Breaking down the Byron-Logano incident | NASCAR ON FOX
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- NASCAR RaceHub discusses the Joey Logano and William Byron incident with two laps to go at Darlington.
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Breaking down the Byron-Logano incident | NASCAR ON FOX
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Who do you think was at fault here?
Byron,he slowed way down
No one
Logano
Both
Nobody it’s racing
I remember a post race interview with Gordon saying about his win "what did you expect? it was for a million dollars"
@Anti Liberal Joey is a more talented driver than Dale Sr. And Jeff combined...
@@WOODLASE 😂 that’s the dumbest thing i’ve seen on the internet in a long time
@Anti Liberal it's not about the talent, it's about the attitude. if its good enuff for the goose it's good enuff for everyone else
@@WOODLASE dreams are a wonderful thing aren’t they.....LOL.
@Anti Liberal I'll be 72 on May 24th and Joey will be 32 likewise. I've been watching NASCAR since the mid 1960's at tracks like Nashville. Darlington, and Rockingham and after my tour in Vietnam 52 years ago, I started going to Charlotte, Atlanta, Talladega and Daytona. IMHO, Joey has more driving talent than DE Sr. and Jeff Gordon when you compare what THEY drove and what Joey drives these days. Jeff and DE Sr. were good to bump and run many drivers for a win, especially if if a driver runs over them because he's OUT OF HIS LEAGUE talent wise, hence Billy Byron...
Why would Logano give a guy who already walled him a chance to do it again? Move him and call it a day.
Joey was just a lot faster than the 24 at the end there. He had been running quicker lap times the last 8-10 laps and closed up what had been a near 2 second gap to nothing with about 2 laps to go.
On the last re-start, Byron ran Joey up in to the wall and was able to get the lead in doing so.
Logano decided to save his tires and put on a charge at the end,..catch him and then use and insurance policy bump and run for the win.
If Byron had the performance to win,..Joey wouldn't have been close enough to bump and run. He didn't and lost.
He didn’t wall him , Joey walked himself , then he got butthurt and wrecked Byron !!
Dale Earnhardt used to do this all the time and everybody love him , why was it okay for him to do it but nobody else
He a legend, Joey Logano is not think twice
Joey was just a lot faster than the 24 at the end there. He had been running quicker lap times the last 8-10 laps and closed up what had been a near 2 second gap to nothing with about 2 laps to go.
On the last re-start, Byron ran Joey up in to the wall and was able to get the lead in doing so.
Logano decided to save his tires and put on a charge at the end,..catch him and then use and insurance policy bump and run for the win.
If Byron had the performance to win,..Joey wouldn't have been close enough to bump and run. He didn't and lost.
Man that 24 paint scheme is just so iconic . It was so nice to see
That paints scheme isn’t iconic. If they had the rainbow paint scheme on there then it’s iconic.
@@libertatumautmori4506 They both are …chill brah
Especially if he could have won at darlington too
@@jmilz08 Chill? Did I flip out or something? Did I say it angrily? I mean I'm just saying his rainbow scheme is the iconic scheme.
@@libertatumautmori4506 it is and they’ve done it before .
thats called bump and run ..its 100% legal
That was not a bump. That was a shot to a vulnerable spot in the back of the car
Bump and run is generally done as a last chance move for a win, not the first thing you do when you catch a guy
@@zachhatten261 ahh wast it in last few laps .. to win ..??
@@markroberts9577 no that was 100% bump and run .. or shake and bake
If I'm a racecar driver and a competitor pushes me into the wall I'll be very upset, would you ??
In the past I may have thought the Joey Logano not right but this IS the way racing is done these days. This isn't the first time racers raced like this. Back in the day Earnhardt, Waltrip, and Walace raced just like this. I just don't understand the big deal. This is the way it has been going all year so why complain just because it is Logano?
That's the way I see it too.
Your right NASCAR has been like this for years. If your the one who wins you get the trophy and the other guy is always upset. I remember a couple of years ago guys like Harvick and Stewart banging Joey around, smacking him into the walls and calling him a spoilt rich punk. Why is anyone surprised he's learned how to punt people out of the road.
I remember Carl Edwards punting Brad Keselowski out of the road at Gateway and Brad got t-boned. Carl got out of the car and said he couldn't let it happen again after Brad had punted Carl at a restart. then Brads dad was howling outside the medical centre about how Carl had lost his mind and almost killed his kid. No mention of how Brad had nearly killed Carl at Talladega.
NASCAR is what NASCAR is. Guys beatin and bangin and fightin for wins.
You all are missing something. Watch the replay. Watch the exhaust under the driver's door of Byron's car. See the puff of fire. Byron lifted and Logano closed on him very quick before he even knew it.
You would think all the experts commenting here would see that Byron lifted. If Joey swerved at that point what do you think would have happened to Byron?
@@gregkindred716 Need drama?
That's exactly what I saw. I can't believe these commentators didn't say anything. They just want drama.
Logano lifted too you see flames on his exhaust before the bump
Joey was just a lot faster than the 24 at the end there. He had been running quicker lap times the last 8-10 laps and closed up what had been a near 2 second gap to nothing with about 2 laps to go.
On the last re-start, Byron ran Joey up in to the wall and was able to get the lead in doing so.
Logano decided to save his tires and put on a charge at the end,..catch him and then use and insurance policy bump and run for the win.
If Byron had the performance to win,..Joey wouldn't have been close enough to bump and run. He didn't and lost.
I do not like the way Joey Lagono pushed in revenge of what happened 26 laps back , BUT Dale Earnhart used to do this during his prime days and had the same results and words at the end ! To bad for both , but that is racing !
nah Nascar racing 😂absolute wrong just to push someone out
I disagree - that was not racing there at all. Logano just flat-out wrecked the guy and didn't even try to pass him. He went and did exactly what he intended to do and that was to wreck him.
Earnhardt didn't just run guys over, he'd race them and if they wouldn't move, he'd just "rattle their cage a little".
I could give a list of drivers who have done the same thing. It's been going on for year's. Of course back in the day they would duke it out. We live in a different time now.
Dale Earnhardt never wrecked anyone either he may have been a rough driver but he never wrecked anyone out he may have intimidated them into getting out of his way which is why they called him the Intimidator you need to go back and watch some of his races and you'll see that you're wrong about him wrecking people
All I’m saying is switch the drivers and this is an entirely different take from Fox
Probably because someone has a long history of this. You make your own impressions on people.
@@saragrant9749 crazy that anyone can fence Logano and it’s not a problem but when he retaliates it is? Gtfoh
@@kellykeaton3487 I don’t condone retaliation from ANY driver, let alone him. Retaliation has no place in the sport- and quite often leads to consequences worse than intended. The fact that many nascar drivers feel retaliation is justified is one of the many things wrong about the sport. Just remember- safety has come a long way but this could still result in terrible consequences.
And by most of the commentors on here. They would be lying to themselves to say otherwise.
It’s called racing
But you guys have TELEMETRY DATA. Why not watch the two cars parameters? Both drove in and both came off gas same time, but Byron slowed dramatically. I asked this of Larry Mac on twitter as well. yeah joey sent him, but nobody finds this odd that Byron slowed THAT much in the corner?
His car was slowing but Joey sent it man
There’s no doubt Byron parked it, not sure why this hasn’t been said.
Logano had a run and Byron lifted...see the flames come out right before contact...not saying Joey wasn't gonna give him bump & run...just racin...poor Willie B.
Idk why everybody is making a big deal about this anybody would've done the same thing if it's for the win but when it's Joey logano everybody gets pressed
Because he does it a LOT! He’s a dirty racer!
The difference is Joey made no attempt to actually race for the win. He wrecked him the instant he got to his bumper. People aren't upset about the move itself, I think its fine. They are upset because instead of trying to race for a win, Joey just dumped him. That's what this stupid new format does. Second place is meaningless so people don't try to race and settle for second. They wreck people because wins are the only thing that matter
@@zachhatten261 Stop saying WRECKED, that is a lie. No damage, no wreck, Geez you people seem to thrive on lies and drama. NO ONE WAS WRECKED OR HURT!
Byron didn't lift for Logano to keep him from the wall and Logano caught him and gave him the same treatment
Rubbin is racing looked like a Dale Sr Jeff Gordon finish
pretty simple----Byron got the lead by pushing Logano up into the wall----Logano got him back-----end of story
Lagano had a chance to let off. They all run everybody wide to block...
Joey was just trying to rattle his cage! It worked
Imagine NASCAR blessed announcers that find no fault in the GM racer. The only shock (kind of) is McReynolds basically saying get over it in a very long way. Odd that none of them mention how much Byron had slowed over that last 10 laps and that it appeared his slowing was basically checking up right in front of Logano. Where exactly was he supposed to go? The whole "controversy" is just silly.
Joey was just a lot faster than the 24 at the end there. He had been running quicker lap times the last 8-10 laps and closed up what had been a near 2 second gap to nothing with about 2 laps to go.
On the last re-start, Byron ran Joey up in to the wall and was able to get the lead in doing so.
Logano decided to save his tires and put on a charge at the end,..catch him and then use and insurance policy bump and run for the win.
If Byron had the performance to win,..Joey wouldn't have been close enough to bump and run. He didn't and lost.
Ya wrecking another driver to win is okay as long as you're not Joey Logan, people are so bias and stupid it's amazing.
Who wrecked? You pearl clutchers like to lie. Wee Willy was not wrecked or even close to being wrecked.
@@merlinbeen8432 I think you completely misunderstood the point of the person you're replying to.
I reject every winner that wins this way. I have no bias other than I don't care for drivers that "win" this way. It's a losers way of winning.
It was a lovetap. Plus, Logano still would’ve won the race even without giving a shot to Byron’s rear. He clearly had more pace than Byron the last 20 laps.
I don't think Joey Logan made the field for this race
Not a Logano fan. But looked like the classic bump and run. That's NASCAR racing. Get over it Byron. No stress cards in NASCAR.
As a semi Logona fan... im kinda disapointed.
If what they are saying is true then drivers would have been hitting the wall on turn 2 every lap. He took the lead by pushing Logano into the Wall. Look in that picture of Byron putting Logano in the wall and look behind them and do you see anyone else putting the car on the outside into the wall?
Well said !
After hearing Gordon’s comments after the race , I immediately found an old YT video of him moving Rusty Wallace for a win. In the true spirit of Earnhardt , rubbing is racing. If you think for a cold hard second , that Dale wouldn’t have done that , YOU’ RE WRONG ! All the old schoolers will move you for a win.
YOU HAVE SAID IT ALL BUDDY
Joey didn't wreck him; he gave him the "chrome horn", something Dale Ernhardt did for years and was never criticized for.
Dale is a great and earned his right. Joey is not. The comparison needs to stop there.
@@squintscom LOL, so it's okay for one driver to do it but not another. If Iron Head had been wearing a HANS device he'd still be alive today. Guess he wasn't so great.
The move has been called a , Bump And Run and has been in NASCAR racing as long as I can remember and I go back to the 60's. Another point is that Laganos Ford was fast all day long and had no problems running up front.
earnhardt is the reason everybody now 'hits' to pass. and yeah..somehow its ok...to do ...so...why not....its not racing its bumper cars and nobody cares to hold anyone accountable for retaliating or taking someone out for no reason...costs the teams and the sport....as it gets further from racing and more like WWF
@@mattdunfee107
Joey was just a lot faster than the 24 at the end there. He had been running quicker lap times the last 8-10 laps and closed up what had been a near 2 second gap to nothing with about 2 laps to go.
On the last re-start, Byron ran Joey up in to the wall and was able to get the lead in doing so.
Logano decided to save his tires and put on a charge at the end,..catch him and then use an insurance policy bump and run pass for the win.
If Byron had the speed performance to win,..Joey wouldn't have been close enough to bump and run. He did not and he lost.
Fair: The leader (22 car) just got fenced for no reason. And the 22 didn’t wreck the 24, he just bumped him. And the 24 still finished 3rd. Which is where he would have finished had he not fenced him in the first place.
Byron slid up the track while Joey didnt lift and the 24 finished 13th, not 3rd. Not sure what race you were watching.
I can’t stand Joey, but he’s not in the wrong. That’s rubbin. And rubbin is racing whether you’re taking or returning. Jamie’s opinion is about as good as his racing career. ⭐️
You 3 wouldn't be a little biased, would you?
This is racing. People want crazy finishes, then they say DIRTY when we get one. I love seeing crazy finishes. Briscoe did worse to Reddick. At least Logano won the race after doing that. Byron ran him in the fence, and Joey retaliated for the win rather than for the lead. Love seeing crazy finishes. But I would love to see Byron retaliate, I just wana see racer drama.
thats not racing thatd umping someone at any local track joey would have been DQ for it
you obviously you have never raced. That's dirty racing
Penske dog water
Tell me one finish NASCAR has reversed when someone deliberately took another driver out on the final lap.
I'll wait here.
@@richardfuerst5286 dirty racing? Explain to me how Byron got the lead in the first place
I mean who cares really. They were both wrong for what they did and and if the 24 does a retaliatory action then I'm sure he'll get fan boosts. Gordon said it best when he said this format forces drivers to be more aggressive at the cost of others. Consistently performing only takes you so far.
Both WRONG? You kidding me? Now drivers are not supposed to race hard and run someone tight? What Byron did was racing, what Lagono did was dumping and he will get it back one day.
The 45,360 people so far care. You're here. Why are you here if you don't care? Furthermore, why would you comment if you don't care? I don't get it. It would be like if I went to a video of a bunch of people comparing techniques on sewing and said who cares. Obviously the people that sew care. WTF?
Where does the list of cars start that were “moved” by Jeff Gordon?
@@jagcat61 Moving a car out of the way say in a one lane track is one thing, the 22 could have easily dropped down and passed. The 24 was loose going in he knew it and put him in the wall, plain and simple. I just wish it backfired and took them both out so the 8 could win lol
I’m a Hendrick fan, but I honestly think this was a fair win for Joey Logano.
your a fair guy- i agree 100%- joey had the car to beat after the #11 had issues
I believe Earnhardt invented that whole bump and run so I definitely liked your comment…👍🏽
Byron simply didn't have the horsepower at the end!
@@randycarpenter1025 spot on brutha! People, including myself, praise Earnhardt (May he Rest In Peace) and he was known for bumping those in his way. Dale earned the name “The Intimidator” for a reason, fans need to give Joey a break
I personally find crowding a guy into the wall just as unsportsmanlike as bumping a guy out of the way. But everybody will have a different opinion.
Well , this is nascar racing but Byron did pinch Logano then Logano did a classic Dale SR . maneuver ,
A win is a win
Fair, not foul.... Period, rubbing is racing, how many times has Dale jr. do the bump and run, and thats ok?
That wash a wreck and run. It sucked!
Larry, if there's any one to be mad about with your 40 years experience it's NASCAR. Their total disregard for rough driving because the judgement call's too hard to make, along with the shock factor of the action to the fan, is the issue. We need to get back to real 'team' competition and stop the "have at it boys" attitude they created for every driver running behind you.
Joey knows how to drive and Byron is learning.
YEPPERS!! Billy Byron has a long way to go and it's sad a rookie youngster like him gets a Hendrick ride right out of the gate. The #24, 48, and 9 drivers ALL SHOULD have started out with one or two car teams to get the lay of the land like Larson did. I call them the Three SPOILED AMIGOS....
But no one ever said about old Dale Sr did it every race and everytime someone was in front of him racing isn't like the old days
Show the Cumarrow braking telemetry when the exhaust is flaming
Blame it still on this chase bullspit, wins are important.
I've been a dirt racer for 20 years, having the respect nearly everywhere I go for being a clean driver means something to me.
EXACTLY. You’d never see multiple teams in nascar rushing in to reassemble a bent up car. You see it constantly on dirt. I remember a night years back at the dirt track at Vegas where a sprint car heat race had a pileup on the start- literally involving 9 of the 12 cars. They allowed the teams to just come out on track to repair rather than take the time to tow cars pit side. There were at least 10 teams per CAR out there fixing people up, it was like the floodgates opened up. That is what motorsports should be about.
He will be the first one crying when his car is destroyed by Byron.
If people are mad at Logano let me ask you a question if it was dale Earnhardt doing it would you be mad. For years dale would wreck people and people still loved him!!!!!!!
Stop using Dale Sr! He was constantly booed for years! Listen to drivers that raced against him 🙄
thats called bump and run .. its 100% legal in nascar .
He did it on short tracks and didn't send them into the wall to wreck them. Logano did a dump and run not a bump and run.
Using the Dale Sr thing is getting old. Earnhardt was booed plenty for pulling this stuff, but now gets a pass because of the tragic 2001 crash. Dale and Jeff Gordon were also really good at moving someone without wrecking them.
I’m a big HMS fan and would of had no issue with the bump and run. However, straight punting a guy is classless and a pure Logano move. Did Byron squeeze him a bit, absolutely, but the punishment doesn’t fit the crime. Logano maintained 2nd with next to no damage.
@@shaynejenkins446 terry labonte Bristol ring a bell
Jeff "Wonder Boy" Gordon getting angry at Joey Logano is funny. Gordon angry at Logano for doing something that he often did himself. LMAO.
Yeah. Think about the infamous Gordon Keselowski fight when Gordon said Brad came down on him and the video shows it was 100 percent on Gordon. All 3 Hendrick's cars are already in so securing a spot was key.
That's the way real men race
Real men???? Not something Bill Elliott would have done.
He only cleared him because he fenced him, how did you think he’d feel? Why would he take the outside and let Byron fence him again?
Good to see Larry back in the driver's seat!
Rubbing is racing.
The Dale Earnhart school for "last lap tap" prevails again.
Lagano had the faster car and Byron knew it..
And yes he pushed him in the wall.. It almost took him out at that speed. So stop whining. All the other drivers seen it and were thinking they could win this. If them two wrecked each other. They said as much..
That's the problem. The new next gen cars are so fragile that the little bit that the 22 got into the wall could have literally ruined his car and his race, whether it was intentional on Byron's part or not. I can understand Logano's frustration- and this is coming from someone who has always rooted against Logano.
That's racing! All of you have done it
I don’t think these guys would survive with Tony Stewart , Jeff Gordon, Bobby L , dale jarrett, oh yea DALE SR!!! Dale would have said, I didn’t mean to do that lol!!!!!
Followed Joey now for years. I would have thought better of him if he just chuckled and said I did what I had to, rather than that lame excuse he tried to sell
0:24 Byron didn't mean to do it but he did actually run Joey into the wall. Granted, Joey should have just said "he was diving down the last few laps to steal my draft so I punched it assuming I could pass high". Instead his answer sounded like he was Kyle Busch. Glad he won but it wasn't necessary as his car was so much better at that point.
I hate Logano but loved this move. I’m tired of “goody good” racing. Dale Earnhardt would’ve been proud.
That's racing baby!
This incident is quite simple. The move was a hard bump and run. No issues there. The problem is that it was unnecessary. Logano could've passed Byron without putting him in the wall. Just go low. He had the time and the overspeed in the car. Even if Joey was mad for being squeezed a bit on the restart (didn't really get put into the wall if you watch the replay certainly not like other drivers have done) he shouldn't have just wrecked Byron as a result. And for those saying it wasn't a wreck it was. Byron would've finished top 5 without the move instead he finished 13th with only one tire up and damage. So yeah, it may have been hard racing and just like the good old days, but the move came off like Joey wanted to be a jerk and wreck Byron.
Justified
Will threw out the anchor right in the middle of the track , if Joey was being fowl i would say it , i just don't feel he did anything wrong , besides , listen to Bill Elliot during the incident
Logano overdrove the corner. Byron wasn’t slow Joey just didn’t slow down.
@@parkerwalsh3340 Watch it back. 22 lifted before the 24
Joey gave back what he got. Of course wait til the last lap to do it. not 26 laps before the end
Earnhart and Busch did and do this all the time with the same result at the end.
Wreckers or Checkerds is the theme of the season.
Omg...would this be dissected if it was Earnhardt?
Logano had him, he just eliminated the possibility of Byron wrecking him on a clean pass.
unfair assumption. Joey NEVER tries to pass; he always wrecks people as soon as he gets to them.
Classic bump and RUN, and BYRON DID checkup!! LOOK! And guess what, Joey didn't wreck Byron either.
Furthermore what driver would not have done this?
Racing is fun winning is more fun
Bill Elliott
Yes he put him in the wall!!!
Chastain and Byron have to be the favorites right now. But I don't blame Logano.
Just remember that Byron has to be fast enough to catch Joey to retaliate
Ummm no he doesn’t, not on an oval. Just ask Matt Kenseth. But in this case Byron has the speed, all the Hendrick motorsports cars do. William Byeon doesn’t seem to have the retaliatory temperament. His interview after the race proved he has self control. But if I’m Joey Logano in the future, at least for the foreseeable future, anytime I am around the 24 I’m gonna wonder if this is the lap that I’m gonna eat the wall.
These 3 guys are like a Mexican novel....
Really you think Logano could have had a little bit more patience than he did instead of just slamming him into the wall he needs to be taken out for a few races to teach him a little lesson about etiquette on driving
It's racing...!!
Byron has a couple wins under his belt an he thinks the only way Logano can win is driving through him😂😂 clown
So I think Joey was mad at Byron for putting him into the fence off of turn two on that last restart, and Joey paid Byron back on the penultimate lap at turn three. I bet these two are gonna be rivalries as the season rolls on. I think that enough of me insulting Logano for now.
Thanks captain obvious
You "think"? He said so.
Problem is that "wall" incident was typical bumping and grinding. Not deliberately SLAMMING a rear quarter... and in the turn no less.
Racing is a contact sport! We've turned into a bunch of "Touch me nots"
Last lap, have at it boys
So race like a video game with no penalties. Conserve your tires in 2nd place and make the cheap move. This isn't F1 where you have to outbreak someone and take a better apex through the corner.
Lagano...22 was in the right 👍
He keeps saying he wished Joey would have just races him a few more laps to see if he could pass him cleanly. Ugh...there was one lap to go
Just racing.
Joey Logano and Mustangs rule!!
The good thing is … it ain’t over
Racing to Win, No Problem 🇺🇸
Fox for not showing what happen raceday!!! Where Byron did fence Joey into the wall..
"No one remembers who came in second!"
Great win logano....
give logano the matt kensuth special
Jamie your word really don't mean much to me..
This very issue is exactly why some loved earnharht & some hated him!!
Logano should remember Kenseth.
Byron's tires were done he wasn't going to win anyway and nascar should thank Joey because people are still talking about the race
I dont believe any retaliation will come in Kansas next week, I believe he's gonna wait a couple of races down the road to do something
Seems you guys forgot the camera that was in logano's car showing Byron back off so logano bumped him. Byron is as Responsible for what happened to him as as well as Logano.
Can’t wait to Logano going up to inspect the fence again.
totally fair. Bump n' run.
Joey is not a clean driver in any way, however it's not Joeys fault Byron couldnt control his car.
His new name is Crash & Pass.
Fair
Why race this guy fair when
You know he was going to do
The same thing again could not
Take that chance
i'm calling it. martinsville.
Bumping is racing. Pay back always comes around.
Bump & Runs should be outlawed
The issue is that Joey never tried to pass him. He only sent Byron.
Yes, it was the Dump-and-Run not a Bump-and-Run.
And Joey could have easily said "Byron went low in every corner to steal my draft so I just punched it to pass on the outside" and we all would have bought it. Instead he came across as Kyle Busch.
Push someone into the wall to take the lead, if by accident then you need to control your car.
Then brake check the guy on the last lap thats 2 strikes and your luck just ran out.
Jamie said it best