ICON SMOKE MACHINE - UNBOXING AND REVIEW
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- Опубліковано 30 вер 2024
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That's a nice bit of kit , it's time to look at harbor freight seriously.
Too many technicians look down their nose and it's their loss
Holy cow, I see the made in USA label on the front bottom left corner. Nice! That is shocking for something from Harbor Freight. Must be a quality unit.
Don't believe its quality because its made in the USA. Corporations cut more corners in the US than overseas. Problem overseas is the materials being used are substandard and corporations are very aware of this. The labor my be cheaper but they pinch pennies even more overseas and Mexico
Way too bulky and heavy for my taste. Nty!
The first one I worked with was the RedLine. Great Machine! Saved a lot of diagnostic time and frustration! Unfortunately, someone "Borrowed" it and I never saw it again. A few years later and I retired.
Nice machine for the backyard mechanic. Good for testing Evaps and naturally aspirated engine intakes. But what machine you use on turbocharged induction systems? How much pressure is enough for such system.😊
These are in stock at my local HF. $499 is a little steep IMO
Automotive technicians spend more than that on socket sets
Not at HF. But nice review.
@@SuperMarioDiagnostics as a 20 year tech, with $150k in tools, I am well aware of the cost of tools. My comment concerning the price was based on similar tools in the market. A quick Amazon search for a smoke machine shows a MR CARTOOL T105, which looks VERY similar to the Icon branded tool and even comes with many of the same accessories. The MR CARTOOL T105 comes in at a competitive $143, before coupon. There is even a T130 model which has the upgraded features that are seemingly missing from this Icon model, such as a flow gauge. Even that upgraded model about $250 with coupon at this time. Seeing Icon/HF is not the manufacturer, I understand the markup, but I still think $500 is a bit much. Harbor Freight is trying too hard to compete with the top tier tool truck brands; so much so that they’re beginning to think that their prices are justified in being inflated also, when the truth is that they’re not. For a rebranded Chinese smoke machine, that can be had for 1/3 of the price, from a comparable brand, I would say HF is reaching a bit here with the price tag.
@@cccspokesmanandcofounder you mean the t130 that i showed in this channel? An Amazon search is not the same as using them. That t130 will destroy evap system components due to its unregulated output. By that token redline and smoke pros are all unjustifiably expensive. The t130 does not have the same build quality as the icon. I have both
@@cccspokesmanandcofounder those mr cartool machines you're talking about operate with a really high pressure. id be scared to use that on a customers car where i'm liable. evap systems are full of sensitive easily damaged parts. the icon machine operates in the correct pressure range for safe evap testing. it also has a very sensitive pressure/vacuum gauge (not just the flow ball) measuring in inches of water ( which can be an amazing diagnostic tool in it's own right.) i don't know of any cheaper smoke machines featuring a similar gauge (tho i do see many that pretend but actually have a crude higher pressure gauge.) i've used more then my fair share of smoke machines (of all prices ranges.) this icon machine at $500 seems like the cheapest smoke machine so far that will actually compete with the professional machines at 2-3x the price .
but does it beat the avaco smoka
Sorry if a dumb question but what is the compressed air valve/port you swapped out for? To feed an external compressor? I thought this had a compressor built in to it already why would you need that port if the air comes out the gold colored port ?
thanks for taking the time making this video and showing its performance. you are the man!
Nice review. I like that it's USA made. I use the Autolinepro smoke machines. I have the shop series and the new Ventus. The shop series has it's own small compressor so you don't need an outside air compressor and the Ventus does as well and it has a rechargeable battery so you don't need to hook it up to power. For a DIY'er like myself, these both do the job for a decent price. Both are regulated to a max of 1 psi.
So do you recommend the Ventus for a DIY’er like myself. Been eye balling it for a couple of weeks now.
The ventus is ok. Leaked out completely after two weeks. Had to send it back for a replacement
@@SuperMarioDiagnostics Yes, some of the very first machines had that issue of leaking. Mine did the same thing. The replacement has been fine and has not leaked at all.
@@JPPerez-tn8xe The Ventus works great for a DIY'er. If you are not using a smoke machine on a regular basis like in a shop setting, they are an affordable machine that works well. I personally like the fact that you don't have to have a separate air compressor to run it.
Says on the site it can go up to 150 psi that is good for intercooler yes?
This route might be worth it for the accessories if the light and bladder and construction are good quality! I'll have to hook my red Ebay 100 dollar model to my transducer as well, as it is supposed to be similarly limited.
I too remember when redline was pretty much your only option. Wasn't all that long ago!
That said, can anyone recommend an inexpensive bladder?
Thanks Mario and everyone!
what do you use for intercooler and turbo systems?
Thanks for the review. Good tool but I think it’s over priced.
400 bucks though Amazon has some just as good for 80 bucks
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I was looking at this the other day. $499. I’m not saying no yet. I have one I paid around $150.00 that works really well. But honestly. I don’t use it to much. I mostly help friends and family. But having good equipment makes a world of difference.
Be nice if that smoke machine had its own compressor so it would be more mobile.
Really Cool to see Bro. I had no idea they were putting something like this out.
Just like you bud.. my first smoke machine was a home made unit as well. before the "other brand" it was a fully self contained 12V unit with its own built in compressor. Loud as hell tho. Lol but did many jobs with it. Funny thing is, I still have it hanging in the shop. Retired of course. Lol... Remind me sometime and Ill send you a pic of it.
Thanks for sharing this.. Cheers Brotha
Nice video - well done. Thanks. What is that auto knife you used to open the box? Pretty slick.
Dam I've been doing this 20 plus years i bought my smoke that i still use I'm sure before you got into the industry for 500
What brand? Brand new?
Thank you so much! Ive been watching this, and waiting for a review. I held off on the t100 due to the output. Thats perfect. And for all the people complaining about the price, this seems very affordable for a unit with a proper output, with a leak detection function
Its a redline unit, my smoke pro accsessories including the light
I was already going to buy one for evap good to see someone with your experience giving it your seal of approval always great to see your name on my feed thanks for everything you do for us
If the price is right this would be handy. I built my own out of pvc for diy stuff and it works ok but it’s janky.
They’re $500!
7:00.And..it's just mineral oil..so, not expensive.. Nice that they give it to you either way though....
I really like rhe looks of it as I have been watching for it to cone to my store for a while. I do feel like the $500 price tag is a little high, especially seeing as an external air compressor is required. There are quite a few other options for about a quarter of the price that offer a built in compressor. I do love HF and would consider myself a fanboy, especially of the Hercules brand, but I'm sure that ill wait for their second gen before purchasing this product. Thank you for the overview, I enjoyed the video.
Nice machine.. by the way i being follow u for a while and i trying to get up to ur level of diagnostic but i always behind when u talking about programing or looking for info on europian market.. u think u can share a web or place where a can get some programing training and europian data.. ? Will thanx
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Enjoyed the review. I like how the smoke hose is external attached. My redline isn’t and I have take it apart change the hose every couple years. My question is what knife are you using?
just got mine today. thanks for this one was very helpful. hopefully i will look of you actually using it
Great video content and informative! I'd like to know where you got the knife you're using. Brand?
Nice review & definitely cheaper that most smoke machines. I paid @$1300 for my Snap-on a long time ago. Only time will tell how well it holds up.
Hopefully coming to Princess Auto up here in Canada!!!
They are $500.00 for that smoke machine. But I may have to get one
with all i've bought over the years from them they should send me one for free lol. been buying from them since it was a page in a magazine. nice looking unit waiting to see it in action.
Nice review! Thanks for sharing!
Smoke machines are cool there's tho that uses a gas instead i forgot but it more accurate but expensive
For that price id go with the Thinkcar PLD-212.
And for the Made in the USA sticker you are paying an extra $200! 😂
You can't go wrong with the very well high quality made Autool SDT206 fully loaded features Smoke Machine used by many professionals and made for professional mechanics!
The autool doesn’t have any pressure regulation. It’ll pump out 15psi no problem and damage EVAP system components
@@SuperMarioDiagnosticsWhat are you talking about, the SDT206 adjusts the rate of pressure going into the evap system, as low as 1 psi. I already fixed plenty EVAP issues with this amazing Autool smoke machine! You want something more precised, then the SDT208 with a dedicated EVAP mode will do. Still cheaper and high quality than the Icon, build-in air pump so it really makes it a true portable (unlike the Icon which needs to be connected to a compressor), high quality parts, oil fill and drain, outputs massive amounts of smoke real quick. Autool automotive tools are build tough!
It doesn’t regulate pressure. It regulates flow. If you put it at your “1 psi” and hold the outlet closed, it’ll still push out up to 15 psi. I know because i have two of them
@@SuperMarioDiagnostics How do you rate Autool, is the quality of the materials used as good as Icon?
There’s a very obvious difference between the two, definitely. Maybe i should make a video comparing the two
New to the channel and new subscriber great job on the unboxing thanks for sharing !!
Yep I will be creating a homemade one for several tyme use
they have had that at my local HF for a little while now. Great video as always
I saw one in my harbor freight this weekend!
Looks like a otf microtech pocket knife.
After seeing made in USA, I must get one
Great Video Sir’ 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍.. I got an Amazon China brand years ago as my shop has a Snap On but I want something for my driveway weekend work.. i’ve had it for years it’s worked flawlessly and it didn’t cost $500 and it came with all kinds of extras. I think Harbor freight needs to revisit this sale price and cut it in half.
This unit is made in the United States where they don’t force people to work in factories for Pennies per day… its going to cost more and usually last alot longer
Can we use a small compressor?
if you run it for a longer period of time, does it overheat or have an overtemp shut-off protection that engages?
I haven’t tried it yet, but I’ll update if it comes to it
Got to get one, Thanks bro
the info on their site says 0.5psi output, and 4.1-12.5 Amp draw, quite a bit of current pull
I use maintainers on vehicle every time i pull one in since when I’m doing evap testing, I’m likely bidirectional actuating the vent valve closed
I was just looking at the amperage draw because I built one once and it pulled around 5 amps, and I was curious what the resistance is on the internal coils of that smoke machine. Mine was only 2.5ohms and worked really good.@@SuperMarioDiagnostics
Ive been using Auto tool for about 5 years now. It was only $90. Since this is Harbor freight you should also recommend the warranty. At $500 I think these will collect a couple inches of dust sitting on their shelves.
I use a lot of harbor freight tools in my garage and they have really step their game up in last couple years.
How’s life?,you did gorgeous video-work,godspeed. Super! )
did they give you a release date and a price point?
That will destroy evap systems. Its junk. Amazon sells these for $80 all day long. Just too much psi coming out and no way to regualte it. Im a Diyer and own 2 professional ones to check my evap systems. Dont cheap out on tools
Tell me you didn’t finish the video without telling me you didn’t finish the video
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It is crap compared to what's out there. If it doesn't have a built in air supply it's not worth it.
@@gr8bart1 show me a unit that is regulated output, evap system safe and that has a built in compressor
@@SuperMarioDiagnostics Calm your tits Luigi. If you look around you can find better stuff. Do some research