Hilarious. Wife sitting in judgement, old car shell sitting on the back patio, various piles of detritus strewn in the backyard in case you ever need anything, mad scientist projects going on everywhere. I like this guy.
Love your work mate, learning so much from you. Your vids are fun, stylish and hugely knowledgable. Your editing style is quick and efficient viewing too which is very nice! Much cheers and looking forward to future projects :)
I bloody love this. I am tuning in because I have arrived at that time in my life where I am investigating solar....and more importantly investigating DIY solar!!!! But I am an Aussie who has lived OS since 1998 and I absolutely am loving the Aussie banter especially with the missus. Made my day. OI OI OI
Great job Pete! I can see you’re not afraid of some really hard work. Looking forward to seeing that beasty battery on the wall of that nice new container!
3:40 "Rules are rules, right, so let's follow 'em to the book" ...you know what that symbol on your shirt means, right? I shed a single tear when you said that
Hey mate, noticed your car in the background and recognised it, live just around the corner from you, what are the odds. Where do you get all of your 18650s from? Have a good one.
@@HBPowerwall Obviously still consult professionals. As Legalese is a mindfield. But Andrew Reddaway who wrote the other article also seems to believe it is an "and" in his "Overview of the new standard" section
Lol to be honest it’s been over 2 years since I last watched one of your videos... I was with you from the very early days... and must congratulate you on how much you have progressed and how polished the videos are now
This just prove Everything can be done by hard Work and ideas. Moving the Shelter i Would know enough ppl who never thought this could be done by Hand. Great job
Anarchy shirt "...rules are rules, right? so let's follow 'em to the book..." Anarchy shirt. I am going to believe this was on purpose. I laughed heartily.
Reminds me of about a decade ago I helped my father move a whole addition which became a shed. We would leverage it up with poles, put some cut lumber under it, and then push it to roll the lumber and move the shed inches at a time. Actually went pretty well.
@@HBPowerwall that is very cool! I have my own EV project, E-Minor, inspired by Bad Obsession Motorsports, and have a lifelong passion working on old British cars like my Austin Healey sprite. The joy of putting all the new (or freshly refurbished) bits back into shape, is awesome!
@@HBPowerwall thats a pretty good effort! I had 2 weeks to try to get ready for a special event, and this is all I got done.. ua-cam.com/video/wpeuYifB1l8/v-deo.html
Dumb question. It has been suggested, over and over, that I put a BMS on my Chevy Volt cells, meaning, each 4.0 V cell, in every pack. Why wouldn't it be equally appropriate to put a BMS on each and every one of your individual cells ? or am I missing something ?
@@HBPowerwall Nope. Watts, Amps and Voltage mean almost nothing to me. Series and Parallel? The context of those +'s and -'s is completely lost on me. Actually, now that I've said it. Would you ever do an electricity for dummies video?
There are some aspects of the mount I really do like, but I have serious reservations as well. The first is it seems the cells are being used as part of the mechanical structure (i.e. the weight of the pack is resting on the bottom cells). This could be asking for trouble especially when considering this second issue. A battery wall is a stationary object right? Well the unfortunate reality is this statement is only ~99.999% true. During an earthquake or other natural disturbance, I suspect there is a possibility the packs could simply fall out of the mount. Since we have little to no warning of when these types of events occur, this might pose a serious safety risk. I do like the simplicity of the design and how easy it is to swap packs in and out if needed, but the above concerns would force me to look for ways to modify it so they are addressed. Anyone have any ideas on improvements? If the mount was installed in an electrical enclosure, maybe the door could also act as a locking mechanism to prevent the bottom of the pack from kicking out? PS. Great job on using the shipping container...don’t think you’d have to worry too much about burning something down :) BTW, this is my single biggest fear with building a DIY power wall and still thinking through how to overcome it - unfortunately I don’t think my neighbors or wife would appreciate the shear beauty of a shipping container.
Very interesting project! I do wonder whether the bus bar exit from each pack should be strain relieved somehow, as it looks pretty easy to accidentally tear up the nickel sheet when handling or connecting up.
“Rules are rules so let’s follow them to the book”….while wearing an anarchy shirt. 😆 I like your technique of driving a stake into the ground and using it as an anchor point for the winch.
Video would have flopped with out all the comments about the shirt - but honestly it was an ebay purchase with out any thought to meaning lol - driving the stake into the ground was the wifes idea.. not sure why heheh
So was there a reason why you cut down a 20ft shipping container and not use a 10ft explosives container? or even a 10ft hi-top or 10ft standard container? as I build with 40ft, 20ft, 10ft and other more exotic configurations. Cutting, welding, painting costs is all.
@@TheGuruStud Tesla rnd is stealing already existing tech and ideas and rebrand it, market it as some kind of new age tech that solves all the worlds problems and sell it and make billions. sound about right?
@@HBPowerwall tesla RND, lmao. Talk about clueless. To be fair, any build will probably be better and cheaper then a tesla wall. I built all of my energy walls out of donated modem and laptop batteries. But we also don't call inspectors, thats what idiots do that want to get their own shit shut down.
@@theldraspneumonoultramicro405 everybody uses existing technology to make things. Did Apple come up with any new technology with the iPod? Or the iPhone?
I watch your last video on how you assembled the stack of batteries but I failed to figure out why you would have these batteries in the first place. Is it for power outage where you live or something else?
To be honest 4 years ago it started as a joke - it got out of hand - it saved money on my powerbill - it made money on youtube - i couldn't stop ..... it's like a love story lol
Простите, я не понимаю английский. Но к увиденному у меня возникли вопросы. А вы учли те пару нюансов к аккумуляторным сборкам? 1) Ток идёт по наименьшему пути сопротивления. Какими идеальными небыли бы аккумуляторы, внутреннее сопротивление у них разное. И из-за этого, при зарядке сборки из тысяч аккумуляторов, больше половины аккумуляторов не зарядятся и до половины заряда, в то время как некоторые аккумуляторы уже будут в перезаряженном состоянии (заряд батареи выше нормы ). И в ходе эксплуатации, медленно но верно, один за другим, аккумуляторы будут выходить из строя, по пути наименьшего сопротивления. 2) Заряд аккумулятора и отдача энергии аккумулятором, происходят за счёт химического процесса происходящего внутри аккумулятора. В ходе этого химического процесса выделяется тепло. Аккумуляторы находящиеся в центре этой аккумуляторной сборки будут перегреваться, от перегрева они потекут, лопнут и вызовут короткое замыкание. Так что, первый вопрос - как вы будете контролировать уровень заряда каждого аккумулятора из тысяч аккумуляторов, что бы не допустить заряда аккумулятора выше нормы? Второй вопрос - как вы будете охлаждать аккумуляторы, особенно те которые находятся в центре?
В похожих сборках для машин Тесла блоки были сборные с одинаковыми хар-ми. К каждому блоку были подведены датчик и зарядник свой. Все блоки омывались трансформаторным маслом. У меня на шуруповерте стоит всего 3 таких аккумулятора и для них есть балансировка и датчик температуры. А ещё я сам паял такие аккумуляторы, после чего некоторые стали греться и умерли. Их нельзя вообще паять, а у автора половина блоков спаяно. В этом железном контейнере аккумуляторы перегреются на солнце и полыхнут аки ясно солнце. К тому же Б\У аккумуляторы такого типа вообще не имеют смысла т.к. по хар-кам они хуже новых свинцовых аккумуляторов, но гораздо требовательнее к балансировке и заряду. Короче, мужик лучше бы поставил деревянный домик и внутри за те же деньги свинцовые аккумуляторы было бы эффективнее, дешевле и больше было бы ёмкости.
@@AleksandrArtroom HBPowerwall говорит что - " Total max charge/draw is 0.33 amps per cell... issues disappear " - " Общая максимальная зарядка / потребление составляет 0,33 А на ячейку ... проблемы исчезают ". Реально, в сборках Тесла учли эти факторы и как то решили их - ua-cam.com/video/TdUqQZC2dcE/v-deo.html . 0.33 А на ячейку при зарядке , от части согласен, перегрев и перезарядка аккумуляторам не страшны с такими токами. А разрядка, чем он контролирует сколько отдает каждая ячейка? При разряде аккумуляторы тоже греются. + С такими токами, сколько дней будет заряжаться эта установка. " У меня на шуруповерте стоит всего 3 таких аккумулятора " - что это за шуруповёрт такой? В съёмном блоке от шуруповёрта там их 9 или 12 таких батарей. Или вы имеете ввиду мелкий шуруповёрт-отвёртку? В общем, что то не вызывает доверия данная установка. Производители ноутбуков в гарантийном талоне указывали, что гарантия на аппарат 1-2 года, а на АКБ гарантия пол года. Даже если не от перегрева или перегруза, то просто от срока годности эти аккумуляторы начнут выходить из строя. Ещё и Б/У аккумуляторы. У мужика реально слишком много свободного времени и денег заниматься такой фигнёй - паять 19000 батареек :)
0:50 ... so ... the block weight (how many lbm?) is held by lower battaries. Not sure if it safe in time to load a cell like with side load. It was not designed to provide structural support.
Check out the overview here of the new regulations - renew.org.au/renew-magazine/solar-batteries/new-battery-installation-rules/ and you can download a draft copy of those regulations here - www.smartenergy.org.au/sites/default/files/uploaded-content/website-content/dr2_as_nzs_5139_2019_pc.pdf.pdf
Nanny state and securing jobs for the boys again. Soon you will need to a call in an electrician to put bread and pull toast out of a toaster or make a cup of coffee (unless you use gas stove then its a licensed plumber).
I think they had good intentions - doing stuff safer is a thing - we will see how it plays out. I NEED to talk to a sparkie in person and start talking through my plan and make a solid plan to move foward - fingers crossed I can set the standard and help everyone along the way
Man these rules are harsh, thankfully all my battery builds so far have been portable and as a result don't suffer from these new rules. Seems the best way to still make your own battery systems will be to make it in a big chest and put wheels on it, although that doesn't help if you want to make a powerwall integrated into a house's mains wiring (then again doing that without an electrician was already illegal). This situation seems similar to the FPV drone hobby. When the rules become so extreme that everyone is breaking at least one of them, it becomes easy to ignore them all together.
Smoke detectors, alarm, power disconnect, heat sensors and automatic extinguishers? Wouldn't you want to protect your investment? How do the pros handle this?🤔
I’m here to tell you even the pros put their battery packs in a container and if you have a thermal runaway you close the container door and let it burn itself out. Not much will stop a lithium fire
Alan Hillyard where does the smoke go? Wont the container explode? Doesnt need a fire oxygen from the outside? If so, this container will be a big ass long lasting enviroment warmer without oxygen and fire burning.
HBPowerwall I bet it’s expensive they make you pay one way or another if you’re not paying for electricity ☹️ ..Can’t wait to see the Build once you’re done ..It should be awesome 👏
I'm wondering chicken or the egg... do I start lining the shed or wait for all the parts to lay them out and make sure there is support for them. As well as electrical layout
Yeh, had a few small complaints about the audio - didn't have another few hours to go through it all over again to fix. The auto level is a horrible tool on PowerDirector
Yeah I'm the same, and it's actually painful because of my tinnitus. I have to turn up the voice to hear it, but then the music blows my ears out. Ears are supposed to naturally adjust for volumes, but mine are set to 11 permanently.
Also the generic UA-cam royalty free music is not only terrible it's also in millions of UA-cam videos and therefore annoying and it does not add any value to your otherwise great videos.
@@SidneyCritic Tinnitus by itself shouldn't be painful. Could be clogged earwax, or a brain tumor. Or anxiety disorder (don't worry it's definitely maybe not a tumor)
Looks good. But why 18650 and how do U replace em when they fail? I was going to make one (much much smaller) on 18650 but any calculations says that LiFePO4 is easier to build and cheaper to buy. They also bigger and easier to replace. PS @ recovered from old laptops@ OK so you got them probably cheap. But it is still time consuming process of testing them, right?
Great videos and content 👍👍, subbed ✌️. I thought about doing something similar when I had a 6kw solar system put in but according to energy Australia I am already using all of it through the day and have no extra to store lol
Hey Man over here in NZ seems a bit hard to source 18650s, any main place you suggest i can find some or buy at a price with out loosing a arm and a leg. Thanks
Now your talking about alot of work sir, Whoa! The rules are regulations are crazy...But honestly prolly needed..Good luck sir, keep the videos rolling...
I moved a box similar to your box by my self, I bought 20 PVC pipes that were a foot longer than my box was wide. Laying them on the ground under the box, I was able to slide it back. Yes, I would uncover a pipe and move back behind. I had 2 sand bags to stop it from rolling too far. One in the back, one in front, move the bag to keep it from rolling back. Move the bag in back, drop in a pipe and keep going. Hardest part was getting all the pipes out from under. A floor jack did the job.
Just now i got some laptop batteries I got some Samsung's LG's US18650GR i don't know what are these and i also got irritating SANYO's we don't trust these. So that's all in my case! 😊
Dad used to say, "Some people work harder getting out of work, than if they just worked". I thought of that when you said to your wife, you did not like to work.
Tell her it’s a bomb shelter and the russkies will be at the gates in about a week. If that don’t fix nothing then yes, green light’s on for replacement.
@@HBPowerwall nice but mixed used battery doesn't seem a great idea to me.. i prefer smaller and new one, like LG INR, nice project anyway, subscribed.
@@AsitShouldBe My other battery is 4 years old and seems like a fantastic idea to me .. New would be nice but i can't afford that on this storage scale.
Hello, thanks for the second video, ok I have understand why you had chosen cells HS in blue, ok the big container for the enormous battery ! More space for your project ! Good job man !
Sorry, I don’t understand English. But to what I saw, I had questions. Have you considered those a couple of nuances for battery assemblies? 1) The current goes along the smallest resistance path. No matter how ideal the batteries would be, their internal resistance is different. And because of this, when charging an assembly of thousands of batteries, more than half of the batteries will not charge up to half the charge, while some batteries will already be in a recharged state (the battery charge is above normal ) And during operation, slowly but surely, one by one, the batteries will fail, along the path of least resistance. 2) The charge of the battery and the release of energy by the battery occur due to the chemical process occurring inside the battery. During this chemical process, heat is generated. Batteries located in the center of this battery assembly will overheat, from overheating they will leak, burst and cause a short circuit. So, the first question - how will you control the charge level of each battery from thousands of batteries, so as not to allow the battery to charge above normal? The second question is how will you cool the batteries, especially those in the center?
@@HBPowerwall By "per cell ..." you mean each battery separately, or battery assembly 0:05. If you mean the battery assembly, then I agree - with such currents it is not afraid of overcharging and overheating, only I'm afraid to imagine how much it will charge. But if you mean each battery separately, then you will not control it. Because of this, modern laptops get rid of such batteries, since they charge differently because of different resistance and varying degrees of wear.
@@HBPowerwall Also should put a roof over it as old containers tend to leak overtime plus the gap between the container and the roof you can store your railing then only have to deal with tree snakes.
I like your new battery box. One thing I would like to see is one box just for battery's and electronics somewhere else. So if there was any accident you would only loose second hand batteries Not everything. Even separated your batteries in half. Starting to get scared of dendrites. Being the cause of a fire on old batteries.
![Cutting open an LG 18650 battery for science [ amateur video warning ]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/per8ybI55bI/mqdefault.jpg)
Hilarious. Wife sitting in judgement, old car shell sitting on the back patio, various piles of detritus strewn in the backyard in case you ever need anything, mad scientist projects going on everywhere. I like this guy.
Thats going to be our electric mini!
"Rules are rules" wears anarchy t-shirt...
THAT was not intended got the tee off ebay thought it looked cool at the time
Still though.. I love the irony
@@payton1284 No, it had heaps of creases in it.
I'll see myself out. :D
@@droopy_eyes saying anarchy is childish is quite the statement as you would not be living an easy life right now if not for anarchy
There are so many governments trying to be nanny-states. If someone wants to live off grid, let them.
Now I can see why there is a world shortage of Lithium cells…..You’ve got them all 😳
this pile is like only 20% of my stash lol
You can get a lot from the junkyards but you'll need to clean and test each one.
Save a little cash.
@@arguescreamholler What mythical junkyards do you speak of? The ones around me only accept scrap steel and don't allow people to pick through them.
@@arguescreamholler a wrecked Tesla with these cells will run you $40,000.
Right between the vape industry and this guy
"Rules are rules lets follow them by the book" while wearing an Anarchy shirt had me, not gonna lie.
Turns out it was a cleaver yt algorithm hack :)
Love your work mate, learning so much from you. Your vids are fun, stylish and hugely knowledgable. Your editing style is quick and efficient viewing too which is very nice! Much cheers and looking forward to future projects :)
Glad you like them!
I bloody love this.
I am tuning in because I have arrived at that time in my life where I am investigating solar....and more importantly investigating DIY solar!!!!
But I am an Aussie who has lived OS since 1998 and I absolutely am loving the Aussie banter especially with the missus.
Made my day.
OI OI OI
She is no longer.. OI OI OI...
Great job Pete! I can see you’re not afraid of some really hard work. Looking forward to seeing that beasty battery on the wall of that nice new container!
Ooh i hate hard work.. but people sure like watching someone else do it lol
3:30 "Rules are rules" he says while wearing an anarchy shirt.
Nah, I'm just kidding, he's a good man.
A better man than I. This is very impressive.
Didn't even know what it ment at the time.. cheap ebay shirt lol
3:40 "Rules are rules, right, so let's follow 'em to the book" ...you know what that symbol on your shirt means, right? I shed a single tear when you said that
Just one - you're a heartless human!
SHIPPING CONTAINER!! Finally! :D
only because you did hehe
@@HBPowerwall lol
@DIY Projects lol
Hey mate, noticed your car in the background and recognised it, live just around the corner from you, what are the odds. Where do you get all of your 18650s from? Have a good one.
I got all these ones from a local school via. a recycle center..
You're not a big enough youtuber to be so stand-offish about a neighbor saying hi.
@@brandonkish5816 says you though, aye?
The first time he posts yard video and he gets comments like these
@@Millsie18 If he was dead set on priggish anonymity he wouldn't have put his company car in a shot at 7:46
Mini is the company car, take 12 seconds to find me on google lol red one not mine.
When you are completely against giving Tesla a dime 😂😂
or don't have enough dime to give them!
"whose voltage is at least 12 volts"
Well, there you go.. Reconfigure the battery to be 3s 40000p and you are exempt. Whoop Whoop
NO - look again max 1kwh
I need clarification sparkie here in a few days
@@HBPowerwall Did you notice the word AND, not OR?
I didn't
@@HBPowerwall Obviously still consult professionals. As Legalese is a mindfield. But Andrew Reddaway who wrote the other article also seems to believe it is an "and" in his "Overview of the new standard" section
I would even argue that the system is a UPS - it's effectively the same bloody thing!
Lol to be honest it’s been over 2 years since I last watched one of your videos... I was with you from the very early days... and must congratulate you on how much you have progressed and how polished the videos are now
Thanks buddy, not all polished as it take SOO much extra time i really don't have.
This just prove Everything can be done by hard Work and ideas. Moving the Shelter i Would know enough ppl who never thought this could be done by Hand. Great job
Anything is possible - your wife just has to let you 😆
Anarchy shirt "...rules are rules, right? so let's follow 'em to the book..." Anarchy shirt. I am going to believe this was on purpose. I laughed heartily.
It wasn't but I worked out how to hack youtube algorithm - the comment section interaction has been fantastic lol
I got a question how is your battery cooled liquid? Or air?
Air, but I built the battery. Built it properly - it will NEVER get hot even under 150 amps of charging current.
3:40
"Rules are rules"
- Man with anarchy t-shirt
it's lit up the comments section for sure lol
Reminds me of about a decade ago I helped my father move a whole addition which became a shed. We would leverage it up with poles, put some cut lumber under it, and then push it to roll the lumber and move the shed inches at a time.
Actually went pretty well.
It's only gota work with what you have
Is there project footage of the mini mate?
There is as it turns out - ua-cam.com/play/PLVtgHS9JIte9BN8E4bbpwH2DCE-EbUHRW.html
@@HBPowerwall that is very cool! I have my own EV project, E-Minor, inspired by Bad Obsession Motorsports, and have a lifelong passion working on old British cars like my Austin Healey sprite. The joy of putting all the new (or freshly refurbished) bits back into shape, is awesome!
I had a weekend off and binge watched BINKI from start to finish in one day... inspiring stuff they do
@@HBPowerwall thats a pretty good effort! I had 2 weeks to try to get ready for a special event, and this is all I got done.. ua-cam.com/video/wpeuYifB1l8/v-deo.html
Fast forward 2 years into the future and Pete is trying to fit in another 10,000 cells and he's cursing he cut the container in half 😂
why is UA-cam telling me this comment has 0 likes even though I just liked it xD
Wll the plan started with putting all my cells in there so 75kwh of useable storage BUT might have to change that plan to comply
@@BenCos2018 It showing up for me Ben 👍
@@HBPowerwall I have a 20ft container at the bottom of my garden that's empty the moment and now considering moving it to use for my powerwall 🙂
@@healeydave Same here now
UA-cam decided to break for me lmao
It even had my username on this comment as I am C for some reason xD
Dumb question. It has been suggested, over and over, that I put a BMS on my Chevy Volt cells, meaning, each 4.0 V cell, in every pack. Why wouldn't it be equally appropriate to put a BMS on each and every one of your individual cells ? or am I missing something ?
Your missing something - I only need one BMS per 191P battery
I too, hope to someday have a wife as helpful as yours.
I hope so too! no really that was like blue moon shit right there lol
@@HBPowerwall mi bypass
4:45 they are all helpful - but the useless part
predominates... sorry for telling the TRUTH ... understand every guy who is gay ... sorry
2:40 "Extra layer of safety".... glad he mentioned safety, didn't see any so far 😂
Would the 1000s of cell level fuses be considered safety?
Electricity is confusing magic to me. It's amazing to see people DIY this kind of stuff.
To be fair it's just + & - so far
@@HBPowerwall Nope. Watts, Amps and Voltage mean almost nothing to me. Series and Parallel? The context of those +'s and -'s is completely lost on me.
Actually, now that I've said it. Would you ever do an electricity for dummies video?
That isn't my type of video i like to film my adventures and really try hard not to teach so much
@@HBPowerwall Ah. Dont stress it. I understand the liabilities at least. Lol.
You're an idiot. 🤷♂️
OOOOOO Finally got your shipping container!!!!!!💥🤘
Only been talking about it for how many years lol
There are some aspects of the mount I really do like, but I have serious reservations as well. The first is it seems the cells are being used as part of the mechanical structure (i.e. the weight of the pack is resting on the bottom cells). This could be asking for trouble especially when considering this second issue. A battery wall is a stationary object right? Well the unfortunate reality is this statement is only ~99.999% true. During an earthquake or other natural disturbance, I suspect there is a possibility the packs could simply fall out of the mount. Since we have little to no warning of when these types of events occur, this might pose a serious safety risk. I do like the simplicity of the design and how easy it is to swap packs in and out if needed, but the above concerns would force me to look for ways to modify it so they are addressed. Anyone have any ideas on improvements? If the mount was installed in an electrical enclosure, maybe the door could also act as a locking mechanism to prevent the bottom of the pack from kicking out? PS. Great job on using the shipping container...don’t think you’d have to worry too much about burning something down :) BTW, this is my single biggest fear with building a DIY power wall and still thinking through how to overcome it - unfortunately I don’t think my neighbors or wife would appreciate the shear beauty of a shipping container.
A simple bracket made of clear plastic strip could be attached to the top/bottom which would secure it in place
hell yea man.. quality of your videos are getting more an more awesome
cheers from the USA
Much appreciated! its a hell of a lot of extra effort but the stats make me smile
Very interesting project! I do wonder whether the bus bar exit from each pack should be strain relieved somehow, as it looks pretty easy to accidentally tear up the nickel sheet when handling or connecting up.
Yes they should design works but lacks in mechanical strength.
“Rules are rules so let’s follow them to the book”….while wearing an anarchy shirt. 😆
I like your technique of driving a stake into the ground and using it as an anchor point for the winch.
Video would have flopped with out all the comments about the shirt - but honestly it was an ebay purchase with out any thought to meaning lol - driving the stake into the ground was the wifes idea.. not sure why heheh
So was there a reason why you cut down a 20ft shipping container and not use a 10ft explosives container? or even a 10ft hi-top or 10ft standard container? as I build with 40ft, 20ft, 10ft and other more exotic configurations. Cutting, welding, painting costs is all.
All I could find
Another Good one!!! Can't wait to see it done!!
You and me both! Then i can bet back to working on the mini
Would building one myself be any more legal/safe than a Tesla Powerwall?
Tesla Powerwall would be 1000000x safer than this just by the nature of new cells with newer chemistry, and millions of dollars in RnD
@@HBPowerwall lol, Tesla rnd, that's a good one
@@TheGuruStud Tesla rnd is stealing already existing tech and ideas and rebrand it, market it as some kind of new age tech that solves all the worlds problems and sell it and make billions.
sound about right?
@@HBPowerwall tesla RND, lmao. Talk about clueless. To be fair, any build will probably be better and cheaper then a tesla wall. I built all of my energy walls out of donated modem and laptop batteries. But we also don't call inspectors, thats what idiots do that want to get their own shit shut down.
@@theldraspneumonoultramicro405 everybody uses existing technology to make things. Did Apple come up with any new technology with the iPod? Or the iPhone?
I greatly appreciate the time lapse of your dog helping you dig a small trench beside your work....good boy!
She is great at creating useless holes i have to mow around!
came for the batteries, stayed for the guy moving a shed the entire video.
it wasn't in the script lol much rathered installing the bms
Spectacular... Judge... Love it!
Thank-Yoiu
I watch your last video on how you assembled the stack of batteries but I failed to figure out why you would have these batteries in the first place. Is it for power outage where you live or something else?
To be honest 4 years ago it started as a joke - it got out of hand - it saved money on my powerbill - it made money on youtube - i couldn't stop ..... it's like a love story lol
Love your Aussie understatement, "it was a little bit of a challenge", looked like a nightmare to me, anyway thanks so much for this, so helpful!
it was hell, but this is youtube, gota make it look easy hehe
4:20 "With absolutely no help from my wife"
NONE! lol
You perspire, while she leaves and returns only to observe and annotate ‘transpiration’.
Простите, я не понимаю английский. Но к увиденному у меня возникли вопросы. А вы учли те пару нюансов к аккумуляторным сборкам?
1) Ток идёт по наименьшему пути сопротивления. Какими идеальными небыли бы аккумуляторы, внутреннее сопротивление у них разное. И из-за этого, при зарядке сборки из тысяч аккумуляторов, больше половины аккумуляторов не зарядятся и до половины заряда, в то время как некоторые аккумуляторы уже будут в перезаряженном состоянии (заряд батареи выше нормы
). И в ходе эксплуатации, медленно но верно, один за другим, аккумуляторы будут выходить из строя, по пути наименьшего сопротивления.
2) Заряд аккумулятора и отдача энергии аккумулятором, происходят за счёт химического процесса происходящего внутри аккумулятора. В ходе этого химического процесса выделяется тепло. Аккумуляторы находящиеся в центре этой аккумуляторной сборки будут перегреваться, от перегрева они потекут, лопнут и вызовут короткое замыкание.
Так что, первый вопрос - как вы будете контролировать уровень заряда каждого аккумулятора из тысяч аккумуляторов, что бы не допустить заряда аккумулятора выше нормы? Второй вопрос - как вы будете охлаждать аккумуляторы, особенно те которые находятся в центре?
В похожих сборках для машин Тесла блоки были сборные с одинаковыми хар-ми.
К каждому блоку были подведены датчик и зарядник свой.
Все блоки омывались трансформаторным маслом.
У меня на шуруповерте стоит всего 3 таких аккумулятора и для них есть балансировка и датчик температуры.
А ещё я сам паял такие аккумуляторы, после чего некоторые стали греться и умерли.
Их нельзя вообще паять, а у автора половина блоков спаяно.
В этом железном контейнере аккумуляторы перегреются на солнце и полыхнут аки ясно солнце.
К тому же Б\У аккумуляторы такого типа вообще не имеют смысла т.к. по хар-кам они хуже новых свинцовых аккумуляторов, но гораздо требовательнее к балансировке и заряду.
Короче, мужик лучше бы поставил деревянный домик и внутри за те же деньги свинцовые аккумуляторы было бы эффективнее, дешевле и больше было бы ёмкости.
@@AleksandrArtroom
HBPowerwall
говорит что - " Total max charge/draw is 0.33 amps per cell... issues disappear " - " Общая максимальная зарядка / потребление составляет 0,33 А на ячейку ... проблемы исчезают ".
Реально, в сборках Тесла учли эти факторы и как то решили их - ua-cam.com/video/TdUqQZC2dcE/v-deo.html .
0.33 А на ячейку при зарядке , от части согласен, перегрев и перезарядка аккумуляторам не страшны с такими токами. А разрядка, чем он контролирует сколько отдает каждая ячейка? При разряде аккумуляторы тоже греются. + С такими токами, сколько дней будет заряжаться эта установка.
" У меня на шуруповерте стоит всего 3 таких аккумулятора " - что это за шуруповёрт такой? В съёмном блоке от шуруповёрта там их 9 или 12 таких батарей. Или вы имеете ввиду мелкий шуруповёрт-отвёртку?
В общем, что то не вызывает доверия данная установка. Производители ноутбуков в гарантийном талоне указывали, что гарантия на аппарат 1-2 года, а на АКБ гарантия пол года. Даже если не от перегрева или перегруза, то просто от срока годности эти аккумуляторы начнут выходить из строя. Ещё и Б/У аккумуляторы. У мужика реально слишком много свободного времени и денег заниматься такой фигнёй - паять 19000 батареек :)
ok fair enough, i'll give you a sub for the hard work ;)
I'll take that :)
0:50 ... so ... the block weight (how many lbm?) is held by lower battaries. Not sure if it safe in time to load a cell like with side load. It was not designed to provide structural support.
Had a test rig set up with built batteries in it for 6 months no deflection of the mount or damage to the cell or cell holders
@@HBPowerwall i would check the affected cells capabilities in time.
I maintain my battery better than my cars...
@@HBPowerwall just those 2 cells which carry load of block. Not entire battery/block.
:- ) Thanks for the update
You bet!
Big monster pack 18650 😍😍
Seen bigger :P
@@HBPowerwall
I just started with 100p 7s
;D
Check out the overview here of the new regulations - renew.org.au/renew-magazine/solar-batteries/new-battery-installation-rules/ and you can download a draft copy of those regulations here - www.smartenergy.org.au/sites/default/files/uploaded-content/website-content/dr2_as_nzs_5139_2019_pc.pdf.pdf
Nanny state and securing jobs for the boys again. Soon you will need to a call in an electrician to put bread and pull toast out of a toaster or make a cup of coffee (unless you use gas stove then its a licensed plumber).
I think they had good intentions - doing stuff safer is a thing - we will see how it plays out. I NEED to talk to a sparkie in person and start talking through my plan and make a solid plan to move foward - fingers crossed I can set the standard and help everyone along the way
@@HBPowerwall do you have a link to part 1 btw?
Man these rules are harsh, thankfully all my battery builds so far have been portable and as a result don't suffer from these new rules. Seems the best way to still make your own battery systems will be to make it in a big chest and put wheels on it, although that doesn't help if you want to make a powerwall integrated into a house's mains wiring (then again doing that without an electrician was already illegal).
This situation seems similar to the FPV drone hobby. When the rules become so extreme that everyone is breaking at least one of them, it becomes easy to ignore them all together.
ua-cam.com/video/PenPYwa00CA/v-deo.html
3:29 Says "rules are rules ... let's follow them to the book" while wearing a T-shirt with an anarchy logo. Like a boss.
BOOM, thats how I do ebay tees
What happens if one battery bursts into flames? Will it start a chain reaction and others will start to burn also? How could that be prevented?
One would hope the CID activates , if that doesn't the cell fuse, if that fails the container will contain the fire till it burns itself out
Smoke detectors, alarm, power disconnect, heat sensors and automatic extinguishers?
Wouldn't you want to protect your investment?
How do the pros handle this?🤔
@@HBPowerwall ua-cam.com/video/Q4qQ1IV4gWQ/v-deo.html
I’m here to tell you even the pros put their battery packs in a container and if you have a thermal runaway you close the container door and let it burn itself out. Not much will stop a lithium fire
Alan Hillyard where does the smoke go?
Wont the container explode?
Doesnt need a fire oxygen from the outside?
If so, this container will be a big ass long lasting enviroment warmer without oxygen and fire burning.
Lots of work moving that container ..Got to give you Credit not easy Will be awesome once done ✅ 👍
Researching linings for it - DAM fire rated stuff is expensive
HBPowerwall I bet it’s expensive they make you pay one way or another if you’re not paying for electricity ☹️ ..Can’t wait to see the Build once you’re done ..It should be awesome 👏
I'm wondering chicken or the egg... do I start lining the shed or wait for all the parts to lay them out and make sure there is support for them. As well as electrical layout
The voice volume is mighty low, and the sound effects WAY too loud.
HOWEVER, I find it fascinating what you've done so far.
Yeh, had a few small complaints about the audio - didn't have another few hours to go through it all over again to fix. The auto level is a horrible tool on PowerDirector
Yeah I'm the same, and it's actually painful because of my tinnitus. I have to turn up the voice to hear it, but then the music blows my ears out. Ears are supposed to naturally adjust for volumes, but mine are set to 11 permanently.
Also the generic UA-cam royalty free music is not only terrible it's also in millions of UA-cam videos and therefore annoying and it does not add any value to your otherwise great videos.
@@SidneyCritic Tinnitus by itself shouldn't be painful. Could be clogged earwax, or a brain tumor. Or anxiety disorder (don't worry it's definitely maybe not a tumor)
It’s probably a tumour 😆
this is really cool, great work
Parabéns pelo sistema, muito bom um dos melhores que já vi.
Looks good. But why 18650 and how do U replace em when they fail? I was going to make one (much much smaller) on 18650 but any calculations says that LiFePO4 is easier to build and cheaper to buy. They also bigger and easier to replace.
PS @ recovered from old laptops@ OK so you got them probably cheap. But it is still time consuming process of testing them, right?
The build video your way would let’s face it prey average lol 😂
Great videos and content 👍👍, subbed ✌️. I thought about doing something similar when I had a 6kw solar system put in but according to energy Australia I am already using all of it through the day and have no extra to store lol
Thanks for the sub! Also if you're in Australia and have the premium feed in tariff you'll loose it! But if your only getting 6-13c it's well worth it
Hey Man over here in NZ seems a bit hard to source 18650s, any main place you suggest i can find some or buy at a price with out loosing a arm and a leg. Thanks
It's harder to find them here also - I got these from a local school via a recycler
@@HBPowerwall Cheers Love your vids can wait to see ya next one on ya 25kw setup
Interesting to see what mayhem your upto mate, can't wait to see what it turns out like.. BTW what has changed in your laws.. just curious!
Everything, lol renew.org.au/renew-magazine/solar-batteries/new-battery-installation-rules/
@@HBPowerwall Ouch solar just got real expensive.
I admire your commitment to this project.
Thank-You..
Now your talking about alot of work sir, Whoa! The rules are regulations are crazy...But honestly prolly needed..Good luck sir, keep the videos rolling...
You got that right! But gota be done...
I moved a box similar to your box by my self, I bought 20 PVC pipes that were a foot longer than my box was wide. Laying them on the ground under the box, I was able to slide it back. Yes, I would uncover a pipe and move back behind. I had 2 sand bags to stop it from rolling too far. One in the back, one in front, move the bag to keep it from rolling back.
Move the bag in back, drop in a pipe and keep going. Hardest part was getting all the pipes out from under. A floor jack did the job.
Nice
I hope you have some kind of ventilation for those cells the last thing that you want to do is over heat them they can rupture
Yes - naturally
@@HBPowerwall what do you use all these cells for?
OMG! That is awesome! Well done
Thank you so much 😀
Just now i got some laptop batteries
I got some Samsung's LG's US18650GR i don't know what are these and i also got irritating SANYO's we don't trust these.
So that's all in my case! 😊
Good old Sanyos lol
@@HBPowerwall Yeah These are heaters lol
And i got 9 of them oh man 🤦♂️. 🤷♂️
"My solution to their problem" - that is classic! Good video.
sure as hell isn't my problem lol well it kinda is now but ..........
Could you bury the container underground?
i guess so bad dam that'd be one hell of a job
It would rust out!🤔
Dad used to say, "Some people work harder getting out of work, than if they just worked". I thought of that when you said to your wife, you did not like to work.
lol
Moving that thing was hard! How difficult is it to get a new wife in Australia?
Going to say that would be a rewarding task lol even if it took way longer replacing would be easier than fixing HAAHAHA
Tell her it’s a bomb shelter and the russkies will be at the gates in about a week. If that don’t fix nothing then yes, green light’s on for replacement.
Cool work!!
Thank you! Cheers!
Any electrician who looks at this would facepalm.
Why?
Fuck me i'm ment to do all that before it's installed?
dam I got two feet, that'll add 60 bucks to the project costs... might as well give up now and bin the whole lot..
what's the purpose of this battery?
Will be a part of my house battery to store all that extra solar energy
@@HBPowerwall nice but mixed used battery doesn't seem a great idea to me.. i prefer smaller and new one, like LG INR, nice project anyway, subscribed.
@@AsitShouldBe My other battery is 4 years old and seems like a fantastic idea to me .. New would be nice but i can't afford that on this storage scale.
@@HBPowerwall with that battery and solar power are you indipendent from line energy?
Nar. I use a lot of power, grid is a cheap backup
Glad to see you got your shipping container 👍.
Me too! took a while but my hand was pushed ... at least SHE helped lol
Hello, thanks for the second video, ok I have understand why you had chosen cells HS in blue, ok the big container for the enormous battery ! More space for your project ! Good job man !
Thanks for watching!
How much charge does this hold compared to the tesla powerwall 2? So pretty much how many Tesla powerwall 2s of power does your set up hold?
About 2
Sorry, I don’t understand English. But to what I saw, I had questions. Have you considered those a couple of nuances for battery assemblies?
1) The current goes along the smallest resistance path. No matter how ideal the batteries would be, their internal resistance is different. And because of this, when charging an assembly of thousands of batteries, more than half of the batteries will not charge up to half the charge, while some batteries will already be in a recharged state (the battery charge is above normal
) And during operation, slowly but surely, one by one, the batteries will fail, along the path of least resistance.
2) The charge of the battery and the release of energy by the battery occur due to the chemical process occurring inside the battery. During this chemical process, heat is generated. Batteries located in the center of this battery assembly will overheat, from overheating they will leak, burst and cause a short circuit.
So, the first question - how will you control the charge level of each battery from thousands of batteries, so as not to allow the battery to charge above normal? The second question is how will you cool the batteries, especially those in the center?
Total max charge/draw is 0.33 amps per cell... issues disappear
@@HBPowerwall
By "per cell ..." you mean each battery separately, or battery assembly 0:05.
If you mean the battery assembly, then I agree - with such currents it is not afraid of overcharging and overheating, only I'm afraid to imagine how much it will charge.
But if you mean each battery separately, then you will not control it. Because of this, modern laptops get rid of such batteries, since they charge differently because of different resistance and varying degrees of wear.
Hey now you have more roof space for the new array lol. and the supervisor is always right.
You got that right!
This looks like a fun project! now to find 5,000,000 batteries! xD
Give it a crack and upload away!
gee pete you snuck that one in heh heh
are you referring to the container? the PLAN was spend months building it out and do a single hour long video with the whole install
@@HBPowerwall buuuut you got too excited and couldn't wait ??? or is there a series of videos coming to our eyeballs soon ???
No - laws changed and needed a part two on my last video lol
your a hard worker nice
Body doesn't think its nice..
Is that a 20ft HC container?
chopped in half ...
Good doggi helping with the digging 6:05.
She excels at laying concealed landmines & digging holes just large enough so the mower wheels fit in.
What did the container cost?
$2750 delivered
Love your Video keep your head up man
Thanks buddy
Your system looks more effective than the Tesla Powerwall. Ever thought of comparing both ?
Capacity alone its far past a single power wall. But efficiency and power delivery ? I think not
I would love to directly compare both but that would be far to expensive for this little tuber
@@HBPowerwall Don't call yourself little. You're great
If container is on blocks, it makes a great place to store conduit, pv rails, scaffording etc.
Good place for the snakes to hide too... Conversation with wifee is that we should concrete it all before anything else happens
@@HBPowerwall Also should put a roof over it as old containers tend to leak overtime plus the gap between the container and the roof you can store your railing then only have to deal with tree snakes.
Add roof over top will aid with cooling - double skin effect
SOLAR ROOF!!!
i got the solar mounts lol
Awesome videos mate great content really enjoy seeing your progress it’s incredible.
Thanks a ton!
Aussies are the best cool work mate keep the good vids rolling.
Yes they are 👍I can't disagree lol and will try, quite time poor these days with family/work balance
Smart man, and an enjoyable video. Good explanation of what you are doing and what stage you are at so that there we're no misunderstandings.
In progresss
Love the time lapse. Most people have No idea what work really is
I can usually tell if i worked hard by the two days in bed recovering lol
Very cool project! Moving that storage unit looked like a real pain.
My back is still reminding me i'm 45 and it was a dumb idea BUT it was cheap so that was a win.
@@HBPowerwall U needed some friends and lots of beer, Most of the beer for after moving it
Looks good mate
Thanks 👍
Whats the temperature in your shed? I have been wanting to do solar on mine, but it gets pretty hot in there.
Hotest i've seen for longer than an hour is about 50 but we have fan pumping around in there. I can work in there batteries should be fine
Came for the batteries stayed for the dog.
Had to edit out that dog taking a dump on camera right where i was working... lol
"I'm a computer tech" *heavy breathing*
I know how you feel...
LOL😂
I'm confused. Did you continue with this project? I cant see any more videos on this shipping container in your channel?
Container is now full of mini parts :P but the build is competed and at it new home running some critical gear offgrid
I like your new battery box. One thing I would like to see is one box just for battery's and electronics somewhere else. So if there was any accident you would only loose second hand batteries Not everything. Even separated your batteries in half. Starting to get scared of dendrites. Being the cause of a fire on old batteries.
I agree but the budget is completely wiped out for at least a good few months
I’m still very jealous of you and your amazing system
Thank-you
u do a magnific job man, gg
Thank ypu
Ohh yeah, love that t-shirt!!!
lol
Are the battery terminals soldered?
They are crimped
"Pulled myself heaps today"😂
Look i'm not saying its true... but it is...
Been sitting on fire waiting this
on fire?
@@HBPowerwall in my mother language it means that im very excited for this lol
Oooh Thank-You
Great job to see, you have lot of patience, WOW
Thank you! Cheers!
You simply amazing my man!
I appreciate that!