This is without doubt one of the best two part series I have ever watched. Excellent interview of Dick. So much thought has obviously gone into the design and build of his yachts. It has provoked me in so many ways. His comments show he has a significant experience and understanding of blue water yachting. Well done to all involved.
Outstanding interview, i see the plastic fantastic supporters are out in force, he was talking about safety in a true blue water boat and what and why he has built them, to what hes learned over years of sailing i thought the points he made about the modern boats were spot on,
Ocean Sailor magazine is the best, for me. I read, I understand, and I like it. It's not tons of info but a raight amount to be delightful until next time, like a good meal.
I would think that the amount of research and planning that should go into buying a blue water sailboat would lead one to consider the pros and cons of types of rudders, keels, and the material from which the hull is constructed. But you don't know what you don't know. The depth and breadth of Dick Beaumont's know about blue water sailing is amazing. He has certainly given me much "food for thought". I learned plenty watching this video. Thanks much.
I guess for a person who is new to boating, they have to discriminate between good and bad info, which is quite difficult. The prominent sources of information, magazines, non cruising sailors, friends who sail who are unlikely to be cruisers, salespeople etc all telling them what they want to hear. Why would they gou out and seek contrary information?
@@SOLDOZER That is a very dangerous mindset when crossing oceans. Cheap boats are cheap for a reason. And as Dick Beaumont already said: ending up in a life raft in the South Atlantic, far from major shipping lines, is horrifying.
Great interview with Dick Beaumont,, anybody thinking about a sail boat purchase should watch this entire video,,, Dick answered so many questions I had,, again great interview Thank You,, so much information here about " Blue Water Boats ".... Honestly people should watch this interview before buying a Blue Water Sail boat,,, You might just change your mind on what kind of sail boat you buy (( I Did ))... 👍😎👍
Awesome, I've been waiting for the next installment. Had to interrupt the playback of your meeting with Polar Seal to watch this. This one and your discussions with John K. have probably truly been my most favorite videos on UA-cam! Look forward to more.
I hadn't thought of what you said about this being your fav video, but I find myself at the same response internally. This information is priceless for all wanting to head off shore in the biggest waves... I mean, ways! ;)
this interview series is full of vital information hidden behind fun, casual conversation. thanks for it. plus gotta say the body armor/outrunning the weather bit was hilarious
Another very interesting interview Adam, enjoyed all of it. This person certainly has an extensive amount of knowledge in blue water sailing and l could listen to him for hours. Thanks for sharing.
Best interview we have ever seen !! Congratulations to both of you 👏👏📷👀❗️ We follow many sailing channels, two of our cousins, one in Maine, one in Washington State, own sailboats, neither are Blue Water Sailors. But they are very good at what they do. One is retired and the other is a helicopter rescue pilot flying over heavy seas in the Pacific Northwest.
Have sailed 2 & 3 Mast steel hulls, raced beach cats & had a few fiberglass mono-hulls. Beach cats are fun, but is amazing how much damage is done to cruising cats, even the better ones. You both have taught me a lot, thanks guys.
@@PensacolaCyclist Round the world, as in circumnavigate shortest route, not seeing much. Around the world, really exploring all the countries and cultures, travelling North and South rather than just a Westerly route through the tropics.
Absolutely fascinating - so much common sense. Just shows how uncommon, common sense is. I've been hove to in an Atlantic Force 10 and was very glad to be on a proper sea boat - so fully appreciate the comments here. One thought on multihulls. I'm nudging 70 now but well remember reading Mike McMullen's 'Multihull Seamanship' back in the 70's (yes, the 1970's). When he talked about putting escape hatches in the hull so you could exit when (not if) they turned turtle, I decided they weren't for me. He was lost at sea, in very sad circumstances, a short while later (June '76).
Very thought provoking comments. Every boat design has it's strengths and weaknesses and some are better suited than others for different criteria. Based on Mr. Beaumont's criteria, you end up with a certain boat. Great interview!
I've learned so much today from this interview with Mr. Beaumont. I've learned and discerned that he's adept in his craft and experience. I admire and respect that. I have also learned that I'll never be able to afford one of his yachts. Although I'm certain that his is what I'd like. I have also learned that I'm not his targeted consumer. Ah, to have the wealth!
Great to see you talking excitedly about your favourite subject with someone with that much knowledge and experience ! Loved the interview. Looking forward to watching your trip on the Kraken.
Great pair of interviews! The next time somebody asks the silly question "If you could invite any 3 people to join you for dinner...", I'll say Dick Beaumont and listen to people say "who?". As to the commenters who say Dick's responses are heavily in favor of Kraken, would your respect his words if they weren't? Kraken yachts are the physical manifestation of the beliefs he jotted down in his journal and expressed in the interview. Why would Dick endorse another manufacturers boat that doesn't fit his belief paradigm as demonstrated in the Kraken? Keep up the great videos and above all STAY SAFE! ⛵❤️😷
Well, thank you Dick Beaumont! This series made me rethink what i need as a boat. A boat in general should have all the things youve said especially the full keel, the guarded rudder, and the thick skin. Now im not buying a 2nd hand polyester, they told me to go with steel, because that is what you can weld onto the ship in every harbor around the world. The new ships Kraken is making is pretty interesting. Real thick and heavy, and the keel an integral part of the ship. I like that. Just today i saw a 62 year old sailor being stuck inside the hull of his ship that went over. He was stuck for 16 hours! The keel broke off.. Its the keel that does a lot of them probably. Point noted.. Yes a book on everything Dick Beaumont found out during his years of sailing would be great! I love to watch sailing magazines too. :) Ill be looking around. Greetings, Jeff
Very interesting, I have been sailing for 50+ years with a wide variety of boats all across the world and came to much the same conclusions as Dick, my fears are hitting something, fire (including lightning), going overboard and loosing a mast. I couldn't find the boat I want so I am building my own 80 footer which is similar to his design with integrated keel, skeg etc. My hull is much thicker than his with very high strength non osmotic resin, a deeper keel, wider and flatter profile (I turn the engines on if I want to go upwind), solid with stringers below the waterline and nidacore above and in the decks (no wood in the boat at all, termites are terrible in a boat). I also have bonded in tanks from the keel to above the waterline at the front half of the boat which gives me a second layer of protection and finally I have a full collision bulkhead and 5 full watertight bulkheads across the boat along with a fully isolated engine room. Each watertight area has its own high volume pump out line and I can loose two watertight areas without it effecting the seaworthiness of the boat . It is center cockpit with fully enclosed pilothouse with steering positions in both, and 6 inch solid toe rails and ss guard rails / full pushpit and pulpit, all lines and controls run back to the pilothouse and there is a stern diving platform and ladder for in water work and diving (a rope around the prop in Biscay taught me the need to be able to get in and out of the water easily). It has ketch rigged keel stepped masts with oversized rod rigging which is bolted right through to the keel with ss plates, in mast hydraulic furling, backstays, Cunningham's and hydraulic winches, anchor winches (3 full sized anchors and chains) bow and stern thrusters etc. Not a fan of high power electrics and batteries on a boat. One thing he doesn't mention is engines, I have twin naturally aspirated manually injected 320hp MAN diesels (old school) with tankage for 3000 miles in 5 tanks and multiple fuel filters / fuel polishing system which will drive the boat at 12 knots along with twin northern light generators for power and hydraulics (everything is duplicated or triplicated) . Whilst you cant outrun the weather I want to get as far as possible from it. The engine room is completely isolated from the boat with its own auto close air supply and vents and has ir, smoke and fire detectors, cameras and halon flood extinguishers, no gas on board. There is also an very high capacity engine driven pump and nozzles for firefighting and full centralized fire and smoke detection in each cabin. I think safely is paramount in a deep water boat, not cost, performance or sexyness. Modern boats scare the c**p out of me and I wouldn't go out of sight of land in one.
Prior to watching this series with Mr. Beaumont, I thought I knew at lest a bit about blue water boats. I guess I still have a lot, quite a lot, to learn. Thank you for the posts. Great videos great info.
You should add (part 2) into the title, took me a little bit to figure out this was part 2. I think that is probably the only reason part 1 has such a higher view count. Great content by the way. You two remind me of my close friends. Keep up the great work
Flippin' good interview. Well done Adam & Dick. I love design, because you're finding the right compromise between all the options for a given purpose. It takes a heap of time, effort and thinking. Dick kindly just put a whole lot of his thinking out there for the taking. Thanks! Adam, I see in your future a potential role at Kraken - enjoy the ride.
Again, a great interview with Dick Beaumont... but a special mention also has to go to Adam for outstanding interview skills. Well done mate. You ask great questions, and let the interview flow where it will, allowing them to actually answer the question, but still get all the important questions asked. Good interview skills are an underrated talent. I guess this interview answers both my original questions: which modern production boat is truly blue water worthy & given money was no option, which boat would you buy? Kracken all the way! Haha
Spot on comment re Adam's (naturally gifted + personal experience) interview skills. These two interviews were perhaps the best on Blue Water Boats I've seen on UA-cam...
You'll get there. I am in the same I'm still just motoring with the jib up. In my 22ft mk1 Pandora. I have purchased another recently a 22ft Westerly on the hard until April. I'll get there one day. Just a bit if practice.
If the key objective is to enjoy yourself... massive experience is absolutely not necessary. I've been sailing since I was a kid but I meet and sail w people that only began in the thirties and forties and absolutely loved it... and get quite proficient in short order. See you on the water!
I was recently asked a few times in a short period "why not a catamaran?" I said "oh, the main issue I have is they are very stable when upside down". In addition the lack of mass does not help you power through anything but that is a minor issue compared the the upside down thing. Another source of fire on a boat is the electrical system. I don't know about newer boats but older ones do not have a fusible link on the battery side of the cable that goes to the shut-off/panel.
Fantastic interview! Very informative and I love the thought that has gone into the Kraken. I've also just learnt that my recently purchased Laurie Davidson 47 isn't quite a "bluewater" cruiser. It only ticks 4 of the 8 points. Just as well I'm only going to use her as a coastal cruiser around NZ. :) Thanks for going beyond the usual UA-cam sailing channel route and including these sort of episodes. 10/10.
I've always loved the design of the British/Irish pilot cutters and have dreamed of building one. They have almost all those features as they were supposed to be sailed light handed in bad weather.
I have a infatuation with folkboats. I bought a book about them and discovered that a British company built the International Folkboat version. When the company closed, a Canadian company bought the design and built them in Oakville. The next one I see for sale, I am buying it to sail the Great Lakes. Once competent, I will looking for a blue water boat for cruising in the Caribbean and the Mediterranean.
Well done, you two, this interview (both parts), plus your published sailing experiences on the Kraken with Dick, and all the combined gems of experience and knowledge are of great value to the community. Very interesting, but not surprising, that he indicates his respect for you, and what you've done.
Loved the interview, can’t wait to see you in turkey doing the documentary on kraken. And thoroughly enjoyed seeing you all with Ryan and Sophie on the live stream last night.
Another great interview Adam. Very interesting discussion. Pity the camera cards ran out! These interviews are always informative , so please keep them coming.
Excellent interview, bravo and thanks! Now that you’ve sold me on the key requirements for a bulletproof bluewater boat, what can the rest of us who can afford neither to buy nor to maintain a 50-foot Kraken find in, say, the 40 foot and under range? Suggestions?
try looking at Used Pacific Seacrest, Older Morgans (With Full Keel), HOWEVER...My FIRST choice would be an Island Packet 38 - 42 they are one of the very best....
Honestly, I think a guy whose on a budget and looking to buy something affordable is looking at used boats in the 20+ years old category. One of the things Mr. Beaumont says in this interview is that there are good options from 20 years ago... he was just looking for a brand new boat... and they aren't made today. Skeg-hung rudders and integral keels were, at one time relatively common; and at 20+ years old you'll be looking to rework the rig anyway. Kelly Peterson, Island Packet, Pacific Seacraft, Tayana, I think he mentions Contessa in the interview... couple of others. You probably have better options as a guy with more brains and less money. Often, folks who have money to burn fall prey to glossy ad material and sales staff that have been armed with snappy slogans.
Tailor your compromises to your purpose/ sailing plans. Eg if you are ocean crossing you might accept an aft cockpit, but avoid a flat back bottom, eg, 15-20 year old plastic fantastic, if your sea crossing like say Tasman or UK North Sea, spend money on weather data courses and practice, then keep timing flexible. Etc.
I love this guy.It sounds like he talks from experience.And it sounds like he has a lot.Building and sailing. I would sure love to hear what he thinks of the Spencer 35
Very smart guy, good conversations with him in the last two videos.✅ Now we “Can’t Wait” to see the videos of you sailing around in in the Krackin, so it worked, You making us watch these First...!! 😎👍
Excellent interview. I like how Dick explains the design theory the company employs. I jave a lot of confidence in their boats. I have never heard of a silent rig before. I like that rig.
I was a bit confused about the section about FIRE. He talked more about building up the hulls using composites 15Mil or thicker and using kevlar in ket areas. ut that doesn't address FIRE at all. I was left scratching my head because the composites mentioned are all flammable as are the resins used to bind all the layers together. This in my mind makes the Kraken MORE flammable and susceptible to fire. I understand he eliminated GAS (propane and dingy fuel) and has gone all-electric which I agree completely radically reduces incidents of fire but doesn't completely eliminate it. I have seen many boats with no gas on board still catch on fire and quickly sink because the fiberglass composites and resins are so flammable it goes up fast. What I believe we need are new composites and resins for constructing these boats, which is why Aluminum and steel are still considered the safest materials to use if your goal is to avoid fire at all costs! So, I was surprised that he basically shrugged off the aluminium, saying, yes he had looked into it, but then moves on to the composites he uses for the Kraken as being superior to aluminium and steel due to the build of layers and the Kevlar at key points. I understand and agree with the thickness of the hull but I didn't see him actually addressing fire successfully. I would like more discussion on the FIRE side of this discussion and get more clarity to assure that boat owners need not worry about a fire on their yacht, even if they leave it at a marina for a few months.
I would add to your point that it would be helpful to discuss the possible ways fires start on boats. Maybe somebody has done this already, but I haven't seen it nor thought about looking for such videos.
@@randystrand908 most boat fires start electrically. Propane fires are extremely rare. Electric cooking is nice but that’s another power hungry system you have to feed somehow with some other expensive equipment. Not a lot of real estate on a monohull for solar either. Benefits of a catamaran. Pros and cons to every choice.
Great interview - I agree with most of what he says, but I think the Garcia Explocat was too easily dismissed . So was aluminum. You should go talk to Garcia and try it out, would make another great interview. The Garcia exploration monohulls are also awesome.
Thanks Adam for producing a fabulous interview!! It’s been very interesting, and looking forward to more content like this in the future!! Love your Chanel, really enjoy your content! You guys do a cracking (or should I say ‘Kraken’’) job with your videos!! 🤣🤪😁
Very informative interview. And very knowledgeable man being Kraken. And Dick shares many of my views of what is required and what should never be on a boat.
So much good info. I want a fast boat, like a j40, 46... But I'm a novice... Aka "idiot" when it comes to blue water. Learned a lot from this interview. I don't have the money for a new cracken but the facts expressed gave me a good idea of what to buy. Perhaps I'll have enough for a cracken someday. Beautiful yachts!
I really enjoyed these two videos, and glad he spoke about the Garcia. I would have liked to hear what he thinks of the Amel 60, a boat I'm quite taken to...
Excellent interview and discussion 👌🏻 Fiberglass composite Vs Aluminium... Horses for courses... Although the undeniable advantage of aluminium and steel, when done properly, is they can be built to spec from build to build dependant on the requirements of the owner... Building in composite means once the mold is made that's it... Both methods have advantages and disadvantages
Outstanding content. Many thanks Adam for getting this organised and out there. Really informative content from somebody that has been there and done it - which really gives weight to his views. Thanks again. 👍🏻
VERY interesting. I'm slowly looking into a sailing yacht for myself and this to me sounds like when you are going to a car dealership and they all try to sell you Apple Car Play and the convenience of this latest All Wheel Drive technology which can take you places when in fact the freaking SUV can't drive up a damp lawn. This interview really gave a different perspective of what people should look for.... does not have to be a Kraken but certainly food for thought.
I was thinking the same. My guess is simplicity and reliance on powered rigging so the size of the sails is not as significant as it used to be - Ketch with smaller sails. But it would be a great question to hear Dick B address in an interview... Part 3?!!!
@@randystrand908 Much more redundancy in a ketch plus many more permutations of sail configuration and all lower down so with much less keel requirement. I’d rather not have powered rigging. Very definition of not robust single point of failure.
@@ruaraidhmcdonald-walker9524 Appreciate your thoughts. Re power rigging: My interest is personal in that (at this point) I am interested in the largest boat possible to single hand. Thinking 45 to 66, what would be the largest non powered rigging, possible to single hand? I'm hoping to spend lots of time in the high latitudes and, in the inevitable cold conditions, the power rigging would be great (realizing it can fail and obviously I'd be going out on deck in any conditions to manually work it.)
@@randystrand908 I watched a friend’s Discovery 58 rendered unsailable by a broken power furler and had to sit waiting for parts. Not sure that sounds particularly blue water to me but I’m no expert….
@@ruaraidhmcdonald-walker9524 Sobering. My impression was that if the motor went out on those, they could be operated manually!... Obviously I'm needing some solid study on your point. But thank you for the word of caution!
Excellent cheers. With regards fractional rig/stay sail I always wonder why people do not consider installing jumpers to the rigging instead of running back stays?
Hello Dick - fantastic stuff. Thank you. I purchased on older boat for a lot of the same reasons at much criticism from my friends and family. I bought a fully restored 1965 Pearson Vanguard (33.5 ft) which has just about new everything from the Yanmar diesel to a Genoa roller fuler to autohelm & electronics with the plan of lake sailing & learning the boat for 2 seasons and then sailing from Charleston SC to the Bahamas to the Florida Keys. The boat was designed by Phil Rhodes and I just think it is a fantastic full keel sailing vessel. Simple systems all the way around and I find people confuse simple these days with bad. Any issues do you think with doing some Coastal Sailing in my 1965 Pearson Vanguard? After your interview I am researching the Righting Moment angle - not sure what it is on my boat. Any comments would be greatly appreciated - keep up the great advancements. Right is right! MJ
At 4.5 feet, the Vanguard's draught is pretty good.. so I'd say it would be an excellent coastal cruiser, and should still be a capable bluewater boat.
@@Garryck-1 Thank you for your thoughts - I appreciate learning from Bluewater experts who seem to really know what they are talking about. Thanks again. Cheers!
@@mjanulis3603 - I'm no bluewater expert, but I've put a LOT of study, time and thought (years of it, actually) into what makes a good bluewater boat, because I intend to begin building my own bluewater boat next year. So far as my comment about the Vanguard's draught goes, it means you'll be able to anchor in lots of snug, shallow nooks that deeper draught boats can't, meaning it'll be easier to be well sheltered when the weather gets up. And the keel and rudder are much more seaworthy than fin keels and spade rudders are. Enjoy your very lovely Vanguard!
Just signed up to the Ocean Sailor magazine. Some great content and this month's mag features you guys. Hope it helps pave the way to your own Kraken one day (not too far away hopefully).
Great discussion! Dick didn't mention it, but it seems an obvious negative of many cruising cats is those two exposed sail drives sticking down in the water without protection. I know the shallow draft keeps cats off lots of reefs, but when they do hit one, they seem to die there.
What a great interview. I learned so much. I am looking for a new yacht myself for a world trip (a task outside my current ability). So many points here I have not considered 🤔
Great interview and discussion. I'm sold on Mr. Beaumont's employment of the commonsense principle in boat safety and construction. I am curious about a potential issue I did not see addressed. Perhaps it was and I missed it but what about the the potential of lightening strikes. Granted, very unlikely but it does happen. I'm not an electrical engineer but it would seem to me that the keel stepped mast lends itself well to be the best grounding source by creating a path from the highest point to the lowest point under the water, connecting the mast to the lead ballast to a stainless steal or brass plate outside of the fiberglass.
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This is without doubt one of the best two part series I have ever watched. Excellent interview of Dick. So much thought has obviously gone into the design and build of his yachts. It has provoked me in so many ways. His comments show he has a significant experience and understanding of blue water yachting. Well done to all involved.
Thank you for conducting interviews where the interviewer allows the person being interviewed to speak!
Outstanding interview, i see the plastic fantastic supporters are out in force, he was talking about safety in a true blue water boat and what and why he has built them, to what hes learned over years of sailing i thought the points he made about the modern boats were spot on,
Ocean Sailor magazine is the best, for me. I read, I understand, and I like it.
It's not tons of info but a raight amount to be delightful until next time, like a good meal.
I would think that the amount of research and planning that should go into buying a blue water sailboat would lead one to consider the pros and cons of types of rudders, keels, and the material from which the hull is constructed. But you don't know what you don't know.
The depth and breadth of Dick Beaumont's know about blue water sailing is amazing. He has certainly given me much "food for thought".
I learned plenty watching this video. Thanks much.
Often times people/families are purchasing sailboats that have never been on a boat and don't have a clue as to what they are doing!
I guess for a person who is new to boating, they have to discriminate between good and bad info, which is quite difficult. The prominent sources of information, magazines, non cruising sailors, friends who sail who are unlikely to be cruisers, salespeople etc all telling them what they want to hear. Why would they gou out and seek contrary information?
@@SOLDOZER That is a very dangerous mindset when crossing oceans. Cheap boats are cheap for a reason. And as Dick Beaumont already said: ending up in a life raft in the South Atlantic, far from major shipping lines, is horrifying.
Great interview with Dick Beaumont,, anybody thinking about a sail boat purchase should watch this entire video,,, Dick answered so many questions I had,, again great interview Thank You,, so much information here about " Blue Water Boats ".... Honestly people should watch this interview before buying a Blue Water Sail boat,,, You might just change your mind on what kind of sail boat you buy (( I Did ))... 👍😎👍
Ditto to your conclusion!!
Thank you! So informative. Dick is a wealth of knowledge, insight, and a natural raconteur.
Who on earth thumb downs an interview like this... great content again.. thank you!
Well... what a good interview. I didn't think I needed a Kraken boat but now I do. If only I could afford it.
Awesome, I've been waiting for the next installment. Had to interrupt the playback of your meeting with Polar Seal to watch this. This one and your discussions with John K. have probably truly been my most favorite videos on UA-cam! Look forward to more.
I hadn't thought of what you said about this being your fav video, but I find myself at the same response internally. This information is priceless for all wanting to head off shore in the biggest waves... I mean, ways! ;)
Thank you so very much for that interview.
It completely changed my perspective and educated me a great deal.
My next boat will be a kraken.
this interview series is full of vital information hidden behind fun, casual conversation. thanks for it. plus gotta say the body armor/outrunning the weather bit was hilarious
Another very interesting interview Adam, enjoyed all of it. This person certainly has an extensive amount of knowledge in blue water sailing and l could listen to him for hours. Thanks for sharing.
Very interesting discussion that was logical even for me as a non-sailor - well done.
Best interview we have ever seen !! Congratulations to both of you 👏👏📷👀❗️ We follow many sailing channels, two of our cousins, one in Maine, one in Washington State, own sailboats, neither are Blue Water Sailors. But they are very good at what they do. One is retired and the other is a helicopter rescue pilot flying over heavy seas in the Pacific Northwest.
Have sailed 2 & 3 Mast steel hulls, raced beach cats & had a few fiberglass mono-hulls. Beach cats are fun, but is amazing how much damage is done to cruising cats, even the better ones. You both have taught me a lot, thanks guys.
34:11 "I think you should sail around the world, not 'round the world. There's a difference." Inspiring quote.
It might be obvious, but what's the difference? BTW, I really enjoyed the interview.
@@PensacolaCyclist Round the world, as in circumnavigate shortest route, not seeing much. Around the world, really exploring all the countries and cultures, travelling North and South rather than just a Westerly route through the tropics.
@@downwind_david Well explained.
Absolutely fascinating - so much common sense. Just shows how uncommon, common sense is. I've been hove to in an Atlantic Force 10 and was very glad to be on a proper sea boat - so fully appreciate the comments here.
One thought on multihulls. I'm nudging 70 now but well remember reading Mike McMullen's 'Multihull Seamanship' back in the 70's (yes, the 1970's). When he talked about putting escape hatches in the hull so you could exit when (not if) they turned turtle, I decided they weren't for me. He was lost at sea, in very sad circumstances, a short while later (June '76).
Well damn, I've just had my mind changed. I've just smashed both videos and was glued.
Amazing content!!
Loved this 2nd part of the interview! Thank you so much.
Wow! Thank you Adam, Dick and John both speak from so much experience and wisdom. I could listen for hours, Thank you.
Agree. Maybe they will consider doing more interviews. They make a great combination for making great information available and so interesting!
Very thought provoking comments. Every boat design has it's strengths and weaknesses and some are better suited than others for different criteria. Based on Mr. Beaumont's criteria, you end up with a certain boat. Great interview!
I've learned so much today from this interview with Mr. Beaumont. I've learned and discerned that he's adept in his craft and experience. I admire and respect that. I have also learned that I'll never be able to afford one of his yachts. Although I'm certain that his is what I'd like. I have also learned that I'm not his targeted consumer. Ah, to have the wealth!
Interesting conversation. I love the paintings on the wall, particularly the dinghy on the beach. You can't completely avoid or outrun the weather.
Great to see you talking excitedly about your favourite subject with someone with that much knowledge and experience ! Loved the interview. Looking forward to watching your trip on the Kraken.
Best explanation of a true blue water yacht I’ve ever heard.
Great pair of interviews! The next time somebody asks the silly question "If you could invite any 3 people to join you for dinner...", I'll say Dick Beaumont and listen to people say "who?".
As to the commenters who say Dick's responses are heavily in favor of Kraken, would your respect his words if they weren't? Kraken yachts are the physical manifestation of the beliefs he jotted down in his journal and expressed in the interview. Why would Dick endorse another manufacturers boat that doesn't fit his belief paradigm as demonstrated in the Kraken?
Keep up the great videos and above all STAY SAFE! ⛵❤️😷
Great comments!
Well, thank you Dick Beaumont!
This series made me rethink what i need as a boat. A boat in general should have all the things youve said especially the full keel, the guarded rudder, and the thick skin. Now im not buying a 2nd hand polyester, they told me to go with steel, because that is what you can weld onto the ship in every harbor around the world. The new ships Kraken is making is pretty interesting. Real thick and heavy, and the keel an integral part of the ship. I like that.
Just today i saw a 62 year old sailor being stuck inside the hull of his ship that went over. He was stuck for 16 hours! The keel broke off.. Its the keel that does a lot of them probably. Point noted..
Yes a book on everything Dick Beaumont found out during his years of sailing would be great!
I love to watch sailing magazines too. :) Ill be looking around.
Greetings,
Jeff
Very interesting, I have been sailing for 50+ years with a wide variety of boats all across the world and came to much the same conclusions as Dick, my fears are hitting something, fire (including lightning), going overboard and loosing a mast. I couldn't find the boat I want so I am building my own 80 footer which is similar to his design with integrated keel, skeg etc. My hull is much thicker than his with very high strength non osmotic resin, a deeper keel, wider and flatter profile (I turn the engines on if I want to go upwind), solid with stringers below the waterline and nidacore above and in the decks (no wood in the boat at all, termites are terrible in a boat). I also have bonded in tanks from the keel to above the waterline at the front half of the boat which gives me a second layer of protection and finally I have a full collision bulkhead and 5 full watertight bulkheads across the boat along with a fully isolated engine room. Each watertight area has its own high volume pump out line and I can loose two watertight areas without it effecting the seaworthiness of the boat . It is center cockpit with fully enclosed pilothouse with steering positions in both, and 6 inch solid toe rails and ss guard rails / full pushpit and pulpit, all lines and controls run back to the pilothouse and there is a stern diving platform and ladder for in water work and diving (a rope around the prop in Biscay taught me the need to be able to get in and out of the water easily). It has ketch rigged keel stepped masts with oversized rod rigging which is bolted right through to the keel with ss plates, in mast hydraulic furling, backstays, Cunningham's and hydraulic winches, anchor winches (3 full sized anchors and chains) bow and stern thrusters etc. Not a fan of high power electrics and batteries on a boat. One thing he doesn't mention is engines, I have twin naturally aspirated manually injected 320hp MAN diesels (old school) with tankage for 3000 miles in 5 tanks and multiple fuel filters / fuel polishing system which will drive the boat at 12 knots along with twin northern light generators for power and hydraulics (everything is duplicated or triplicated) . Whilst you cant outrun the weather I want to get as far as possible from it. The engine room is completely isolated from the boat with its own auto close air supply and vents and has ir, smoke and fire detectors, cameras and halon flood extinguishers, no gas on board. There is also an very high capacity engine driven pump and nozzles for firefighting and full centralized fire and smoke detection in each cabin. I think safely is paramount in a deep water boat, not cost, performance or sexyness. Modern boats scare the c**p out of me and I wouldn't go out of sight of land in one.
Great post
Whaow! What a lecture of common sense and back to basics !!!! Thank u .
Thanks for putting this out Adam. I’m sure I enjoyed it nearly as much as you must have.
Smart guy. I hope more boat manufacturers listen.
Great interview, I could listen to this bloke all day
Absolutely great interview, I could have watched another hour or two .
Me, too. I sincerely hope they do a long series covering different topics of practical value for the community.
Such a lovely guy. Great interview.
Absolutely so informative, so enjoyed listening to him and his experiences!
Great job!!!!!
Thanks you two, that was absolutely fantastic.
Prior to watching this series with Mr. Beaumont, I thought I knew at lest a bit about blue water boats. I guess I still have a lot, quite a lot, to learn. Thank you for the posts. Great videos great info.
Dick you are a Diamond Geezer, full of real World Sailing Experience & happy to share your extensive knowledge
You should add (part 2) into the title, took me a little bit to figure out this was part 2. I think that is probably the only reason part 1 has such a higher view count.
Great content by the way. You two remind me of my close friends. Keep up the great work
A great listen and very informative.
Flippin' good interview. Well done Adam & Dick.
I love design, because you're finding the right compromise between all the options for a given purpose. It takes a heap of time, effort and thinking. Dick kindly just put a whole lot of his thinking out there for the taking. Thanks!
Adam, I see in your future a potential role at Kraken - enjoy the ride.
Absolutely agree.
I agree. I like Cats, but he really made me think about are they a good design for cruising.
Again, a great interview with Dick Beaumont... but a special mention also has to go to Adam for outstanding interview skills. Well done mate. You ask great questions, and let the interview flow where it will, allowing them to actually answer the question, but still get all the important questions asked. Good interview skills are an underrated talent.
I guess this interview answers both my original questions: which modern production boat is truly blue water worthy & given money was no option, which boat would you buy? Kracken all the way! Haha
Spot on comment re Adam's (naturally gifted + personal experience) interview skills. These two interviews were perhaps the best on Blue Water Boats I've seen on UA-cam...
@@randystrand908 I agree.
Well done interview Adam. Thanks.
Brilliant mate thoroughly enjoyed the interview thank you he is right about, " just get out there and see it all while you can" and so much more
Another great discussion. I love the technical details and in depth discussions!
Brilliant. Wish I'd started sailing in my 20's rather than my 40's. So much experience to try to catch up on.
You'll get there. I am in the same I'm still just motoring with the jib up. In my 22ft mk1 Pandora. I have purchased another recently a 22ft Westerly on the hard until April. I'll get there one day. Just a bit if practice.
If the key objective is to enjoy yourself... massive experience is absolutely not necessary.
I've been sailing since I was a kid but I meet and sail w people that only began in the thirties and forties and absolutely loved it... and get quite proficient in short order. See you on the water!
Totally making me rethink the boat I'm going to buy. Thanks mate for the information and wonderful interview. Cheers
Excellent interview, just outstanding !
I was recently asked a few times in a short period "why not a catamaran?" I said "oh, the main issue I have is they are very stable when upside down". In addition the lack of mass does not help you power through anything but that is a minor issue compared the the upside down thing.
Another source of fire on a boat is the electrical system. I don't know about newer boats but older ones do not have a fusible link on the battery side of the cable that goes to the shut-off/panel.
Fantastic interview! Very informative and I love the thought that has gone into the Kraken. I've also just learnt that my recently purchased Laurie Davidson 47 isn't quite a "bluewater" cruiser. It only ticks 4 of the 8 points. Just as well I'm only going to use her as a coastal cruiser around NZ. :) Thanks for going beyond the usual UA-cam sailing channel route and including these sort of episodes. 10/10.
What an insightful, wonderful and interesting interview - thanks!
I've always loved the design of the British/Irish pilot cutters and have dreamed of building one. They have almost all those features as they were supposed to be sailed light handed in bad weather.
I have a infatuation with folkboats. I bought a book about them and discovered that a British company built the International Folkboat version. When the company closed, a Canadian company bought the design and built them in Oakville.
The next one I see for sale, I am buying it to sail the Great Lakes. Once competent, I will looking for a blue water boat for cruising in the Caribbean and the Mediterranean.
Thoroughly enjoyed the interview full of information and also entertaining
Well done, you two, this interview (both parts), plus your published sailing experiences on the Kraken with Dick, and all the combined gems of experience and knowledge are of great value to the community. Very interesting, but not surprising, that he indicates his respect for you, and what you've done.
Loved the interview, can’t wait to see you in turkey doing the documentary on kraken. And thoroughly enjoyed seeing you all with Ryan and Sophie on the live stream last night.
Another great interview Adam. Very interesting discussion. Pity the camera cards ran out! These interviews are always informative , so please keep them coming.
Would be interesting to have him sit down with Brian from Sv Delos
Just brilliant and so informative for someone like me who is considering jumping into the world of sailing!
Excellent interview, bravo and thanks! Now that you’ve sold me on the key requirements for a bulletproof bluewater boat, what can the rest of us who can afford neither to buy nor to maintain a 50-foot Kraken find in, say, the 40 foot and under range? Suggestions?
try looking at Used Pacific Seacrest, Older Morgans (With Full Keel), HOWEVER...My FIRST choice would be an Island Packet 38 - 42 they are one of the very best....
Honestly, I think a guy whose on a budget and looking to buy something affordable is looking at used boats in the 20+ years old category. One of the things Mr. Beaumont says in this interview is that there are good options from 20 years ago... he was just looking for a brand new boat... and they aren't made today. Skeg-hung rudders and integral keels were, at one time relatively common; and at 20+ years old you'll be looking to rework the rig anyway. Kelly Peterson, Island Packet, Pacific Seacraft, Tayana, I think he mentions Contessa in the interview... couple of others. You probably have better options as a guy with more brains and less money. Often, folks who have money to burn fall prey to glossy ad material and sales staff that have been armed with snappy slogans.
Tailor your compromises to your purpose/ sailing plans. Eg if you are ocean crossing you might accept an aft cockpit, but avoid a flat back bottom, eg, 15-20 year old plastic fantastic, if your sea crossing like say Tasman or UK North Sea, spend money on weather data courses and practice, then keep timing flexible. Etc.
@@colbydowns2268 - Well said!
I love this guy.It sounds like he talks from experience.And it sounds like he has a lot.Building and sailing. I would sure love to hear what he thinks of the Spencer 35
I don't know that I'll ever be on one, let alone to afford my own, but this guy has sold me entirely on who he is and what they're building.
Very smart guy, good conversations with him in the last two videos.✅
Now we “Can’t Wait” to see the videos of you sailing around in in the Krackin, so it worked,
You making us watch these First...!! 😎👍
Excellent interview. I like how Dick explains the design theory the company employs. I jave a lot of confidence in their boats.
I have never heard of a silent rig before. I like that rig.
Enormously informative and helpful!!
A great interview. An interesting man. A valuable perspective that has been drown out by interests vested in conformity.
Amen!
Just great interview!!
Great interview. I am not an ocean sailor but really enjoyed learning about the points that are important to blue water boats
Very informative, learned a lot from a very experienced sailor.
Great interview. I was reassured by how many of his points were already in place on my Skookum, most actually.
I was a bit confused about the section about FIRE. He talked more about building up the hulls using composites 15Mil or thicker and using kevlar in ket areas. ut that doesn't address FIRE at all. I was left scratching my head because the composites mentioned are all flammable as are the resins used to bind all the layers together. This in my mind makes the Kraken MORE flammable and susceptible to fire.
I understand he eliminated GAS (propane and dingy fuel) and has gone all-electric which I agree completely radically reduces incidents of fire but doesn't completely eliminate it. I have seen many boats with no gas on board still catch on fire and quickly sink because the fiberglass composites and resins are so flammable it goes up fast.
What I believe we need are new composites and resins for constructing these boats, which is why Aluminum and steel are still considered the safest materials to use if your goal is to avoid fire at all costs! So, I was surprised that he basically shrugged off the aluminium, saying, yes he had looked into it, but then moves on to the composites he uses for the Kraken as being superior to aluminium and steel due to the build of layers and the Kevlar at key points. I understand and agree with the thickness of the hull but I didn't see him actually addressing fire successfully.
I would like more discussion on the FIRE side of this discussion and get more clarity to assure that boat owners need not worry about a fire on their yacht, even if they leave it at a marina for a few months.
I would add to your point that it would be helpful to discuss the possible ways fires start on boats. Maybe somebody has done this already, but I haven't seen it nor thought about looking for such videos.
No gas on the boat which seems to be the biggest cause of fire on boats.
@@randystrand908 most boat fires start electrically. Propane fires are extremely rare. Electric cooking is nice but that’s another power hungry system you have to feed somehow with some other expensive equipment. Not a lot of real estate on a monohull for solar either. Benefits of a catamaran. Pros and cons to every choice.
Great interview - I agree with most of what he says, but I think the Garcia Explocat was too easily dismissed . So was aluminum. You should go talk to Garcia and try it out, would make another great interview. The Garcia exploration monohulls are also awesome.
Wonderful conversation
This was incredibly interesting and useful information. 👏 Thank you
LOL, at 20:40, I too used to have really fast reflexes. I just failed to get my foot speed up to that of bullets coming from the back.
Thanks Adam for producing a fabulous interview!! It’s been very interesting, and looking forward to more content like this in the future!!
Love your Chanel, really enjoy your content! You guys do a cracking (or should I say ‘Kraken’’) job with your videos!! 🤣🤪😁
Fantastic chat. Loved it.
Great interview, thoroughly enjoyed it.
Very informative interview. And very knowledgeable man being Kraken. And Dick shares many of my views of what is required and what should never be on a boat.
Great interview. A wealth of insider knowledge
What a great guy and interesting listen, wish I had a million spare for a Kraken
Awesome interview guys!
It answered all my questions after part 1. 😋 Keep going!
So much good info. I want a fast boat, like a j40, 46... But I'm a novice... Aka "idiot" when it comes to blue water. Learned a lot from this interview. I don't have the money for a new cracken but the facts expressed gave me a good idea of what to buy. Perhaps I'll have enough for a cracken someday. Beautiful yachts!
I really enjoyed these two videos, and glad he spoke about the Garcia. I would have liked to hear what he thinks of the Amel 60, a boat I'm quite taken to...
Excellent interview and discussion 👌🏻
Fiberglass composite Vs Aluminium... Horses for courses... Although the undeniable advantage of aluminium and steel, when done properly, is they can be built to spec from build to build dependant on the requirements of the owner... Building in composite means once the mold is made that's it... Both methods have advantages and disadvantages
Very educational, thanks lads!
Outstanding content. Many thanks Adam for getting this organised and out there. Really informative content from
somebody that has been there and done it - which really gives weight to his views.
Thanks again. 👍🏻
VERY interesting. I'm slowly looking into a sailing yacht for myself and this to me sounds like when you are going to a car dealership and they all try to sell you Apple Car Play and the convenience of this latest All Wheel Drive technology which can take you places when in fact the freaking SUV can't drive up a damp lawn. This interview really gave a different perspective of what people should look for.... does not have to be a Kraken but certainly food for thought.
Fascinating interview and some real unashamedly oldschool decisions to create a bombproof boat. Interesting it’s still a sloop not a ketch.
I was thinking the same. My guess is simplicity and reliance on powered rigging so the size of the sails is not as significant as it used to be - Ketch with smaller sails. But it would be a great question to hear Dick B address in an interview... Part 3?!!!
@@randystrand908 Much more redundancy in a ketch plus many more permutations of sail configuration and all lower down so with much less keel requirement. I’d rather not have powered rigging. Very definition of not robust single point of failure.
@@ruaraidhmcdonald-walker9524 Appreciate your thoughts. Re power rigging: My interest is personal in that (at this point) I am interested in the largest boat possible to single hand. Thinking 45 to 66, what would be the largest non powered rigging, possible to single hand?
I'm hoping to spend lots of time in the high latitudes and, in the inevitable cold conditions, the power rigging would be great (realizing it can fail and obviously I'd be going out on deck in any conditions to manually work it.)
@@randystrand908 I watched a friend’s Discovery 58 rendered unsailable by a broken power furler and had to sit waiting for parts. Not sure that sounds particularly blue water to me but I’m no expert….
@@ruaraidhmcdonald-walker9524 Sobering. My impression was that if the motor went out on those, they could be operated manually!... Obviously I'm needing some solid study on your point. But thank you for the word of caution!
Part two as good as part one, fabulous chat with a really interesting and knowledgeable guy! Keep up the good work...!
Excellent cheers. With regards fractional rig/stay sail I always wonder why people do not consider installing jumpers to the rigging instead of running back stays?
Hello Dick - fantastic stuff. Thank you. I purchased on older boat for a lot of the same reasons at much criticism from my friends and family. I bought a fully restored 1965 Pearson Vanguard (33.5 ft) which has just about new everything from the Yanmar diesel to a Genoa roller fuler to autohelm & electronics with the plan of lake sailing & learning the boat for 2 seasons and then sailing from Charleston SC to the Bahamas to the Florida Keys. The boat was designed by Phil Rhodes and I just think it is a fantastic full keel sailing vessel. Simple systems all the way around and I find people confuse simple these days with bad. Any issues do you think with doing some Coastal Sailing in my 1965 Pearson Vanguard? After your interview I am researching the Righting Moment angle - not sure what it is on my boat. Any comments would be greatly appreciated - keep up the great advancements. Right is right! MJ
At 4.5 feet, the Vanguard's draught is pretty good.. so I'd say it would be an excellent coastal cruiser, and should still be a capable bluewater boat.
@@Garryck-1 Thank you for your thoughts - I appreciate learning from Bluewater experts who seem to really know what they are talking about. Thanks again. Cheers!
@@mjanulis3603 - I'm no bluewater expert, but I've put a LOT of study, time and thought (years of it, actually) into what makes a good bluewater boat, because I intend to begin building my own bluewater boat next year. So far as my comment about the Vanguard's draught goes, it means you'll be able to anchor in lots of snug, shallow nooks that deeper draught boats can't, meaning it'll be easier to be well sheltered when the weather gets up. And the keel and rudder are much more seaworthy than fin keels and spade rudders are.
Enjoy your very lovely Vanguard!
Awesome interview!! Please KEEP ON educating me...
Just signed up to the Ocean Sailor magazine. Some great content and this month's mag features you guys. Hope it helps pave the way to your own Kraken one day (not too far away hopefully).
My electric lazy boy prevents me from leaving the dock further then my extension cord...
Great discussion! Dick didn't mention it, but it seems an obvious negative of many cruising cats is those two exposed sail drives sticking down in the water without protection. I know the shallow draft keeps cats off lots of reefs, but when they do hit one, they seem to die there.
Great Discussion and Really enjoyed hearing the reality of life and I follow the podcast which is eye opening discussion!
Well done. I enjoyed the interview.
What a great interview. I learned so much. I am looking for a new yacht myself for a world trip (a task outside my current ability). So many points here I have not considered 🤔
Great interview and discussion. I'm sold on Mr. Beaumont's employment of the commonsense principle in boat safety and construction. I am curious about a potential issue I did not see addressed. Perhaps it was and I missed it but what about the the potential of lightening strikes. Granted, very unlikely but it does happen. I'm not an electrical engineer but it would seem to me that the keel stepped mast lends itself well to be the best grounding source by creating a path from the highest point to the lowest point under the water, connecting the mast to the lead ballast to a stainless steal or brass plate outside of the fiberglass.