Mortal Kombat X (Comic) Kritique
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"Fujin, you fuckup, where were you?"
"I was doin' this"
*crane pose*
Mans got his priorities straight
Or
"That's not good enough, f*ck you. I kill you now."
(Gets me every time. X3)
42:46
say what you want about Skarlet, but she somehow manages to sneak 5 different outfits into the few appearances she has
@@mrthanos8140 The only good thing.
Truly a fashion icon /j
The barbie of Mortal Kombat 😂
The fact that the MKX Comics spent so much time on Takeda only to just unceremoniously dump him in the garbage bin for MK11 in is just astounding to me.
Tbf they dumped the comics in the bin as well
" *GET OUTTA HERE!* " -Scorpion
@Siper I love the “oh my one being”
Fucking cringe asf
I can't help but reading it in an italian accent.
I thought that was funny
2:30-2:37
Kotal Kahn is treated with respect in the MKX comic but he's a joke in the game stories NetherRealm really buried Kotal Kahn in the games.
He got W A S H E D
If he had his wheelchair he would be a badass.
They completely butchered his character
Yeah it's like kotal lost his head trying to develop his character
Kotal was a main eventer turned jobber. Even got washed in his own reveal trailer.
The whole idea of Scorpion being an aspect of Hanzo’s character could have easily been brushed aside as the representation of his rage and hatred, not some overly-done “Superpowered Evil Side” thing.
Not to mention Hsu Hao is revealed to been killed by MK11 Erron Black as part of his forced retcon.
NRS as always can say "b-b-but its multiverse!"
@@ShadowSumac Or maybe Hsu Hao keeps getting rebuilt after every death.
Or scorpion could’ve killed present hsu hao and erron could’ve killed the past hsu hao
I mean...MK11 is literally about all kinds of alternate timelines so...
@@cactusmalone It... kinda is.... Like, yeah.
Unless you think that Jacqui's existential crisis, Raiden's glimpse into the different instances of him fighting every iteration of Liu Kang ever, Kronika confirming said phenomenon by saying that him telling her that he'll stop her is something she's heard countless times before, Sindel being evil all along as opposed to her original concept, the exact details of who killed Jerrod (at this point, I'm convinced that it was Shang Tsung who did it while morphing into Sindel, Shao Kahn, and D'Vorah with every blow. Hell, that might as well be with who keeps claiming credit for it), the final battle against Kronika, and by who claims the hourglass by the end, all don't count.
And I didn't even initially include Kronika giving contradictory promises to everyone she tried recruiting to her side. Literally everyone important in the game is fighting for a timeline they want to have happen.
NRS tried to turn mortal kombat into dc comics when they wrote mk11's story and they failed....
This story had so much potential. It should've had arcs going on outside the main conflict. Stuff such as past Bi Han having interactions with Liang or his Wraith form and everything else. Liu and gang should've been the main focus while the others encounter temporal anomalies. Finally Dark Raiden should've been around longer. It's a shame.
Like look at the Cyber Labs. We see Sub Zero models yet Human Smoke and his revenant are MIA. We could've had a decent Lin Kuei civil war with Bi Han and Liang fighting Frost and Sektor's Tekunin. We could've had past Scorpion encounter Takeda and after the conflict he realizes Hanzo's words are true and the Shirai Ryu have been restored and worthy warriors exist to take the mantle of grandmaster.
So many ideas yet no proper implementation.
It makes me frustrated.
@@jessiesewell4076 And with time travel, it should have been fanservice galore with a bunch of interesting and fun scenarios and gimmicks. Tons of room for character growth. MK 11 is just lame, but with some nice details scattered about
@@boyoboyo2272 and unfortunately Mileena wasn’t in the story hopefully the rumored aftermath 2 is real tho
The way I see it, the current MK teams are made up of people that don't like or don't care for Mortal Kombat, and people that love Mortal Kombat; and they've compromised to make a product they deemed acceptable and profitable in the "modern" "climate," with a rotating and constant in-game market, that's common in f2p games like mobile games or Fortnite...
Eh dc comics isn't that good nowadays or is that with marvel?.... Eh what's the difference?! 🤷🏿♀️
Not gonna lie, I almost had a fucking Heart attack when Maximilian suggested that Shawn Kittelsen should start writing for Capcom's Fighting Games... The Sheer Impact of hearing such Nonsense almost floored me
He did that...?
@@stainedclassv0114 He was talking about the Future of Capcom games after Ono's departure in a Stream a few months back, he mentioned how Capcom's Story Modes in Fighting Games are a disaster and that Capcom should get someone like Shawn Kittelsen to write them because he was "At least Trying"...
As much as I love Max, he is a big NRS apologist, a Lot of the time justifying their bad decisions even if they don't even have any justification whatsoever
@@zatoru01he can have his own opinion
Can we agree that Takeda and Scorpion's relationship is one of the few good parts of modern MK
That's the best one to me
I just love how it is Christmas and Snake is rocking the Santa hat like a champ In the thumbnail.
It’s old skhool mane
It seems to me that the bulk of MK's current writing boils down to "Did you get that reference? You remember THIS character, right? Isn't it cool that they're here?! Time for another reference!" Like, Aftermath constant use of "Finish him" and call backs to the movies were pretty jarring to me and took me out of the story.
Would it be counted as a nostalgia trip?
@@thomasraines1396 Just saw this. Sorry for the late reply. To answer your question nostalgia is fine and dandy. But to me, it felt so overused that it came across as a crutch rather than a wink and a nudge to fans.
@@machine1685 it’s fine but I was going off the idea they’re using nostalgia to bait fans.
@@thomasraines1396 Oh I know and that is most definitely what they were going for. But it felt like they were over relying on it.
@@thomasraines1396 Less of a trip and more of a guided tour.
I think this proves the NRS never check the stories twice
Implying they check ONCE??
XD
@@Ramsey276one I mean someone has to check it once for it to be made at least
They don’t care.
@@thomasraines1396 Not really it seems which makes me wonder why they try
@@mrb4783 money because they people will buy their shit.
History/Geography mistakes: The comics say that Kortal landed in South America, where he met the Aztecs, but the Aztecs lived in Mexico, which is part of North America. Also the Aztecs were a freaking empire the day the Europeans landed, so definitely not a defenseless peaceful village.
That does sound very in character of the writer, retconning bloody world history.
@@Mateus_Carvalho, the writers at WB Studios both in the Mortal Kombat games and the DC entertainment side of WB Studios are filled with SJWS, and SJWS loves to retcon historical events in real life and retcon world building in entertainment.
@@RoronoaZoro-ur6hr There are three lies in that statement.
My apologies, but isn't Mexico and the rest of the countries between the US and South America, Central America? Could just me being tired and wrong atm.
@@rev0568 Mexico is in North America, Central America is commonly considered part of North America, but if you consider it as a separate thing between the continents it'd go from Guatemala to Panama. It not like continents make sense regardless. I just googled and some people do put Mexico in there even if in matters of continental mass it doesn't make much sense, but Europe being a continent also doesn't make sense.... The point is, definitely not South America
The4thSnake: “God of Useless...”
Phelous: “Flawless Reference!”
I can’t believe there was a time I actually defended Shawn Skittles’s writing
don't worry everyone makes mistakes
@@mrthanos8140 true both mk11 stories are sweaty ass cheeks
@@mrthanos8140 true it should not take them that long but we all know it will
@@mrthanos8140 True sadly
@@rayhoyer4829 you know at first i kinda liked Mk11 story, but after time i noticed how many plot holes where there, and now is just another mk11 shity story
Wasted Plotential: Hsu Hao
It's his middle name.
@Jacob Cordoba He looks lame.
@Jacob Cordoba That's the problem.
He was just too godly for the writers to handle it
Wasted plotential: NRS
Honestly, NRS missed the boat by not making a Shirai Ryu game in the same vein as Shaolin Monks. It would have added a lot of depth to Scorpion and Takeda's characters.
Great. If my favorite character is not getting killed in someone else's ending he's being reduced to random lackey. That being Shujinko.
List of easy story fixes.
1. The Blood Code - A type of blood magic that manipulates the essence of the One Being which exist in all beings.
2. The Kamidogu Daggers - That where the 1st versions of the Kamidogu the Elder Gods used against the One Being. Even though they failed because they still possess great power the Elder Gods kept them.
3. Establish that the Scorpion persona in a separate persona created by constantly infusing his soul with Hellfire, and by conquering it his Hellfire is forever his to control with risk of said persona reappearing.
4 Skarlet's Suit - Skarlet's suit, similar to a Red Lantern, is made of blood, and by manipulating the iron is said blood she can make it like a leathery suit, hard as armor, or transparent enough to absorb blood through it.
More on the way.....
Good stuff! Keep it coming
Cheers for the shout out, was happy to help! Merry Christmas!
The Mayans actually died out before the Spanish were around. This kind of irks me about the comic because they could’ve done something interesting with it because the reason the Mayans died out is mostly not confirmed yet.
Yep, that's right. I think it was only the Aztec and the Inca Empires which were ruling before the Spanish started to colonize the two continents.
There were a few Mayan cities still around when the Spanish arrived. However, the Mayan empire was long dead. The Spanish did not destroy the Mayans, but they did gobble up the leftovers.
This is most informative, thanks.
Most archeologists believe the maya empire ended because of droughts and poor crop seasons causing famine.
We’ve gotten to play as multiple individual members of the Lin kuei, special forces, black dragon and the white lotus. I would’ve loved to play as someone from the Shirai Ryu beyond Scorpion, we got that with takeda. But Forrest Fox could’ve been a cool new member and best friend to takeda instead of being a mind controlled puppet of havik. “Such wasted potential”
Ikr
Well if the comics aren’t considered canon maybe in the future forrest fox can show up in a main mortal kombat game
So basically the comic series is a whole bunch of bad writing, inconsistent retcons and member-berries...got it. Thanks for the heads-up.
'member when sindel was well written?
oooh i 'member!
In that regard its identical to modern NRS writing
42:46 I really can't fault his logic. That pose was really impressive
The comics aren’t about the story they are about the gameplay
The fuck does that mean?
@@pancakesthealmighty1530 it was a joke
@@pancakesthealmighty1530 It means that the comic is literally for braindead people who only focus on the action, it feels like what if Michael Bay wrote a comic.
Comic is easily better in the game. Especially since the game's story has moments that are so spread out, it could barely be said to have formed a story.
Although I do remember watching this video I don't remember commenting on this so sorry
One thing I really dislike about the comics is it’s portrayal of Havik. In the midway timeline he wasn’t a evil character, just a being whose purpose was to bring chaos, while in the comics he’s a generic power hungry villain with little depth.
Hotaru was probably more evil. That’s something I like about MK sometimes, how they can have characters that look evil be good or neutral (like Sindel or Nitara) and characters that look good be evil (like Ashrah)
@@thecollector4332how's Ashra evil? She's a demon hunter
Nah this havik is way better than midway’s he’s just way more interesting midway havik actually has 0 depth and nothing going for his character
@@valentinom.4292wasn’t her sword cursed though
@@Deathmare235 It's more of a gift than a curse. The more demons she slains the more she's purified. When she kills enough bad creatures, she can escape hell.
I don't mind that the females in MK 11 have more conservative designs, but at least make it fit the character. Skarlet is one of the few women that makes sense to wear skimpy revealing outfits and she gets covered from head to toe in nearly every outfit.
@@bandana.7077 I actually like Skarlet's default skin, I just hate it on her. If that same outfit were given to someone like Ashrah i'd love it.
It would be like Quiet from Metal Gear Solid: The Phantom Pain wearing a full body suit.
@@thomasraines1396 To be frank, that is kinda different. Their is a difference between making a character who needs to be nude or skimpy on purpose and the like.
And simply keeping continuity and in world logic from previous games.
@@AbstractTraitorHero there isn’t a difference I was simply pointing out the sheer lack of logic that has been applied to Skarlet and drawing a comparison between her and Quiet.
@@thomasraines1396 I was merely saying Quiet is someone one could raise an eyebrow at far more due to being an original character in one game.
Unlike scarlet who has backstory and continuity and is supposed to be the same character in the sequel
Me waiting for the mk11 kritique: sees this video
Me: a surprise to be sure but a welcome one
Right? I'm also still waiting for wasted potential Reptile
Someone I talked to in another forum once suggested that Frost is older than the Kombat Kids but a combination of freezing herself to preserve her youth and her general immaturity make her appear younger than she looks. I guess this makes about as much sense as anything else.
My biggest issue with the comics is what they did with the Shokans. The MKX game says they didn't bow to either Mileena or Kotal which makes sense, they probably didn't see either as fit to rule and Mileena losing the might of the Shokans adds up with how she ends up losing the throne to Kotal. The Shokans randomly serving Kotal, only for Goro to jump back to serving Mileena makes no sense, they pretty much did it just to get Goro out of the way and make Sheeva the new ruler.
Kotal was Kahn and goro hated kotal
@@Deathmare235 but why would Goro and the Shokan kneel to Kotal in the first place of they didn't agree with him being Kahn? For Goro to be cool with it only for him to change his mind doesn't make much sense, the Shokan being totally neutral and staying out of the civil war does.
Characters in MK are either: Introduced just to be forgotten (like Tremor and Ferra/Tor, Nitara, Khameleon, etc), loved just to don't appear or not be playable in later game or in case they were badly receive they just kill them offscreen.
The4thsnake is now my Santa cause he gave me the best Christmas mass gift ever
I know right 😊
yes
Santa is a capitalist slaver who has the power to stop horrific cruelties around the world, yet chooses not to. Unlike Santa, Snake isn't a corrupt monster.
@@Bacxaber Shut up Santa denier
@@MrDavicovic Santa doesn’t exist. If he did then he would be a criminal for breaking into people’s houses. On top of that people treat him like a god. He is not real. And I’m just getting started but I’d rather not waste my time with this.
I like to think the reason for human/scarred Sub-Zero is the theory that when the timeline is altered, the universe will try to correct itself.
I think that Shawn buddy forgot he was writing an MK character and so he transformed Scorpion into a Spawn knock-off. I'm actually really annoyed, cause the comics' art, albeit inconsistent, looks pretty dope. What a waste...
Nice pfp
If we're talking about 2nd chances, can NRS please give Kai one. Also, it would be cool if Fox was a character (before he obtained the dagger)
Kai could've been a capoeira fighter, as they originally planned.
@@ShadowSumac They could have his moveset be a combination of sone shaolin martial arts and capoeria. That honestly would be pretty cool.
But... The comics aren't about the story, they're about the art. XD
(Yes, this is a joke to most fans who say "fighting games aren't about the story, they're about the gameplay", in case anyone is wondering.)
30:20 love how they put sub-zero in the yamcha pose
This video gave me a headache. The amount of inconsistencies and retcons make Sonic 06 look like a fucking masterpiece.
Yeah, I just said that.
In fairness, '06 ends with it retconning itself out of the timeline. Can't say that for NetherRealm's crap.
@@Umbra_Ursus With the how things are, MK12 might be a hard reboot / restart of the series.
And as sad as it is, I don't give a damn anymore, that's coming for a guy for whom MK was big of most of his life.
@@ShadowSumac off topic but which MK game did you start?
@@ShiftyGuy777 I've learnt about MK around MK2 (through the sticker album) and the first game I played was MK3.
@@ShadowSumac ah I see
And apparently these writers say Shao Kahn isn't a god now....absolute stupidity
As a Stryker Fan i really wish they wouldn't give up on him. Make him a Special Forces member who looks and moves like Chris Redfield. He works in other fighting games. People don't mind human characters using skill and weapons to make up for supernatural powers. Look at Rambo!
Nah keep him as swat team.
@Trevor White eh they basically took Strykers traits and gave it to Sonya
@@nabilahmed579 i like him as swat as an origin story but he'll eventually have to join the Earth Forces to fight Outworld. Makes sense to have him join Special Forces
@@issa4767 I can see where u coming from but remember how story got shitted on badly just on SF. That’s why I don’t want him there, he’ll just get shit on like the rest of kombat kids, I do feel like there was a wasted plotential with him and kabal and now that u have orderrealm coming into the next expansion, striker definitely fits and u can compare him with likes such as mainly hotaru, who is a complete harsh dictator when it comes to laws and punishment. However with Twitter going fucking haywire, there might be a chance of him not coming back which is a shame bcoz I thought he was cool in mk9 and I do think it’ll be nice to have all revenants in one game.
@@issa4767 I also hate they gave his baton moves to Cassie who is one of the most hated characters for good reasons as well
I actually thought it was the mk11 critique😂😂 but I’ll take it .....been binging on his previous critiques
Same. Got hyped for nothing lol.
gotta say, I find the concept of someone dying of blood loss in the mortal kombat universe hilarious, like the games are so cartoonishly bloody im surprised characters dont squirt blood in their idle animations
One thing that made me so damn confused when reading this MKX comic series was, HOW. THE. HELL. did Skarlet manage to steal Kotal's blood dagger when she was never even shown or hinted to be at the battle between Kotal's army and the Shokans?? When I turned to the next chapter and suddenly out of nowhere, Skarlet had the dagger, I was mad confused.
The Kana/Jubei fuck up could've easier fixed by Scorpion just saying "My Family.."
“Quote from the video we all watched”😂😂😂
Explain? Link please
Oh, boy. Whether it’s 4th Snake poking fun at MK or embracing some small elements that are acceptable, I love when he talks about MK. I already got my snacks ready.
Cassie kills Mavado but she didn't want to kill Frost. That was just stupid.
@@mrthanos8140 I don't think it's canon, well most arcade endings aren't canon.
Mavado was cold blooded killer, Frost was a stupid brat.
@@ShadowSumac Frost is also a cold blooded killer, damn, she killed her mother.
@@ShadowSumac, it depends on the timeline because the 3D era of Frost she was cunty murder whereas the WB Studios era of Frost she’s a murderous SJW, so either way she’s murder that’s killed hundreds to millions of innocents people, and she never seems to acknowledge the death toll that she’s caused unlike Scorpion where after being best friends with Kuai Lang he reflected on the amount of innocent lives that he’s killed, and he knows that he’ll have to live with the guilt of the victims that he’s killed for the rest of his life, and that’s why Scorpion is both the face of the franchise and universally loved and praised in the Mortal Kombat community.
@@mavadofgc2840 It was not known at the time of the comic book.
"That, or a bias against the 3D Era"
This, because its popular to shit on the games that saved MK from dying as a franchise and are better than people give credit.
@@fightingmedialounge519 They are serviceable at least.
@@ShadowSumac they have to polish the animations thats it really.
It's not perfect but despite the many flaws I still like the comic,I enjoy the relationship between Hanzo and Takeda,I like seeing Havik again and it's story is still better than MKX story.
Though when it comes to fighting game comics I think Udon Street Fighter does the best.
Took you quite a long time, but eh, it should be worth the wait.
This what happens when have a writer who barely knows shit about Mortal Kombat and a company too lazy to actually give a shit about its story.
@TheKillSwitch oh god.......the cringe
@@starrsmith3810 at least one writer got fired
The hu hsao thing is exactly how I feel about it. He’s got so much untapped potential and they never use any of it with a lot of characters
I wouldn't put it past them just to Take Out Hsu Hao's parents before they even meet. Like, they hate him THAT MUCH?
What potential does he have 😂 he’s literally a Kano copy
@@Deathmare235he copied nothing except for laser, and even it was on his chest instead of and eye. And then from MK9 Kano has Hsu Hao's chest laser
Who?
I was pretty indifferent to Striker back in the Midway timeline. I ended up liking his new take in MK9.
I did originally read maybe the first and second parts of the comic and then just forgot about it. After your analysis, I'm kinda glad I did forget. I found it pretty hard to follow and it didn't help that MKX also had a story jumping around the timeline.
The comics are so good though, you should’ve watched it
1:30 Why does Hsu Hao have normal eyeballs? Didn't he had black eyes and red pupils?
Also, I felt disappointed when Hsu Hao and many others were killed out of spite, they could have made them cooler, but like Sub-Zero said.
"such wasted potential"
I honestly never understood hate for Hsu Hao. While his design wasn't the best, he was... kinda cool. I mean, he obliterated SF headquarters all by himself (which was why Jax "marked" him for death, hunted down last remaining Black Dragon members and was supposed to be the top enforcer in Red Dragon. Not to mention that he actually had a decent moveset and pretty cool fatality.
No idea why everyone gave up on him after Deadly Alliance. Real shame.
@@whyareyoureadingmynickname8158 He's seen as another Kano ripoff by the fandom.
But Kano's cybernetics is not exclusive to him, also he's MK's dedicated wrestler, Jax is also a wrestler but not too much.
It doesn't help the fact they only used the Red Dragon for 2 games.
@@whyareyoureadingmynickname8158 my guess is that many saw him as a weak replacement for Kano. Not enough to separate him from Kano.
Though Kano is probably a bigger Jobber and joke than Hsu Hao, at least he dies quickly and doesn’t stay alive to be the Sonya Family punching bag.
24:54
It was at this point I was laughing (kinda of a cough and a laugh because I have a cold right now) with my mother about the absurdity of either one or two 17 year old girls sonehow beating a full grown man in his 20s to his 50s in fisticuffs, when said man has decades of experience fighting and also has fought some of the best soldiers on the planet.
Like, no. That makes about as much sense as me beating Mike Tyson at boxing. It's not that I can't fight, it's just that he's got the speed, stamina, experience, striking power and resilience proven to at minimum be double my own. It's less than 1% chance. Even with steroids and morphine it would hardly be 1% on a good day.
@@fightingmedialounge519
Does it really?
@@fightingmedialounge519
...
Ok, actually, you're right. It's kinda bullshit how the good guys win most of the time. Just a simple example would be Ermac.
No human is immune to telekenesis, nor can preform it on their own. How is anybody supposed to beat him? He'll just grab your heart and stop it from the start of the round.
@@TheKing-qz9wd they gotta nerf his intelligence to get a chance.
@@ShiftyGuy777
Ah, makes sense. He is a God damn moron only when the main characters are involved and he gets himself killed.
Same with Cassie somehow being able to defeat Frost
The Mortal Kombat X comics should still be non canon because it has nothing to do with the story of Mkx and the timeline so this comic is useless unlike the injustice prequel comics which are actually useful to the story.
I can see where u coming from but some characters did have many of their best showings there (e.g. Kotal, havik, reiko) and I feel like if u make that non cannon, u basically took away the last good thing they had especially with the way Kotal Kahn was treated in mk11 which is something I cannot forgive along with Sindel’s bullshit retcon and other treatments of characters
I would describe modern MK as *kitsch.* It's little more than shallow facades. It's exceededly more about topics than actual substance. It appeals to the people that criticize and praise material solely off of topic matter and vain or vague representation.
They don't care about the duck being lame; they just care that the duck sits on a certain hill
@@mrthanos8140 I would love some more quality control to the creatives.
I don't see a problem with Stephanie being a part of the crew, unless she is partially responsible for influencing the overblown changes in "principles" and "ideaologies" the old MK devs have taken to. I honestly don't know who to blame... I know the "fanboys," "stanboys," and, as well as, the people/sheeple that have no critical eye for anything outside of their political viewpoint or indulged thematics, in whatever media they observe or peruse, are a *HUGE* part of the problem. I like to bring up Fortnite when considering NRS' format for this game, and who they are appealing to. Although, it's seemingly irrelevant to MK, I think the Fortnite market/audience is who they made the game for, or at least why they structured the game the way they did. The gameplays are, arguably, good or "acceptable," there are purchasable items like consumables, some more necessary than others, and relatively safe, if not generic, skins and DLC options, but with some added suggestiveness in particular victory dances in Fortnite or dialogues between MK characters. In MK 11's case, a firm show of a facade is how the females have dress codes, yet the game is more "lewd" and sexually suggestive than any MK game has ever remotely been. A bit off topic, but I think the female dress code also affected the designs for the male characters, as well. I feel like we would, or should, see more shirtless or light clothing on the guys, but don't because, early on, they had a bunch of people call them out on double standards. But that's just a theory.. And then, of course, there's the more "political" audience, that has gained a lot of traction in today's media.
Before MK 11, I used to think Ed Boon and NRS tried to cater a bit *too* much to the fans. At least, most typically, as far as their PR goes. But, now they seem very dispassionate about MK, the fans, and the prior games.
I really wish they'd start making the game for us, again. If MK 12 is structured out to be too similar to MK 11, well, I'm already disappointed, but I'll be even more disappointed, lol. I might even give up on MK at that point.... or at least on NRS.. It'd be wonderful if they'd sell the game on it being fun again, instead of it being trendy or topical. I hope MK keeps profitable, so the budget and inspirations for the game remains high. But, I hope the discontent for MK 11 reflects enough in its sales, or however, to where it doesn't repeat itself again
@@mrthanos8140 They do for the headpats from Twitter-tards, however, quality of the game and content is still top-notch, so most people buy MK games for that alone.
As for people who REALLY interested in MK, well, we can suck dick. And it's not because of MK11 story pandering to SJWs, it is because MK11 story is just shit and people in charge care about leaving their "trace" on the story, rather than making it coherent.
@@ShadowSumac "the people in charge care about leaving their *"trace,"* rather than making it coherent."
Yes. Exactly!
I think that especially pertains to the writers; and their creative teams (if they exist)
And, fortunately to the "people in charge," their traces are also reflections of stereotypical "Twitter handles." I don't know enough to call it conformity. Maybe they are the very "Twitter" or "pop-culture" audience that they're reaching out to. But, I feel like that had sales enough, in itself, for them to feel justified for changing the pace and tone of the story and especially the characters. And, nobody can argue against the quality of MK 11, on the whole. Surface layer: the game is genuinely high grade and "high-fashion;" not to confuse that phrasing as a compliment to the actual fashion designs in the game, although some costumes are really nice. But, dig just a little bit deeper into the game and you can see there's a lack of substance, little faith to the source material, and a sense of detachment, and almost prejudice, to some of the concepts and even fans of MK games
@@boyoboyo2272 I agree and I feel like their desire to make an impact on the franchise comes from vanity and attempt to serve "political agenda", rather than genuine desire to make lore more interesting.
Its like a very amateur writer who was given opportunity to write a novel for the famous series and he just hacks it up with Mary Sues and some of trendy buzzwords from his circle.
@@ShadowSumac Yes! Exactly. The fact that people will argue against this is disconcerting
I guess the reason why he is called kotal ket is because Shaun was on the substance while making it
I don't understand Netherealm. They got fans, legacy and money, how difficult could it be to be consistent? You would think Ed Boon, been a co-creator of the franchise would at least try to keep consistency and know the entire lore of the series.
He is a good businessman, not a writer.
As long as his team makes money, that's all he cares about.
It makes sense, but that's a bitter pill we must swallow.
@TheKillSwitch I'd disagree, MKM was anything, but simple.
Watch his interviews on Wired, he's passionate about MK and the characters yet keeps forgetting characters and details.
45:13 Scorpion: Vengeance will be mine!
Hanzo: Vengeance for what? What did I do to you?
Scorpion: Oh, nothing, it's just something I usually say.
Hanzo: This is stupid.
Scorpion: You're stupid!
Give yourselves a cookie of you got the reference.
Merry Christmas!
I wished the MK11 and MKX story is like the comics
I love to see a game from Outworld’s perspective
I love a good rant. But you know what's better than a good rant, a well read and researched rant that makes complete sense. I did enjoy the comics, but I have the problem of being overly positive. So you do what I can't, which is realistically critique stories, and I love your points and critiques. Well done, this was your best video yet.
I have a new found respect for Reiko at 40:06
It’s not what we all waiting for (THAT review will be out next year), but we love it just as much.
I think the intent behind the "seventh Kamidogu" thing was to imply that Shinnok's Amulet was the last one. Doesn't really work, because the Kamidogu are daggers here, but it's a nice nod to Deception... in theory, at least.
Ifktotal in mkx was like kotal in this comic, the whole Just Emperor shit in Mk11 would've made alot more sense
This was the appetizer, I’m so excited for the MK11 critique!
I liked how YOU screamed, "Get out of here!" 😁
It sounds like this comic was written by Vince McMahon, Vince Russo or Eric Bischoff
Y’know, I think an interesting thing that could be done with Hsu Hao would be to make him more… Mongolian. Not like having him refer to Chinggis every few sentences or some shit, but flesh him out via where he’s from. Now bear in mind I don’t know a lot of MK nor a shit ton about Mongolia, so pardon any inaccuracy.
Hell, imagine if they gave him a variety of Bökh fighting style moves- Bökh is Mongolian wrestling btw, and there are multiple types- with him originally having taken it up to make money for his family. During this, he found an enjoyment of fighting. As for his backstory, Mongolia is in a *BAD* place right now, as far as I know. A slow, corrupt government, with officials embezzling money and refusing to do their job. A populace growing more and more exhausted of this inaction, growing angrier and angrier. Hsu Hao could be from a poor family, originally taking the sport up to make them money. As time goes on he takes on harder and more morbid jobs to pay for them, with a growing hatred for the politicians that have condemned his family, his country, and him to suffering for their own wealth and bliss.
Now, let’s throw something else in. Let’s say that while he loathes the government, he loves his country and heritage. He is proud to *be* a Mongolian and sees what’s going on as a stain against the legacies of Khorlooogiin Choibalsan, Balinguin Tserendorj, Damien Sükhabaatar, and other Mongolian leaders. This, of course, would include Chingghis, because the latter is still a national hero of Mongolia. This admiration of his furthers his disgust at the current government, and he begins to plan assassinations.
Eventually his skill with outright killing is noticed by the Black Dragon, and to join them he needs to carry out a political assassination on a government official. Maybe one that screwed his family, but there’s a twist- it has to be in front of that guy’s family, too. Hsu Hao does it without hesitation, and now his personal goal is to use his rising position in the Black Dragon to overthrow the Mongolian Government and make things better for his family and people. His story would possibly involve him wobbling, trying to not lose sight of his goal as the temptation of money and power keeps seducing him closer and closer to a life of brutal chaos for his own sadistic enjoyment. Will he try and make a better world through horrible means, just create another oppressive dictatorship, or abandon his cause for the joy that killing brings him?
Bam. Hsu Hao is at least a little interesting now, and even sympathetic. What do you think, Snake? Bear in mind this is off of the top of my head, and it would definitely need serious refining if canonized, *especially* pertaining to his heritage and backstory. I just want him to be interesting. I also really want to learn about Mongolia, and even plan to travel there to spend a year or two to do so.
GET OUT OF HERE... this is what I needed for Christmas.
A Phelous "God of Useless!" reference! Brilliant!
You forgot to mention how in this comic, after all is said and done, Kotal is also offered a say in what happens to Shinnok's amulet, and Kotal turns the offer down. Then MKX the game has Kotal claim Outworld was never given such an offer. So either the right hand once again refused to know what the left was doing at NRS, or the game writers randomly made Kotal a petty, childish liar.
they should hire you and history behind the warrior to keep track and write the stories from now on, seems fans do a better job keeping up with the lore than netherrealm does.
Seth wasn't really a good example of a disliked character being salvaged.
Genderbending just about anything and turning it into a waifu is about the laziest, no-effort method of making people suddenly love a character.
The main point was that SF fans didn't like Seth as a character at all until his/her SF5 incarnation. It worked
@@lukejones7164 I know what the point was, and what I said still stands.
The "salvaging" for Seth was turning him into a waifu, which is lazy and not very creative.
So skip the comics then, ok
This sounds like a trainwreck
@Trevor White indeed
My biggest complaint about MKX comic is that there was little to no interaction between writers of the game and the comic (thanks WB) and as a result comic and the game are barely compatible.
Also, story is overly convoluted and uses Quan Chi as crutch (again), but overall it was not a bad attempt. I wish they allowed Kitelsen to finalize it, but, alas. On the other hand, given quality of the MK11 writing, I'd say, maybe it is a good thing.
I don't know what's up with Ed Boon, but it's like he doesn't respect his own franchise. I get it's just a fighting game, but if you're going to have a storyline to make the game feel immersive (which was the original attitude), then why not stick with it? Or don't have a storyline at all and just have random characters fighting for no reason. Make up your mind, NRS! Which is it? I've never seen such a great storyline handled so poorly.
I wish the mkx comics continued so we could've gotten onaga/goro
Please no, leave Onaga alone.
Onagoro? Gornaga? 🥴
@@legendarymarston9174 onaga was awsome tho.
@@weirdpuzzledude1876 That is why I don't want him to be ruined in the new games.
@@legendarymarston9174 i know what you mean i mean they did my boy moloch dirty in the comics.
Man fuck quan chi.
**grabs popcorn**
IT'S HERE, WOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
All of these video critiques you make about NRS writing are great. If only the writers could watch these
skarlet did survive the battle, but its weird they never say how she died before mk11. in a dialogue with kitana she implies that she was able to save her legs but its never said what has happened to present skarlet ever since
How is "comic" not spelled "komic" or "komik"? Feels like a missed opportunity.
"Such wasted potential." - Grand Master Blueberry Ice
@@kellyrichards7659 *wasted plotential, you mean.
Always love seeing a Yakuza reference in your videos. Keep up the good work!
I said it before and I say it again,
Netherrealm studios still has the most contradicted and procrastinate story writers. It's why Kronika is literally the worst game boss villain in gaming history.
42:42
This single made up intro is better than all of MK11's intros combined.
Non of my homies listen to Dominique.
You know...I think the whole "Hanzo vs Scorpion" thing might have worked...just not in the way the comic did. I think the way the comic should have handled it is kinda like how Silent Hill 3 did Heather vs Alyssa. Have it more be more a personification of Hanzo contemplating taking his own life out of both guilt for the horrible things he's done and the loss of the then-current Shiari Ryu clan earlier in the comic. Scorpion just wanting to die so that maybe they can rejoin their family and clan as he thinks it is hopeless whereas Hanzo wants to live on and try to rebuild what's been lost, not let the Shiari Ryu die out and thinking Harumi and Satoshi would not want them to just give up.
Sure, it ain't perfect, but it's better than what the comic did.
Well I know where the "Scorpion Origin" is taken from...Blood Omen: Legacy Of Kain (the first game of the saga) Kain gets killed by some assassins, he get chained up in Hell, a necromancer shows up to free him and promise REVENGE , resurrecting him as a vampire...IS THE SAME DAMN ORIGIN!!!
I find it funny how Moloch and Drahmin are treated as shit tier yet canonically they ALWAYS give Scorpion trouble since they nearly killed him in Deadly Alliance and he had to run away from them here. This also makes Quan-Chi even more of a dumb ass as he kills two people who made Scorpion run away and now has less forces in his weakened state. I also didn't realize that Shawn was already doing the "They didn't really win" bullshit before MK11 as I thought it was just Nightwolf and Fujin being sore losers. This kind of writing just makes the characters seem pathetic when they can't admit a loss. These are suppose to be great and experienced warriors and yet when they lose a fight they're like "I let you win" or "You won due to a technicality" or "You retreated, I didn't have to resort to a failed suicide movie". Its this kind of stupid shit that also makes Noob such a...well, Noob. He was FAR more impressive as Bi-Han and as far as I am aware, he has never had a full win as Noob yet he's like "Quan-Chi has perfected me, I am an Apex Predator". You were fighting gods and beating a newly created Scorpion who is apparently super powerful (except against 'shit tiers' like Drahmin and Moloch) as a human and now you are a bitch who gets beat in every fight you ever have.
As for your comment about Raiden seeming weaker by the fact that he could be possessed, I agree and I have a similar moment with Shinnok in MKX. In the opening, Shinnok creates a force field to block bullets fired from Sonya, the issue for me is...why does he need to create a force field? Say he didn't, would the bullets have penetrated his body? Would he be severely injured if the bullets landed? This is a Fallen Elder God we are talking about who was beating up two normal gods (not Demigods, MK11, they are not half human) and I am now under the impression that I could incapacitate him with a gun. This is even sillier when you compare him to MCU Loki who in the Avengers, is bullet proof. So a regular god, who isn't even really a god in the MCU but just an advanced alien, is bullet proof but a Fallen Elder God, one of the first beings in existence alongside the One Being, is not. I understand that for gameplay, Shinnok can't be bullet proof because any gun attacks wouldn't work which would be unbalanced but that can merely be a gameplay mechanic and not a story mechanic. Superman is bullet proof yet in Injustice gameplay, Superman can be harmed by bullets so there is no reason for Shinnok to be threatened by bullets. Either they should have bounced off him or he should have casually caught the bullets or deflected them with his finger, showing not only how fast and durable he is but also how worthless human weapons are. Instead, I now feel like I can shoot Elder Gods in the head and that to be a dangerous thing for them.
They also did this with Kronika by having her get defeated by Fire God Liu-Kang. This is a cool concept and evolution of the character but its simply a fusion of a very powerful mortal and a regular god. Two regular gods in MKX couldn't handle Shinnok and powerful mortals needed ancient magic just to beat him and he's a Fallen Elder God, Kronika is a Titan who is apparently above everything yet loses to a mortal/god fusion. It gets worse because at the point that they fight, Kronika should be 3x stronger than an Elder God. She is a Titan which is apparently above an Elder God, she absorbed Cetrion so she has the power of an Elder God as well, and she is wearing her crown which enabled mortals to stand against Elder Gods so she is 3x stronger than an Elder God with one Elder God logically being stronger than a regular god yet she loses to a mortal/god fusion. Even if we assume Liu-Kang even as a mortal is god tier (which fair enough, he has beaten godlike threats), that is still a 2x regular god vs a 3x Elder God, Kronika by all accounts should be stronger but she loses. This makes me think that without Cetrion's power and the crown, Raiden would have stomped her. Her own daughter had a better showing than her and she is AGAIN, lesser than her. Kronika sucks and seems weak despite being a Titan, Shinnok sucks and seems weak despite being a Fallen Elder God and Raiden in modern games seems like an idiot and weak as a god. Remember when gods were capable of destroying worlds? Raiden's MK1 ending had him and the gods destroying the world simply by fighting each other and Raiden's MK3 ending had him and Shao-Kahn shaking the Earth in their battle and yet now gods can be hurt by bullets and things beyond the gods themselves are scared of humans.
There was supposedly more to explore on this comics like the return of Onaga, but since the comics weren't selling so well and they were getting pirated (you know, so people could read them without paying) they decided to cancel them.
Saying Scorpion is an evil alter-ego who Hanzo Hasashi has to fight against is like saying the persona of Hisenberg is an evil entity who was created when Walter White inhaled the deadly gas he used to kill Emilio.
Seth is amazing just from that laugh.
“What are we, some type of suicide squad?” 45:39
They really Yamcha'd Subzero 30:20
38:52 AND IT DIDN'T HAVE A 4 FIGHT CHAPTER LIMIT. THAT WAS PRETTY NICE TOO.
Idk if there is a place for me to ask questions BUT in the 20 something years since the invasion of earth realm and nightwolf’s death. Why didn’t the great sprit pick another champion? There’s an intro dialogue between Fujin and Nightwolf where fujin says himself and the great spirit fought together to defend earthrealm what event is this?
Jesus. Why fan fiction sounds better then official material Netheralm?
Coz it's made by people that actually like and care about the universe