I remember when I first came up with my idle up technique idea in early 2014 and people said I was being silly. They started taking notice after a while though :)
+FinalGlideAus ... and now it has led to Boris developing "Air Mode", which by all accounts is the Next Amazing Big Thing in acro flight. All because you had the idea for Idle Up.
+FinalGlideAus Great idea! I decided to do the same thing when I first started FPV earlier this year only because I didn't like losing stabilization and/or control of the copter at min throttle. Now we have air mode, sweet!
Key points - turn on idle up, or in Cleanflight turn off motor stop and turn on PID at min throttle so that you can drop throttle to zero and still have PID authority as you are floating up (after hard punchup) and then free falling back down.
You are literally the only person who ever asked that my "how to float" video be LONGER ;-) I think this is what you are looking for: ua-cam.com/play/PLwoDb7WF6c8mT1TB0iKaiUWRUVoT0Kk8O.html
This video rang so true when I was first getting into this. I didn't understand, and I was too afraid to ask, thanks for clearing that up for me way back when Joshua!
You can also see on Steele's OSD, his motor amps first skyrocket (for the punch), and then drop to near-zero (for the "float") until he catches himself at the end of the move with normal amperage.
For a rookie like myself that is ready to take the next step. You're right getting the guts to kill the motors and just float isn't easy, especially after all the problems I had with my past 2 quads. Anyways, this video really has helped me understand what it's gonna take to get to the next level.
One thing I don't see mentioned is that Steele uses 3 blade propellers. This is alot of surface area. When you keep them idling and you are falling you have a brake effect. Instead of air rushing past them they are blocking some of it slowing the descent. This is the same idea why gliders have folding props. Because a freewheeling prop will slow you down. Also why on a airplane if you run a large prop that it helps slow you down on final but if you dead stick in your plane glides much faster. Not to mention in this case by idling the motors are faster to spin back up to save you when you need to flip back instead of the huge current draw from a dead stop. Great video! Just wanted to mention this concept. :^)
that explains why they test the go-up-fast feature so often .. this is no different to an orbital roller coaster ride where you can experience zero-g.. good to know .. thanks!
great vid. running D shot I assume will help since it idles the motors down so slowly. Im really looking forward to trying these moves out with my 2 new builds.
they don't use idle up anymore they are using beta flight and "air Mode" now! And motors may have to be higher then idle, some quads will become unstable at such a low idle
+MrEklectic FWIW, I still use idle up for exactly the reason you say. When I chop the throttle suddenly, my copter is briefly destabilized. So I use idle up to keep the throttle slightly higher when I chop it. This is even with Air Mode active.
+Rodrigo Larenas idle up is similar but air mode is superior IMO. Air mode only increases the throttle set point when additional authority is actually required. Idle up increases the set point all the time.
When you use ur idle up method, Do you still have motor Stop disabled? My motors sunnysky 2204 with bl20a Start at around 1150, isnt that a little bit to high to use the idle up method on the taranis?
+skatebjarne If you have idle up active, then motor stop doesn't matter. Motor stop takes effect when the throttle goes below min_check. When idle up is active, the throttle never goes below min_check. Regarding your second question, you are confusing min_throttle, which is an throttle value that is OUTPUT from the FC to the ESC, with min_check, which is an stick position value that is INPUT from the receiver to the FC. When idle up is active, the INPUT stick position stays above min_check. This will cause your motors to spin slightly faster than min_throttle, whatever min_throttle happens to be. When you set up your idle up "DIFF" value, set it so that the throttle channel just barely exceeds min_check, NOT min_throttle. So for example, a typical configuration might be min_check=1050 and min_throttle=1150. You would set up your idle up DIFF value so that the throttle channel stayed above 1055 or 1060. This would cause the motors to idle at, perhaps 1155 or 1160.
+skatebjarne BTW, my personal preference is currently to run motor_stop active, and idle up also active. This means that during normal flight, the motors act as if motor_stop was disabled. But if I am working on the bench, I can flip a switch on my transmitter to disable idle up, which allows me to arm the copter without spinning the motors, for troubleshooting purposes.
+Joshua Bardwell ahhh ok. thanks for your help! this explanation helps me a lot. I think i have to try it out and play with the values. to get it right.
+Jacky Heshi What happens when you crash then? You destroy your props and almost certainly ruin your motors too. You could do this but you'd have to have a kill switch of some sort or you wouldn't even be able to pick up the quad after a crash.
+Joshua Bardwell guess that depends on the receiver and/or config. I have a radio link and you arm by holding left stick to the bottom right and disarm by leaving throttle at 0 for a few seconds.
Hi thenukeman, I use the hq triblades 5040 like mr steel and the kingkong triblades 5040 when i know i wil go crashing. But my problem is fixed i bought the Kiss fc and Kiss esc's. the biggest problem Where the esc. Thx for your intrest Kind regards Michel
Sorry. Im being a little slow here. When do you use air mode? ARM-switch to start flying, then do a punch up, switch on air mode, float, and then regain 'control' and flip off air mode? Or is Air Mode just the opposite of ARM, as in "Parked gear" or "Drive gear"?
Air Mode shouldn't really be called a flight mode. It's a Feature. It's a change to the mixer logic that increases authority at low throttle. I just leave it on all the time. In my opinion, it's how the mixer should have worked to begin with. ua-cam.com/video/d2nRrVENEYM/v-deo.html
Joshua Bardwell I believe I understand now! If I got this, Air mode means the motors are allowed to ask for more power than given by throttle. English is not my main language, so I'm just using simple words. Thank you for helping!
Hi mr bardwell i have a little question. from the moment i flip my quad 90° upside down (after a throttle punch) my PID (i think ) stop the upward float motion. do you know what this can be ? or is it maybe the fc or esc i'm using? FC is the seriously pro racing f3 the esc i don't know what brand they are . the plan is to swap the FC to a naze 32 kind regards Michel
+Michel Van Camp make sure min_throttle is not too high. Make sure you are lowering the throttle all the way. If your copter is heavy, lighten it. Punch harder to go up faster.
So I'm just sort of getting into (FPV) i have been flying since September, Manly just aerial filming i have the Xk Detect X380 for that and the Syma x8c but my starter quad was the syma x5sw FPV wifi edition and the syma x8c. but i just ordered the Stock Fpv kit for my x380 and i ordered a xk 250 alien with FPV and i got the Xk airdancer x350 and i ordered the Fpv kit for it as well. I thought that flying the xk airdancer x350 with fpv would be really cool since it has both 3d and 6d mode to fly upside down. But to get into racing or just have a really fast racing quad what can you recommend for me to buy to have a fast really fast quad.
+Andy Shaffer The fastest copters are light, and have a very small aerodynamic profile. Look to the Krieger and the Shrike if ultimate speed is your goal. But they are some of the most difficult to build because they are so small and compact, and if you are not an experienced builder, I don't recommend them. The next step up would be a 210 size frame like a QAV210 or an Alien 5". If you want to, you can find much cheaper Chinese knock-offs of these frames from Banggood--your call where you want to put your money. The 210 size frame will have worse aerodynamics than the "Pure X" style frames, but can still be very fast. I can't stress enough the importance of light weight when building a racer. With light weight, you can go to higher-kv (lower torque) motors and still not suffer a handling penalty. This increases acceleration and top speed. You also need high-C-rating batteries that can feed your motors without sagging, but unfortunately, marketing numbers mean nothing, and practical test results are few and far between. Don't just buy a battery with a ridiculous C-rating on the label because it's probably BS. There isn't really a simple answer as to what goes into a really fast quad, but this should get you started.
Absolutely yes i will look in to that i thought about getting this Eachine racer 250 Amazon has it for 189.00 with prime so Yes i figure something like that just to start out on and yes they have the kits to build your own the way you want it. and i was planning on doing something like that with my G.P.S quads but like you said. Flying yes is one thing but building your own is altogrther different that like waiting for strike 3 at half time in the super bowl totally different but yes I'm going to just get something like the eachine 250 for now until later then ill know more about what I'm going to need to build my quad like what is the best size motor for a certain amount of weight i don't know how they calibrate themselves. or if that's done manually? with these flyers.
Andy Shaffer The best thing you can do is look at what pro pilots are flying. There is no single best answer for what motor and prop to pick. If there were, everybody would fly that. But there are definitely combinations that do NOT work well--for example, an 1806 motor will probably lack the torque to spin a 5045BN prop very effectively. A 2208 motor would be bad to pair with a very small 4045 prop. Etc... If in doubt, look at what the pros are flying, or look at high-end ARF or RTF kits and copy them. But definitely do your research. The Vortex RTF 250 copter came with 1806 motors, which were not really the highest-performing at the time it came out.
That's very true. Just from your personal experience in using different propellers, Some say that propellers when in balance can increase speed, flight time, and the life of your motors. Increasing the life of your motors sounds about right. The speed however I'm not sure. i just put Dji 9450 self locking propellers on my x380 and to me the new propellers seem to increase speed by a little bit they are a half inch longer and made different from the stock ones, so it may be possible to increases speed a little i would presume. And flight time, so if the propellers are in balance and the motors are running smother then once again i guess its possible it could increase the flight time by a little bit also couldn't hurt it none anyway. but yes i want to build something later on from scratch well not entirely from scratch i thought about ordering all the parts and transmitter i would need and build one out of conduit of cpvc plastic pipe i have seen a couple other design's made similar.
I've seen others and also been doing this LOS for years, not sure why it's considered new if it's fpv. Good explanation but about 6 minutes too long to describe cutting the throttle and disabling motor stop (cheating way) :)
True, I see your a helination listener, hi :). It's also true that if you don't check my quad videos you won't see it either will you? Not sure how cutting the throttle during a flip is considered difficult to believe when I post quads doing piroflip reversals but more power to you for being creative. I may be new to fpv but quad flying is my roots, might need to check back further than the last 5 videos :)
HEYYYYYYY WELCOME TO THE CHANNEL THIS IS JOSHUA BARDWELL AND YOU'RE GOING TO LEARN SOMETHING TODAY. TODAY, I'M GOING TO BE TALKING ABOUT WHY I GO ON AND ON AND ON AND ON AND OVER-EXPLAIN THINGS UNTIL YOU'RE BORED AND YOU KIND OF WANT TO CLOSE THE WINDOW, BUT SOMEHOW YOU KEEP WATCHING UNTIL IT'S DONE AND THEN YOU'RE LIKE FUCK, WHAT DID I JUST WATCH WHY DOESN'T THIS GUY GET TO THE POINT AND THEN INSTEAD OF CLOSING THE WINDOW YOU LIKE LEAVE A COMMENT AND YOU'RE LIKE DUDE JUST PLAY THE VIDEO WE GET IT AND THEN I GO INTO THE COMMENTS SECTION AND LEAVE A LONG COMMENT DESCRIBING THE WHOLE INTERACTION WHICH YOU PROBABLY READ THE WHOLE THING GOTCHA SUCKA! happy flying!
I discover this video 5 years later and it seems completely crazy to me that this kind of maneuver was at that point so revolutionary.
As an Aussie, I am an expert at inverted flying as we are always upside down.
Yeh I don't really know how to fly "the right way up" its tricky
Callum Fitzpatrick Lol
I remember when I first came up with my idle up technique idea in early 2014 and people said I was being silly. They started taking notice after a while though :)
I loved it from the minute I heard of it.
I always try to give you credit when people attribute it to me.
+FinalGlideAus its my favorite part of your flying, you are the first i remember seeing do it. trailbalzer!
+FinalGlideAus ... and now it has led to Boris developing "Air Mode", which by all accounts is the Next Amazing Big Thing in acro flight. All because you had the idea for Idle Up.
+FinalGlideAus Great idea! I decided to do the same thing when I first started FPV earlier this year only because I didn't like losing stabilization and/or control of the copter at min throttle. Now we have air mode, sweet!
isnt it amazing we look back on the days this was a topic and now we dont even think about doing this
Key points - turn on idle up, or in Cleanflight turn off motor stop and turn on PID at min throttle so that you can drop throttle to zero and still have PID authority as you are floating up (after hard punchup) and then free falling back down.
Was having problem with my quad. But I got it figured out and tested the idle up in the garage. Awww man can't wait to fly it for real.
thanks for the breakdown of the procedure.
we need more of these tutorials . but with more details. wish someone could do such videos but with all details.
You are literally the only person who ever asked that my "how to float" video be LONGER ;-)
I think this is what you are looking for: ua-cam.com/play/PLwoDb7WF6c8mT1TB0iKaiUWRUVoT0Kk8O.html
this is exactly what i was searching for... thank you so much .. i will watch full playlist.
cheers
enjoyed this and your coordinated turns video. Had a basic understanding but it's good to dive deep into the how and why.
This video rang so true when I was first getting into this.
I didn't understand, and I was too afraid to ask, thanks for clearing that up for me way back when Joshua!
Cleanflight CLI 'gravity_attenuation = 1' also helps
"Bravery and skill." Nice delivery, Josh o/
You can also see on Steele's OSD, his motor amps first skyrocket (for the punch), and then drop to near-zero (for the "float") until he catches himself at the end of the move with normal amperage.
For a rookie like myself that is ready to take the next step. You're right getting the guts to kill the motors and just float isn't easy, especially after all the problems I had with my past 2 quads. Anyways, this video really has helped me understand what it's gonna take to get to the next level.
One thing I don't see mentioned is that Steele uses 3 blade propellers. This is alot of surface area. When you keep them idling and you are falling you have a brake effect. Instead of air rushing past them they are blocking some of it slowing the descent. This is the same idea why gliders have folding props. Because a freewheeling prop will slow you down. Also why on a airplane if you run a large prop that it helps slow you down on final but if you dead stick in your plane glides much faster. Not to mention in this case by idling the motors are faster to spin back up to save you when you need to flip back instead of the huge current draw from a dead stop. Great video! Just wanted to mention this concept. :^)
Most excellent video! Video of the day to be sure. A great explanation, should make it easy for people to understand "witchcraft".
just came across your channel from /r/multicopter cool stuff and great vid!
It's so cool when loose video and disarm but then get it back and rearm before you hit the ground
Great video JB... Thanks for sharing...
I use a 3 pos switch idle off, idle up just off neutral, idle up two set a little higher for more hang
Thanks for the explanation its been getting a tad expensive when the board re-sets after a throttle cut in mid air :)
+Breathe - RC Gotta do something to keep the motors spinning. Unlike a fixed-wing, you can't glide a multirotor!
Joshua Bardwell yep i found that out the hard way many times lol
that explains why they test the go-up-fast feature so often .. this is no different to an orbital roller coaster ride where you can experience zero-g.. good to know .. thanks!
and then airmode came along...
MTL Racing ha. true
great video helps us newbies out:)
Great explanation man, thanks!!! let's practice an break some stuff!!!
great vid. running D shot I assume will help since it idles the motors down so slowly. Im really looking forward to trying these moves out with my 2 new builds.
Nice man.. Greats explaination.. just start to follow your channel... :))
+Afiz Dozo Thanks for the sub.
they don't use idle up anymore they are using beta flight and "air Mode" now! And motors may have to be higher then idle, some quads will become unstable at such a low idle
+MrEklectic FWIW, I still use idle up for exactly the reason you say. When I chop the throttle suddenly, my copter is briefly destabilized. So I use idle up to keep the throttle slightly higher when I chop it. This is even with Air Mode active.
if you notice the amp drop is like you said ,he cut - then do it.
I'm new to flying one month now but this is how I have taught myself how to do flips ect. I'm not a pro by any means.
Great info, thanks a lot!!! Aloha!!!
thanks!
respect joshua ! A+++
Hi Josh! question:
"Idle-up" could be something like "Air Mode" in CF?
Congrats your videos are just great!!
+Rodrigo Larenas idle up is similar but air mode is superior IMO. Air mode only increases the throttle set point when additional authority is actually required. Idle up increases the set point all the time.
Joshua Bardwell thanks josh, I'm gonna try using air mode
Sweet and i will say a Big Thanks to you of course for you vids
But to Hector Basil Hind ( Rotceh ) for putting me on this path :D
so amazing as a noob who can do this all day.
Don’t throw it with your hand! I tried and it just went boom 💥 to the ground 😉. Lol
So the Taranis has many ways to accomplish the same tasks. Mix, inputs, special functions and curves. It's endless
+Invitingsauce Absolutely. OpenTX is very full-featured.
hey i juat got a eachine wizard and should i have to arm the quad evertime i kill the motors and land for just a second?
I'm about to try air mode ......stand by lol
When you use ur idle up method, Do you still have motor Stop disabled? My motors sunnysky 2204 with bl20a Start at around 1150, isnt that a little bit to high to use the idle up method on the taranis?
+skatebjarne If you have idle up active, then motor stop doesn't matter. Motor stop takes effect when the throttle goes below min_check. When idle up is active, the throttle never goes below min_check.
Regarding your second question, you are confusing min_throttle, which is an throttle value that is OUTPUT from the FC to the ESC, with min_check, which is an stick position value that is INPUT from the receiver to the FC. When idle up is active, the INPUT stick position stays above min_check. This will cause your motors to spin slightly faster than min_throttle, whatever min_throttle happens to be. When you set up your idle up "DIFF" value, set it so that the throttle channel just barely exceeds min_check, NOT min_throttle.
So for example, a typical configuration might be min_check=1050 and min_throttle=1150. You would set up your idle up DIFF value so that the throttle channel stayed above 1055 or 1060. This would cause the motors to idle at, perhaps 1155 or 1160.
+skatebjarne BTW, my personal preference is currently to run motor_stop active, and idle up also active. This means that during normal flight, the motors act as if motor_stop was disabled. But if I am working on the bench, I can flip a switch on my transmitter to disable idle up, which allows me to arm the copter without spinning the motors, for troubleshooting purposes.
+Joshua Bardwell ahhh ok. thanks for your help! this explanation helps me a lot. I think i have to try it out and play with the values. to get it right.
I subscribed
What if you trim your throttle so once you armed, the motors will never shut off? Isnt that the same thing?
+Jacky Heshi Sure, but then you can never input any stick command that requires zero throttle.
+Jacky Heshi What happens when you crash then? You destroy your props and almost certainly ruin your motors too. You could do this but you'd have to have a kill switch of some sort or you wouldn't even be able to pick up the quad after a crash.
+Robert Collins you arm and disarm by switch.
+Joshua Bardwell guess that depends on the receiver and/or config. I have a radio link and you arm by holding left stick to the bottom right and disarm by leaving throttle at 0 for a few seconds.
thats funny
Hi thenukeman,
I use the hq triblades 5040 like mr steel and the kingkong triblades 5040 when i know i wil go crashing. But my problem is fixed i bought the Kiss fc and Kiss esc's. the biggest problem Where the esc.
Thx for your intrest Kind regards Michel
Sorry. Im being a little slow here.
When do you use air mode?
ARM-switch to start flying, then do a punch up, switch on air mode, float, and then regain 'control' and flip off air mode?
Or is Air Mode just the opposite of ARM, as in "Parked gear" or "Drive gear"?
Air Mode shouldn't really be called a flight mode. It's a Feature. It's a change to the mixer logic that increases authority at low throttle. I just leave it on all the time. In my opinion, it's how the mixer should have worked to begin with.
ua-cam.com/video/d2nRrVENEYM/v-deo.html
Joshua Bardwell I believe I understand now! If I got this, Air mode means the motors are allowed to ask for more power than given by throttle. English is not my main language, so I'm just using simple words. Thank you for helping!
Ylex For English not being your main language, you have better grammar than most people online
or in "live mode" for that matter...
Hi mr bardwell i have a little question. from the moment i flip my quad 90° upside down (after a throttle punch) my PID (i think ) stop the upward float motion. do you know what this can be ? or is it maybe the fc or esc i'm using? FC is the seriously pro racing f3 the esc i don't know what brand they are . the plan is to swap the FC to a naze 32
kind regards
Michel
+Michel Van Camp make sure min_throttle is not too high. Make sure you are lowering the throttle all the way. If your copter is heavy, lighten it. Punch harder to go up faster.
Thx Mr Bardwell i will try to lower my min throttle but its already at 1010 i will keep searching
Michel Van Camp What kind of props do you use?
Can you do it with airmode on ?
+Henry Hampshire of course
And set min throttle to low
So I'm just sort of getting into (FPV) i have been flying since September, Manly just aerial filming i have the Xk Detect X380 for that and the Syma x8c but my starter quad was the syma x5sw FPV wifi edition and the syma x8c. but i just ordered the Stock Fpv kit for my x380 and i ordered a xk 250 alien with FPV and i got the Xk airdancer x350 and i ordered the Fpv kit for it as well. I thought that flying the xk airdancer x350 with fpv would be really cool since it has both 3d and 6d mode to fly upside down. But to get into racing or just have a really fast racing quad what can you recommend for me to buy to have a fast really fast quad.
+Andy Shaffer The fastest copters are light, and have a very small aerodynamic profile. Look to the Krieger and the Shrike if ultimate speed is your goal. But they are some of the most difficult to build because they are so small and compact, and if you are not an experienced builder, I don't recommend them. The next step up would be a 210 size frame like a QAV210 or an Alien 5". If you want to, you can find much cheaper Chinese knock-offs of these frames from Banggood--your call where you want to put your money. The 210 size frame will have worse aerodynamics than the "Pure X" style frames, but can still be very fast.
I can't stress enough the importance of light weight when building a racer. With light weight, you can go to higher-kv (lower torque) motors and still not suffer a handling penalty. This increases acceleration and top speed. You also need high-C-rating batteries that can feed your motors without sagging, but unfortunately, marketing numbers mean nothing, and practical test results are few and far between. Don't just buy a battery with a ridiculous C-rating on the label because it's probably BS.
There isn't really a simple answer as to what goes into a really fast quad, but this should get you started.
Absolutely yes i will look in to that i thought about getting this Eachine racer 250 Amazon has it for 189.00 with prime so Yes i figure something like that just to start out on and yes they have the kits to build your own the way you want it. and i was planning on doing something like that with my G.P.S quads but like you said. Flying yes is one thing but building your own is altogrther different that like waiting for strike 3 at half time in the super bowl totally different but yes I'm going to just get something like the eachine 250 for now until later then ill know more about what I'm going to need to build my quad like what is the best size motor for a certain amount of weight i don't know how they calibrate themselves. or if that's done manually? with these flyers.
Andy Shaffer The best thing you can do is look at what pro pilots are flying. There is no single best answer for what motor and prop to pick. If there were, everybody would fly that. But there are definitely combinations that do NOT work well--for example, an 1806 motor will probably lack the torque to spin a 5045BN prop very effectively. A 2208 motor would be bad to pair with a very small 4045 prop. Etc... If in doubt, look at what the pros are flying, or look at high-end ARF or RTF kits and copy them. But definitely do your research. The Vortex RTF 250 copter came with 1806 motors, which were not really the highest-performing at the time it came out.
That's very true. Just from your personal experience in using different propellers, Some say that propellers when in balance can increase speed, flight time, and the life of your motors. Increasing the life of your motors sounds about right. The speed however I'm not sure. i just put Dji 9450 self locking propellers on my x380 and to me the new propellers seem to increase speed by a little bit they are a half inch longer and made different from the stock ones, so it may be possible to increases speed a little i would presume. And flight time, so if the propellers are in balance and the motors are running smother then once again i guess its possible it could increase the flight time by a little bit also couldn't hurt it none anyway. but yes i want to build something later on from scratch well not entirely from scratch i thought about ordering all the parts and transmitter i would need and build one out of conduit of cpvc plastic pipe i have seen a couple other design's made similar.
If you get Eachine get Wizard 220 don't get the Eachine 250 racer its not great
Are they flying full manual mode? Or is it ratitude?
Or rate mode?
+MrAjw31213 You can basically assume that all top pilots are flying in rate mode.
Next thing you know it will be governors :)
+Aaron Alegria lol, that would be pointless without CP but i'm sure they will try to use them for something.
I've seen others and also been doing this LOS for years, not sure why it's considered new if it's fpv. Good explanation but about 6 minutes too long to describe cutting the throttle and disabling motor stop (cheating way) :)
+MicroRCFiend If you don't post the video, it never happened!
True, I see your a helination listener, hi :). It's also true that if you don't check my quad videos you won't see it either will you? Not sure how cutting the throttle during a flip is considered difficult to believe when I post quads doing piroflip reversals but more power to you for being creative.
I may be new to fpv but quad flying is my roots, might need to check back further than the last 5 videos :)
they also use air mode :)
+flying craze air mode didn't exist when I made this video.
Joshua Bardwell respect sir :)
Thanks mate off to try now. See on my channel (Plane Stupid RC)
Dude just play the video we get it.
HEYYYYYYY WELCOME TO THE CHANNEL THIS IS JOSHUA BARDWELL AND YOU'RE GOING TO LEARN SOMETHING TODAY. TODAY, I'M GOING TO BE TALKING ABOUT WHY I GO ON AND ON AND ON AND ON AND OVER-EXPLAIN THINGS UNTIL YOU'RE BORED AND YOU KIND OF WANT TO CLOSE THE WINDOW, BUT SOMEHOW YOU KEEP WATCHING UNTIL IT'S DONE AND THEN YOU'RE LIKE FUCK, WHAT DID I JUST WATCH WHY DOESN'T THIS GUY GET TO THE POINT AND THEN INSTEAD OF CLOSING THE WINDOW YOU LIKE LEAVE A COMMENT AND YOU'RE LIKE DUDE JUST PLAY THE VIDEO WE GET IT AND THEN I GO INTO THE COMMENTS SECTION AND LEAVE A LONG COMMENT DESCRIBING THE WHOLE INTERACTION WHICH YOU PROBABLY READ THE WHOLE THING GOTCHA SUCKA!
happy flying!
+Joshua Bardwell well played
Inertia
Which craft?........hehe.
Do you actually do any flying or do you just talk a lot about flying?
Top Acro and Racing FPV Videos: ua-cam.com/play/PLwoDb7WF6c8l1E9xHpuHnvuHX_9nQkz2T.html
Wtf
You are just talking sooo much.. sometimes less is more.. ;)
Welcome to the channel. I talk a lot. People seem to like it. I like it. Hope you come to appreciate it as well.
Joshua B. grows on you like a mole LOL
I know.. :)
Stoptalking
+Ralf Foreign welcome to the channel!
+Ralf Foreign Ralf, your music sucks
No need for insults, please.
I talk a lot. It's not for everybody. I'm glad some people enjoy it but just ask my wife... some people don't.
+Joshua Bardwell True, don't feed the trolls. Also, are you an engineer? I am and I love your explanations, very logical and easy to follow!
Too much speaking