Heads up for anyone considering these or the Arctic P14 for case fans. I tested the P14's and F14's extensively and went with the F14's. I have a very high end (read: high thermal output) gaming PC inside a Phanteks P500A case. What won me over was for the overall sound and cooling performance. The F14's were just a smidge quieter and of what you could hear, it just had a slightly better sounding hum to it. Cooling performance was also consistently 0.5-1C cooler when comparing PWM% levels between the two at all ranges. I actually really wanted to keep the P14's as they are "newer" and all the reviews praised them highly but I couldn't ignore nor deny the real-world testing performance results of the F14's over the P14's in my case. All in all, you can't really go wrong with either but the F14's also won me over considering they are actually designed for case airflow in mind (which makes sense of the performance edge they had over the P14's as low impedance to airflow case fans as was the case on my Phanteks P500A). I have little doubt the P14's would edge out the F14's for heatsink/radiator cooling and high impedance to airflow cases. To give you an idea of just how low impedence my Phanteks P500A case is, with the side-panel open (so components have easy access to ambient air), running RTX Quake, GPU temp stabalised at 75C. With the side-panel closed and all F14 fans off, GPU temp stabalised at 84C. With the F14's at just 30% PWM (corresponding to ~620 RPM), GPU temp stabalised at 77C (only 2C hotter than open side-panel condition). With the F14's at 100% PWM (corresponding to ~1400 RPM), GPU temp was 74C (only 1C cooler than open side-panel condition). With the P14's @ 30% PWM (corresponding to ~720RPM), GPU temp stabalised at 78C (1C hotter than F14's). With the P14's @ 100% PWM (corresponding to ~1675RPM), GPU temp stabilised at 74.5C (0.5C hotter than for the F14's and only 0.5C cooler than with the side-panel opened condition). I would never normally run the fans at 100% speed but I wanted to see how they two sets of fans compared at all speed ranges and it surprised me how low (only 30% PWM) I could run the fans and get still achieve stellar sound and cooling performance out of them. Anyways, hope this might come of help to someone out there. Oh, one last thing. I think the F14's are using the same internals for the motor and bearing as the P14's. I was concerned over the fact the F14's were released so much further back than the P14's that the internal mechanics/motors would be inferior but seems that is not the case and that they are using the same motor, shaft and bearing.
Appreciate your insightful and helpful comment. I'm also a happy owner of a P500A. Just two quick questions. Did you have front and top dust filters on when you did those tests? What's your fan configuration (I'm assuming 3 front intake, 3 top exhaust and 1 rear exhaust)? Also I really wish F14 had a white version like P14 does (not the black and white version).
That all appreciated, the fact the F12s merely "edge out" the P12s in unrestricted airflow situations is testement to how much the pressure optimisation of the P series comes with so little drawback in airflow. I like the way the industry changed overnight to seeing static pressure as a thing and manufacturers responded with fans that were pretty good at both.
The P14 and F14 both max out at the same CFM (I believe it is 73CFM on the P14 and 74CFM on the F14), however, the P14 has double the static pressure. So it's far better at sucking air through a filter or pushing air through grills, fins and radiators. That's what made me swap all the fans in my case to P14's. The two in the front are sucking air through a cotton or nylon mesh fabric (no visible holes) and the top has the larger typical holes plus a filter on top that's held on by magnets. The rear is just the typical larger holes for exhaust. Figured I'd get more flow when it's all said and done by going with the double static pressure version. If they were just sitting on a table, then the F14 would move the same amount of air at a lower RPM, but as you can hear, they are louder at the lower RPM due to the extra, thinner fan blades. I dunno. Guess it depends on your case and what you're fans are pushing/pulling through. I know there's no way an F14 could pull the air through my front filters like the P14. I could have mixed it up but there was a good deal on a 5 pack so I just got all P14's.
Well, they are supposed to be P for Pressure and F for Flow, so the P's are for rads, air-coolers with dense fin stacks and filtered case intakes, F for unfiltered case intake or exhaust.
I'm def team P. I just did a build for a friend in a bequiet 500dx and put 3 p12's in the front, 1 in the rear, and used 2 of the silent wings the case comes with for the top. He can't hear anything, his 5900x is oc'd to 4.2ghz with a Noctua u12a cooling it and he's in love with the build. My personal build also uses a 500dx with a 5900x and Noctua u12a except my cpu is oc'd to 4.4ghz at 1.275. I'm using 5 P14's and I'm in heaven. The sounds is pleasant, when it is that I can even hear it bc no music or what have you. Those P series fans are just excellent. Front and rear fans set to 'performance' mode in the bios while plugged into fan headers on my Asrock x570 Taichi Razer edition. My two top P14's are set to normal in the bios and they are effectively silent. So it's white PWM PST's and I'm extremely happy.
I've had a total of 9 of these in my inwin 303. I love the price for what they are worth. They are noticeable above 60% fan speed. Around 1200 rpm. But I use head phones so it's not much to think about when the price of them is unbeatable. Given some AAA fans are like 30$ usd for a single fan. Best in the bizz.
@@dv2045 if you're looking to save a little bit more just go with f12. But the bionix are definitely in a great price point. Dont over think it. I would just get the f12.
@@dv2045 It's up to you, if there is a difference in noise between them and you are willing to pay more for something quiet, go with the Bionix ones. But i don't know if there is much of a difference, haven't seen any comparisons
Just bought 2 of the Artic P14 140mm fans to replace the worn out fans on my Corsair H115i 280mm Radiator, hopefully they will do the job well. thanks for posting this interesting video, thumbed up :)
@@KloVnPT I ended up buying the artic freezer II CPU cooler 240mm radiator version as my Corsair H115i had a terrible pump noise, think the pump was dying tbh. Anyway the freezer II fits perfectly in the front of the case i bought (fractal define 7 black / white version). So technically i now have 4 artic fans in my case 2 x140mm at top of case helping blow out the hot air, and 2x120mm on the radiator sucking cold air in the front of the case. My 3900x now idles as low as 30c depending on room temp.
@@lee__1707 Yeah I'll buy 2 of those for the H115i and extra 2 to replace the default NZXT fans that came with the case. One more question, is it worth to order some rubber mounts or are they quiet enough? I really need some quiet fans, my pc is right next to my left ear and I use open-back headphones
@@KloVnPT You cant go wrong with rubber screw mounts you can get a bag of 20 of them off amazon for cheap. peace of mind you will have a quiet setup no matter what. I do find mine quiet but my pc is under a desk at my feet, if yours is up next to your head get the rubber mounts too, you might not need them but peace of mind like i say
Not sure what you are looking for but you will never find a truly silent fan that pushes any kind of useful airflow. I switched to these after my Corsair LL120's started flickering like nuts and I refused to pay another 80 bux for em. The Arctic P14 PWM Pst fans went onto my Evga clc280 and 3 Arctic Bionix f140's freshen up the rest of my Define R6 and I must say couldn't be happier. The p14's are 100 times quiter than my EVGA 140's that were stock with the cooler and even on high at the front of the case it's a pleasant whirr instead of the Jet engine sounds from the EVGA fans. The other 3 aren't even audible at normal auto sppeds. If I ramp them up to full (Which in normal use will NEVER EVER happen) you can hear them but it's not loud enough to be distracting or bothersome. I'll buy Arctic in the future. The New chromax lineup from Noctua is another solid choice for Flow and sound concerns and in my experience are just a tad quieter than these but at a few hundred rpms less.
Ya man the 5 packs for $25-$30 there awesome. Price to performance to noise ratio is great. Once properly mounted they are nice. I choose these for the reasons listed before. Also this fan has be dissembled so take that for what you will. I love corsair mag lev fans but $20-33 each just not worth it unless you have no cash filter. Ive built rigs for people with only p series fans for everything and its awesome.
Arctic P12 PWM is on it's way, hopefully it will be good fan for my 212 EVO. I also ordered F12 PWM PST CO (Dual Ball Bearing) to test them as a top exhaust fan, but I guess I will give it a shot as a CPU fan... if P12 was noisy.
Thanks for the test; recently got 3x p14 for the chassis airflow, and now i am thinking to also get p12 to switch cpu fan (it started doin significant vibration on 1.100+ RPM after more or less 4 years of usage, model is cooler master 120 ab), was curious how good it is (since be quiet pure wing 2 cost about the same $ here, according to some other test that i found - be! does slightly more noise while producing the same amount of air pressure). Guess i cant go wrong with arctic in this price category :) Talking about p14 - i didnt notice any vibration at all (i added antivibro pads while was "screwing" it to the case tho), at 650 rpm or lower it also doesnt produce any significant noise id say :)
I have some Arctic F12 and consider them to be too noisy to use. I might consider the P14, but my budget option lately has been the Noctua Redux series. Maybe the P14 would be a good case fan and I will put the Redux on my radiator.
Why does nobody else go into this level of detail? I feel like I've been getting nothing but hints on UA-cam but suddenly someone's giving actual details.
Bought a pack of 5 for the same price of a Noctua NF-A12x25, though I will be purchasing a black (Chromax) version of it next year when it comes out Q1 2021. ARCTIC P12 PWM PST Value Pack is pretty good for the performance/value/silence.
Which 120mm fan would you recommend replacing in the 500 watt deepcool power supply ? the native fan makes sounds as if the train is knocking the wheels on the rails
They are not. Sadly the P12 ( P14 also ) start very fast to gather dust ...and start making weird sounds in a few months . Over time they are louder that the F12. / F12 are quieter in the long run. If Artcic could fix the design of the P12 they could be the best. There is P12 PWM PST CO ( from continuous operation ) that have some special 2 ball japanese bearings that could be the solution to the problem but i have not tested it.
thought about getting these, caus they where cheap and got some good numbers. But if they got vibrations, it does not matter how quiet they run, they will make a shit ton of noise when in a case.
I have the P14's and 3 P12's (on a radiator). They are very quiet, little to no noise at all unless running at higher RPMs. But then, I do mount them using silicone mounting "screws" so...
the f12 is a airflow type fan. i personally only F series foe exhaust purpose because i always have exhaust lower then intake to create a slightly positive airflow. so i set my F series to run at 25% slower then my P series which is basically the rest of the P series. to be safe stick to P and you wont go wrong.
This really thorough test. I have 4 of P14's in my Define R6, they are pretty good but can you suggest anything better soundwise (running them from PWM hub)?
General noise troubleshooting: 1)Buzzing, clacking, clicking: Use rubber fan mounts instead of fan screws 2)Fans running faster than needed: Use PWM splitters (either chain Y splitters or get a 4way) (or buy the PST version) to split the PWM control signal between all fans The fans will run as long as the PWM is >5%. You do not need to 'kickstart' them, as this will happen automatically from the IC inside the fan.
@@liminalsunset Im experiencing more like air chuffing sound. Kind of low frequency huffing. Maybe I need to tweak the fan curves, altough at the same time I wish to maintain my current all around system temps.
@@fobaa You may want to check that the grille/radiator/heat sync the fan is mounted to is not too restrictive. Also, make sure there's nothing (filter, heat sync, grille, etc) too close to the intake. What speed are you running the fans at?
@@fobaa Try to disconnect the devices in your system and run one at a time to isolate the noise source. HDDs may benefit from resilient mounting to absorb vibrations that may transmit to the case, or alternatively, can be powered off when not used or changed with SSD.
Noctua NF-A12 costs more than 4 times than these Arctic pressure optimised fans. And they don't spin faster than 700-800 rpm in real life use for me so noise is not an issue.
Nice review but Arctic claims that the amps for the F12 fan is 0.24 A @ 12V, but you had only 0.07 A @ 11.7V so is it really working at it's full potential during your test ?
It's likely that the current rating printed on the back of the fan is the "safety" current; the maximum current the fan is able to pull, with the fan blades locked or under significant backpressure (unsure of exact specification of UL standard)/when it is starting, and not the "nominal" current. Some fans have both ratings printed on the back for this reason.
So not the best, but not too bad. Especially at 70%~ Fan speed, seems like a good balance of airflow and quiet. Heck, they're cheap when on sale. I was able to get a P12 for $6.99 to test. It is very quiet at 70% while decent amount of air. Sure, it's not a noctua, but it costs less than half the price.
I have them in my 280mm liquid freezer when i installed the cooler i forgot to peel the plastic of the logo when i started to peel the fan just moves down a bit the when reduce the pressure goes back to the frame of the fan and then i use my other hand to support the fan thats normal right ? they work i didn't damaged them ? i talk about p14 btw
Tried the Arctic P14 based on the many reviews of it saying its the most silent fan..Bought a set of 5 bundle, and put 3 into my case. Well I already noticed something was bad when I took them out of the case. The fan plastic is very hard and it makes a sound when you flick it with a finger, just like a wine glass does.. So to no surprise when 3 of them spin up side by side, they begin to "sing". Resonance overload! They simply begin to whine at the frequency that the plastic resonates at, due to it being very hard. Fans need to be somewhat flexible and more rubber like to not resonate. So due to the resonance, the arctic fans are the most loud fans I ever tried. -never test fans one by one, you need multiple to check if they resonate inside the case.
Hey! I have such fans in my pc is it okay if i dissasemble them to clean them better? And also for my cpu fan is it ok to pop it off the housing, like they won’t get damaged or anything (sorry for the stupid question)
I do not recommend disassembling them to clean them, but rather to use a soft bristle brush to brush the dust off the surfaces lightly. It does a very good job.
My Motherboard is an old Intel 67BL which only have two PWM (4PIN) fan ports, one for the back, & another one in front. I already have two Corsair ML140 140mm PWM (4PIN) Fans that am using in my PC case/cabinet Now, in order to create a 5 PWM PST fans Daisy chain, can I connect my two Corsair ML140 MM PWM (NON-PST) FAN with my three Arctic P14 PWM PST CO 140MM FAN? If yes then what should be the order?
currently thinking about having 3 f12's in the front for intake 1 in the back for exhaust and 2 p14's for my h115i radiator on top as exhaust, ideas or suggestions?
@@smugmode I just went with f series for intake and 1 exhaust because they are airflow optimized while p series are static pressure optimized so its just made the most sense. in reality there really is no difference, maybe like 1 db and 0.5c
Alessandro Vignato the f14 is designed for a case fan intake or exhaust. The p14 is for aio or heatsink cooking. You could use either one. For case I went with the f14
i-plan to use the P14 on my 280mm rads, and for anyone who has any experience or insights. I wanted to keep the P14 fans running at a fixed speed (as quiet as possible) on idle/light tasks and just ramp up when I'm gaming, doing heavy workload. Around what until what temps is it okay to keep a steady and quiet rpm on the radiator fans, and if anyone has any experience, around what range is the P14s quiet/barely audible? im, using an NR200 case if that helps Thank you for this vid!
The F fans aren't great, I have an F120 that is about as balanced as a cement mixer (still better than Bitfinex!). I use P14s as these as case fans. Even with filters (3 filtered in, 1 out), they move a good amount of air. I don't need them above 70% (normally 30-60%), so they are quiet. Very good for the price. The only issue is that they're 27mm thick rather than the standard 25mm, which can be a problem on certain mounts. Noctua fans are worth the extra money if you can afford it.
so, wich one is the best for intake and exaust? can i use p12 to intake and cooldown my gpu and f12 to exaust? or can be intake abd exaust with p12? ty
Would the p12 be a good replacement for the cpu cooler hyperx evo 212? One of the fans is crapping out and i would like to replace them. Currently 10 cad on amazon.
Recently I bought a Arctic P12 Silent and P14 Silent Fan. And both Fans are "overtoned" by my piece of garbage bequiet PSU. I also have a 140 Pure Wings 2 Fan, and it is also louder than both Arctics. In fact, the garbage bequiet Fan has a slight rattling sound to it. I bought all three Fans together. Arctic Fans are also 5 bucks cheaper btw, and perform better! This garbage rattling noise of the bequiet fan is the final nail in the coffin. I had many bequiet products, mostly PSUs in the past 20 years. And every single one either died on me, or is simply put, "not silent" at all! For a company that has the audacity to have the word "quiet" in their name, bequiet can go F. themselves permanently!
Well the experience can vary from person to person i guess. I build pcs for a lot of relatives of mine and i used bequiet products a lot in those builds (mostly psu, fans, cases). I have never had any bequiet psu fail on me while beeing very silent compared to other "quality brand" products (some of them are 10+ years old now). Same with their fans. Their support is pretty good too here in germany. Imo the only question is if their products are worth the upprice. I always make that decision based on the budget i have. There are cheaper alternatives which are still very good, but if i have a higher budget i nearly always use some bequiet products. They produce some of the most reliable products i have ever worked with yet.
thinking of getting 2 of the P14 for the front of my meshify c case. They cost $17 in australia, whereas the noctua A14 pwm cost $33. Long term, what is the best choice and why?
When you mount them horizontally you will appreciate "name brand" fans.I have F12 and P12 fans and they rattle like hell after few months mounted in the roof...Noctua SSO bearing is king,woth every penny when monted horizontally.Cheap fans like this do great job only mounted vertically in front of the case and at the rear exhaust.I have 3 x P12 fans in the front and I had to add rubber fab gaskets because they vibrate to much at max RPM.There are better fans out there, I for one will not buy any more cheap Arctic fans.
THIS! My case has six P14 Silents and the only one to rattle was the one mounted in the top towards the rear as an exhaust. EDIT* I opened the fan as seen in this video and poured a drop or two of '3-in-1' oil into the fan bearing and this seems to have fixed the noise for now!
so P14 is better then F14? I have BE QUIET 801 case with 6 x 3 pin fan controller....should i buy P14 3pin regular ones and control them via FAN controller?
I have a f14 dc with an external temp sensor. It is also 3 pin. pin 1 ground, pin 2 is 12v and pin 3 is RPM. I think i gave pin 3 some 12v as well, could this have fried anything internally? The fan doesn't turn faster when the temp sensor is in hot water or hot air....
Yes, it is possible to damage the control IC in the fan this way. A long time ago I accidentally made this mistake on a P12 Pro and it didn't work properly after that. I had to replace the control chip with the stuff from another fan, but it never worked as well again.
THERE IS DIFFERENT TYPE OF FANS ONES WITH MORE BLADES ARE STATIC FANS MEANT TO PRESSURE AIR INTO SMALL AREAS THE LESS BLADES ARE AIRFLOW FANS AND PUSH MORE AIR MEANT FOR EXHAUST
Sorry for the length of the video. It was minimally edited and it's a review of many models. The takeaway is that the P12 and P14 are excellent fans which should be nearly inaudible at PWM less than 65%. The F12 isn't as amazing, in my opinion, but is fine. The F14 models aren't that great, but aren't awful either.
I gave it a try but it didn't pop off so easily. It may as well be the same design, just harder. I didn't take it off to avoid breaking it before making the video.
Memory express if you live in Canada the F12 and the P12 are both 10 bucks and the P14 is $12 because the p14 is the only one in this vid that is 140mm all the rest I think are 120mm
The arctic f12 would be a better case fan as it is optimised for airflow and the p12 is pressure optimised which means that the p12 is better for radiator cooling and the f12 is better at being a high airflow case fan.
misinforming and pointless video. blade doesnt 'pops right off', by doing so you take the blade out the little snap mechanism inside and you are not able to fully put it back in even after you reseat the fan. just compare how thigt the blade sits on brand new fan thats not been disassembled, and how loosely it sits on the on disassembled one. if you do that, your fan will vibrate a lot more (so it will be louder), and it will probably wear a lot faster. these are not meant to be disasembled, by doing so you damage it, so you didnt benchmarked arctic p14 fan, you benchmarked damaged arctic p14 fan.
Thank you for the advice. In the video, I purposefully do not push it all the way in. When I push it firmly, I can hear it "click" into place and rotate without extra bearing noise. I have compared it before and after doing this off camera and the blade indeed sits in the proper location. I still have the same fan used for this, and it still functions fine without producing bearing noise. With this said, you are right that they are probably not meant to be taken apart, but after a few years, when it begins to fail, you can try, since you don't have much to lose at that point.
@@olliger603 PST means PWM Sharing Technology. This means the fan's wire has a second connector on it that lets you connect power and PWM to another fan in parallel.
00:46 - P14
15:44 - F14 Rev1
22:01 - F14 Rev2
24:48 - P12
29:52 - F12 Rev2
It's people like you who are the only hope of humanity
Ty
Heads up for anyone considering these or the Arctic P14 for case fans. I tested the P14's and F14's extensively and went with the F14's. I have a very high end (read: high thermal output) gaming PC inside a Phanteks P500A case. What won me over was for the overall sound and cooling performance. The F14's were just a smidge quieter and of what you could hear, it just had a slightly better sounding hum to it. Cooling performance was also consistently 0.5-1C cooler when comparing PWM% levels between the two at all ranges. I actually really wanted to keep the P14's as they are "newer" and all the reviews praised them highly but I couldn't ignore nor deny the real-world testing performance results of the F14's over the P14's in my case. All in all, you can't really go wrong with either but the F14's also won me over considering they are actually designed for case airflow in mind (which makes sense of the performance edge they had over the P14's as low impedance to airflow case fans as was the case on my Phanteks P500A). I have little doubt the P14's would edge out the F14's for heatsink/radiator cooling and high impedance to airflow cases. To give you an idea of just how low impedence my Phanteks P500A case is, with the side-panel open (so components have easy access to ambient air), running RTX Quake, GPU temp stabalised at 75C. With the side-panel closed and all F14 fans off, GPU temp stabalised at 84C. With the F14's at just 30% PWM (corresponding to ~620 RPM), GPU temp stabalised at 77C (only 2C hotter than open side-panel condition). With the F14's at 100% PWM (corresponding to ~1400 RPM), GPU temp was 74C (only 1C cooler than open side-panel condition). With the P14's @ 30% PWM (corresponding to ~720RPM), GPU temp stabalised at 78C (1C hotter than F14's). With the P14's @ 100% PWM (corresponding to ~1675RPM), GPU temp stabilised at 74.5C (0.5C hotter than for the F14's and only 0.5C cooler than with the side-panel opened condition). I would never normally run the fans at 100% speed but I wanted to see how they two sets of fans compared at all speed ranges and it surprised me how low (only 30% PWM) I could run the fans and get still achieve stellar sound and cooling performance out of them. Anyways, hope this might come of help to someone out there. Oh, one last thing. I think the F14's are using the same internals for the motor and bearing as the P14's. I was concerned over the fact the F14's were released so much further back than the P14's that the internal mechanics/motors would be inferior but seems that is not the case and that they are using the same motor, shaft and bearing.
Appreciate your insightful and helpful comment. I'm also a happy owner of a P500A. Just two quick questions. Did you have front and top dust filters on when you did those tests? What's your fan configuration (I'm assuming 3 front intake, 3 top exhaust and 1 rear exhaust)? Also I really wish F14 had a white version like P14 does (not the black and white version).
That all appreciated, the fact the F12s merely "edge out" the P12s in unrestricted airflow situations is testement to how much the pressure optimisation of the P series comes with so little drawback in airflow. I like the way the industry changed overnight to seeing static pressure as a thing and manufacturers responded with fans that were pretty good at both.
What system do you have? You should never be getting those awful temps in a P500A. What fan layout do you have?
The P14 and F14 both max out at the same CFM (I believe it is 73CFM on the P14 and 74CFM on the F14), however, the P14 has double the static pressure. So it's far better at sucking air through a filter or pushing air through grills, fins and radiators.
That's what made me swap all the fans in my case to P14's. The two in the front are sucking air through a cotton or nylon mesh fabric (no visible holes) and the top has the larger typical holes plus a filter on top that's held on by magnets. The rear is just the typical larger holes for exhaust.
Figured I'd get more flow when it's all said and done by going with the double static pressure version.
If they were just sitting on a table, then the F14 would move the same amount of air at a lower RPM, but as you can hear, they are louder at the lower RPM due to the extra, thinner fan blades.
I dunno. Guess it depends on your case and what you're fans are pushing/pulling through. I know there's no way an F14 could pull the air through my front filters like the P14. I could have mixed it up but there was a good deal on a 5 pack so I just got all P14's.
Really like this in depth video in how the fan sounds at different speeds, exactly what I wanted!
These fans really do blow me away
Ooof
Well, they are supposed to be P for Pressure and F for Flow, so the P's are for rads, air-coolers with dense fin stacks and filtered case intakes, F for unfiltered case intake or exhaust.
8:27 I'm like please stop stop stop it's close enough, oh no 8:29 cringing face
same!! lmfao
same,that is why I check the comment section！
Are you 12?
I'm def team P. I just did a build for a friend in a bequiet 500dx and put 3 p12's in the front, 1 in the rear, and used 2 of the silent wings the case comes with for the top. He can't hear anything, his 5900x is oc'd to 4.2ghz with a Noctua u12a cooling it and he's in love with the build. My personal build also uses a 500dx with a 5900x and Noctua u12a except my cpu is oc'd to 4.4ghz at 1.275. I'm using 5 P14's and I'm in heaven. The sounds is pleasant, when it is that I can even hear it bc no music or what have you. Those P series fans are just excellent. Front and rear fans set to 'performance' mode in the bios while plugged into fan headers on my Asrock x570 Taichi Razer edition. My two top P14's are set to normal in the bios and they are effectively silent. So it's white PWM PST's and I'm extremely happy.
3:05 "Neodidlium magnets" :D
Hi-diddly-ho Neodidlium !
LOL 😂 I notice the same in 2:41
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@@omegaelixir AvE is my dad
I've had a total of 9 of these in my inwin 303. I love the price for what they are worth. They are noticeable above 60% fan speed. Around 1200 rpm. But I use head phones so it's not much to think about when the price of them is unbeatable. Given some AAA fans are like 30$ usd for a single fan. Best in the bizz.
heya. I plan either to get the P12 or the Bionix. Any thoughts about the noise? I want a quiet pc
@@dv2045 if you're looking to save a little bit more just go with f12. But the bionix are definitely in a great price point. Dont over think it. I would just get the f12.
@@ludahfang559 heya again! for silent watercooling a 360 rad would you get the P12 or the Bionix P120? I wont use them at 100% but just silent enough
@@dv2045 It's up to you, if there is a difference in noise between them and you are willing to pay more for something quiet, go with the Bionix ones.
But i don't know if there is much of a difference, haven't seen any comparisons
i very much appreciate you making this video :)
thanks for sharing this i was thinking of getting these fans
very good fans
Just bought 2 of the Artic P14 140mm fans to replace the worn out fans on my Corsair H115i 280mm Radiator, hopefully they will do the job well. thanks for posting this interesting video, thumbed up :)
I'm thinking of doing the exact same, the fans are way too loud above 1000rpm. How did it work out?
@@KloVnPT I ended up buying the artic freezer II CPU cooler 240mm radiator version as my Corsair H115i had a terrible pump noise, think the pump was dying tbh. Anyway the freezer II fits perfectly in the front of the case i bought (fractal define 7 black / white version). So technically i now have 4 artic fans in my case 2 x140mm at top of case helping blow out the hot air, and 2x120mm on the radiator sucking cold air in the front of the case. My 3900x now idles as low as 30c depending on room temp.
@@lee__1707 Yeah I'll buy 2 of those for the H115i and extra 2 to replace the default NZXT fans that came with the case.
One more question, is it worth to order some rubber mounts or are they quiet enough?
I really need some quiet fans, my pc is right next to my left ear and I use open-back headphones
@@KloVnPT You cant go wrong with rubber screw mounts you can get a bag of 20 of them off amazon for cheap. peace of mind you will have a quiet setup no matter what. I do find mine quiet but my pc is under a desk at my feet, if yours is up next to your head get the rubber mounts too, you might not need them but peace of mind like i say
Not sure what you are looking for but you will never find a truly silent fan that pushes any kind of useful airflow. I switched to these after my Corsair LL120's started flickering like nuts and I refused to pay another 80 bux for em. The Arctic P14 PWM Pst fans went onto my Evga clc280 and 3 Arctic Bionix f140's freshen up the rest of my Define R6 and I must say couldn't be happier. The p14's are 100 times quiter than my EVGA 140's that were stock with the cooler and even on high at the front of the case it's a pleasant whirr instead of the Jet engine sounds from the EVGA fans. The other 3 aren't even audible at normal auto sppeds. If I ramp them up to full (Which in normal use will NEVER EVER happen) you can hear them but it's not loud enough to be distracting or bothersome. I'll buy Arctic in the future. The New chromax lineup from Noctua is another solid choice for Flow and sound concerns and in my experience are just a tad quieter than these but at a few hundred rpms less.
Ya man the 5 packs for $25-$30 there awesome. Price to performance to noise ratio is great. Once properly mounted they are nice. I choose these for the reasons listed before. Also this fan has be dissembled so take that for what you will. I love corsair mag lev fans but $20-33 each just not worth it unless you have no cash filter. Ive built rigs for people with only p series fans for everything and its awesome.
Arctic P12 PWM is on it's way, hopefully it will be good fan for my 212 EVO.
I also ordered F12 PWM PST CO (Dual Ball Bearing) to test them as a top exhaust fan, but I guess I will give it a shot as a CPU fan... if P12 was noisy.
how are they?
very useful review
Thanks for the test; recently got 3x p14 for the chassis airflow, and now i am thinking to also get p12 to switch cpu fan (it started doin significant vibration on 1.100+ RPM after more or less 4 years of usage, model is cooler master 120 ab), was curious how good it is (since be quiet pure wing 2 cost about the same $ here, according to some other test that i found - be! does slightly more noise while producing the same amount of air pressure). Guess i cant go wrong with arctic in this price category :)
Talking about p14 - i didnt notice any vibration at all (i added antivibro pads while was "screwing" it to the case tho), at 650 rpm or lower it also doesnt produce any significant noise id say :)
I have some Arctic F12 and consider them to be too noisy to use. I might consider the P14, but my budget option lately has been the Noctua Redux series. Maybe the P14 would be a good case fan and I will put the Redux on my radiator.
You sure it's the 4-pin f12? because the 4-pin f12 is superduper quiet with lower rpms. The 3-pin f12 was too loud.
Why does nobody else go into this level of detail? I feel like I've been getting nothing but hints on UA-cam but suddenly someone's giving actual details.
Bought a pack of 5 for the same price of a Noctua NF-A12x25, though I will be purchasing a black (Chromax) version of it next year when it comes out Q1 2021.
ARCTIC P12 PWM PST Value Pack is pretty good for the performance/value/silence.
How do you like them
thank you for sharing
Helpful video, big fan here
8:30 I jumped back lol
Me too!
gracias por tu trabajo, me quedo con el p12
YOOO OMG, YOU'RE FROM CALGARY TOO!!? , I just bought my custom pc, in about a month now, here at memory express North east! :)
I'm from Vancouver, BC actually haha
Which 120mm fan would you recommend replacing in the 500 watt deepcool power supply ? the native fan makes sounds as if the train is knocking the wheels on the rails
People been praising these p14 as the best fans ever. Better than be quiet, noctua, everything... Now that's suspicious and makes me squint
They are not. Sadly the P12 ( P14 also ) start very fast to gather dust ...and start making weird sounds in a few months . Over time they are louder that the F12. / F12 are quieter in the long run. If Artcic could fix the design of the P12 they could be the best. There is P12 PWM PST CO ( from continuous operation ) that have some special 2 ball japanese bearings that could be the solution to the problem but i have not tested it.
thought about getting these, caus they where cheap and got some good numbers. But if they got vibrations, it does not matter how quiet they run, they will make a shit ton of noise when in a case.
I have these and they are loud, you habe to keep them very low rpm
I have the P14's and 3 P12's (on a radiator). They are very quiet, little to no noise at all unless running at higher RPMs.
But then, I do mount them using silicone mounting "screws" so...
Which one would you recommend for a mini itx case? I'm planning on using 2 and I prefer lower noise to preformance.
the f12 is a airflow type fan. i personally only F series foe exhaust purpose because i always have exhaust lower then intake to create a slightly positive airflow. so i set my F series to run at 25% slower then my P series which is basically the rest of the P series. to be safe stick to P and you wont go wrong.
What are you using to control the speed of the fans?
This really thorough test. I have 4 of P14's in my Define R6, they are pretty good but can you suggest anything better soundwise (running them from PWM hub)?
General noise troubleshooting: 1)Buzzing, clacking, clicking: Use rubber fan mounts instead of fan screws 2)Fans running faster than needed: Use PWM splitters (either chain Y splitters or get a 4way) (or buy the PST version) to split the PWM control signal between all fans
The fans will run as long as the PWM is >5%. You do not need to 'kickstart' them, as this will happen automatically from the IC inside the fan.
@@liminalsunset Im experiencing more like air chuffing sound. Kind of low frequency huffing. Maybe I need to tweak the fan curves, altough at the same time I wish to maintain my current all around system temps.
@@fobaa You may want to check that the grille/radiator/heat sync the fan is mounted to is not too restrictive. Also, make sure there's nothing (filter, heat sync, grille, etc) too close to the intake. What speed are you running the fans at?
@@liminalsunset actually further inspection revealed I have too damn loud HDDs. And maybe CPU coolers
@@fobaa Try to disconnect the devices in your system and run one at a time to isolate the noise source. HDDs may benefit from resilient mounting to absorb vibrations that may transmit to the case, or alternatively, can be powered off when not used or changed with SSD.
Great review! Seems that the Bionix P120 is the only alternative to the Noctua NF-A12 with (around) the same noise/performance
Noctua NF-A12 costs more than 4 times than these Arctic pressure optimised fans.
And they don't spin faster than 700-800 rpm in real life use for me so noise is not an issue.
Nice review but Arctic claims that the amps for the F12 fan is 0.24 A @ 12V, but you had only 0.07 A @ 11.7V so is it really working at it's full potential during your test ?
It's likely that the current rating printed on the back of the fan is the "safety" current; the maximum current the fan is able to pull, with the fan blades locked or under significant backpressure (unsure of exact specification of UL standard)/when it is starting, and not the "nominal" current. Some fans have both ratings printed on the back for this reason.
Great video dude!
So not the best, but not too bad. Especially at 70%~ Fan speed, seems like a good balance of airflow and quiet. Heck, they're cheap when on sale. I was able to get a P12 for $6.99 to test. It is very quiet at 70% while decent amount of air. Sure, it's not a noctua, but it costs less than half the price.
I can buy 5 artics for one noctua...
Hi, what are you using to control the fan speed? Good View!
He just changes the voltage
@@tinperger9248 Not when you use a pwm signal.
I have them in my 280mm liquid freezer when i installed the cooler i forgot to peel the plastic of the logo when i started to peel the fan just moves down a bit the when reduce the pressure goes back to the frame of the fan and then i use my other hand to support the fan thats normal right ? they work i didn't damaged them ? i talk about p14 btw
Tried the Arctic P14 based on the many reviews of it saying its the most silent fan..Bought a set of 5 bundle, and put 3 into my case. Well I already noticed something was bad when I took them out of the case. The fan plastic is very hard and it makes a sound when you flick it with a finger, just like a wine glass does.. So to no surprise when 3 of them spin up side by side, they begin to "sing". Resonance overload! They simply begin to whine at the frequency that the plastic resonates at, due to it being very hard. Fans need to be somewhat flexible and more rubber like to not resonate.
So due to the resonance, the arctic fans are the most loud fans I ever tried.
-never test fans one by one, you need multiple to check if they resonate inside the case.
Use silicone gaskets!
By far they are the best and if you pair them with GT they are sick!
how did you just pop it off like that? I can't get mine to come apart.
me too, i pushed too strong, and broke the fan,but it dont came apart
Yh, have the exact same fan and can't remove the fan blades neither. Gave a dislike because apparently "it pops right off".
Good fan. Great price.
Hey! I have such fans in my pc is it okay if i dissasemble them to clean them better? And also for my cpu fan is it ok to pop it off the housing, like they won’t get damaged or anything (sorry for the stupid question)
I do not recommend disassembling them to clean them, but rather to use a soft bristle brush to brush the dust off the surfaces lightly. It does a very good job.
@@liminalsunset ok thank you
Similar input for the Noctua Industrial line up would be interesting. Those are like 3 times more expensive than those.
p14 were newer but I would chose f14 for heat sink anyday.
hi friend, may i ask you where did you buy and what is the name of that pwm fan control product?
what is quietest 140mm fan and best one to keep temp down too ? need back exhaust fan !
My Motherboard is an old Intel 67BL which only have two PWM (4PIN) fan ports, one for the back, & another one in front. I already have two Corsair ML140 140mm PWM (4PIN) Fans that am using in my PC case/cabinet Now, in order to create a 5 PWM PST fans Daisy chain, can I connect my two Corsair ML140 MM PWM (NON-PST) FAN with my three Arctic P14 PWM PST CO 140MM FAN? If yes then what should be the order?
nice mate, thanks!
currently thinking about having 3 f12's in the front for intake 1 in the back for exhaust and 2 p14's for my h115i radiator on top as exhaust, ideas or suggestions?
Sounds like a good choice. I just go full P12/14 but I doubt it makes much difference
@@smugmode I just went with f series for intake and 1 exhaust because they are airflow optimized while p series are static pressure optimized so its just made the most sense. in reality there really is no difference, maybe like 1 db and 0.5c
What would you recommend, F14 or P14 as a case fan?
Alessandro Vignato the f14 is designed for a case fan intake or exhaust. The p14 is for aio or heatsink cooking. You could use either one. For case I went with the f14
@@bellabugs F14 for power supply will be better?
Іван Денищич Most power supply’s have their own fan unless you’re going to mod it, I recommend the P series for that.
i-plan to use the P14 on my 280mm rads, and for anyone who has any experience or insights. I wanted to keep the P14 fans running at a fixed speed (as quiet as possible) on idle/light tasks and just ramp up when I'm gaming, doing heavy workload.
Around what until what temps is it okay to keep a steady and quiet rpm on the radiator fans, and if anyone has any experience, around what range is the P14s quiet/barely audible?
im, using an NR200 case if that helps
Thank you for this vid!
Five pack P12 is 23$ so it's dirt cheap for performance.
I read the P12 and P14 are designed for radiators and cpu coolers. Will you recommend these instead of the F12 and F14 for a case fan use.
The F fans aren't great, I have an F120 that is about as balanced as a cement mixer (still better than Bitfinex!).
I use P14s as these as case fans. Even with filters (3 filtered in, 1 out), they move a good amount of air. I don't need them above 70% (normally 30-60%), so they are quiet. Very good for the price. The only issue is that they're 27mm thick rather than the standard 25mm, which can be a problem on certain mounts. Noctua fans are worth the extra money if you can afford it.
so, wich one is the best for intake and exaust? can i use p12 to intake and cooldown my gpu and f12 to exaust? or can be intake abd exaust with p12? ty
which is better for case fan P or F?
Would the p12 be a good replacement for the cpu cooler hyperx evo 212? One of the fans is crapping out and i would like to replace them. Currently 10 cad on amazon.
Sure, they should work well for this purpose.
Recently I bought a Arctic P12 Silent and P14 Silent Fan. And both Fans are "overtoned" by my piece of garbage bequiet PSU.
I also have a 140 Pure Wings 2 Fan, and it is also louder than both Arctics. In fact, the garbage bequiet Fan has a slight rattling sound to it. I bought all three Fans together. Arctic Fans are also 5 bucks cheaper btw, and perform better!
This garbage rattling noise of the bequiet fan is the final nail in the coffin. I had many bequiet products, mostly PSUs in the past 20 years. And every single one either died on me, or is simply put, "not silent" at all! For a company that has the audacity to have the word "quiet" in their name, bequiet can go F. themselves permanently!
Well the experience can vary from person to person i guess. I build pcs for a lot of relatives of mine and i used bequiet products a lot in those builds (mostly psu, fans, cases). I have never had any bequiet psu fail on me while beeing very silent compared to other "quality brand" products (some of them are 10+ years old now). Same with their fans. Their support is pretty good too here in germany. Imo the only question is if their products are worth the upprice. I always make that decision based on the budget i have. There are cheaper alternatives which are still very good, but if i have a higher budget i nearly always use some bequiet products. They produce some of the most reliable products i have ever worked with yet.
thinking of getting 2 of the P14 for the front of my meshify c case. They cost $17 in australia, whereas the noctua A14 pwm cost $33. Long term, what is the best choice and why?
long term ball bearing is best.. so look fore PST CO variants of Arctic
is arctic p 12 good to replace old noctua nf u 12 p fans ? i ordered 5 of these to my case and noctua heatsink
please tell me if they're quiet
@@ninjatall15 i will
@@Arejen03 they any good?
@@Arejen03 soo are they quiet?
@@Arejen03 I hope the fans are as quiet as you
what is the best arctic fan 120mm for presure in big case please :) ?
Probably the most expensive blow I'll ever get 😂
does the p12 do enough airflow or is the f12 better for that matter?
According the video, the P12 seems to have better airflow than the F12, and it's quieter
What’s quieter? P12 or P14?
P14 is going to be quieter for the same airflow rate.
Thx
Thank you Larry
When you mount them horizontally you will appreciate "name brand" fans.I have F12 and P12 fans and they rattle like hell after few months mounted in the roof...Noctua SSO bearing is king,woth every penny when monted horizontally.Cheap fans like this do great job only mounted vertically in front of the case and at the rear exhaust.I have 3 x P12 fans in the front and I had to add rubber fab gaskets because they vibrate to much at max RPM.There are better fans out there, I for one will not buy any more cheap Arctic fans.
THIS! My case has six P14 Silents and the only one to rattle was the one mounted in the top towards the rear as an exhaust.
EDIT* I opened the fan as seen in this video and poured a drop or two of '3-in-1' oil into the fan bearing and this seems to have fixed the noise for now!
so P14 is better then F14? I have BE QUIET 801 case with 6 x 3 pin fan controller....should i buy P14 3pin regular ones and control them via FAN controller?
For a case fan, you want the high airflow f14's and for radiators, you want the p14's as they are high-pressure fans
I have a f14 dc with an external temp sensor. It is also 3 pin. pin 1 ground, pin 2 is 12v and pin 3 is RPM. I think i gave pin 3 some 12v as well, could this have fried anything internally? The fan doesn't turn faster when the temp sensor is in hot water or hot air....
Yes, it is possible to damage the control IC in the fan this way. A long time ago I accidentally made this mistake on a P12 Pro and it didn't work properly after that. I had to replace the control chip with the stuff from another fan, but it never worked as well again.
@@liminalsunset Thanks, the shop sent a new fan. I will receive it tomorrow, should do the trick.
$4 per fan here, in a 5-pack
For the simple 3 wire ones right? The PWM ones are a bit more expensive.
@@magicmarger Checking now it's like $4.4 for 3-pin and $4.8 for 4-pin
@@thelazyduck9370 oh fuck me over, I just paid around 10€ for a 4pin one.
(Pretty much the cheapest one incl. shipping that I could get here)
THERE IS DIFFERENT TYPE OF FANS ONES WITH MORE BLADES ARE STATIC FANS MEANT TO PRESSURE AIR INTO SMALL AREAS
THE LESS BLADES ARE AIRFLOW FANS AND PUSH MORE AIR
MEANT FOR EXHAUST
nah, its not working that way bro, check the design of most static pressure fans and you'll see
Other way around lol
You can’t say the any fan is bad considering your sample size of ONE fan, you will get a dud every once and a while.
i personally dont care about quiet fans. unless they sound very very loud thats when it bothers me
Which do you recommend for a PC case, P12 or F12 (I need airflow)?
P12 should be better , I've ordered both P14 and F14 , will see
I've seen a review from the german guy " Der8auer " and P14 is top notch , P12 not that much but still good.
Happy I chose that :)
Andrea Thks, I will chose P12 because y cant aford the P14 and my case only supports 120mm, but thks.
How are the BioniX compared to these normal fans?
Essentially same fan, different color
8:31 that hurt :))
Thanks for the video. Very long though!
Where can I find the conclusion about the F12 and P12 please?
Thanks
Sorry for the length of the video. It was minimally edited and it's a review of many models.
The takeaway is that the P12 and P14 are excellent fans which should be nearly inaudible at PWM less than 65%. The F12 isn't as amazing, in my opinion, but is fine. The F14 models aren't that great, but aren't awful either.
@@liminalsunset very good. Thanks Larry
Where does the air come out from?the side with the sticker or the one without the sticker
the side without the sticker
Most fans pull air in from the front (where the sticker is), and push it out the back (where the crossbars are).
What's the quietest PC fan you ever heard?
Steve Jobs
P14 vs F14 which one is best?
Tbh I'd say P14
Depends on use. F14 is case fans for max air flow. P14 is pressurized flow for radiators and heat sinks.
@@astroboy2345 ARCTIC P14 Value Pack case fan
P12 will perform better than uphere rgb fans right?
Yes, uphere is a cheap chinese brand
how long are the cables for p12 and f12 ??
These fans still alive after 2 years?
My Antec ML 140 case fans are at 37dB and I hate my life. They are so loud. Help!
P12 or F12 for watercolling?
P12 is more suitable for water cooling because its pressure is higher
if that p140 make some noise than my deltafans are mostly like a rocket
Anyone know if the P12 fan blade pops off as easily as the P14? I want to clean and grease the bearing on mine...
I gave it a try but it didn't pop off so easily. It may as well be the same design, just harder. I didn't take it off to avoid breaking it before making the video.
@@liminalsunset thanks. I gave up anyway
If I want to use the p12 for intake do I monunt it sticker side or no
There is arrows on the fan that tell you airflow direction
Why 41 minutes bro?!!
Many fan reviews on UA-cam are about 10 minutes long. This is a review of five fans. With this said, I will try to edit future videos down. Thanks!
why the fuck not?!!
So which one to buy? I need two of these
Depends. Definitely prefer 140mm over 120mm and personally prefer P over F.
Larry thanks, my old corsair fans gets loud when they crank up
Larry can I use the P version as intake and exhaust on the case?
F12 is unbelievably loud. wouldn't recommend. I have 4 running in my PC and it sounds like an airplane.
You mean too loud at full speed ? your motherboard should be able to adjust the speed to the load
JAJAJAJAJA YES
Where did you buy the P14 for $12.00 ?
Memory express if you live in Canada the F12 and the P12 are both 10 bucks and the P14 is $12 because the p14 is the only one in this vid that is 140mm all the rest I think are 120mm
shut up so we can hear them
and put the mic closer
p12 is it good for case fans ?
sure, why not
The arctic f12 would be a better case fan as it is optimised for airflow and the p12 is pressure optimised which means that the p12 is better for radiator cooling and the f12 is better at being a high airflow case fan.
@@fastflight2494 P12 should also be better for airflow through filters.
p series sıvı soğutma için f series kasa soğutma için üretilen ürünler
misinforming and pointless video. blade doesnt 'pops right off', by doing so you take the blade out the little snap mechanism inside and you are not able to fully put it back in even after you reseat the fan. just compare how thigt the blade sits on brand new fan thats not been disassembled, and how loosely it sits on the on disassembled one. if you do that, your fan will vibrate a lot more (so it will be louder), and it will probably wear a lot faster. these are not meant to be disasembled, by doing so you damage it, so you didnt benchmarked arctic p14 fan, you benchmarked damaged arctic p14 fan.
Thank you for the advice. In the video, I purposefully do not push it all the way in. When I push it firmly, I can hear it "click" into place and rotate without extra bearing noise. I have compared it before and after doing this off camera and the blade indeed sits in the proper location. I still have the same fan used for this, and it still functions fine without producing bearing noise.
With this said, you are right that they are probably not meant to be taken apart, but after a few years, when it begins to fail, you can try, since you don't have much to lose at that point.
I *think* this is as close to a Noctua clone as they could get without a lawsuit.
Not even close you might want to look at the new thermaltake fan lmao and you would want to sue noctua for 'copying' the gentle typhoon then as well
No quantitative testing of any kind. Useless video.
what is better the p or f fans?
I prefer the P fans overall
Are these p12 pwm or p12 pwm pst fans?
These are P12 PWM, non PST. However, I suspect the fan itself is the same. I don't expect to need to review the PST feature seperately.
@@liminalsunset what does pst mean😇😅
@@olliger603 PST means PWM Sharing Technology. This means the fan's wire has a second connector on it that lets you connect power and PWM to another fan in parallel.
@@liminalsunset thanks!
Man what do you expect as you increase the voltage bro wow,!!