CZ 457 VARMINT MTR .22LR with SK LONG RANGE MATCH @ 50 yards
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- Опубліковано 25 сер 2024
- SK Long Range Match is for targets 100 yards and beyond but today I will be testing it at 50 yards to see how it stacks up against other ammo in the CZ.
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That CZ is flat out a tack driving machine!
You should get an eye on my Weirauch... A pound and 3/4 trigger, shooting RWS standard, riffle match or R50 do not makes a difference. Always suppressed, 330 m/sec is sub-sonic. Sub-Sonic ammo are a lost of time and money...
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I am happy with it! Thanks!
@@philippefrater2000 when the super sonic bullets drop to subsonic, they usually lose some accuracy because it's a rough transition, so starting out subsonic has it's advantages at longer ranges.
@@philippefrater2000 u shooting HW66 or HW60J ? I considering a CZ457 and a HW
This is such a cool series!
Thanks man!! I've learned a few things along the way! The leader as of right now is the second least expensive ammo I've tested which I think is pretty cool.
Deviation in flight from supersonic to subsonic will cause vibration, flight disturbance, but by the groups, it certainly is not significant.
I had a close Boeing friend, MIT man, who spent many hours in wind tunnel tests.
I'd think, molecular compression, constriction due to temperature would be more of a factor in velocity, but, you'd have to re-run the same tests during higher ambient temperatures like summer, using the same ammo to compare velocities.
Just same, keeping it simple, I've YET to be NOT impressed with that CZ!
The guy behind the trigger isn't bad either! Both super performers! I came here for Beowulf, now I'm here for whatever is served up.
Great job on every video!
Thanks for the great comment. I appreciate it!
So far with all the different ammo you have shot, I am impressed with that rifle . For an out of box, You shoot it very well.
I am very pleased with it. It seems to shoot a wide variety of ammo pretty well for a rifle in it's price range. Thanks for the comment.
@@buffalosoutdoors I couldn't agree more. Great shooting, exemplery commitment. Thanks @Buffalo.
Question: if by chance you've shot with the CZ 457 Lux, how does that compare to the CZ 457 MTR?
Keep doing what you're doing how you're doing it! Thanks
Thanks! I appreciate your comment! It's hard trying to explain over and over why I haven't made any changes to my method. Glad some of you guys understand!
Excellent information regarding the supersonic transition. Keep up the great work.
I really like your consistency in testing. Thanks for the video.
Thank you.
This is a GREAT Series!! Thanks so much. Picking up this model hopefully by weeks end & your series is perfect. Thanks Again.
Your doing an out standing job.
I’m such a big fan of CZ.
They sure know how to put a firearm together. THanks for watching!
That was good shooting again,...I do enjoy these 'ammo. tests'.
Thank you! I am glad you like them. I sure have enjoyed doing it. I have learned a lot about my rifle along the way it's an honor to get to share what I am seeing on video with you guys.
Wolf Match! Yes! It Is Manufactured By Eley. A Hidden Gem Of .22 Ammo.
I am expecting it to arrive either later this week or early next. Either way you will see it here soon!
or SK depending on the lot
Lovin' the sound track at the start. LOL Nice video.
Thanks 👍
Great stuff as always buffalo thanks for bringing us along.
Excellent. That discussion about going trans sonic was great.
Thank you. Glad you enjoyed that part. I almost edited that part out to shorten the video up some, glad I left it in now!
Love your videos and techniques. Keep up the good work. You're a natural in front of the camera.
Thank you! I am glad to hear that you enjoy the videos!
Best ammo series on UA-cam! Have you ever thought about doing .22 re-sizing thru a die? Just to make them more accurate?
I have lots to choose from but it's the price tag I look at before anything!...enjoy your videos Buff.
Pricing has become atrocious here! I am seeing people paying over 100 dollars for a Federal 500 round bulk pack.
Not even watched the vid yet Buffalo and i already know it is safe to say.(you are absolutely correct and splendid behavior)keep your powder dry and your mind on JESUS
Thank you for this comment. Much appreciated!
You Sir, make very nice videos...............................Thank you!!!
You're very welcome.
Great videos, I love this gun. Love seeing the comparisons on the premium ammo I am also testing!
I am glad that you like this series of videos. It's been fun so far and I've been surprised by some of the results already.
@@buffalosoutdoors I'm impressed, good to know what average shooters like me can expect out of the premium stuff.
Great video Buffalo !
The more I see you shoot that rifle, the more I like it.
Thank you. It has really grown on me. I am very happy with this purchase.
Being a banjo player I liked the music at the start of your video. I also shoot a CZ 457 mtr I have a Harrell's tuner on it And it works great. Thanks for the great videos keep up the good work.
Great work Buffalo. I like your tests and not least your music. Got a CZ Thumbhole and SK Standard+ does a very good job. Greetings from Germany, Mainz Area.
Really great point about bullet speed. You are correct about the supersonic to subsonic transition. Very much an issue even for fighter aircraft. Ask the very long range comp shooters and they will tell you how much impact it can have. I.E a lot!
Hey thanks! I am glad I left that part in the video now. I almost edited it to shorten the video a bit and sometimes I wonder if people watch that far into a video. That makes me glad to see your comment!
Buffalo If it becomes available I would like to see you review Cci standard velocity and Cci green tag even if it after this testing.
I have searched high and low for CCI SV because so many have asked for it. I can't find any anywhere. If and when it does become available again you have my word I'll test it.
@@buffalosoutdoors I would send you some but my current status is out of stock,Thank you for your response
How much do you need for your tests?
Buffalo's Outdoors I’ve got a bunch. You send me a PO Box and it’ll be there in a week.
Edit: ok I just checked, I no longer have a bunch, but i’ve got a mostly full box left that’s yours if you want it.
@@jimyeats That's a nice offer, but you can't send ammo to a PO box, nor through the USPS.
Love these - keep up the great work
Thanks! I appreciate ya man.
Mighty fine shooting their buffalo. Great video as always thank you for what you do brother
Larry I sure appreciate you brother! Thanks for all you do, not just for my channel but you are always a voice of reason on other social media platforms as well. You don't know how many times your posts have made me challenge myself to be better.
I watch a lot of Gun UA-cams and I have to say you sir, are certainly one of my favorites
You and Mixup 98 are great.
Hey Doug thank you very much! I really appreciate that. And you put me in good company too as I enjoy the mixup98 channel.
This series is excellent
love the chicken pickin in the background!!
How are you doing my friend I love your post I have a CZ in my collection you have a wonderful day
I am doing well, I hope you are too. Have a great evening!
@@buffalosoutdoors I am glad to from you my friend 🙏
lovely rifle
Thank you!
The stock on that rifle awesome looking.
Thank you very much. This is very interesting. And shooting a bolt action .22LR rifle is very enjoyable.
You're very welcome! Thank you for watching.
Nice groups!! That brick of SK sure did look pretty 😉 Thanks Buffalo!
Thanks! I was sure glad to find that lonesome brick!
Another great day at the range. I seen some SK ammo 6 months ago and didn't get any. I missed the boat on that one it seems to be good ammo. But the CZ is performing perfectly. I like thier rifles better than thier handguns.
I think I do too. Not that they make bad handguns but they make wonderful rifles.
hello, nice video, but you definitely need an old Brno model 4 Aeron single roundg follower, It can be inserted as your magazine and it allows you to load the gun one by one ...
My new 457 Pro Varmint is in the mail on the way to my local gun shop:) Can't wait to go pick it up.
If they threaded the barrel, I would have bought the one that you bought.
Awesome man. That's exciting. I love it when I have a new gun on the way. I hear you on the threaded barrel. I don't really have anything to use the threads for anyway but it would be nice if it had them for folks like you. That 457 Pro looks sweet.
Great video! Like your attention to detail.
I lost the moment where you said what distance you are shooting, trouble finding it back.
Good to see you using SKLR Match ammo. both my CZ457s love this stuff. I have the MTR & Varmint nothing in it for accuracy. 2x10 shot groups 9.6mm. I do weigh & measure length though. Length varies by 0.011" causing velocity variations/re P.O.I. change. Also have found SK Std Plus shoots tighter groups in both guns.Also sorted by length.
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Thanks for watching. That is some great shooting. I have been encouraged to sort my ammo as well but for now I just want to see how consistent they are straight out of the box.
just bought some SK match and SK standard plus to test on my new rifle, looking forward to it. Wanting to try SK long range as well
I ain't believing the consistency in the coronagraph reading of those rnds !
Hey Buffalo! Great series. So great I went out and picked up my own 457 Varmint and it is a tack driver. You mentioned trying Wolf Match Extra. My 457 absolutely loves that ammo. Anxious to see your in depth testing on the Wolf ammo.
Awesome! I am glad you like yours. I have been very happy with this one. The Wolf Match Extra gets highly recommended on some of the forums I frequent so I too look forward to testing it! Thanks Bill!
Outstanding shooting friend. May your channel blowup into millions of subscribers. Great presentation and showmanship too! 👏👏👏🤝🤝🤝
I like your methodology, great series!
Very consistent velocity..great job..
Thank you!
I really enjoy this CZ 457 "series" of videos as they are both informative and therapeutic. Ever notice Buffalo's up votes to down votes ratio? Says a lot.
Thanks man. I took a look at my analytics page and overall this channel gets a 98.8 % like to dislike ratio. That's pretty good! Thanks for noticing!
That's some wicked consistent ammo!
I sure is. Thanks for watching man!
I have the Browning t-bolt target/varmint with a Leopold VX Freedom 2x7x33 and I shoot the SK Standard Plus in it and it loves it. @50 yards I shoot the bullseye and then I put the next 9 bullets in the same hole. This setup is the most accurate I've ever seen or had. I'm going to try it with the Long Range and see what it does.
That is outstanding!
Well.....another fine video Buffalo. Thank ye.
Thank you Bill!
Nice shooting you are doing a fair testing don’t change it , it will be interesting to see the three best when it get here. Stay safe 👍
Thank you, I try my best to keep it as fair as possible!
Buffalo's Outdoors most of these ammunition’s l never heard of but if I was to try them I’ll a good idea how they will preform thank you stay warm.
I saw the surge on ammo coming so I bought 1000 CCI green tag and 1000 CCI standard velocity. So far my MTR didn’t care for either of them. After about 15 different brands and types, RWS Target Rifle and another type of RWS have consistently shot the best. Since premium ammo is hard to find I’m saving your results to help, if and when ammo becomes available. Thanks again. Ps. Best bumper music on the TUBE.
Thanks! My MTR came with a target in the box that showed a really nice group they shot at the factory with RWS but I haven't been able to find any of it. I hope to try some in it one of these days.
@@buffalosoutdoors I follow 304 and he’s using our rifle. I asked him where he was getting his premium ammo. He said Champions Choice was his source. I checked and bought 7 or 8 types and ten boxes each. Apparently others did too because today they had 2 so I ordered ten of each. I’m afraid it’s not going to get better anytime soon. All the best from here in central Illinois.
I agree Jerry King
My MTR shot CCI ok when it was new but RWS and SK/Lapua is by far the best. RWS R50-SC is the best I've found but for the same price I just got a case of SK LRM and a case of SK STD
I also picked up a case of CCI SV for $240 just to use for positional stages practice.
@@jerryking3208 that's funny, that was me telling him were I was getting my ammo from.
They are now out of must stuff
That’s very impressive
Thank you for tuning in. I know you're a busy man so I appreciate your time my friend.
My suggestion is for Buffalo to do Buffalo,,Most of their suggestions will contradict each other,You do a DANG good job!!
Thank you. Your suggestion is taken to heart!
Buffalo thats a good lookn rifle , great video and excellent shooting as always .
Thank you Mike! Always happy to see you here. I appreciate the comment!
I believe with that rifle you can shoot just about any ammo and get decent groups. They have all looked good to me. Nice shooting!!
It has been pretty consistent across the board. I am happy with it. Thanks Lance!
I'd like to see you try maintain a constant cheek weld and load from the magazine for a full string. . . Very watchable . . .niceee
The designation of the ammunition as long range might suggest it design was for it to have the least effect on accuracy at a specific range. It might be; it will shoot more consistent groups at longer distances than others traveling slower than the speed of sound. I have had better luck using 1200 feet per-second velocity loads at 100 yards I believe for the same reason. By the looks of your velocity results; this brand might have a lower velocity deviation than others you tested. It is common the ammo that groups best at 50-yards may not be the brand that groups best at 100-yards. It is true that shorter barrels produce higher or equal velocities as longer ones. However; longer barrels provide more spin to the bullets than short barrels. The bullet rotates one revolution in 16 inches; in a 24-inch barrel it rotates 1½ times before it exits the barrel. What you choose to believe is up to what shoots best for you. I have both and on any given day one might shoot better than the other.
Love your work.
Thank you!
That CZ shoots almost as good as my Marlin 39A Mountie did in 1965. OK I guess my memory might be embellishing that a little bit. Give me a couple more years and that Marlin will be shooting 1 hole groups at 100 yds. All joking aside that CZ is a nice rifle and I like your testing technique.
The Marlin 39 has street cred. Instant respect.
@@buffalosoutdoors They really are great rifles.
Another great video. Dang, I need to find some of this brand and see how it will perform in my old tbolt
It's good stuff. I've noticed it burns clean to for .22lr. With some brands find a lot of powder residue on the bench in front of the muzzle after I am done but not so much with the SK.
Nice video Buffalo
Glad you enjoyed it
Good vid & nice shootin👍!
Thank you!
Love this series! The use of the chronograph really shows the variance in velocity especially when you shot the Federal bulk, 48 fps difference from the fastest to the slowest. Most the SK's is maybe 20 fps. I have found my CZ457 Varmint MTR likes all the SK brands, but loves the SK Pistol Special. I was wondering if you would consider sorting by weight & rim thickness when you get down to your top Three competition? Keep up the good work!
I don't have any CCI standard velocity, but I have a lot of CCI 40gr mini mags if want to test it
Thanks Jeff. I appreciate you buddy. I have some mini mags. I was hoping to find some SV as a lot of folks have requested to see it.
Howdy Tatonka!
That sucker is Minute Of Squirrel Head, ain't it!
It will not have much of an effect on something like a 22 as evident by you shooting basically 1 MOA. That is great ammo! I would buy that any day!
Howdy Uncle Dan. I see you got some snow! I watched your video earlier on the big TV in the living room.
@@buffalosoutdoors yes sir and it is finally melting just in time to turn into a solid sheet of ice. I might have to stay home tomorrow!
@@UncleDanBand64 Stay safe brother!
That stock is UUUUUGLY! Nice rifle, though!
I agree. It feels lovely in your hand though. One of those function over form deals.
I'm ugly too so me and this rifle are a good match.
SK works well. Good stuff. Try SK Rifle Match if you can get ahold of some. Its round nose like the Long Range and Standard Plus.
THanks for the suggestion Dan! I like the SK stuff.
Can't complain about those groups! I haven't got a chance to take my MTR out yet but I picked up all the different ammo you have tested plus some Lapua X-Act, when I do get out it's going to be a long day of bench shooting.
Oh yeah but what a great way to spend a day! Thanks for the comment. I need to find some of that X-Act!
@@buffalosoutdoors Area 419 rail and bolt knob showed up in the mail today, rifle is assembled. Should get it out this weekend. Next vid you put out in this series I’ll let you know how it went.
Its not the worst problem in the world to have, being "stuck" with such good ammo. =)
LOL! True!
I haven't seen you try Federal yet. I shot BR 50/50 years back and that's the ammo all of us used. Premium match ....try it.
Is there a reason you don’t shoot out of the magazine? Love the vids, just confused as to why you break your hold every time to load the gun when it has a magazine.
That is a nice, accurate .22. If I were in the market for a .22 target rifle id consider it. Right now, I'm just trying to find .308 to feed my new Savage 110 tactical. And 5.56.
Thank you and I feel you on the ammo situation! I love those 110 Tactical rifles! I've been wanting one!
I’ve always been impressed with your videos and ability to shoot well.I’d like to know as to why you do so much thumb adjusting. Might it be done for leveling the firearm?
Why are you not using the 5 round magazine? Noticed when the velocity dropped down so did the shots.
I need one of those.....bad.
They are nice rifles. Thank you for watching!
Believe it or not, the Wolf Match is crazy accurate out of that rifle.
Nice shootin Buffalo 🐃. Its to bad your closer to me. I have some cci that id let ya have for the shoot 🔫 cause I'm definitely into this. Sorry but the pictures 📷 😅
Good looking rifle, I’ve not seen that particular stock
Thanks for this nice video. I really like them! I have a question (but maybe you already mentioned that in one of your videos) Why do you load your shots manually, and don't use your magasine? Just so you are certain that there is no deformation of the bullet from loading from the magasine?
Glad to see another ammo test. Stick to your guns (no pun intended) on the test method. Like you said you have to keep it consistent.
THANK YOU! I've had to explain why I do things the same over and over and over.... I am so glad some of you GET IT!
Hey Buffalo, nice shooting as usual. You mentioned that you may fidle with the set up at the final three. Maybe best just to do everything the same as when you started.
I am not sure yet. Once I get all ten ammo test videos done I may make a few changes that viewers have suggested and then do the grand finale.
great series, why don't you use the magazine
This is very interesting testing Buffalo, but it leads me to a question. Is the CZ match chamber cut more conducive to Lapua/SK ammunition than Eley? SK and Lapua really owned by the same company and now made in the same factory (Nammo Group of companies and made in Schönebeck Germany) Wolf the new stuff is now made by Eley. SK is aimed at the middle tier and Lapua at the higher end. SOOOO with this information, if the channel came together to get you some high end Lapua I think we would want to see that tested? Like Lapua Xact or Lapua Midas+ 😂 ain't it great when your friends push you further down the rabbit hole 😂
Nice observation! I have no idea. And no, I ain't chasing that rabbit! LOL
I wouldn't change a thing on your Rifle or your setup that is shooter for sure.
Thank you! I appreciate you saying this!
21 FPS spread not bad at all.
I would love to see agulia extra and cci standard threw in the mix. If you have a few laying around. Hell auto match as well, while I’m making list of stuff up.
CCI Standard Velocity has been the most requested by far and I can't find any of it anywhere. I am still looking!
Another great video mr. Buffalo! I got a 44 mag that I'm shooting out at a hundred yards and I'm just wondering because some bullets I can't get them to group very well and if that is the reason why, the bullets are going from supersonic to subsonic
I really don't know how much it effects accuracy. I know it is something that the long range guys have deal with it and talk about it often. Thanks for watching man I know you're a busy man and I appreciate it!
You ever try shifting your point of impact, maybe one click off the center of the target? The benefit would be the center of that target doesn't change, bullet impacts don't chew it up. Depending on my reticle, I can still "bracket" between 1/2 mil marks, or just use a crosshair to stay centered, so I don't always do that.
Good shooting as usual.
Yes. I will talk about this some in the grand finale. I think you will like the target I am going to be shooting. Great comment by the way. I can tell you're a shooter!
I’ve never heard of SK ammo, but I’m willing to bet they will be willing to donate to your channel if you offer them a link because they are going to see a small increase in demand because of you. 😉
That's true,..because I am looking for some now!
@@superpoint43 well I’m a .22lr enthusiast who’s never heard of it. If there’s one of us there’s a 1000 so a small increase is inevitable. Significant is not quantifiable with any accuracy now is it? 😋
@@superpoint43 I may not be on your level, but I absolutely love my .22lrs and .22 magnums. Only time will tell whether I’m fantasy prone, or just insightful. Now you have yourself a great year. 😎🤙🏼
@@superpoint43 Opps, sorry, but you're wrong!
You underestimate the 'power' of advertising on 'good quality' videos like this one. Do you watch 'Outdoors with The Morgans",.... do you think the tractor and equipment
name of Kubota is unknown? Then why, I wonder, did Kubota 'jump' at the chance to loan him all that equipment to work and play with. Then he ended up, just now, buying a mid sized Excavator,.... wonder where all that money came from!
Now, superpoint43' stop and ponder this for a bit, and please don't feel that you need to take a shot at me for replying to your comment, I am merely pointing out that SK Ammunition will undoubtedly benefit from the exposure they are getting because of 'Buffalo's Outdoors' videos.
Hey man thanks for watching and I am glad to be able to introduce some folks to SK ammo if they didn't already know about it. It's good stuff. What's weird though is that it is all that I can find in my area as far as match ammo! I can't explain that. I always look forward to your comments.
I think you are doing a great job. You have probably improved and got used to this rifle as it has bedded in so I think you need to shoot the Midas and Tenex again as I suspect you would see a better result with them.
Things like this enter my mind as well. I am not sure how I am going to handle it but I have a couple of ideas that I might try just to bring them back into the mix.
100 yard test please
Buff......I get what you're doing. BUT.....As a Precision Rifle Enthusiast for a while, I feel bad for commenting. There are sooooo many variables to consider. My first concern is your "clean cold bore" shot. or even "fouled cold bore" shot. Alot of things change as each round is sent down range. consistency WILL change from the first shot to the 20th shot. It all depends what your barrel likes. from what im seeing.........your barrel seems to do goon on most ammo.......but as it warms up a bit (or fouled out) it seems to vary some. So.......if its a squirel hunter......it does great from the first 5 shots. Then the barrels warms up.....or....its fouled out and doesnt like it. If its going to be a MOA range toy........We have to figure out if its the heat or the fouling it doesnt like. My rifles....have a different clean cold bore shot compared to a dirty cold bore shot. And as the barrel warms up.....they all usually end up in the same place. Most of the time, barrels prefer a dirty bore and get the best consinsty that way. This is a tail chasing game that will get ya going!!!!!! Oh crap.......Im about to get called to the carpet by the Buff!!!!!! Love ya!!!! Stay safe!!
You didn't even cover the part where I am effecting the results simply by doing the tests. I am sure I have gotten a better feel for the rifle on the 6th ammo test than I did on the first. In other words there is no way I can control everything, I just do my best to control what I can. Thanks for the comment Brian!
SK is good stuff. Standard Plus is nearly as good as CenterX and Tenex and a third the cost.
SK Standard Plus is all I shoot!
Dang Buff, I think you can out shoot me with your eyes closed!! Good shootin Bud!
LOL! I don't know about that.... That's pretty funny though, made me smile. Have a good one Gary!
Buffalo, is that you on the banjo?
Thanks for the info on the temp and speed of sound at the end. I never knew that was a consideration but it makes total sense.
Hello Pete. Glad you enjoyed the video. That's my good friend Greg on the banjo - ua-cam.com/video/2H7gyTs1LEE/v-deo.html
What’s your favorite SK in that MTR.@50
Buffalo. Try armscor 40g lead round nose, standard velocity. It’s a great performer and inexpensive.
Thanks for the suggestion. I am running out of slots to fill at this point but if I see some I will certainly grab it!