I'm not sure LG and BOE will take this lying down. If both of them and Apple jump on this, it will die. The question is, will they? Probably not. They will likely try to work with Samsung to be allowed.
Every time I see "I was wrong" in a Rossmann video title I always wonder whether it's going to be an apology or an "oh boy, it's way worse than I initially thought".
Plus phones now all look the same, weigh too much, in general too big, goten rid of 3.5mm and doesn't provide dual sim + sd-card simultaneously. Such a shame to look at the industry become so trash nowadays.
I looked around for another company as soon as Samsung started getting rid of audio port saying that they wouldn't. I got a OnePlus 7 which didn't have the audio jack but at least they hadn't promised to keep it. Then that phone had connectivity issues so I looked for other brands. I recently bought a ROG 6. It has an audio jack, and it has good specs for the price.
If Samsung gets their way, they not only impact the repair industry, they not only impact Apple and BOE, they potentially impact legitimate competition in the oLED space even if it DOES NOT use Samsung's PenTile, such as LG. Shipment inspector see oLED, shipment inspector see no Samsung logo, shipment inspector say no.
This is what people don't understand, and what I explained when I had my batteries confiscated: www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/cuacpn/usps_loses_1800_worth_of_packages_from_louis/exub43y/?context=3 and www.reddit.com/r/apple/comments/clgnmh/apple_refuses_warranty_repair_due_to_liquid/evx650z/? There is no way in hell a customs inspector is going to look in a microscope to see what the pixel formation pattern is of X vendor's AMOLED and Y vendor's AMOLED. They are just going to exclude anything without Samsung logo. This would give Samsung a de-facto monopoly.
@@michaelgleason4791 Manufacture where else? The shipment inspector will see the display regardless of whether it came from China, Korea, Taiwan, Japan, Australia, and so on. If it's manufactured in another corner of the world, anything from Canada to Brazil to Germany, it will see another shipment inspector, one that will certainly make the same mistakes. The one and only option to continue competing would be to build a domestic manufacturing plant, which, because of how taxes and wages work in the U.S., tends to drive up operational costs, making it hard to compete with the cheaper labors Samsung will be impartial to with Chinese wage slaves.
Big UA-camrs who review Samsung products (and any tech products in general) should have a duty to raise awareness to company's anti-competitive practices in their videos.
There's a reason in my 11 years on youtube I have had *one* paid sponsorship offer, from a shitty VPN company that was outed a few months later for massive data breaches. There are ways to review products and services that are _"advertiser friendly,"_ where you are superficially critical to maintain the appearance of credible objectivity while staying within the bounds of what manufacturers consider acceptable "criticism" and then there's _this._ _This_ ensures no manufacturer or service provider ever sponsors your content. You exile yourself to the world of getting a _"real job."_ For most people that claw their way to over a million subscribers, that's just not happening. Massive respect to people like AvE that make it obvious from the get go they don't give a rat's ass what sponsorship opportunities they throw out the window with their demeanor, but that's not most. and it doesn't make sense; why give up the chance to make a six figure living talking into a camera by poking the bear? You would have to be insane, once you pass a certain number of subscribers, to make content that repels easy money. Most people are surprisingly rational. Don't expect most reviewers to mention this in a critical light, or care. If you search on UA-cam, nobody is covering Samsung's 12000 page, multi million dollar litigation against *every repair parts supplier in the country,* and there's a reason for that.
@@rossmanngroup Sadly that is the truth. What steps would someone like me, who has 4-5 hours of completely free time each day, but no money, able to do to help fight back against this?
I am absolutely sick of companies abusing the lawmaking and legal process for more profitability in a manner that ultimately screws over the average citizens. Right to repair, rail roads, foods, cars, corporate legal abuse is absolutely everywhere. Citizens must band together to prevent their government from turning to into corporatism, or to fight corporatism.
Actual financial transparency as a condition of office would alter the whole tone of politics. For public funds it would reduce inefficiency as well as curruption.
Would you be shocked to believe that the reason we've had lead in gasoline and cannabis being criminalized for decades was due to the power and influence of for-profit companies? Yeah, no weed because hemp threatened Big Paper.
If the infringing products and non-infringing products are that difficult to tell apart then it's clearly not a product that can be exclusively owned. The basis of the technology means that any AMOLED even non-infringing has to be close enough. It's ridiculous that Samsung thinks they can own a 'pattern' that cannot be feasibly determined as infringing or not.
Not only are phones less repairable than they've ever been, now they want to strangle the few individuals willing to even repair their glued monstrosities.
How are their phones changed at all repair-wise in recent history? Even the S23s follow largely the same repair process as the S6 from 8 years ago, and are frankly improvements over the S5 that required pulling the screen to do anything besides battery. We've had 9 years of "remove the back with heat and then everything's open" design, while only 4 years of heatless designs (S1-4) that often had their own significant flaws like soldered charging ports. I'm not at all disagreeing with the video or anti-Samsung sentiments, I'm just curious what's supposedly changed.
Sorry but the s22 and s23 series are extremely easy to open up. If you repair phones daily you know the monstrosities to open up are the note 8’s and 9’s 😂
@@corombb There are no flagship phones from major manufacturers with batteries intended for user replacement anymore. There used to be. The argument is not that Samsung devices have always been flawless, the argument is that their batteries are no longer intended to be user serviceable.
"Blackberry says they stole her attention" Well yeah, I don't think Blackberries are even a THING anymo- "Blackberry, c'mon girl! Get down here!" Oh. Oh you meant the cat.
Given how these corporations outright abuse the patent system, I have to wonder if they're any better than the Chinese companies that counterfeit their products.
I was a Samsung fan until they removed the headphone jacks. I saw the writing on the wall and jumped ship to LG (bonus points for LG's awesome built-in headphone DACs and the MicroSD card slot, even with 128GB base storage)
Still using my LG G8, even if the phone is acting a little screwy after the latest Android OS update. What an amazing phone. What a shame that they stopped making phones
I'm still using an lg g8 but it has gotten... glitchy with time. It was doing well for me at the start, and I like that it still has its sd card slot and headphone jack, both of which I make frequent use of, but the stability has left something to be desired. I was looking to try out graphene, but it seems like only phones they support are the pixels. I'd rather not lose my sd card slot in particular.
This is like the divorced parent threatening the other parent by saying, "I'll tell the kids you cheated on me if you don't do what I want you to do." It sucks for the one parent, but it sucks even more for the kids who will grow up hearing one lie only to find that the "victim" parent lied to them, ruined their relationship and robbed them of years that could have been spent with the other parent. Easier to "punch down" and go after the helpless ones first.
I went to finally buy some replacement parts for my S7; screen, back glass, battery, and charging port. Then I checked eBay for new old stock and found a brand new S7 for the same price as just the screen.
@@brandonlink6568 I'd say it's probably unlikely to be new. The phone is far too old and far too many people cling on to what they're used to. There is always the potential it got lost in the stock room though. Genuinely good for you if it's new and/or you're happy with your purchase :).
Yes, that's the point. In the previous 30 min video it is showcased better: in short, Samsung is just bullshitting for the sake of having a government regulated monopoly Edit: also found a comment in here by Louis saying the same thing better
samsung is getting worse and worse and worse as time goes on the leadership is full of out of touch boomers who are very anti competitive lg needs to get into the market again and take over samsung
It's a shame how much greed (or whatever it is) is getting to Samsung. It used to not be that way for sure. I even restored a 1980s Samsung microwave oven that even had the schematic taped in an envelope inside of it. It really seems they're so out of touch with reality that something large needs to change or they won't realize what may happen.
It's greed and arrogance. Back home they rule the South Korean economy. They're a chaebo, a government-sanctioned oligarchy, they're used to having their way and trampling the little guy. Sometimes quite literally.
When the new Samsung CEO got jailed by taking hold of the company using scummy means to keep family control of the whole conglomerate, both the Korean and US governments begged for his release as his imprisonment would be "harmful to the economy".
Such a setup effectively creates a de facto monopoly for Samsung by infringing on the rights of companies that make similar, but legally distinct products with their own patents. The big companies shouldn't let that fly because of how much it'll wreck their own interests.
All big tech phone manufacturers are terrible. Pick the phone you want and don’t judge anyone else for owning a particular phone. The pendulum shifts every year, soon Google will be the worst again, then Apple, and so on. They all invade your privacy, they all want every last dollar to your name, they all use slave labor to manufacture their parts.
@@mementhusiast Designed by Google, but made by Samsung Semiconductor. Google gets a killer deal thanks to Samsung's Exynos woes and the SD 8 Generation 1 blunder.
I used to think Samsung where the good guys, they allowed consumers more choice and at least some options with repair but this is probably the straw that broke the camals back, next phone or TV will be someone else.
Most people who use Apple and Adobe products were too stupid to dump them when they were the only ones performing abusive anti consumer practices when the consumers had the opportunity to set the precedent by voting with their wallets. I doubt Samsung users will act any different.
Samsung dominates the RAM, SSD, image sensor chip, and overall general semiconductor market. They produce consumer electronics in literally every market sector from washing machines to televisions, and has >25% market share in virtually every sector it has a stake in. They (Samsung Techwin) even produce military hardware -- from artillery systems to tanks to missiles to radars and electronic warfare. The only reason they don't absolutely crush every competitor they have in every sector is government regulation, not consumer backlash, and they are increasingly skilled at manipulating pro-corporation political interests in countries like the US to stymie regulation that would limit their business and foster new regulations that protect their business. The only effective solution to this problem is ensuring that the regulation limits their power. This means limiting corporate free speech in Congress and holding government representatives accountable for the actions they fail to take to limit anti-competitive business practices. Their sales of consumer electronics to end user customers, especially in the US, are only a drop in the bucket for them, and we (as customers, not voters) only have as much power as that GoFundMe.
In a way, I'm quite happy that China doesn't respect IP law. Makes it easier for customers to go to another option in case this happens, although CCP meddling is a different can of worms
Their issues with the 970 Evo, 980, and 990 NVMe drives are biting them in the ass. They're also second to SK Hynix's DDR5 ICs in terms of performance. Samsung's display division needs to be slapped for anti-consumerism... too bad it won't be coming from the U.S.
Last time I thought, Sony dominated the overall imaging sensor market, to include industrial and niche specialty imaging equipment, and dedicated still cams and camcorders in addition to phones, Samsung pretty much just has skin in the phone cam sensor market last time I thought. Like, for example, Canon and Nikon use the same sensor as the a7 series in their RF-mount and Z-mount camera lines respectively, Fuji and both OM Digital/Olympus and Panasonic use Sony silicon in their X-mount and MFT camera lines respectively, even if Fuji uses their own color space and filters on that, and even Leica uses an a7-series sensor in their digital M-mount line IIRC. I'm not aware of Samsung's position in the industrial and specialty imaging market vs. Sony's, and they exited the dedicated still cam market years ago.
@@DFX4509B Samsung owned 30% of the smartphone image sensor market share in 2022. That has dropped sharply, but they are still one of the biggest players. They are also a key player in remote sensing products in the military sector.
The new argument should be about e-waste protecting our landfills and the environment. I think this would be the new option to make a good compelling argument about the right to repair to keep devices that are still usable out of the landfill and being able to get parts to repair those devices to keep them out of the landfill
You would still be able to get the parts, just at an insane price. This is looking at importing and the market, not the harm to environment. Import agency isn't too concerned with that
Fat chance. I've been screaming about the amount of e-waste that will be generated in 2025 when Microsoft kills support for Windows 10. The ludicrous system requirements of Windows 11 are already having a negative impact on the second hand pc market as nobody wants to buy a computer that as far as they are concerned will only last two years at best. And I just don't see the average end user switching to linux. These big tech companies want to talk that they care about the environment but then pull crap like this....
@@codyakins3032 the ewaste won't be much worse than it already is. I don't know anyone who upgrades their hardware because the os is going to not be updated anymore
In the late 1990s, Microsoft faced a lawsuit for engaging in anti-trust/anti-competitive practices. How is this different, and what's preventing us from filing a lawsuit again? I'm actually asking in Ernest here; I'm not familiar with legal things, so I fail to see how this is different to the point where it's impossible to do anything about it.
It seems like there's something every week now that blows the Internet Explorer antitrust case out of the water, yet somehow this has become the new norm. I'm hoping the FTC or some other government entity gets involved and files an amicus brief saying this would create an illegal monopoly and be grounds to overturn the case. Or at the very least, help appeal the decision.
The conservative movement as decided that unlimited money in politics is a good idea. Ever since then both parties belong to corporate overlords and all major decisions these days are approved by the companies on the s&p 500.
@@dangero2000 Garrett, I agree. The comment from eli was off topic. Like yourself, I also lived through the 1990s. I've thought about this as well for a long time. What it looks like to me, and I could be wrong, is that each of the major brands for each country, have more "power", to allow that countries technology be more globaly dominante. I think domestic monopolies are being allowed, to allow them to be more competitive internationally. The stakes are a lot higher today, than they were in the 1990s. Competition is now Chinese, who DO PLAY THAT GAME, in leveraging domestic brands, allowing them to steal IP, to be more competitive internationally.
Technical Perspective: Almost all color screens are based on light. Even the CRT ones. This means that they use the RGB system, lighting up and dimming a Red, Green and Blue dot. Thus, all screens have a 3 dot pattern, as it's the cheapest way to show the eye a ligh-based color. If the ones countering Samsung don't negate their camera based on this simple fact, then "lobbying" has worked much to well... (And yes, I know E-ink screens exist, but they are not light-based and have a very limited color range because they need to be based on a 4 pixel model. But that also means they are unable to offer the same variation as RGB.)
You say it's technicaly, but in reality the subpixel layout in displays can vary quite a bit. Samsung's QDOLED displays used in Ultrawide monitors use a triangular setup. Samsung's AMOLED screens are usually Diamond Pentile which is quite different from triple RGB subpixes with Blue and Red diamonds being much larger than green dots. LG's WOLED is WRGB with a white subpixel (4 total) to boost picture brightness. Even in LCD land, we see lots of variations for the subpixels, from being box shaped, to arrow shaped, and sometimes manufactures use BGR or RBG for some reason instead of RGB.
@@davidbuddy honestly, being able to copyright it down to *shapes* is a bit silly when there are physical limits to this stuff and what it takes for a monitor to work. It kinda seems like such a specific patent is kind of a stretch in credibility.
@@InfernosReaper There's supposed to be a "non-obvious" part to patents but the patent office is often not rigorous enough and leads stuff to be settled in the courts. Which has obvious issues.
I'm suprised they didn't lobby away the 20 year patent expiry stuff. Or are they scared because then RCA would still have a patent for the RGB CRT stuff...
10:25 "A screen for this phone is $300" "But the phone is only 200 bucks" "Well the screen for that phone is $300" "Bet. I'll just by the same phone off amazon for less than that" "*Nute Gunray voice* She can't do that! Shoot her!"
This is truly a sad situation.Just think of the damage they will be causing to so many people who have a running business and want to start a business in the independent repair industry. This really and truly is a gut punch to the core!. Shame on them.
To Samsung: I will NEVER buy any of your products. To Others: If you use Samsung parts, I will never buy any of YOUR products. If this means I dont replace my phone, so be it. Its full of spam anyway. My Comdial 2500 land line phone is fine, and isnt frivolously trying to put tens of thousands out of business over their greed. This is actually evil.
Lmaoing at the fact that the bot impersonating louis is asking to contact them via whatsapp, they couldn't even be bothered to use signal to make it more convincing
@@rossmanngroup I know we make the argument of, what competitor do we go to when all do it...but, maybe its time to cut the cord (the other way around from those old ads), cut the bars or signal or whatever. I only use a cell phone for emergencies, so who cars if its cracked or whatnot. I am just fed up with them!
@@jeremiahbullfrog9288 Return to monke...there is wisdom in that silly meme. We dont NEED super hi def phones. Its just a phone. The economy is crap anyways so spending on electronics might not be a great idea to begin with.
Sir I can assure you I can use my phone almost anywhere. You are relegated to the the length of your modem cable and cord. I can fit mine in my pocket and take it anywhere I go.
Apple is working on Micro LED screen designs for the iPhone, iPad, Macbook, and Apple Watch. Micro LED allows individual pixels to be turned on and off so it retains the battery savings from dark mode, it is more stable at extremely high brightness settings, it doesn't suffer from image retention after extended use, etcetera. If Apple succeeds then we will have an alternative screen technology that can compete with OLED in image quality and colour accuracy.
If you understand how micro LED is manufactured, you will quickly realize that apple will never succeed unless they manage to get 100% yield rate for the micro LED. This is why they are implementing it on the apple watches only, as there are less dead pixels to worry about.
Funny thing.. MicroLED was developed by 2 Chinese ppl in the US and is already used by Samsung and Sony is some applications and it's a patented tech too. The problem is the same if the politics don't stop this kind of thing same one can use patent system to block other suppliers that can access via legal royalties or different design. US legal system need to prevent that kind of thing in the country but there is interest in some to not let the Chinese became bigger players in the world scenario of electronics. In UE they make rules to benefit the people and the tech industry need to comply. And they don't allow monopoly behavior.
@@carlosgilpinheiro7510 I assume Apple’s version of Micro LED will be different enough from existing solutions to be considered legally distinct, similar to how Samsung and LG both have their own separate OLED patents.
Surely this violates one of the three anti-trust acts? I did note that the FTC act does not carry any penalties for violations, so what is the point of that toothless tiger?
I've been getting sick of the spyware, preinstalled trash, forced updates I don't want, and the misery of trying to repair a smart phone....because I should surely buy a new one every year. This just helps to justify my already made decision that I'm on my last "smart" phone. I'm sick of the cr@p.
I never understood why Samsung is synonymous with Android devices to people. I've been an Android user since smartphones became a thing and I've never owned a Samsung phone in my life. There are so many good Android devices that aren't a Samsung out there.
Agree, many people think Samsung = Android. Had too many people tell me that Android is slow and laggy, so I had to explain to them it's the shit Skin on top of Android.
Samsung plays huge marketing campaigns everywhere. Samsung products are the most marketed ones and the most visible ones. Consumers buy Samsung marketing.
"Blackberry says that they stole her attention."🤣 I think she agrees with you and is displeased about the whole thing. Just love how demanding she can be sometimes.
So basically, due to their actions, the results of their software, and their logistical practices, I'll be getting my next phone from someone other than samsung. Makes me almost regret buying their stuff ten years ago.
Samsung phones have always felt like flimsy tech demo prototype toys. Feels like they're showcasing features that could be in the full product but they're not optimized or fully operational yet and full of bare minimum jank. That's where Apple wins by far, they add their signature polish and crazy optimization and make it feel seamless. But that's where the positives end lol. Well maybe the security/privacy side.
U could try realme or oneplus for example. Just stay away of xiaomi. Crap software. Realme does very well Oneplus as well, both have same parrent company oppo btw
I seriously don't understand why Samsung isn't doing the complete opposite as Apple right now. Apple is still getting flack for their right to repair program and Samsung could easily market all their new stuff as being right to repair and their stock would sky rocket and get so much good publicity. It could've been like the Playstation and Xbox e3 back when the ps4 and xbox one were coming out where (at the time) the xbox one had to stay connected to the internet at all time, you couldn't share used games, and the kinect had to be permanently connected. Playstation then came out and did the exact opposite as them and basically one that e3 no problem.
Simple. Nobody actually cares about right to repair. Concerns about ownership rights on electronics is just a niche interest shared among hundreds of thousands to a few million people online (and keep in mind that not all of these people live within the US). It turns out that it's infinitely more profitable to be a bastard corporation like Samsung or Apple through planned obsolescence rather than cater to a niche group's consumer preferences.
Because their goal is to force apple to only use Samsung screens. It has NOTHING to do with repair and all to do with apple going to boe. Stopping repair efforts is a nice bonus
Well once a major company can successfully implement anti consumer friendly policies for financial gain, most other ones try the same thing because they're greedy and know that they can get away with it.
Not only did Playstation win but it pretty much screwed Microsoft for that generation and possibly for this generation of consoles as well. Even after they did a complete 180 on the decision and fired the CEO involved. Basically Microsoft had to resort to giving away content via Gamepass even to be in the game.
I'm still using my Sony xz premium for almost 6 years now, it's still a beast and it's 4k LCD display still blows everything around. My next phone will be a Sony for sure.
Sony don't have a very big market share and most of their stuff is premium priced. Saying that, my last 3 phones have been Sony because they have good cameras compared to the competition and I like that they are different and they skin android very lightly and don't embed malware into the firmware unlike Samsung. I doubt Sony would do anything that anti-consumer, they got themselves burned badly over things they done in the past and thought they could get away with and lost lots of respect and market share because of it.
@@ancipital They dominate the general imaging sensor market though, everything from industrial and niche specialty imaging equipment to phones and dedicated still cams/camcorders has a Sony sensor in it.
We have to find a way to stop these things from happening. We have to simplify the message so the masses understand it. Your phone will be more expensive if Samsung is the only company allowed to control this price.
Bro I agree. We have to spread the message in simpler terms.This will be devastating to so many ppl in America. Most consumers will not understand what is about to transpire if this info is not presented properly in a manner that the general public can understand it. Your phone parts will be more expensive than your actual phone if Samsung is allowed to control the system..
Oh boy I have a lot to add here. Somebody has to do something about Samsung. I bought a dryer it was delivered with an igniter switch problem. It wasn’t heating to dry, it took me a week to figure out it wasn’t me using the machine correctly, then it was past the 48 hours to return to Home Depot. Samsung told me they can’t do anything and couldn’t find anyone to service my dryer but yet there is an appliance company here that would fix it, but I wasn’t going to pay 300 dollars. So they can’t fix it and wouldn’t let me return the dryer. Then Home Depot says they won’t take it back because it’s past the 48 hours to return it yet it was delivered in non working condition.. a big headache no one wants to take responsibility for shit Samsung products.
Hopefully someone can make a phone like an S10e with updated specs and support so I can dump mine. It's the only phone with 3.5 mm and SD card that fits in my hand.
@@brayannexon4613 Just looked it up unfortunately it is 158 mm vs S10e 142.2 mm. If only they had a slightly smaller version. I actually keep an Xperia Xz1 compact as my work phone.
Why is it we can put after market parts on our cars, but not on our electronics. Why is it we can put aftermarket parts on our guns, but not our electronics?
Because an earlier generation fought for the right to repair our own cars or to pay a third party to do so. Also I'm pretty sure they're trying to stop it on new cars now. Kind of makes me glad I have to take the bus. Until I realize it takes 4-6 times as long.
@@Nirrrina Its only electronic components on cars that get this treatment, so the idea still is interesting to talk about. A power steering pump or rack and pinion, you can find non OEM, but if its electric power steering, thats when you get integrated circuits with serialized components tied to the VIN...we have gone back in time from replaceable parts to cars whos parts only worked on that one car.
@@cokemillion That's actually a lie...they cannot disable the car for aftermarket parts. The most they can do is disable supercharging (on their chargers) for cars that have been salvaged after a wreck. And they recently started a program to have the batteries re-certified for fast charging. The potential issue is, fast charging a damaged battery can cause a very dramatic fire.
Even if it doesn’t get implemented this is a huge sign that framework needs to make a phone. Fair phone isn’t doing enough to be a viable alternative especially for the US.
Pretty hard to avoid Samsung these days as they have their components/products into pretty much (more or less) anything that revolves around quality...
12:40 that gofundme was at $8k in 2 days. A day later, it's at $12.5k. Like they say in Dune, it's the slow blade that passes the shield. Constant pressure!
1:00 this is just the best way to explain libertarian principles. The state is not your friend, they don't work for you. They work for their real friends, and if it helps you, that's an unintentional side effect.
Sadly, he just took a huge sponsorship from Samsung display ( specifically the display wing of the company) which gave him unprecedented access to all their foldable prototypes. Even subconsciously, that's got to impact how eager he would be to make a big deal out of the story
This seems like a reason Apple should throw in with the independent repair people, at least for this case. I know Apple loves making your job difficult, but they also kinda thrive off independent repair. One of the biggest things that tempts me to get an iPhone and Macbook is that I can count on every single repair shop at least attempting to service them. The only other phone with a decent chance is a Samsung flagship. On a similar note, at Target a couple days ago I notice that they had half an aisle filled with iPhone screen protectors and cases and not a single one for any other kind of phone. You know what this particular store doesn't sell ... iPhones. But they do sell Motorola and Nokia pre-paid packages, which you can't buy a protector for unless you order online.
Here's the sad thing about all of this, and why I keep saying what the US really needs is stronger anti-trust laws, though this wouldn't solve Samsung's problems since it's not in the US anyways - Samsung won't be taken down no matter what public opinion does, and this is valid for all other tech giants. Samsung is far worse than even Louis is saying there. They are a South Korean chaebol with an incredibly dirty and dark history. For those who don't know, Samsung might be one of the companies that actually aided Imperial Japanese atrocities that happened during the Japanese occupation of Korea. Yeah, you who heard about all this bad blood that exists between South Korea and Japan because of comfort women cases or the atrocities committed during occupation, there are tons of evidence that some of that only happened because there was active cooperation happening there with South Korean chaebols, something that does not come up much because of how much power those chaebols have. Samsung had two consecutive CEOs arrested (father and son) and put in jail for all sorts of corruption schemes. You have harrowing stories of young employees driven to suicide inside the company because of abuses committed against them. The grasp on power that Samsung has in the country is surreal, I won't be able to explain this in a single comment. And yet, investigations on such matters are completely shut down by South Korean government because the company is too powerful, it alone controls an absurd portion of the country's economy. Samsung has hands in everything including banking, heavy industries, military complex, health sector... everything there, you name it. It got to the ridiculous point that the current South Korean president, fearing the economic downturn of the pandemic and general global economy, basically pardoned the current CEO, gave him a get out of jail free card, and told him to get back to the lead of Samsung to recover the company, and thus also the economy. This is not even bailing out hedge funds, banks and whatnot - it's literally pardoning a CEO that got in jail because of multiple white collar crimes because the country needs the guy to keep working to save the economy. At this point, Samsung's CEO could commit just about any crime imaginable and get away with it. Can you imagine that? I mean, the situation with big tech in the US is already dire enough, but Samsung basically controls South Korea. Even more now that other chaebols like LG lost ground. That's a company that didn't only monopolize the smartphone, TV or other consumer electronic market - it controls so much of the exports and output of South Korea that it basically controls the government. Now, with that in mind, you compound a general overlook of the current smartphone and other electronics market, then the scenario becomes even more bleak. For most nations all around the world, if you try to get away from Samsung and look at the competition, what we're really left with is a bunch of brands and options that are just as bad if not even worse in some factors than Samsung itself. It's monopoly from South Korea, vs monopoly in the US, vs monopoly in China. You go with this one that is trying to kill independent repair using it as proxy in a war against Apple, or you go with the other brand that has an impossible to enter walled garden with locked down phones, ridiculous prices for everything they do, and horrible costumer service practices, or you go down with these other brands that have spyware, mass private data collection that is sent back directly into the mothership, and are all at the risk of being another victim of a trade war which would make your device useless... Options are so bad that you just end up going with what is plain more cost effective. People often say that I should go with a Pixel phone, but not only it's impossible to find Pixel phones where I live, Google has zero presence here, which mean I'd have to import via grey market at high mark ups, which no way I'm doing that with a phone that already had a bunch of costumer service and bad design scandals. Not to mention Google is just another big tech I really don't think is any better than the alternatives. Brands that used to be alternatives are now in the hands of Chinese companies... such as Motorola. Apple and Sony are in the same category of unrealistic prices for the market. OnePlus is Chinese owned and was just recently caught in yet another scandal of collecting and sending private and personal data back to Singapore servers that have connection to the CCP, along with Xiaomi, Realme and other Chinese brands. I bet if Motorola phones were part of the investigation it'd end up in a similar manner, considering it's owned by Lenovo, which is based in mainland China. There is no escape here. In the end, it seems the only solution is to get whatever phone you can, and root it. We're back to this once again.
Should move for a law to exempt a part delivered solely to replace a broken patented part from patent protection. Say the patent right should be transferable from the broken one
Louis, thanks for the info. I was going to pre-order samsung S23 ultra but since they do this dirty work. I stop thinking about ordering it and stick to my old phone and then soon, i will order another brand instead! This will be my last Samsung phone until they stop scamming us.
We can potentially use the lawsuit as a point for the problem with this. Yeah 1 million isn't gonna be enough to actually compete with samsung but if everyone and their grandmother is talking about the lawsuit, that could do a lot more damage than the lawsuit itself. It may also bring the attention of a lot of people, and while I do respect you I think you tend to forget where these bigger companies get their money from, the very people they are screwing over. The main issue is just getting enough people together to form that massive lawsuit, and retaining interest in it as well.
I was afraid Samsung would be going down the anti consumer road when they started soldering the charge ports on the main board rather than a daughter board like everyone including them did, but this is so far beyond what I expected, edit : turns out they stopped doing this
@@munjee2 Yeah since very long they have been like that. The last phone I remember from Samsung to have a port soddered to the main board was the Samsung Grand Prime G530/31/32 and that is an ancient low end phone, but un the High end side of things, from the S4 they have daughterboards.
@@munjee2 Negative. I've done repairs on numerous of Samdump devices and the S7 & S8 had daughterboard layouts. Even the S5 already had daughterboard, but it was a royal pain to remove the screen in order to get access to it. Actually the later Samdump devices are very easy to pry open up, even easier than iPhone and some Moto devices like the Moto One Zoom (Which also had the USB on the Main Board, I have a video where I replace the port on that piece of junk)
this is a situation where i hate that your a highly experienced professional who knows exactly how things play out because i wish this would not be happening even tho im realistic to know it was always doomed to be that way with how all officials are too corrupt to prevent any of this.
I hope Apple could also join the fight too, also what would happen to LG? LG has their own OLED panels and sells TVs in the US. I think this is a serious case of being anticompetitive, which US isn't that big a fan of.
You do realize that fold/flip screen protectors are not just remove and replace like normal phones right... I have a flip 4 and am fully aware of this fact. $100 seems like a cheap price to pay rather than destroying your screen trying to get it done unofficially/yourself. I mean, Im not trying to be an eyesore, but why buy stuff that you can't even afford to maintain. Thats like buying a mercedes and complaining stuff is more expensive than Toyota.
06:06 adding a little bit more history here to anyone interested... HTC actually had an AMOLED screen on the Desire back then... they pushed AMOLED heavily with their marketing... Samsung stopped supplying HTC screens and launched the Galaxy S piggybacking on HTC's marketing... HTC was forced to switch displays on a phone mid-cycle... which has never been done by any brand ever since... and HTC didn't use AMOLED panels for a long time after that sticking to SuperLCD
Add that to the correlating example list showing that corporate actions are "always" an ulterior motive. No one will ever address this issue, no one addresses this issue in other industries or sectors. It's support for the corpo-state one way or other other, but never recognition of what issues and protections that are exploited which allows it and that's where the lined pockets actually come in.
4:20 holy shit this is the most cyberpunk stuff in your channel so far. I shit you not, this premise is even more catastrophic than the pseudo parody game.
![[RANT] The lower rungs on the economic ladder are gone](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/RUYUzlRgt_Q/mqdefault.jpg)
I'm not sure LG and BOE will take this lying down. If both of them and Apple jump on this, it will die. The question is, will they? Probably not. They will likely try to work with Samsung to be allowed.
Big "IF!"
@@rossmanngroup where is the if?
@@ksinitial they can write some contracts around hard stances become softer the more zeroes behind a number
Haha capitalist 'competition'
BOE could sponsor the repair industry legal case. They could do this anonymously or publically.
Every time I see "I was wrong" in a Rossmann video title I always wonder whether it's going to be an apology or an "oh boy, it's way worse than I initially thought".
And usually it's the second one...
But, but, Apple bad!
@@RandomUser2401 they are, both are terrible companies
@@Bobby11 nono. Apple always bader. Apple always evil. Even if Apple cure cancer.
Apple bad.
@@RandomUser2401 bro still thinks it's a fight between two groups of people, how cute :)
I have to wonder where im actually supposed to buy a phone now. Seems like every smartphone company is doing scummy shit one way or another.
Sadly. The heart on your comment indicates agreement, not happiness with the statement :(
Plus phones now all look the same, weigh too much, in general too big, goten rid of 3.5mm and doesn't provide dual sim + sd-card simultaneously. Such a shame to look at the industry become so trash nowadays.
@@astyd256 whats the deal with that 3.5mm? Whats wrong with the dongle, its 1 usd?
Anyway, my hatred towards Samsung just grew more
We goin back to carrier pidgons
I looked around for another company as soon as Samsung started getting rid of audio port saying that they wouldn't.
I got a OnePlus 7 which didn't have the audio jack but at least they hadn't promised to keep it.
Then that phone had connectivity issues so I looked for other brands.
I recently bought a ROG 6.
It has an audio jack, and it has good specs for the price.
If Samsung gets their way, they not only impact the repair industry, they not only impact Apple and BOE, they potentially impact legitimate competition in the oLED space even if it DOES NOT use Samsung's PenTile, such as LG.
Shipment inspector see oLED, shipment inspector see no Samsung logo, shipment inspector say no.
This is what people don't understand, and what I explained when I had my batteries confiscated: www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/cuacpn/usps_loses_1800_worth_of_packages_from_louis/exub43y/?context=3 and www.reddit.com/r/apple/comments/clgnmh/apple_refuses_warranty_repair_due_to_liquid/evx650z/?
There is no way in hell a customs inspector is going to look in a microscope to see what the pixel formation pattern is of X vendor's AMOLED and Y vendor's AMOLED. They are just going to exclude anything without Samsung logo.
This would give Samsung a de-facto monopoly.
all this creativie genius expended on using the legal system to get one up on the competition.
Simple. Manufacture somewhere else.
@@michaelgleason4791 Manufacture where else? The shipment inspector will see the display regardless of whether it came from China, Korea, Taiwan, Japan, Australia, and so on. If it's manufactured in another corner of the world, anything from Canada to Brazil to Germany, it will see another shipment inspector, one that will certainly make the same mistakes. The one and only option to continue competing would be to build a domestic manufacturing plant, which, because of how taxes and wages work in the U.S., tends to drive up operational costs, making it hard to compete with the cheaper labors Samsung will be impartial to with Chinese wage slaves.
what about some of us that are independent hardware engineers, theres lots of things i can see it negatively effecting in the iot space.
Big UA-camrs who review Samsung products (and any tech products in general) should have a duty to raise awareness to company's anti-competitive practices in their videos.
There's a reason in my 11 years on youtube I have had *one* paid sponsorship offer, from a shitty VPN company that was outed a few months later for massive data breaches.
There are ways to review products and services that are _"advertiser friendly,"_ where you are superficially critical to maintain the appearance of credible objectivity while staying within the bounds of what manufacturers consider acceptable "criticism"
and then there's _this._
_This_ ensures no manufacturer or service provider ever sponsors your content. You exile yourself to the world of getting a _"real job."_ For most people that claw their way to over a million subscribers, that's just not happening.
Massive respect to people like AvE that make it obvious from the get go they don't give a rat's ass what sponsorship opportunities they throw out the window with their demeanor, but that's not most. and it doesn't make sense; why give up the chance to make a six figure living talking into a camera by poking the bear?
You would have to be insane, once you pass a certain number of subscribers, to make content that repels easy money. Most people are surprisingly rational.
Don't expect most reviewers to mention this in a critical light, or care. If you search on UA-cam, nobody is covering Samsung's 12000 page, multi million dollar litigation against *every repair parts supplier in the country,* and there's a reason for that.
that'd be great lol, I actually think that should be a thing for a few companies.
@@rossmanngroup Sadly that is the truth. What steps would someone like me, who has 4-5 hours of completely free time each day, but no money, able to do to help fight back against this?
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@ShihammeDarc - Those are usually promotional videos. Most of the time they'll only talk about the positives about the product.
"i was wrong about Samsung"
Oh, so they're not as bad
*see the thumbnail
Oh God
Its basically bullshit backed by nukes and aircraft carriers at this point
I am absolutely sick of companies abusing the lawmaking and legal process for more profitability in a manner that ultimately screws over the average citizens. Right to repair, rail roads, foods, cars, corporate legal abuse is absolutely everywhere. Citizens must band together to prevent their government from turning to into corporatism, or to fight corporatism.
Actual financial transparency as a condition of office would alter the whole tone of politics. For public funds it would reduce inefficiency as well as curruption.
Would you be shocked to believe that the reason we've had lead in gasoline and cannabis being criminalized for decades was due to the power and influence of for-profit companies? Yeah, no weed because hemp threatened Big Paper.
Totally agree.
If the infringing products and non-infringing products are that difficult to tell apart then it's clearly not a product that can be exclusively owned. The basis of the technology means that any AMOLED even non-infringing has to be close enough.
It's ridiculous that Samsung thinks they can own a 'pattern' that cannot be feasibly determined as infringing or not.
Not only are phones less repairable than they've ever been, now they want to strangle the few individuals willing to even repair their glued monstrosities.
How are their phones changed at all repair-wise in recent history? Even the S23s follow largely the same repair process as the S6 from 8 years ago, and are frankly improvements over the S5 that required pulling the screen to do anything besides battery. We've had 9 years of "remove the back with heat and then everything's open" design, while only 4 years of heatless designs (S1-4) that often had their own significant flaws like soldered charging ports. I'm not at all disagreeing with the video or anti-Samsung sentiments, I'm just curious what's supposedly changed.
Sorry but the s22 and s23 series are extremely easy to open up. If you repair phones daily you know the monstrosities to open up are the note 8’s and 9’s 😂
@@corombb There are no flagship phones from major manufacturers with batteries intended for user replacement anymore. There used to be. The argument is not that Samsung devices have always been flawless, the argument is that their batteries are no longer intended to be user serviceable.
@@corombb - The most disturbing trend of the last few years is the serialised parts. Not sure whether it applies to Samsung, though.
yeah its called greed
"Blackberry says they stole her attention" Well yeah, I don't think Blackberries are even a THING anymo- "Blackberry, c'mon girl! Get down here!" Oh. Oh you meant the cat.
hey i love my passport and it still works as a phone!
Louis can and does openly say this, there is no real reason to buy ANY "NEW" phone anymore.
i have said this numerous times and there's nothing controversial about it
@@rossmanngroup Well thank you sir
@@rossmanngroup Edited for accuracy
Someone has to or where would all the used phones come from?
No reason? What about the battery? Those do age rather quickly even with no use.
Given how these corporations outright abuse the patent system, I have to wonder if they're any better than the Chinese companies that counterfeit their products.
Yeah it's almost as if the entire patent and copyright system is just as predatory for corporations as not having any protection whatsoever
Korean companies are no better than Chinese when it comes to industrial espionage, they just make better stuff.
I was a Samsung fan until they removed the headphone jacks. I saw the writing on the wall and jumped ship to LG (bonus points for LG's awesome built-in headphone DACs and the MicroSD card slot, even with 128GB base storage)
I wish LG was still making phones.
Still using my LG G8, even if the phone is acting a little screwy after the latest Android OS update. What an amazing phone. What a shame that they stopped making phones
I'm still using an lg g8 but it has gotten... glitchy with time. It was doing well for me at the start, and I like that it still has its sd card slot and headphone jack, both of which I make frequent use of, but the stability has left something to be desired. I was looking to try out graphene, but it seems like only phones they support are the pixels. I'd rather not lose my sd card slot in particular.
@@ManaDrain315 I got an LG Velvet 5G like 6 months ago
@@Krakaet I got an LG Velvet 5G like 6 months ago
This is like the divorced parent threatening the other parent by saying, "I'll tell the kids you cheated on me if you don't do what I want you to do." It sucks for the one parent, but it sucks even more for the kids who will grow up hearing one lie only to find that the "victim" parent lied to them, ruined their relationship and robbed them of years that could have been spent with the other parent.
Easier to "punch down" and go after the helpless ones first.
I went to finally buy some replacement parts for my S7; screen, back glass, battery, and charging port. Then I checked eBay for new old stock and found a brand new S7 for the same price as just the screen.
That battery is sooo old that's the ONLY THING needed replacement
@@aymanhawari2589 The battery was my biggest concern, now whenever my phone gets too cold it drops to 3% then quickly dies
'Brand new'
@@Shocker99 it looks like new old stock so, probably? If not it's one hell of a perfect refurb complete with stickers and packaging
@@brandonlink6568 I'd say it's probably unlikely to be new. The phone is far too old and far too many people cling on to what they're used to. There is always the potential it got lost in the stock room though. Genuinely good for you if it's new and/or you're happy with your purchase :).
Wouldn't this effectively create a monopoly for AMOLED displays?
I think LG also produces comparable phone screens
Yes, that's the point. In the previous 30 min video it is showcased better: in short, Samsung is just bullshitting for the sake of having a government regulated monopoly
Edit: also found a comment in here by Louis saying the same thing better
@@seeibe yes but if they’re OLED then they cannot be imported to the US if Samsung gets the GEO.
Literally what he says in the video…
Welcome to late stage capitalism i guess
American Consumers: Man, corporations sure are getting douchey lately.
Samsung: (cracks knuckles) You ain't seen nothing yet.
It sounds like you hate freedom ! You some kind of socialist !?
*Global Consumers
samsung is getting worse and worse and worse as time goes on the leadership is full of out of touch boomers who are very anti competitive lg needs to get into the market again and take over samsung
@@billyhatcher643 Samsung has a long track record of being duchy and this is NOT "beyond them"
I love how a company can make the argument 'It's just sooooo hard. So give us a monopoly.'
It's a shame how much greed (or whatever it is) is getting to Samsung. It used to not be that way for sure. I even restored a 1980s Samsung microwave oven that even had the schematic taped in an envelope inside of it.
It really seems they're so out of touch with reality that something large needs to change or they won't realize what may happen.
It's greed and arrogance. Back home they rule the South Korean economy. They're a chaebo, a government-sanctioned oligarchy, they're used to having their way and trampling the little guy. Sometimes quite literally.
When the new Samsung CEO got jailed by taking hold of the company using scummy means to keep family control of the whole conglomerate, both the Korean and US governments begged for his release as his imprisonment would be "harmful to the economy".
It's not greed. This is just how the system works. You either crush everyone else at every opportunity or you get crushed
@@Laura-hl3hg If it were like that then small businesses would have died long ago. No, it's just greed.
Such a setup effectively creates a de facto monopoly for Samsung by infringing on the rights of companies that make similar, but legally distinct products with their own patents.
The big companies shouldn't let that fly because of how much it'll wreck their own interests.
I can't believe I'm sticking with Google as the better giant tech company compared to Samsung for my phone supplier.
Aren't the Tensor processors in the Pixel 6/7 made by Samsung?
All big tech phone manufacturers are terrible. Pick the phone you want and don’t judge anyone else for owning a particular phone. The pendulum shifts every year, soon Google will be the worst again, then Apple, and so on. They all invade your privacy, they all want every last dollar to your name, they all use slave labor to manufacture their parts.
@@mementhusiast Designed by Google, but made by Samsung Semiconductor. Google gets a killer deal thanks to Samsung's Exynos woes and the SD 8 Generation 1 blunder.
I mean their motto is "be less evil than the competition".
We've reached a point where apple is still better than Samsung. What a time to be alive. The choice is mediocrity in fruit or mediocrity in korean
I used to think Samsung where the good guys, they allowed consumers more choice and at least some options with repair but this is probably the straw that broke the camals back, next phone or TV will be someone else.
oh no, look samsung's history and how they ended owning everything.
Sony👍🏻
I dumped apple for their anti competitive practices a decade of loyalty. If samsung think we the consumer won't dump them too, they are dreaming.
Most people who use Apple and Adobe products were too stupid to dump them when they were the only ones performing abusive anti consumer practices when the consumers had the opportunity to set the precedent by voting with their wallets.
I doubt Samsung users will act any different.
3:34 Blackberry has some strong opinions on this matter
the moment blackberry lost dominance in this market is when it all started to go downhill
@@kungfutzu3779 Blackberry is also a cat. 😸🐈
Samsung dominates the RAM, SSD, image sensor chip, and overall general semiconductor market. They produce consumer electronics in literally every market sector from washing machines to televisions, and has >25% market share in virtually every sector it has a stake in. They (Samsung Techwin) even produce military hardware -- from artillery systems to tanks to missiles to radars and electronic warfare. The only reason they don't absolutely crush every competitor they have in every sector is government regulation, not consumer backlash, and they are increasingly skilled at manipulating pro-corporation political interests in countries like the US to stymie regulation that would limit their business and foster new regulations that protect their business. The only effective solution to this problem is ensuring that the regulation limits their power. This means limiting corporate free speech in Congress and holding government representatives accountable for the actions they fail to take to limit anti-competitive business practices. Their sales of consumer electronics to end user customers, especially in the US, are only a drop in the bucket for them, and we (as customers, not voters) only have as much power as that GoFundMe.
In a way, I'm quite happy that China doesn't respect IP law. Makes it easier for customers to go to another option in case this happens, although CCP meddling is a different can of worms
Their home appliances are dogsh_t. I'll never buy their appliances.
Their issues with the 970 Evo, 980, and 990 NVMe drives are biting them in the ass. They're also second to SK Hynix's DDR5 ICs in terms of performance. Samsung's display division needs to be slapped for anti-consumerism... too bad it won't be coming from the U.S.
Last time I thought, Sony dominated the overall imaging sensor market, to include industrial and niche specialty imaging equipment, and dedicated still cams and camcorders in addition to phones, Samsung pretty much just has skin in the phone cam sensor market last time I thought.
Like, for example, Canon and Nikon use the same sensor as the a7 series in their RF-mount and Z-mount camera lines respectively, Fuji and both OM Digital/Olympus and Panasonic use Sony silicon in their X-mount and MFT camera lines respectively, even if Fuji uses their own color space and filters on that, and even Leica uses an a7-series sensor in their digital M-mount line IIRC.
I'm not aware of Samsung's position in the industrial and specialty imaging market vs. Sony's, and they exited the dedicated still cam market years ago.
@@DFX4509B Samsung owned 30% of the smartphone image sensor market share in 2022. That has dropped sharply, but they are still one of the biggest players. They are also a key player in remote sensing products in the military sector.
Can I buy one of your screens to fix my phone?
No!
Why not? I’ll pay you for it.
No!
Ok….I guess I’ll just go make my own then….
MOM!!!!
The new argument should be about e-waste protecting our landfills and the environment. I think this would be the new option to make a good compelling argument about the right to repair to keep devices that are still usable out of the landfill and being able to get parts to repair those devices to keep them out of the landfill
You would still be able to get the parts, just at an insane price. This is looking at importing and the market, not the harm to environment. Import agency isn't too concerned with that
Fat chance. I've been screaming about the amount of e-waste that will be generated in 2025 when Microsoft kills support for Windows 10. The ludicrous system requirements of Windows 11 are already having a negative impact on the second hand pc market as nobody wants to buy a computer that as far as they are concerned will only last two years at best. And I just don't see the average end user switching to linux. These big tech companies want to talk that they care about the environment but then pull crap like this....
@@codyakins3032 the ewaste won't be much worse than it already is. I don't know anyone who upgrades their hardware because the os is going to not be updated anymore
@@codyakins3032 Spread the gospel of Linux and make the Linux kernel reign supreme, regardless whatever form it is in.
Now you know why all the new LG OLED panels in TVs/monitors etc have weird pixel layouts.
I got a Samsung pre-roll ad for this video.
The irony is not lost on me.
In the late 1990s, Microsoft faced a lawsuit for engaging in anti-trust/anti-competitive practices. How is this different, and what's preventing us from filing a lawsuit again? I'm actually asking in Ernest here; I'm not familiar with legal things, so I fail to see how this is different to the point where it's impossible to do anything about it.
It seems like there's something every week now that blows the Internet Explorer antitrust case out of the water, yet somehow this has become the new norm. I'm hoping the FTC or some other government entity gets involved and files an amicus brief saying this would create an illegal monopoly and be grounds to overturn the case. Or at the very least, help appeal the decision.
The conservative movement as decided that unlimited money in politics is a good idea. Ever since then both parties belong to corporate overlords and all major decisions these days are approved by the companies on the s&p 500.
@@eligoldman9200Why must we always blame a political party for issues like this, when neither party has involvement on either side?
@@eligoldman9200 You mean the uniparty? I think the conservative movement got taken over by MAGA while the other half is part of the uniparty.
@@dangero2000 Garrett, I agree. The comment from eli was off topic.
Like yourself, I also lived through the 1990s.
I've thought about this as well for a long time. What it looks like to me, and I could be wrong, is that each of the major brands for each country, have more "power", to allow that countries technology be more globaly dominante.
I think domestic monopolies are being allowed, to allow them to be more competitive internationally.
The stakes are a lot higher today, than they were in the 1990s.
Competition is now Chinese, who DO PLAY THAT GAME, in leveraging domestic brands, allowing them to steal IP, to be more competitive internationally.
I think we should just do away with phones & just use cats to carry our messages like owls in Harry Potter.
cats aren't really committed to our schedules
@@kungfutzu3779 It'll get there when it gets there.
I see many many catnip trails in the future then
I can't have pets in the place i rent...
people need to hear this, internalize it, and never forget it.
Companies do not have principles.
us: That's a monopoly!
Senators: Look at all this cash I just got from Samsung.
Technical Perspective: Almost all color screens are based on light. Even the CRT ones. This means that they use the RGB system, lighting up and dimming a Red, Green and Blue dot. Thus, all screens have a 3 dot pattern, as it's the cheapest way to show the eye a ligh-based color.
If the ones countering Samsung don't negate their camera based on this simple fact, then "lobbying" has worked much to well...
(And yes, I know E-ink screens exist, but they are not light-based and have a very limited color range because they need to be based on a 4 pixel model. But that also means they are unable to offer the same variation as RGB.)
You say it's technicaly, but in reality the subpixel layout in displays can vary quite a bit.
Samsung's QDOLED displays used in Ultrawide monitors use a triangular setup.
Samsung's AMOLED screens are usually Diamond Pentile which is quite different from triple RGB subpixes with Blue and Red diamonds being much larger than green dots.
LG's WOLED is WRGB with a white subpixel (4 total) to boost picture brightness.
Even in LCD land, we see lots of variations for the subpixels, from being box shaped, to arrow shaped, and sometimes manufactures use BGR or RBG for some reason instead of RGB.
Its not a problem, you just do weird stuff like BGR e.g. LG OLED.
@@davidbuddy honestly, being able to copyright it down to *shapes* is a bit silly when there are physical limits to this stuff and what it takes for a monitor to work. It kinda seems like such a specific patent is kind of a stretch in credibility.
@@InfernosReaper There's supposed to be a "non-obvious" part to patents but the patent office is often not rigorous enough and leads stuff to be settled in the courts. Which has obvious issues.
I'm suprised they didn't lobby away the 20 year patent expiry stuff. Or are they scared because then RCA would still have a patent for the RGB CRT stuff...
10:25
"A screen for this phone is $300"
"But the phone is only 200 bucks"
"Well the screen for that phone is $300"
"Bet. I'll just by the same phone off amazon for less than that"
"*Nute Gunray voice* She can't do that! Shoot her!"
😂
This is truly a sad situation.Just think of the damage they will be causing to so many people who have a running business and want to start a business in the independent repair industry. This really and truly is a gut punch to the core!. Shame on them.
"Hope you're having a lovely day"
NOT ANY MORE, LOUIS 🤣😭
To Samsung:
I will NEVER buy any of your products.
To Others:
If you use Samsung parts, I will never buy any of YOUR products.
If this means I dont replace my phone, so be it. Its full of spam anyway. My Comdial 2500 land line phone is fine, and isnt frivolously trying to put tens of thousands out of business over their greed. This is actually evil.
I am right here with you.
Lmaoing at the fact that the bot impersonating louis is asking to contact them via whatsapp, they couldn't even be bothered to use signal to make it more convincing
@@rossmanngroup I know we make the argument of, what competitor do we go to when all do it...but, maybe its time to cut the cord (the other way around from those old ads), cut the bars or signal or whatever. I only use a cell phone for emergencies, so who cars if its cracked or whatnot. I am just fed up with them!
@@jeremiahbullfrog9288 Return to monke...there is wisdom in that silly meme. We dont NEED super hi def phones. Its just a phone. The economy is crap anyways so spending on electronics might not be a great idea to begin with.
Sir I can assure you I can use my phone almost anywhere. You are relegated to the the length of your modem cable and cord. I can fit mine in my pocket and take it anywhere I go.
Apple is working on Micro LED screen designs for the iPhone, iPad, Macbook, and Apple Watch. Micro LED allows individual pixels to be turned on and off so it retains the battery savings from dark mode, it is more stable at extremely high brightness settings, it doesn't suffer from image retention after extended use, etcetera. If Apple succeeds then we will have an alternative screen technology that can compete with OLED in image quality and colour accuracy.
If you understand how micro LED is manufactured, you will quickly realize that apple will never succeed unless they manage to get 100% yield rate for the micro LED. This is why they are implementing it on the apple watches only, as there are less dead pixels to worry about.
Funny thing.. MicroLED was developed by 2 Chinese ppl in the US and is already used by Samsung and Sony is some applications and it's a patented tech too.
The problem is the same if the politics don't stop this kind of thing same one can use patent system to block other suppliers that can access via legal royalties or different design.
US legal system need to prevent that kind of thing in the country but there is interest in some to not let the Chinese became bigger players in the world scenario of electronics.
In UE they make rules to benefit the people and the tech industry need to comply. And they don't allow monopoly behavior.
@@carlosgilpinheiro7510 I assume Apple’s version of Micro LED will be different enough from existing solutions to be considered legally distinct, similar to how Samsung and LG both have their own separate OLED patents.
@@JollyOldCanuck lol no
most patterns are technically invalid - overclaiming public intellectual property - the owners do not want their claims in court.
patents
@@kungfutzu3779 :) patents are patterns But thanks for the correction - IP laws are a problem as they get corrupted with time.
Surely this violates one of the three anti-trust acts? I did note that the FTC act does not carry any penalties for violations, so what is the point of that toothless tiger?
If this were to actually impact Apple's bottom line, I would like to think they'd actually want to combat this.
I've been getting sick of the spyware, preinstalled trash, forced updates I don't want, and the misery of trying to repair a smart phone....because I should surely buy a new one every year. This just helps to justify my already made decision that I'm on my last "smart" phone. I'm sick of the cr@p.
I never understood why Samsung is synonymous with Android devices to people. I've been an Android user since smartphones became a thing and I've never owned a Samsung phone in my life. There are so many good Android devices that aren't a Samsung out there.
Indeed there are, however Samsung is the most popular.
Agree, many people think Samsung = Android. Had too many people tell me that Android is slow and laggy, so I had to explain to them it's the shit Skin on top of Android.
@@funnyarc lol clown
@@funnyarc lmao nope
Samsung plays huge marketing campaigns everywhere. Samsung products are the most marketed ones and the most visible ones. Consumers buy Samsung marketing.
"Blackberry says that they stole her attention."🤣 I think she agrees with you and is displeased about the whole thing. Just love how demanding she can be sometimes.
You're the only person in the universe who pronounces it "Ommoled" and I love it
I was wondering if he was talking about a different technology
Got to break some screens to replace an ommoled
So basically, due to their actions, the results of their software, and their logistical practices, I'll be getting my next phone from someone other than samsung.
Makes me almost regret buying their stuff ten years ago.
10 years...i bought mine a year ago. And i wanted their tablet for my photography stuff. Not anymore
I'm definitely side-eyeing my S21 purchase a year ago right now.
Samsung phones have always felt like flimsy tech demo prototype toys. Feels like they're showcasing features that could be in the full product but they're not optimized or fully operational yet and full of bare minimum jank. That's where Apple wins by far, they add their signature polish and crazy optimization and make it feel seamless. But that's where the positives end lol. Well maybe the security/privacy side.
U could try realme or oneplus for example. Just stay away of xiaomi. Crap software.
Realme does very well
Oneplus as well, both have same parrent company oppo btw
sadly samsung will get what they want cause our government is very stupid and theyll give them what they want
I seriously don't understand why Samsung isn't doing the complete opposite as Apple right now. Apple is still getting flack for their right to repair program and Samsung could easily market all their new stuff as being right to repair and their stock would sky rocket and get so much good publicity. It could've been like the Playstation and Xbox e3 back when the ps4 and xbox one were coming out where (at the time) the xbox one had to stay connected to the internet at all time, you couldn't share used games, and the kinect had to be permanently connected. Playstation then came out and did the exact opposite as them and basically one that e3 no problem.
Simple. Nobody actually cares about right to repair. Concerns about ownership rights on electronics is just a niche interest shared among hundreds of thousands to a few million people online (and keep in mind that not all of these people live within the US). It turns out that it's infinitely more profitable to be a bastard corporation like Samsung or Apple through planned obsolescence rather than cater to a niche group's consumer preferences.
Because their goal is to force apple to only use Samsung screens. It has NOTHING to do with repair and all to do with apple going to boe. Stopping repair efforts is a nice bonus
Well once a major company can successfully implement anti consumer friendly policies for financial gain, most other ones try the same thing because they're greedy and know that they can get away with it.
Not only did Playstation win but it pretty much screwed Microsoft for that generation and possibly for this generation of consoles as well. Even after they did a complete 180 on the decision and fired the CEO involved. Basically Microsoft had to resort to giving away content via Gamepass even to be in the game.
I really hope Sony doesn't get any ideas for their Sony Xperia line but Sony historically has been pretty good on not following suit.
I'm still using my Sony xz premium for almost 6 years now, it's still a beast and it's 4k LCD display still blows everything around. My next phone will be a Sony for sure.
Sony don't have a very big market share and most of their stuff is premium priced. Saying that, my last 3 phones have been Sony because they have good cameras compared to the competition and I like that they are different and they skin android very lightly and don't embed malware into the firmware unlike Samsung.
I doubt Sony would do anything that anti-consumer, they got themselves burned badly over things they done in the past and thought they could get away with and lost lots of respect and market share because of it.
the unfortunate part is xperia probably use samsung based amoleds as well so they're not free from the effects of this either.
@@ancipital They dominate the general imaging sensor market though, everything from industrial and niche specialty imaging equipment to phones and dedicated still cams/camcorders has a Sony sensor in it.
@@techcommentlooker3951 They did looks like they're moving/moved to LG. Seems samsung had pretty much the whole market to themselves but not now.
We have to find a way to stop these things from happening. We have to simplify the message so the masses understand it. Your phone will be more expensive if Samsung is the only company allowed to control this price.
Bro I agree. We have to spread the message in simpler terms.This will be devastating to so many ppl in America. Most consumers will not understand what is about to transpire if this info is not presented properly in a manner that the general public can understand it. Your phone parts will be more expensive than your actual phone if Samsung is allowed to control the system..
Oh boy I have a lot to add here. Somebody has to do something about Samsung. I bought a dryer it was delivered with an igniter switch problem. It wasn’t heating to dry, it took me a week to figure out it wasn’t me using the machine correctly, then it was past the 48 hours to return to Home Depot. Samsung told me they can’t do anything and couldn’t find anyone to service my dryer but yet there is an appliance company here that would fix it, but I wasn’t going to pay 300 dollars. So they can’t fix it and wouldn’t let me return the dryer. Then Home Depot says they won’t take it back because it’s past the 48 hours to return it yet it was delivered in non working condition.. a big headache no one wants to take responsibility for shit Samsung products.
Hopefully someone can make a phone like an S10e with updated specs and support so I can dump mine. It's the only phone with 3.5 mm and SD card that fits in my hand.
Can't help with the SD card but how about the Asus zenfone 9? It has a 3.5mm jack & its suited for one-handed use
The samsung Xcover 5 is a new phone with headphone jack, sd card slot and is waterproof, small too.
Thats if you still want to buy samsung of course
Your answer: sony xperia 5 iv small has 3.5mm jack snd micro sd card slot.
ASUS Zen Phone 9.......
@@brayannexon4613 Just looked it up unfortunately it is 158 mm vs S10e 142.2 mm. If only they had a slightly smaller version. I actually keep an Xperia Xz1 compact as my work phone.
Why is it we can put after market parts on our cars, but not on our electronics. Why is it we can put aftermarket parts on our guns, but not our electronics?
Because dont own those things. Its why I dont buy electronics anymore, at least the kind that I cant buy parts for.
Because an earlier generation fought for the right to repair our own cars or to pay a third party to do so.
Also I'm pretty sure they're trying to stop it on new cars now.
Kind of makes me glad I have to take the bus. Until I realize it takes 4-6 times as long.
@@Nirrrina yeah that's true, I've heard tesla is that way about their cars. They can even disable your car is they suspect aftermarket parts on it.
@@Nirrrina Its only electronic components on cars that get this treatment, so the idea still is interesting to talk about. A power steering pump or rack and pinion, you can find non OEM, but if its electric power steering, thats when you get integrated circuits with serialized components tied to the VIN...we have gone back in time from replaceable parts to cars whos parts only worked on that one car.
@@cokemillion That's actually a lie...they cannot disable the car for aftermarket parts. The most they can do is disable supercharging (on their chargers) for cars that have been salvaged after a wreck. And they recently started a program to have the batteries re-certified for fast charging. The potential issue is, fast charging a damaged battery can cause a very dramatic fire.
Why do people think that these multibillion-dollar corporations are good honest people that have the little guys best interest?
Even if it doesn’t get implemented this is a huge sign that framework needs to make a phone. Fair phone isn’t doing enough to be a viable alternative especially for the US.
Yep, that was something I was dreaming of, though I was picturing something more like the older Fairphone 3.
How would crushing the demand not constitute harm to the market?
Pretty hard to avoid Samsung these days as they have their components/products into pretty much (more or less) anything that revolves around quality...
Do companies have a bet on who can screw over their users the most?
I have a bunch of ideas for devices (which I will probably never be able to make) and now I know who I’d never buy screens from…
12:40 that gofundme was at $8k in 2 days. A day later, it's at $12.5k.
Like they say in Dune, it's the slow blade that passes the shield. Constant pressure!
1:00 this is just the best way to explain libertarian principles. The state is not your friend, they don't work for you. They work for their real friends, and if it helps you, that's an unintentional side effect.
Can someone please make Linus aware of this BS for the Wan show. Thanks.
Sadly, he just took a huge sponsorship from Samsung display ( specifically the display wing of the company) which gave him unprecedented access to all their foldable prototypes. Even subconsciously, that's got to impact how eager he would be to make a big deal out of the story
@@michaelcorcoran8768 Damn I missed that.
This seems like a reason Apple should throw in with the independent repair people, at least for this case. I know Apple loves making your job difficult, but they also kinda thrive off independent repair. One of the biggest things that tempts me to get an iPhone and Macbook is that I can count on every single repair shop at least attempting to service them. The only other phone with a decent chance is a Samsung flagship.
On a similar note, at Target a couple days ago I notice that they had half an aisle filled with iPhone screen protectors and cases and not a single one for any other kind of phone. You know what this particular store doesn't sell ... iPhones. But they do sell Motorola and Nokia pre-paid packages, which you can't buy a protector for unless you order online.
This is something we all better start getting used to because a lot of companies are going to start doing this.
Glad to see there are already a lot of people boycotting Samsung on this and other stuff
but this needs to get out to a wider audience for sure
LG has to have something to say about this too
Here's the sad thing about all of this, and why I keep saying what the US really needs is stronger anti-trust laws, though this wouldn't solve Samsung's problems since it's not in the US anyways - Samsung won't be taken down no matter what public opinion does, and this is valid for all other tech giants.
Samsung is far worse than even Louis is saying there. They are a South Korean chaebol with an incredibly dirty and dark history.
For those who don't know, Samsung might be one of the companies that actually aided Imperial Japanese atrocities that happened during the Japanese occupation of Korea. Yeah, you who heard about all this bad blood that exists between South Korea and Japan because of comfort women cases or the atrocities committed during occupation, there are tons of evidence that some of that only happened because there was active cooperation happening there with South Korean chaebols, something that does not come up much because of how much power those chaebols have.
Samsung had two consecutive CEOs arrested (father and son) and put in jail for all sorts of corruption schemes. You have harrowing stories of young employees driven to suicide inside the company because of abuses committed against them. The grasp on power that Samsung has in the country is surreal, I won't be able to explain this in a single comment.
And yet, investigations on such matters are completely shut down by South Korean government because the company is too powerful, it alone controls an absurd portion of the country's economy. Samsung has hands in everything including banking, heavy industries, military complex, health sector... everything there, you name it.
It got to the ridiculous point that the current South Korean president, fearing the economic downturn of the pandemic and general global economy, basically pardoned the current CEO, gave him a get out of jail free card, and told him to get back to the lead of Samsung to recover the company, and thus also the economy.
This is not even bailing out hedge funds, banks and whatnot - it's literally pardoning a CEO that got in jail because of multiple white collar crimes because the country needs the guy to keep working to save the economy. At this point, Samsung's CEO could commit just about any crime imaginable and get away with it.
Can you imagine that? I mean, the situation with big tech in the US is already dire enough, but Samsung basically controls South Korea. Even more now that other chaebols like LG lost ground. That's a company that didn't only monopolize the smartphone, TV or other consumer electronic market - it controls so much of the exports and output of South Korea that it basically controls the government.
Now, with that in mind, you compound a general overlook of the current smartphone and other electronics market, then the scenario becomes even more bleak.
For most nations all around the world, if you try to get away from Samsung and look at the competition, what we're really left with is a bunch of brands and options that are just as bad if not even worse in some factors than Samsung itself.
It's monopoly from South Korea, vs monopoly in the US, vs monopoly in China. You go with this one that is trying to kill independent repair using it as proxy in a war against Apple, or you go with the other brand that has an impossible to enter walled garden with locked down phones, ridiculous prices for everything they do, and horrible costumer service practices, or you go down with these other brands that have spyware, mass private data collection that is sent back directly into the mothership, and are all at the risk of being another victim of a trade war which would make your device useless...
Options are so bad that you just end up going with what is plain more cost effective. People often say that I should go with a Pixel phone, but not only it's impossible to find Pixel phones where I live, Google has zero presence here, which mean I'd have to import via grey market at high mark ups, which no way I'm doing that with a phone that already had a bunch of costumer service and bad design scandals. Not to mention Google is just another big tech I really don't think is any better than the alternatives.
Brands that used to be alternatives are now in the hands of Chinese companies... such as Motorola. Apple and Sony are in the same category of unrealistic prices for the market. OnePlus is Chinese owned and was just recently caught in yet another scandal of collecting and sending private and personal data back to Singapore servers that have connection to the CCP, along with Xiaomi, Realme and other Chinese brands. I bet if Motorola phones were part of the investigation it'd end up in a similar manner, considering it's owned by Lenovo, which is based in mainland China.
There is no escape here. In the end, it seems the only solution is to get whatever phone you can, and root it. We're back to this once again.
RISC V is looking less promising and more necessary by the day. Having everything be open from the start makes exclusionary practices much harder
You apparently have no idea what smartphones are. Smartphones are private and personal online commucations device.
Should move for a law to exempt a part delivered solely to replace a broken patented part from patent protection. Say the patent right should be transferable from the broken one
Louis, thanks for the info. I was going to pre-order samsung S23 ultra but since they do this dirty work. I stop thinking about ordering it and stick to my old phone and then soon, i will order another brand instead! This will be my last Samsung phone until they stop scamming us.
We really need to redo the patent system with generally doing away with it entirely.
We can potentially use the lawsuit as a point for the problem with this. Yeah 1 million isn't gonna be enough to actually compete with samsung but if everyone and their grandmother is talking about the lawsuit, that could do a lot more damage than the lawsuit itself. It may also bring the attention of a lot of people, and while I do respect you I think you tend to forget where these bigger companies get their money from, the very people they are screwing over. The main issue is just getting enough people together to form that massive lawsuit, and retaining interest in it as well.
Of the corporations, by the corporations, and for the corporations.
The hilarious thing is we might get apple to help fight this if only for purely selfish reasons
Yes they will help and when they win they will take the monopoly.
Samsung: you really think AMOLED you off the hook like that? 😈😈
I was afraid Samsung would be going down the anti consumer road when they started soldering the charge ports on the main board rather than a daughter board like everyone including them did, but this is so far beyond what I expected, edit : turns out they stopped doing this
Ironically, the newer phones have daughterboard mounted ports 😆
@@thetechfromheaven that's good to hear, I haven't looked into any new phones since I got my current phone few years back
@@munjee2 Yeah since very long they have been like that. The last phone I remember from Samsung to have a port soddered to the main board was the Samsung Grand Prime G530/31/32 and that is an ancient low end phone, but un the High end side of things, from the S4 they have daughterboards.
@@thetechfromheaven I think it was the S7 or S8 that brought back soldered charge ports
@@munjee2 Negative. I've done repairs on numerous of Samdump devices and the S7 & S8 had daughterboard layouts. Even the S5 already had daughterboard, but it was a royal pain to remove the screen in order to get access to it. Actually the later Samdump devices are very easy to pry open up, even easier than iPhone and some Moto devices like the Moto One Zoom (Which also had the USB on the Main Board, I have a video where I replace the port on that piece of junk)
this is a situation where i hate that your a highly experienced professional who knows exactly how things play out because i wish this would not be happening even tho im realistic to know it was always doomed to be that way with how all officials are too corrupt to prevent any of this.
I hope Apple could also join the fight too, also what would happen to LG? LG has their own OLED panels and sells TVs in the US.
I think this is a serious case of being anticompetitive, which US isn't that big a fan of.
my view would be as soon as the warranty runs out so does their claims
I believe Samsung Display and Samsung Electronics are fairly independent subsidiaries. Does this extend to PC and television screens?
Same company
And then the same crappy companies talk about environment. The fact that they say they care is the biggest bullshit ever.
the US patent system is a perfectly balanced system with no exploits whatsoever
Property trolls: Allow us to introduce ourselves...
Remember when Samsung were fined for paying trolls to trash HTC?
black pilled yet?
The government doesn't destroy monopolies, it makes them permanent.
Samsung tried to charge me $100 for a screen protector replacement on my fold 3. Samsung ain't seeing another direct dollar from me
You do realize that fold/flip screen protectors are not just remove and replace like normal phones right... I have a flip 4 and am fully aware of this fact. $100 seems like a cheap price to pay rather than destroying your screen trying to get it done unofficially/yourself. I mean, Im not trying to be an eyesore, but why buy stuff that you can't even afford to maintain. Thats like buying a mercedes and complaining stuff is more expensive than Toyota.
Canon's already doing something like this on a much smaller scale blocking third-party lenses from being manufactured for RF-mount.
thank you ... AGAIN.. for exposing this BS
9:24 Excuse me, did Blueberry explode?!
getting a samsung ad for this video is such a wierd mood.
also yeah screw you samsung.
Right to repair. Or ban them from the US market!!!
It is about time our governments supported the consumer rather than the big tech companies.
I wasn't aware of this. Probably best that the message is short and concise and easily understandable by everyone.
I was going to buy a new Samsung fridge and microwave to replace the current 10 year old Samsungs. Not anymore.
06:06 adding a little bit more history here to anyone interested... HTC actually had an AMOLED screen on the Desire back then... they pushed AMOLED heavily with their marketing... Samsung stopped supplying HTC screens and launched the Galaxy S piggybacking on HTC's marketing... HTC was forced to switch displays on a phone mid-cycle... which has never been done by any brand ever since... and HTC didn't use AMOLED panels for a long time after that sticking to SuperLCD
It sucks because I've always loved my samsung phones. I'll probably end up getting a refurbished one next upgrade just to stick it to them a little
Add that to the correlating example list showing that corporate actions are "always" an ulterior motive. No one will ever address this issue, no one addresses this issue in other industries or sectors. It's support for the corpo-state one way or other other, but never recognition of what issues and protections that are exploited which allows it and that's where the lined pockets actually come in.
Wow, that is very sad to learn. Shame on Samsung.
Great work, keep shining that Light on these monsters!
We keep slipping further into dystopian futures
4:20 holy shit this is the most cyberpunk stuff in your channel so far. I shit you not, this premise is even more catastrophic than the pseudo parody game.