video very much.

    • @sagafcasagafca9197
      @sagafcasagafca9197 3 роки тому

      De waarheid is hard gap, en hij kan dat blijkbaar niet aan.