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XP-Pen Artist Pro 16TP (review part 2/2)
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- Опубліковано 14 сер 2024
- This is a 4K touchscreen pen display for digital artists. Review part 1/2 can be found at • XP-Pen Artist Pro 16TP...
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TIME STAMPS
00:00 - Intro
00:51 - Deal breakers
03:51 - Design
05:53 - Drawing experience
08:18 - 4K
11:59 - Line quality test
13:33 - Palm rejection
15:52 - Driver
17:34 - OSD
18:22 - Conclusion
This is right on time for me. I’ve been looking into getting one for my birthday and you’ve helped me with that decision. Thank you so much!
I'll probably buy it soon as well. Have you bought it and if so, are you still satisfied with it? :)
A few years ago I needed a graphic tablet for my daily work, but I got it without screen, Very bad decision ! Is very annoying and very slow for drawing with precision, specially long lines, so, I'm gonna get a "real" one some day, I don't need it right now and is too pricy, but, I must say, thank to your reviews I know exactly what I want and what I don't need. Thanks for sharing, Cheers !
Noticed the touch lag for Clip Studio on the iPad too. We talking M1 iPad pro. Hopefully they fix it. It's the only reason why I often switch to Procreate for sketching because it's so fluid and responsive.
This is what I was looking for. Very informative, thank you!
This is super exciting for me. I've been saving for the Cintiq 24 Pro with touch to replace my very old Cintiq 22HD. It's so ridiculously pricey here in Canada (around 5k with taxes). I've been hoping XP-Pen or Huion would come out with 4k touch screen before mine kicks the curb. Can't wait for the 24 inch version of this. Would be nice if they offered a matte version though, or matte screen protectors or at the very least some felt tips. I really hate drawing on glossy screens.
I suggest you look and comparing other wacom competitor like huion before deciding to buy cintiq pro 24 because if you are unlucky your cintiq will be broken before 1 year like mine, I own cintiq pro 24 since 2019 and in 2020 i return it because screen issue, they replace with new cintiq but today the screen issue appear again
The glossy screen here is not too bad. At least it's not the squeaky type. Just needs some time to get use to.
@@JokoJMC Oh Yeah, totally. I'm a huge tablet nerd and keep up with everything that comes out. Wacom has really been getting on my nerves these past few years, and I've heard a lot about the drop in the quality and the customer care is abysmal for the price. I really want 4k with touch, and before this XP-Pen, there wasn't any. I'm really happy Xp-pen offers this now, just have to wait for the 24 inch version. Heck I'll probably wait a year or 2 to see if Huion comes out with a touch one too. I like having options.
@@teohyc Awesome! That's really nice to know. And for the huge price difference with Wacom, I think it's worth the trade-off.
@@JokoJMC my cintiq 24 have power problem in 1 year.
I think the Pen need more buttons (2 or 3 in total) and forgot the erase top.
Ok but yeah those cables, as picky as I may be, are weird. With other companies trying to make designs where the cable are as 'out of the way' as possible, it's strange that they chose to have that design, but I guess it really is just one's own preference.
At least they are right angle connectors, you should see the travesty that is Huion's port placement and wire connector selection.
If you had to delay the review and XP-pen still haven't fixed the problem. I guess anyone want to buy this has to wait for the 2nd gen for this one then.
It's strange because their other pen display models don't have this problem with Photoshop
Yeah plus since this is the first touch display theirs going to be issues I just wonder will they be fixable.
Hey, i have one quick question about the drawing feel, does the pen feels slipery on the glossy screen?
They do sell matte screen protectors, so if it is something you really want it can be a good option
They had shown one can use it with android too. Was it easy to do the finger gestures while using Android?
Good video thanks! I'm trying to decide between this one and an ipad air 4. Any thoughts on that?
Hi! I have two quick questions: Do you have a link for the stand(s) you'd recommend? And if I draw with an artist's glove already, will the glove improve the palm rejection on this display? I loved both of your review videos for this. I just got a tower and am considering using this as the main monitor (that I can easily use for art) in my studio corner while miracasting to the other monitors on my work desk. Then I could also move it to connect with my laptop and get the touch functionality I like without all the clutter (and having even more screens and mess).
You can pan and zoom with sidecar ipad. I don’t see why this couldn’t do the same thing
If you would have to choose between xp pen artist pro 16 tp and xp pen artist pro 16 (gen 2) what you would choose?
Artist Pro 16TP has some line quality issues when I tested it. Not sure if it was fixed. So I recommend you go with the other.
I was disappointed that they didn't release a 24 pro in 4K to keep up with Huion.
It's just a matter of time before they do so.
@@teohyc I know but I was hoping to buy one as I've been holding off. I just hope they keep the buttons and red dials and then utilize the new pen. To wit, I'm running a pc with a gtx780. Think an old card like that could run a 4k pen display? Or am I better off just getting the current one at QHD? Also, do you know if their new pens will be backwards compatible or not?
@@sarmy3d Not sure about GTX 780. According to benchmark website that card is 3 times better than the Intel Iris Xe which I have tested to run 4K smoothly.
Anyway, QHD currently more worth the money. And the QHD models are the 24-inch models.
@@sarmy3d Oh. Pens are probably not backwards compatible
@@teohyc Ah makes sense. So then really I'll wait a few days to see what the verdict is on the new pens (if they're worth waiting for a new 24 pro variant). If it's mostly the same I'll go with the old one for way less. Do the xp pen's and huion's hold up in terms of durability? My old Cintiq 12 has been motoring along now for about 10 years.
Great review, very thorough and helpful.
Is there a link for the other channel? My eyes are old and bent.
Here ua-cam.com/channels/k-UHW1Q5EBJIHB4jHkVTbA.htmlvideos
Regarding 1440p resolution being better for the application widget size, wouldn't it be the same if you scaled this tablet's resolution by 150%(1440p or close to it) instead of 200% (1080p)? p.s. I'm glad that you also cover how Krita and other non Photoshop apps performs for these tablets, not like some other channels who seem to think Photoshop is the only thing that matters.
Anything less than 200% scaling makes the UI look kinda small. 1440P is actually better but to get that it's better to get the 24-inch model and skip the 4K. At this price, I prefer 24 inch 1440P
@@teohyc but PPI in 24" QHD screen is more like same as in 16" FHD screen right ? So when I do zoom in, both of them would give same pixelation or the 24" QHD will be much sharper n better ??
Thanks. .
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@@teohyc I got notification for your reply to my query. But I don't see any reply comment 😢
@@bhatta.gourisankar Strange. Anyway, the PPI for the 16-inch 1080P is slightly denser hence it's going to be slightly sharper than 24-inch with 1440P. BUT in the real world, there will still be visible pixelation and the amount of pixelation is kinda similar even though the PPI numbers are different.
@@teohyc okay. So better to buy a 22"/ 24" tab with 4k and 16" tab with 2.5k resolution. 🙏
Hi, hope you're doing well.
Really love your reviews.
I need some guidance from you in making a selection, which one would you recommend between the two, XP Pen Artist 24 Pro over XP-Pen Artist Pro 16TP?
The 16TP touch doesn't work that well or is that useful. So go with the 24
@@teohyc Thank you. 🙏🙂
I don't understand why none of these 16-inch 4K tablets have a kickstand of any kind. That's actually one of the few things they got right with the Cintiq Pro 16.
Having a kickstand is nice, but ultimately if you want to use it as a main monitor you'll still need a stand that can prop it up more vertically.
@@teohyc That's fair. It's just weird to have nothing at all. I kind of expect to have an ergonomic drawing experience out of the box, especially at that price.
Great review as always! Do you know if there is another pen compatible with this display that has two buttons? For some applications you really need to have right and middle click at hand :(
Maybe XP-Pen can release a new pen in the future for this with two buttons.
I got this tablet like a couple weeks ago and i've been working with it on my windows pc and clip studio. For whatever reason, i can't get the palm rejection to work properly. I keep pressing menus with my palm, so i had to move all my tools and menus to the left side (im right handed). So i dont know if this is xp-pen's fault, clip studio's fault, or even windows 10's fault. I wanted a touchscreen drawing display to homogenize my drawing experience between my workstation and my ipad pro, and for what it's worth, i think the palm rejection and touch environment experience is miles away from what ipadOS and apple's ipads (pro or otherwise) have achieved. I too can attest to clip studio's half second lag with touch input. but eventually you get used to it. The palm rejection though, it drives me off the wall. I had to turn off the "two finger tap to undo" gesture because of it. I kept undoing things every three strokes 💆♂️
Does anybody else here have prior experience with other brands' touchscreen drawing displays? Is this bad palm rejection xp-pen's fault? or windows? or is it just a software issue with clip studio? 🤔 I already clicked the checkbox under settings/devices/pen & windows ink/ "ignore touch input when im using my pen". This and the thin pen (i got big hands) is literally my only complain with this hardware. The screen and build quality are excellent, and the fact i can only use 1 cable to work with it is also great (coming from using a cintiq 22hd that used a ton of cables and a huge power brick, this thing feels so simple and elegant)
I think it might be Windows issues that can't differentiate between palm or finger touch. If I am not mistake, "ignore touch input when im using my pen" seem to work only for 2 in 1 devices that purely based on Windows Ink (Surface Pro).
@@mfaizsalim1437 that's what I suspected! Thanks for the input.
@@TheKennoarkkan can you try using PureRef apps then set the mode to "Always On Top". Place it below your palm then start drawing. Will it work as palm rejection?
Hello..I want ask...Is line quality on CSP better with this pen display ?...
@@dre_purba its the same as a cintiq 22hd at least. There's some strange thing going on when you finish a stroke and it "shoestrings", but its manageable
Can I get some advise please? I have a chance to buy watercolours. I cannot decide whether to go for the Kremer or the Daniel Smith. I have watched your reviews of each product and you give them both good reviews. I do like bright colours. Thank you
Daniel Smith should be brighter. Kremer is more granulating. Just get the one that's easiest for you to replace in the future.
@@teohyc thank you so much. I also watched your Winsor Newton Artist paints review. You give the paints such good reviews it is hard to know what to choose.
What characteristics of a computer do you need to get a 4k resolution? Do I need to update my computer for this tablet or not?
If you have a computer from 2018 or have a decent graphics card then running 4K smoothly should be possible
Hello Teoh! In your oppinion, which accuracy pen is better? Artist Pro 16 TP or Artist Pro 16(2021 X3)?
I think 16(2021 x3) might be better,though i only have 16 tp
Service said that the 16(2021 x3) has spring,so the sensitivity threshold handling fluctuation between light and/or slow strokes is more jumpy.
I have the same using experience.
awesome
Can you returned it if you dont like it? I always have wacom products and i have some fear with this new brands! Its a lot of money..i dont noe if i go with is or ipad pro
Not sure if they have a change of mind policy.
Is it possible to get a better pen for this tablet?
The pens are usually not interchangeable
wow
Very sad that touch does not work with Mac. Would be pretty nice if it would, even if the design is a bit weird with the cables.
It's because Apple doesn't want to support touch on MacOS for some reason. This is the same problem with Wacom Cintiq on MacOS since 2016.
@@DraconicA5 I don't quite understand this though, as I use a Wacom Intuos with touch functions, and it works with normal gestures like scrolling, zooming and panning...
Apple's not going to support touch gestures for pen displays because it's telling their customers that it is possible to have MacOS on iPads. And Apple does not want MacOS to be on iPad.
@@teohyc TBF they have accepted it is possible already, they just said "We made these devices with different people and use cases in mind" so they just wont allow it. Same reason they gave for not giving the miniLED screen to the 11", it wasn't that they couldn't, but rather they just assumed the needs and use cases of the one buying the 11" and the 12" to be different! Totally not just marketing more hype by making it exclusive to the most expensive one!
it's only 60 Hz?
Yes
Acepen AP2151pro
Can you connect this to an iPad to use procreate on a larger screen??
Finger gesture with external displays is NOT supported by iPad and MacOS
@@teohyc ah that's a shame :( thanks for clarifying!