I wonder if you actually made any realistic effort to understand other beliefs or your own where it specifically involved yours. If you are a Sikh You said in intro. Ahmadiya (Qadianis) an Islamic Reformist movement But their Guru Ghulam Qadiani claimed that chola Sahib was given to him and in his publication he drew picture of the Chola sab as well Did you conduct any research and do you need any references? Ghulam Qadiani also claimed he was Krishan Rudargopal and Geeta Revealed on him than claimed he’s King of Aryans. And his Mahema is written in Geeta He also claimed that he is Jesus, Moses. And Mary ( mother of Jesus ) I don’t know if it’s acceptable to honour people who mock your sacred personages in Sikhism but that’s what you have done and Hindus have done the same I didn’t see no publication where a Sikh actually refuted his Claims You need to do alot of work especially on. Marzaee”s their founder Ghulam Qadiani. Even the use of the term Ahmadiya is not allowed for them Also I will be surprised if it’s acceptable for you if someone claims that chola sahib belongs to him and he’s the one mentioned therein. Is it acceptable? A person who used to drink alcohol and before whom a woman would get undressed and who used to stay in Heera Mandi Lahore, who used to call those who reject him as “ Randioyn ki Nasal “. Halal Zada na he “. Was actually a person of a character to claim that chola sab belongs to him Is that not blasphemous? If Sikhs didn’t knew that shows their wisdom and intellect about their own faith and their founder The same principles applies to Hindus they have always protected Qadianis and promoted Qadiani like Tarek Fatah & Tahir Gora while this is what their founder claimed He made very offensive comments about Mary ( Mother of Jesus ) and still lived under the protection of Queen Victoria ( defender of Christianity) They are as good defender of Christianity as you are for Sikhism. Neither they done anything even scholarly to reject his claims nor any sikhs have done so far Similarly now they have Centres in Israel so he also claimed he’s the real Moses, he’s the real Abraham and still his followers are living under the protection of Those who call themselves Jews You got a lot of work to do
@@Sherdil20023 'Reform' in our video is being used as broad term for change from traditions. We didn't say that reformers are accurate/correct (or incorrect) to their faith.
@@KhalsaNama but again you used Islamic reformist Whereas Ghulam Qadiani claimed that He’s Krishan Rudargopal, And Geeta revealed on him. Well let’s say that is not subject of your discussion but you should have knowledge of their founder about His claims regarding Sacred Sikh Personages, and this individual ( Ghulam Qadiani ) founder of Qadianis ( whom you referred to as AhmAdiya ) mocked every single religion. It’s not hard to find the relevant reference
Singh sabhas & eventual SGPC always remained loyal & beholden to British colonialists, ultimately even Culminating in McArthur version of sikhi taking root & become mainstream ( devoid of original dharmic roots of guru' s sikhi )
great video as always. scholarly, researched sikh videos like these are so hard to find. everyone would much rather just listen to their favorite baba than learn actual history.
We started tying our beards around during colonialism mostly in urban areas. Sikhs have used castes names since the beggining sikhi bans caste descrimantion not caste identity
I’m glad the Lahore Singh Sabha won in the end but it’s a shame they were against Duleep Singh’s return to the Punjab. Also, it is interesting that we can trace many modern/popular Sikh beliefs & practices to the influence of the Bhasaur Singh Sabha, such as women wearing turbans (which was not commonplace in traditional/historical Sikhism).
@thesingh588 nah not really. They took out the gund that corrupted sikhi during the time of maharaja ranjit singh. If u look at sources that dated back to the guru Time and sources that dated back to ranjit era. U can tell that the sikh philosophy changed and many people started to remerge in their old habits of Hinduism. Singh sabha lahore just corrected that. For u that colonisation for me that correction. Like it or not that the truth we got carried away with the sikh raj and forget our philosophy. Singh sabha lahore re introduced that philosophy.
@DefeatLust to this day my family regards themselves as jatts. I cannot, nobody can change it. I hate it. Also Gurudwara saab committees are divided on based of it.
@@babangill551 why hate it lol, there are good and bad people in every sect or cast or whatever you want to call it. Bhai gurmukh singh who was part of the lahore singh sabha was jatt, there are many jatt sikhs who done a lot for the panth. we are not higher than anyone ofc, no matter the caste, we are all guru sahibs children but i dont think you should be ashamed of who your ancestors are just cus of some bad people.
This is a false narrative of Sikh history especially chapter 1. The reforms were designed by the British to transform Sikhism through the Lahore faction and Sir Khem Singh Bedi to suit British interests and colonization. This is the same Bedi who used to sit on a special chair next to SGGS in the Durbar Sahib. Sikh believe was manipulated to the extend that today we have such videos that narrate all the wrongs to innocent Sikhs.
These videos are misleading for the panth. You disregard the bachans and the partap of Mahapurakhs such as Sant Giani Gurbachan Singh ji Khalsa and Sant Baba Attar Singh Mastuana wale. Not outright, although with a somewhat bibek budhi can be recognised. You have people calling Sikhs today as Brahmins which is again creating division because this statement must be contemplated through Gurbani especially. Bhai Surinder Singh for example will be in the category of Brahmin in your eyes yet Singh's like him were clearly sent by Maharaj and were already mukat and the feats he and the Singh's around him are those of Bhai Mehtab Singh, Bhai Sukha Singh, Baba Phoola Singh etc.
They are not misleading he’s just not saying your opinion is right and you have a problem with that. He is letting the viewer decide themselves with unbiased POINT OF VIEWS something the kaum and panth lacks and has lacked forever. These are the facts from every party make your own mind with the historical facts presented
Please let us know if there are any areas of history you would like us to explore for future episodes!
1700 to 1800
I wonder if you actually made any realistic effort to understand other beliefs or your own where it specifically involved yours. If you are a Sikh
You said in intro. Ahmadiya (Qadianis) an Islamic Reformist movement
But their Guru Ghulam Qadiani claimed that chola Sahib was given to him and in his publication he drew picture of the Chola sab as well
Did you conduct any research and do you need any references?
Ghulam Qadiani also claimed he was Krishan Rudargopal and Geeta Revealed on him than claimed he’s King of Aryans. And his Mahema is written in Geeta
He also claimed that he is Jesus, Moses. And Mary ( mother of Jesus )
I don’t know if it’s acceptable to honour people who mock your sacred personages in Sikhism but that’s what you have done and Hindus have done the same
I didn’t see no publication where a Sikh actually refuted his Claims
You need to do alot of work especially on. Marzaee”s their founder Ghulam Qadiani. Even the use of the term Ahmadiya is not allowed for them
Also I will be surprised if it’s acceptable for you if someone claims that chola sahib belongs to him and he’s the one mentioned therein. Is it acceptable?
A person who used to drink alcohol and before whom a woman would get undressed and who used to stay in Heera Mandi Lahore, who used to call those who reject him as “ Randioyn ki Nasal “. Halal Zada na he “. Was actually a person of a character to claim that chola sab belongs to him
Is that not blasphemous?
If Sikhs didn’t knew that shows their wisdom and intellect about their own faith and their founder
The same principles applies to Hindus they have always protected Qadianis and promoted Qadiani like Tarek Fatah & Tahir Gora while this is what their founder claimed
He made very offensive comments about Mary ( Mother of Jesus ) and still lived under the protection of Queen Victoria ( defender of Christianity)
They are as good defender of Christianity as you are for Sikhism. Neither they done anything even scholarly to reject his claims nor any sikhs have done so far
Similarly now they have Centres in Israel so he also claimed he’s the real Moses, he’s the real Abraham and still his followers are living under the protection of Those who call themselves Jews
You got a lot of work to do
@@Sherdil20023 'Reform' in our video is being used as broad term for change from traditions. We didn't say that reformers are accurate/correct (or incorrect) to their faith.
@@KhalsaNama but again you used Islamic reformist Whereas Ghulam Qadiani claimed that He’s Krishan Rudargopal, And Geeta revealed on him. Well let’s say that is not subject of your discussion but you should have knowledge of their founder about His claims regarding Sacred Sikh Personages, and this individual ( Ghulam Qadiani ) founder of Qadianis ( whom you referred to as AhmAdiya ) mocked every single religion. It’s not hard to find the relevant reference
Singh sabhas & eventual SGPC always remained loyal & beholden to British colonialists, ultimately even Culminating in McArthur version of sikhi taking root & become mainstream ( devoid of original dharmic roots of guru' s sikhi )
great video as always. scholarly, researched sikh videos like these are so hard to find. everyone would much rather just listen to their favorite baba than learn actual history.
another KhalsaNama video, LETS GOOOOO
would like to know more about the misl period
nice work plz make vedio on oldkirtan reets and now days light kirtan and rbabi tradition also
Going to need to binge all these videos. Been slacking on my Sikh knowledge.
Ty bro
Thanks for watching, glad you've enjoyed
Have watched your videos with interest. Look forward to future videos esp if you’re planning to make one on Maharaja Ranjit Singh’s empire
legend is back
Thank you!
When is the next video dropping
Please do make a video on the politics and history after the partition of India focusing on 1984 and all that. Overall this video was a banger!
Thank you for watching!
A look at the tradition of akali nahangs would be a very fruitful venture, and delight to watch
Grateful. Any videos about what exactly happened from death of Ranjit Singh to British rule over panjab
Basically political turmoil with ppl getting assassinated in a scramble for power. So it was rlly easy for british to swoop in and fill power void
Brilliant!
Thank you!
Two things
- when did we start tying beared ?
- when did we start using castes behind our names and it becomes normalizes.
We started tying our beards around during colonialism mostly in urban areas. Sikhs have used castes names since the beggining sikhi bans caste descrimantion not caste identity
Make a dedicated video on Bhai Maharaj Singh ji and why he was compared to 'Jesus' by many
I’m glad the Lahore Singh Sabha won in the end but it’s a shame they were against Duleep Singh’s return to the Punjab. Also, it is interesting that we can trace many modern/popular Sikh beliefs & practices to the influence of the Bhasaur Singh Sabha, such as women wearing turbans (which was not commonplace in traditional/historical Sikhism).
Dhileep Singh was a puppet of the British crown. He would have made the situation worse
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Were Singh Sabha amritsar casteist ?
Clearly if they believed in caste pollution and untouchability...
Yes they were very castesist the Lahore singh Sabha fought casteism.
Singh saba lahore saved us..
down with b colonial loot
Singh sabha lahore got sikhi back of 100s of years of colonisation of brahmin.
They also put us back 100 years in Christian colonization
@thesingh588 nah not really. They took out the gund that corrupted sikhi during the time of maharaja ranjit singh. If u look at sources that dated back to the guru Time and sources that dated back to ranjit era. U can tell that the sikh philosophy changed and many people started to remerge in their old habits of Hinduism. Singh sabha lahore just corrected that. For u that colonisation for me that correction. Like it or not that the truth we got carried away with the sikh raj and forget our philosophy. Singh sabha lahore re introduced that philosophy.
@@thesingh588Did you watch the video? It's the exact opposite
@@darakkenwhere does the video say that? They literally stopped Mahraja Duleep Singh
@@thesingh588 watch from 4:18 onwards, basically rewatch the video
Akal takht and jatt sikh are the new brahmins.
Very true. They disregard Guru's teaching. I am jatt by the definition but I wish I was only Sikh. I hate my community which led to this.
@@babangill551 i'm a jatt myself, but that doesn't mean i'm responsible for my ancestors actions. These are all just labels, you are you, that's it.
@DefeatLust to this day my family regards themselves as jatts. I cannot, nobody can change it. I hate it. Also Gurudwara saab committees are divided on based of it.
@@babangill551 why hate it lol, there are good and bad people in every sect or cast or whatever you want to call it. Bhai gurmukh singh who was part of the lahore singh sabha was jatt, there are many jatt sikhs who done a lot for the panth. we are not higher than anyone ofc, no matter the caste, we are all guru sahibs children but i dont think you should be ashamed of who your ancestors are just cus of some bad people.
@@NavS170 I hate being identified as jatt and not just Sikh. I think Guru sahab wanted us to identify as Sikh. I don't see that happening.
You are showing sir syed ahmad khan’s picture and saying punjabi Muslims were pushing for urdu.
This man was not from Punjab and was not a punjabi.
This is a false narrative of Sikh history especially chapter 1. The reforms were designed by the British to transform Sikhism through the Lahore faction and Sir Khem Singh Bedi to suit British interests and colonization. This is the same Bedi who used to sit on a special chair next to SGGS in the Durbar Sahib. Sikh believe was manipulated to the extend that today we have such videos that narrate all the wrongs to innocent Sikhs.
Did you even watch the video he literally mentions this in the video
These videos are misleading for the panth. You disregard the bachans and the partap of Mahapurakhs such as Sant Giani Gurbachan Singh ji Khalsa and Sant Baba Attar Singh Mastuana wale. Not outright, although with a somewhat bibek budhi can be recognised. You have people calling Sikhs today as Brahmins which is again creating division because this statement must be contemplated through Gurbani especially. Bhai Surinder Singh for example will be in the category of Brahmin in your eyes yet Singh's like him were clearly sent by Maharaj and were already mukat and the feats he and the Singh's around him are those of Bhai Mehtab Singh, Bhai Sukha Singh, Baba Phoola Singh etc.
They are not misleading he’s just not saying your opinion is right and you have a problem with that. He is letting the viewer decide themselves with unbiased POINT OF VIEWS something the kaum and panth lacks and has lacked forever. These are the facts from every party make your own mind with the historical facts presented