The best racquets in history?
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- Опубліковано 7 сер 2024
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The prince graphite being omitted is ludicrous.
agree!!! it was a game changer.
My favorite was the prince cts approach mid plus!
i was thinking the same as it was getting to the end
Yes! Played with a Prince Woodie my senior year in high school. You could not use a heavier racket but it had a great sweet spot for serve and volley.
The Prince Pro was a game changer also. Racquet was great for hitting my kick serve!
The Prince Graphite is, in my view, the racquet industry's chef d'oeuvre. My own personal experience with the racket (having played D1 college, and still active in tournaments and leagues) spans over dozens of years. I still use it today.
My experience aside, the fact that it is still being manufactured under license (at Tennis Warehouse) speaks to its excellence. It is unique in the history of the game.
I agree with you! Though maybe a little biased of me, but also based on my own experience. I had 5 of these frames (the original) and found out first hand how the materials changed, ultimately changing the whole frame for the undesired. I had stopped playing for several years before taking the sport back up 10 years ago and had a hard time accepting there was no other frame for me that could replicate that kind of feel.
I agree, I have 5 Prince Graphite 100 and I still can´t find anything recent that feels near that solidness and precision.
Maybe it's just because they were released when I was a kid, but those KFactor designs are timelessly cool.
Facts
They look like repainted PS 6.0s
They are also one of the best feeling rackets.
Prince Graphite was a big favorite of a lot of folks
100% True
Prince and Rossignol t200deserve to be there
Need to also include the Prince Graphite Original 110, the Wilson Jack Kramer Autograph, the Dunlop Maxply Fort, the Wilson T-2000, the Yonex R-22, and the Dunlop Max 200G.
Preaching truth!🎾
You nailed it! I would have said Wilson Staff - but I had a Jack Kramer.
Wilson 6.1
Completely agree! And I used some of the racquets on your list! I had the T3000 instead of the 2000, but I used the Maxply Fort and R22. Just for kicks, the Wilson Chris Evert Autograph could be on the list simply because so many women used it in the late 70s and early 80s at “the courts”.
JK Autograph was my last wood in the 80’s - beautiful and affordable ❤
Prince Oversized Graphite… a true classic.
Prince Original Graphite POG is one of the best frames ever made.
Of course, the PRINCE GRAPHITE ORIGINAL 110 changed the tennis world, and for good. The Wilson Hammer was quite something too.
The pro staff 6.1 is a legend racket.. Used by del potro many other pros..
Hi !
A racket no yet mentioned l believe would be the Rossignol F200 Carbon of Mats Wilander and maybe the Donnay Borg Pro.
(My collection includes the F200, the Max 200g, the Arthur Ashe comp 2, the Coq Sportif TCO Yannick Noah, the Lacoste metal... all a pleasure to hit with)
Donnay Borg Pro (wood) would be on my list. Think you mentioned most of the rest 👍
No Prince Pro? I think it was aluminum. That was the first oversized head I think and it was a huge hit in the north east at least. Had a big sweet spot and it just seemed that everyone had one.
Here! I still have a Prince Pro from 1983, which is still playable today, but heavy. And yes, it was aluminium. And I still play my best tennis today with a Prince Graphtech db110 from 1989. 😅
The Prince Pro was the second model after the silver and green one which was renamed Classic once their lineup expanded and it could no longer be just the "Prince".
Both were aluminium with a plastic throat piece with the Pro being a stiffer version.
Yonex DR 98 would be one of my picks! Great video.
I was camping with no Wi-Fi and I missed watching your videos! This is a great one to return to! I think the Head Vilas racket deserves recognition too! Tak tak
Have you done a wood racket episode? It would be fun to hear the history of these iconic frames, maybe from the Kramer on. Dunlop max ply, Bancroft players special, Wilson pro staff wood, Davis Imperial…..loved them all.
Some were beautiful works of art as well
Prince Graphite stands out for its absence.
As someone who loves traditional feeling beat sticks, the k factor tour is unbeatable. It demands the absolute best from you from foot work to ground stroke but if your fundamentals are sound, you will be rewarded. I used the pure strike tour v1 in highschool and used the rf97 through all of college and after finally getting my hands on a k factor last month, the plow through on that behemoth is irreplaceable. Sure I lose a little spin due to the nature of its head size and string pattern but your shots are going through the fence if they aren't giving tennis elbow to the pour soul receiving those shots on the other side. The racquet is only as good as you are and if you have good fundamentals, the k factor will reward you. The rf97 is most natural feeling evolution to it and is good for when I'm feeling a little lazy but man the k factor tour is the purest feeling I've had from a traditional beat stick.
I have one too, one of the best rackets ever. I used it for 15 years, until more recently. I now use a 97P and Phantom Graphite 97 from Japan.
I also have the K-Factor, bought it as an ex-demo for a great price when the newer models came out. If you hit it well, it's pure bliss. If you don't, you're punished. I've since switched to a lighter stick, but will always keep the K-Factor.
Adidas(=Kneissl) for Lendl, Puma/Estusa for Becker, Rossignol for Wilander, Snauwaert for Mecir, , Prince for Chang, Rafter, Sharapova, Donnay for Borg
What about the Puma racket that Boris Becker used? And that lovely looking Adidas GTX Pro that Lendl used to use? That was a great looking stick
Prince Graphite is missing, is definitely one of the best racket of all times!
Definitely a European bias here with all the Head frame
Prince graphite 110!!!
played with multiple grand slam winners!
Michael Chang
Gabriella Sabatini
Andre Agassi
Etc.
To me the best racquets are Wilson ProStaff 6.0 85 original, Prince Original Graphite, Dunlop Revelation 200G midplus, Wilson ProStaff 6.0 95, and Prestige Classic 600.
Agree with your dad on the n6.1 95 16x18. Still have one in my bag and it's a joy to play with, but unforgiving. If you get spin and power on it, it's all you, you feel like a hero, and approach shots/net play is lethal with it.
Now that I've spent some time back on the courts, have more fitness and am almost done ironing out some kinks in my FH, I'll be switching back to it, just got it re-strung :)
Apreciate this review 😊
I've got several wooden racquets. 4 or 5 Donnay Bjorn Borg models 1 and 2, some of them with the original Donnay leather grip, Dunlop Maxply McEnroe, Wilson ProStaffJack Kramer, Snauwart Brian Gottfried and a few more, all of them in almost perfect condition and fully playable. Even some of them are still in the original plastic wrap with the original labels with info attached. It took me several years to have this little collection, but sometimes I take one to the courts just for fun.
Conners and Evert were actually the first big name players to use the Wilson Prostaff 85.
I think Conners helped design it.
Connors liked it so much that he famously and publicly dumped his in a trash can. 😅
Great content as always. Really enjoyed it ;) Instead of Prestige Tour 600 I'd do Prestige pro 600 2nd edition the burgundese one. Had way higher cult status than Prestige Tour 600 imho, as way more pros played with it (Muster, Mancini, E.Sanchez, Ivanisevic, McEnroe, Leconte, etc. There's a list of at least 50 pros who played with it). Perhaps an honourable mentions of Wilson Pro Staff Classic 6.1 and definitely Prince Original Graphite 110 which was also extremely widely used (Sabatini, Agassi, Chang, Seles, etc...), then the Yonex R-22 and R-7 made famous by Navratilova would be great addition as well. Also maybe Lendl's Adidas GTX Pro-T, Becker's Puma G.Vilas Power and Puma Boris Becker Super. From the "newer" ones also Stan's Yonex Vcore 95D. Cool that you mentioned the Yonex RD-7 and Dunlop Max 200G.
Would recommend hitting with the T-2000. For me the 2-handed backhand hit amazing, unlike any other racquet, felt like I was slugging a baseball with good control, but struggled to land forehands...
The original Wilson Pro Staff 6.1 was one of the most widely used sticks on the pro tour tour. Del Potro, Dan Evans, Shapovalov and Bautista Agut are some of the more recent players who used this stick. Many like Bautista Agut are still using the old 6.1 95 painted to look like the current Pro Staff 97.
Dunlop Maxply Fort, Jack Kramer Auto, Head Pro, Head Master, Head Vilas, Head XRC, T-2000 - some of the racquets that I used in the 1900s. I had the AA Comp and played a bit with the Comp II and I did like them. I still have 3 Head Pros, a Bancroft Players Special and a Maxply Fort in the basement. The Head Pro sweetspot is about the size of a dime.
I have not been on the Tennis Warehouse forum in like 10 years' but I recognize your MOVDQA handle. I think you had a Berdych pro stock at one point?
@@CJ-6993 I have a pair of them. I haven't used them in a while though.
No DUNLOP MAXPLY? In the words of one of its most well known users, “YOU CANNOT BE SERIOUS!!!
Great list! Glad you included the Dunlop 200G - I played with the 300i, very similar and I still have one in my collection! Like others have mentioned, I would have included the Prince Original Graphite, and probably also the classic Prince Pro (aluminum), which was ubiquitous for a long time (even five years ago or so I ran into someone who still plays with them!)
Dunlop max 200g my most fave racquet, yamaha yfgs my first composites, dunlop maxply fort first first racket.
I played - contemporaneously - with the Dunlop Maxply, Jack Kramer Autograph, Head Ashe model 2, and Max 200G
Prince Magnesium Pro was a very good raquet from the 1980s . I vote for that one!
Didn't Pat Cash use one when he won Wimbledon?
Thanks for the history lesson!
The POG is one I have and still play with.
Strung racquets at a pro shop in my late teens - the Pro Staff 85 was purchased by nearly every fan-boy junior in town and ruined almost as many elbows. Was a beast of a stick. I never could play with it.
I am a big fan of Yonex RQ series who define Yonex's late 80s and 90s, especially 180, 190 (my favorite by far) and 200, used mainly by female players but I remember also Pat Cash using 180 at a later stage of his career.
Lets goooo. Legendary vid my friend. I have just strung a volkl ns 14 world cup for the weekend tournament I'm playing with my friends. I do have an extreme western grip and play with a lot of spin, so I wonder how it will go 😂
Jonas, the Yamaha Margaret Court 95 racquet had the most enormous whipping action. Very akin to a slingshot effect and stealthily accurate because of the enormous injection of pace. Heck lasers weren't invented yet but laser like trajectory. It wasn't an Iconic racquet, I'm betting you've never seen one much less tried one. But if you get the chance take it. The harder you hit the ball the harder that head whipped that ball rocketing. Delightful feeling you just can't get today. I'm guessing, but production was roughly between 1975-1980. Mine was jet black with yellow accenting. 👍👍👋👋🚀🚀
Yonex RQ-180, one of the early wide body rackets (the Navratilova white). I still have one of mine, it is a power beast that I don't know that I appreciated at the time
Absolutely agreed. Many player used it (Zvereva, Tarango, ...). The grey version of this racquet was also used by Cash
Great job. It's a pity you have never been able to get a hold of a Puma Becker or Estusa Power Beam racquets. The Estusa is incredible. Great weight, great for serving, can hit with a lot of topspin or flatter drives. Listed as 92 but plays like a 95 sq inch racquet due to its head shape and open string pattern. It is one of the great racquets and definitely should be included.
Durbin Graphite 1983. Easy to serve 125+.
My ideal axe is the Prince oversize that Michael Chang made popular. Razor-thin, massive sweetspot, tons of power, perfect feel. String it super-tight with thick gut for control.
Pro Kennex Silver and Black Ace. 80s weapons of choice.
Can't believe that while talking about Pure Drive you have mentioned Nadal but not Andy Roddick or Carlos Moya. Before them nobody knew about Babolat, especially in US.
Babolat Roddick was missed
I own both the head radical tour OS as well as well as the head radical OS. The difference in head size 98 vs 107 make the feel extremely different. The OS ia extremely clunky and head heavy. Although the OS has the large sweet spot, any mishit would make the stick feel extremely flimsy. Whereas the Mid plus feels sooo much softer and plush while also feeling like a very soft frame. I switched from a Head Pro Tour (I own all models) to the Head radical Tour mid plus. Best racquet I’ve ever used as a 4.0-4.5 level player.
Thank you for this fun video. I’d like to recognize two classics: The ProKennex Kinetic Pro 5g and my beloved Babolat Pure Control Tour with GT technology. The latter racquet lacked power but in my opinion is unmatched in control.
I loved the Prince Graphite 93!!
No Kramers? No MaxPly? No Yamaha YFG's? I have all of them still (a McEnroe MaxPly) and an Ashe Comp.
Two words.
Pete Sampras Wilson 95sq in ProStaff 6.0 Original (1994, turquoise)
PS he DID use this
AND also said he hated the 110 version he tried out at the Open around that time, so I’m not sure why he came out to say he didn’t use a larger size, when he definitely did…
Adidas GTX PRO Lendl racket, Wilson ProStaff 85, Sampras, Edberg, Courier, Conners, used.
Love the Volkl C10 pro. It is a nice bridge between the Head Prestige and Wilson Prostaff. You absolutely cannot mention everything.
Head missed an opportunity with the Speed legend frame. Lazy is what comes to mind.
I agree Murray should have been marketed with Prestige and Djokovic on Radical. Speed 95 could have been cool as a marketing switch and something closer than the Speed Pro.
the wilson profile being omitted as well is ludicrous!
Likely because it was more of a club racquet. I know that Gullickson and Pugh used one for a bit, but it wasn't popular at all for pros.
PS90 and PC600 for me, playing with this two legends everyday ❤
damn, I've had 4 of theses. I had the ps85, original aeropro drive, regular pure drive, and k90 (even the Asian spec k90 as well)
Liquid Metal radical mp was a beast back in the day
Prince and Dunlop definitely need to have better visibility in the list. Steffi and John's weapon of choice the 200G, particularly.👍😎
WIlson Pro Staff should probably be included in this.
Related to your video: I have a Babolat Pure Control Team from probably early 2000s *black and red with white), and I started playing again a couple of years back, and I find all modern racquets to be too stiff and with no feeling. Could you recommend a modern racquet that us similar to the Pure Control Team from about 20 years ago?
Dunlop Maxply. Donnay Borg Pro and Prince woodie were my 1st weapons of choice.
Dr98 is still the most in demand used racquet of the past 15years
head graphite edge!!! In the mid 80's half the juniors would be using the wilson 85 and half the head graphite edge. It was the just prior to the prestige line. I really was kinda the first prestige racket.
You forgot
Puma boris becker
Wilander's Rossignol F200
But my preferred. All time is the pro staff OG 85 Classic (the one with og format but the classic paint)
Yonex R-22, absolute gem, used by Martina in her prime.
What brand is your jumper? I like it!
Top 3 classics are:
Wilson Pro Staff 85 St Vincent
Dunlop Max 200G
Prince Diablo
When I was growing up a lot of top tennis players used Dunlop rackets and Ivan lendl used Adidas
Marcelo Rios played with the Yonex RD 10 Long. In the image you put at minute 11:56, he is with the RD 10.
My two playing racquets: Pro Staff 85 and Prestige Pro 2.0. Extensions of my inner being.
I set up a completion at my club some years back with most being wooden as I and a team mate had a few each in our collections . I actually used a T2000 to play n it and that hurts your arm after a while although it is good to serve with because of the weight. We both have the Wilson Sampras racquets but they were deemed too modern for that competition although we did play each other with them and you have to hit exactly right or disaster.
I have a racquet designed by a Scandinavian player I think. The head is offset which is rather strange .
It's Graphite and made by Snauwaert . It's brand new never been strung so I never tried it. Do you know anything about this ????
I play a wilson 7.5 PS- Any advice on a new racket?
Forgot to mention Roddick on the Pure Drive. That's why I bought this racket in 2003
How is it the POG isn't on this list?
I mentioned it but did not have one for this video, awesome racquet
No Prince graphite OS?.. that’s right up there with the Pro Staff.
Are there any modern thin beam racquets? Under 20mm
I have a couple of Head Radial (not Radical) Graphites circa 1987. Very nice to use (still), tight string pattern and with something called Twaron... whatever twaron is, that I still use today. I would guess that the nearest in this line-up would be the Head Prestige but if you have any pearls of wisdom on this racquet I'd be happy to hear them.
It was also sold as the Radial Comp. Good bat...
Twaron is essentially Kevlar.
Both are trademarks from different manufacturers for their respective aramid fibre products.
prince woodie suspiciously omitted from this list.
Would there be a review of genesis hexonic power coming !!!!!!!
I think the sub 95sq in (and later 97sq in), heavier and stiffer version of the Wilson Pro Staff line is arguably the most iconic and most winning "model" in modern tennis. Add up Pete and Roger and how many wins do you get? Pioneered the Stiffnees Index (SI) measurement and tech, and from start to finish the best, albeit very demanding control frames that still allow you to plow through and hit big. Later in the line with the RF97 versions, also access to massive spin. Just fantastic frames in my opinion, up until with they ruined it with the latest v14. Pro Staff died at 13 in my opinion.
I see a lot of comments about Prince. But I also remember thinking it was 'cheating' the first time I saw a guy bring one to the courts.
I dont even remember, who were the top (grand slam level) guys who used Prince?
And The yamaha tennis rackets ?
I agree the ProStaff K Factor was best of all time
not including the prince graphite and prince graphite oversize is pure blasphemy. one of the only 80s racquets that you still see being used today.
the jack kramer should be included here too
Where did you get your information on Novak's racquet? I would like to learn more about he's actually using and why.
Pro staff 85 6.0
Pro staff tour 90
Rf97
Head prestige classic
Head radical candycane
Pro tour 630
Prince graphite os
Dunlop 200g
Babolat swirly pure drive
Yonex super rd tour 90
You can tell by my list i prefer wilson and head
I've watched a lot of old an new Fed videos, and honestly it's a myth that he substantially improved his backhand drive towards the end. He absolutely didn't. If anything, I'd say he was hitting it better when he first became a real force on the tour. He looked more confident with it, hit over it more frequently, really ripped through the ball. At the end it was pretty brittle, he errored so much when he did hit over it, but he sliced more in the second half of his career certainly than the early years.
The biggest oversight is the Prince Graphite.
I mentioned it, but did not have one on hand, so did not use it for the video. It should be in there, for sure.
What racquet model has won the most grand slam trophies? I'm guessing its the Wilson Pro Staff 85? @@Tennisnerd
@@TheJstaples Pete Sampras with 14, Jim Courier with 4, Stefan Edberg with 6, Mary Pierce with 1, Chris Evert with 4. That's 29 in total.
The Mizuno Lendl was a handful
IMO there are no best racquets in history. It's such a personal, subjective choice. Everyone has a different taste, what one likes the other hates...
The Head pro Tour was made famous by Thomas Muster
How doesvANGELL TC90 AND TC95 COMPARE to these
Came here to say Prince COG classic. But clearly im too late. Everyone agrees Prince is GOAT as was pro staff. No comparison
Listing the Head Prestige Classic is missing the real racquet. Championed by Thomas Muster, the Head Pro Tour 280/630 was Head's take on the Pro Staff, with the weight being moved to the top of the handle instead of polarized. This racquet was an evolution of the Pro Staff, and it's DNA can be felt in every Prestige since. Fun fact, Thomas Muster stopped winning when he abandoned this racquet for a more "modern" racquet.
Forgot to mention Roddick when talking about Pure Drive !!! The only Babolat Player with his signature racquet until Rafa Origin last year !!!
Also in terms of modern frames I think Blade deserves a mention way over Speed. Whether it’s H22 or Blade, at some instances a third of top 20 players use that racquet!! And for the 2020s decade, I think Aero 98 is gonna be legendary, Alceraz, Rune, FAA, probably new players in near future
The Speed is simply the name being endorsed rather than the racket itself. Sinner and Novak have customized their frames to such an extent that it can't even be considered as the same racket. Other rackets that should make the list are Borg's Donnay, the Head Ti has become a timeless racket of choice among many club level players, the prince graphite deserves a mention and the list wouldn't be complete without atleast one Yonex, possibly the ezone 98.
TBH I am thinking if tennis brands shouldn't be fined for making such a mess around their marketing. Obviously they are constantly misleading customers who is buying frames that are NOT used by players who is advertising them, and who is declaring playing with them.
Boris Becker, Puma model from 1986 is a speciel racket.. or was it Puma racket ?
Rumor was Boris played the same Puma frame all along and the paint job was changed to the newer model. Great frame played so well.
EXACT. ' play what makes it fun' .... well, IF yer not a pro or maybe pushing for club trophies. back then ( 70's+ now ) I frequently switched back & forth - Wilson 3000 ( the Connors with a throat brace ) a couple head Ashe , a Yonex r10 ( most expensive I've ever bought ) etc. even old Stan Smith fiberglass ' Fischer ski company if I remember... my fave just to play with - the small mid size Head Ashe edge, dark grey. the Yonex r10 somehow I didn't even like, for big bucks. ?
What's a racquet that's come out in the last five years or so that you think might be seen as one of the best in history someday? The Aero might be the last major innovation but surely there are others that will be remembered ten years from now. The DR 98 comes to mind--made Yonex cool.
I have a question... I have Head Youtek Prestige Pro, 330 g unstrung. I don't like it very much tbh. Is Head Prestige Classic 2.0 similar to this racket or is it different?
I love that Head ig Prestige Pro youtek ,i still play with it today and its not like Head Pro Tour 2.0 imo.
@@suatkayatennis Thanks man, I appreciate it! I am used to head heavy rackets and this one is head light. That is probably it. I want to try another racket but there is no way how to try rackets here in the area.
@@kkarx i think it is one of best raquets of all time in the Head Prestige series together with the i.prestige and classic 600.
Have you tried any lead tape to balance it up ? Maybe it will work for you.
@@suatkayatennis Yeah, maybe that could help. I can play with light 300 g rackets or with heavy 340g rackets. There is not much difference for me but I need a certain balance.
@@kkarx sounds like a great plan,try that and let me know afterwords my friend 😀
No Princess Graphite 110? Why???