Why use a heavier racquet?

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  • @pierre-marc.gareau
    @pierre-marc.gareau 7 місяців тому +6

    33 year old tennis nerd myself working in a tennis shop but geeking about racquets since I was 12 years old. Currently playing with an Auxetic Radical Pro with 5g at 12 o'clock and 3g total at 3 & 9, 345 SW, L1 synthetic grip + overgrip, strung with any poly 1.25 I'm testing at 52 lbs. It feels like a dream, so stable and comfortable and the smaller grip size allows me to relax my hand and create better top spin and angles. Greetings from Montreal, Canada. Great work Jonas!

  • @gilmillan1909
    @gilmillan1909 7 місяців тому +5

    Super entertaining topic, I'm 46 years old, a lead and Leather grip lover, I used to play when I was a teenager with the pro staff 85 (Sampras) racquet and I love heavy Racquets. Totally agree with you guys. More content like this Jonas, cheers.

  • @arturonava9725
    @arturonava9725 7 місяців тому +3

    I modified my Ezones 98 to 345g strung weight , 31.8 cm balance and 328 SW. Added 4.25g of lead tape at 10&2 , leather grip, overgrip, 1g under the butt cap and rubberband.
    Plays very plush and solid , nice plow through and still maneuverable enough

  • @artificialego
    @artificialego 7 місяців тому +4

    I preffer to use old school weighted rackets because of the solid feel and the massive swing weight. At the past i had troubles in the wrist using low-weight racket because of the "slappy" effect. I recomend more mass with a slower swing speed than low mass and ultra-fast swing. The ultra-fast it's only for someone who knows what are he doing with his technique, in my oppinion it's better to learn "full stroke" hitting style with a considerable mass for more feel at the touch.

  • @HonkyMonky
    @HonkyMonky 7 місяців тому +2

    Coming from a Ncode Six One 95 Team (289g) at 14 years old, to a pro staff 97 v13 (315g) at 30 years old, to now at 34 years old with a great Six One 95 v13 pro lab (331g) and a Six One 95 v14 pro lab (331g), both the same stick but with different coulours, both playn amazing!
    All the racquets have leather grip and lead at 9/3 and 12 oclock. The six ones 95 are 365g strung but feel really nice in the hand.
    Great stability power, control, precision, feel, with Confidential 1.25 gage 22/21kg tension. Slice and flat shots are godlike, topspin shots good but quit demanding, serve is great, volley very good, both forehand and one handed back hand feel amazing. Need proper technique and strong physic though.

  • @milllworks
    @milllworks 7 місяців тому +2

    Volkl C10 Pro stock Strung Weight: 12.3oz / 349g
    Balance: 12.5in / 31.75cm / 8 pts HL
    Swingweight: 326
    Stiffness: 62
    And…
    Felt great right out of the box.

  • @goldencalf5144
    @goldencalf5144 7 місяців тому +3

    Totally agree. You should generally add weight to the handle first and then balance it out as required in the hoop. I think people avoid doing this because increasing handle weight can be tricky. A leather grip is a good reversible option. But sometimes you need to add even more weight and you can't easily remove silicone.. Swing weight is difficult to measure in a home setting, so I just look at static weight and balance point, then just feel how it swings.

    • @shroud1390
      @shroud1390 6 місяців тому

      Biffredi makes a sw machine for under $300. Worth the investment imho especially to match racquets.

  • @feralonmu
    @feralonmu 7 місяців тому +25

    Here is an unconditional fan of Pro Staff RF and its 374 gr 😅

    • @josuemoreno1308
      @josuemoreno1308 7 місяців тому

      Might as well swing a cinder block.

    • @h4rms
      @h4rms 5 місяців тому +2

      Problem now is that Wilson no longer make the RF97A 😪

    • @feralonmu
      @feralonmu 5 місяців тому

      @@h4rms If they have reissued earlier discontinued models, I don't see why they can't do it with the RF in a few years. Let's keep hoping :)

  • @Fritzebitze
    @Fritzebitze 7 місяців тому +6

    Playing a VCORE 95 23edition with leather grip and lead tape 345gr strung - the stability when returning big serves is a blessing

    • @martinrosemary5654
      @martinrosemary5654 7 місяців тому

      where did you put the lead tape and how much?

    • @altruismfirst6489
      @altruismfirst6489 5 місяців тому

      I did buy the VC SV95 340sw and 345g but the VC SV98+ shortened to 71cm hits better OHBH and superior everywhere to RF97.

  • @InfiniteQuest86
    @InfiniteQuest86 7 місяців тому +2

    After the last video, I spec'd up in the handle, and it was amazing. It felt so much lighter despite being heavier. My volleys really improved as well.

    • @Tennisnerd
      @Tennisnerd  7 місяців тому

      Nice! Happy to hear that it inspired you

  • @Anton.Arkhipov
    @Anton.Arkhipov 7 місяців тому +2

    About foam, it maybe either higher twistweight - same SW achieved with more distributed weight.
    Other from that, if same mould has same mass, SW and balance AND TW, it won’t swing different because of foam. These 4 parameters cover weight distribution quite fully.

  • @dj1901jeff
    @dj1901jeff 7 місяців тому +3

    Very nice videos about those heavy specced rackets! Inspiring. Been all över the place with led, especially on Pro Staffs and Ultras. Now im testing the SHIFT 300, with customization/heavier specs.

  • @mt-kk1nt
    @mt-kk1nt 7 місяців тому +4

    I always use a M5 30mm 7-9g screw under the butt cap. Screwed into one of the 2 shafts.

  • @ZeroHourEs
    @ZeroHourEs 7 місяців тому +2

    people are so allergic to change that you had to make 2 videos for this topic🙃glad you clarified the technique and "weight tweaking" part cause sometimes everyone needs a reality check
    personally, I can't go lower than 315g now, spoiled on how stable a weighted RF97A feels on groundstrokes. Modded a Yonex Vcore 330g to similar-ish spec and it still lacks that stability, sad but expected as much.

  • @521pollito
    @521pollito 7 місяців тому +12

    Tungsten putty is best for adding weight to handle. I mold it into the buttcap and it works like a dream. Easiest way I’ve found to customize

  • @arvinjuntereal1004
    @arvinjuntereal1004 7 місяців тому

    I used to play with a lighter racquet. In fact, I have played with a lighter one for over 10 years. Recently, I tried the Head Boom Pro that weighs around 10.90 oz unstrung (maybe around 11 oz strung) and I could see the difference. I now prefer a heavier racquet than my usual lighter one. It is more stable and more control with a heavier one. I’ve noticed that the Boom Pro also has more power. I am not that young anymore but I still could handle a heavier racquet. What a difference it makes.

  • @osteouk
    @osteouk 7 місяців тому

    I've been using tungsten putty instead of blu-tak, it's twice as dense so you can get more in the butt cap area. Found that after time it can break up into smaller balls if you don't fully mush it together. So, I now use it to fill the trap door and it works really well.

  • @pdiseris
    @pdiseris 17 днів тому

    I definitely agree with the idea using a different racket for different surfaces - for example I have 1 slightly lighter for forgiving racket for clay and another for hard court. I alternate between a one hander and two handed backhand. On clay I almost always hit it double handed. Hard court, i'm hitting it more one handed and using one racket for each makes a lot of sense for me. I have the rackets tweaked to have the same swingweight and balance so they feel similar.

  • @hksrm4172
    @hksrm4172 7 місяців тому +1

    Most recreational players do not swing their arms freely, they try to hit the ball with forearm and wrist movement so with a heavy racquet it's very difficult to hit like that. You should swing your arm and let the racquet follow and stop trying to control the impact with your wrist. The more the racquet has mass, the more stronger the impact.

  • @Robust2013
    @Robust2013 7 місяців тому +3

    Slappy slap, haha! That sounds like the courts nearby. I have Phantom 100X for singles, TXT Tour 100 310 for doubles

  • @GangofKorea
    @GangofKorea 7 місяців тому +8

    I became addicted to customizing the weight of my wilson blades in different ways over the years. And then kept switching back to my RF97 which is perfect the way it is and dont need to stress anymore (:

    • @iceman1125
      @iceman1125 7 місяців тому +1

      Roger adds lead tape under the grommet by the way, I have one set just like that, its incredible once you dial it in

    • @GangofKorea
      @GangofKorea 7 місяців тому +1

      @@iceman1125 iv tried that a few times with both my V11s and V13s but I just prefer no lead added and im glad too cuz I tired of tinkering. I have to add weight to my second v13 tho because of shit quality control

    • @richpower07
      @richpower07 7 місяців тому

      I switched from the RF97 about 5 years ago to Blades because the RF was a bit too stiff for me and I’ve been customizing my Blades ever since!

    • @iceman1125
      @iceman1125 7 місяців тому

      @@richpower07 yes rf is a stiff racket. But stiffness brings you feel. I don’t like the modern muted rackets.

    • @GangofKorea
      @GangofKorea 7 місяців тому +2

      @@richpower07 i had tennis elbow after using the RF for 2 years, and then once i came back to the game I switched to natural gut hybrid settup and havent felt pain in the elbow or felt that the RF was too stiff at all

  • @H2tennis
    @H2tennis 6 місяців тому

    Great topic! Recently picked up my old POG mid, haven't touched it for years. My go to rackets are pure strike (2nd gen) and ezone dr 98 without any lead tape. The POG mid is underpowered, especially when hitting against some wind. Added about 5gram in total to 3, 9 and 12. Since it is still quite head light, didn't add any weight to the handle. Total weight is 349g with string/overgrip. Feels more powerful now. However, when i played match against a young guy, it was not easy. Switched to pure strike on 2nd set, so much easier for power. He also mentioned that the depth of my ball is much deeper. But i still enjoying using my POG mid for practicing. Feel pretty good in doubles.
    Will keep experimenting.

  • @ariushkinha
    @ariushkinha 7 місяців тому +20

    I'm a 164cm 58kg intermediate female player and my 2023 Vcore 100 weights 324g strung. My coach says it's too heavy for me and some male sparing partners say the same but it feels fine for me and I love how it feels to play with it. I had Clash UL when I started (too light) and Boom Team (too light too) and it kept hurting my wrist to play with those.

    • @Tennisnerd
      @Tennisnerd  7 місяців тому +8

      It does not sound too light at all to me

    • @PickleTechProductions
      @PickleTechProductions 7 місяців тому +3

      I think anything under 330g strung is fine for most intermediate players. It’s when you get to the 335g+ rackets you really begin to feel the heft of the racket in the later sets.

    • @Fritzebitze
      @Fritzebitze 7 місяців тому +4

      record yourself with swingvision and watch your timing and accuracy

    • @criktun3346
      @criktun3346 7 місяців тому +4

      324 strung is nothing, Tennis is for fun, have fun, coach doesn’t sound any fun lol

    • @rf10is
      @rf10is 7 місяців тому +1

      Im male but not the most upper body strength and i actually like to have a heavy racket to compensate for my lack of strength

  • @adamjohnson3239
    @adamjohnson3239 7 місяців тому

    I am an occasional player and weirdly one of the most comfy and best to use for me was K Factor 95 16x18. Despite high stiffness and high swingweight it was so easy to swing, volley, had lot of power. And no pain in arm.

  • @zeroelus
    @zeroelus 7 місяців тому +1

    You could well be talking about me at around @10:45 mark, since that's pretty much the set up I use. nCode 6.1 95 16x18 w multi (currently head rip control) and for now it's been great, but obviously you'd be wrong on the older part :) I'm very much still learning proper technique and footwork and I find the lack of forgivingness of the frame as a pro of using it since I'm forced to either learn it the right way or...well, have it not work. I am sensitive to strings as I get pain in my wrist if they start going bad, which I noticed when an old bed of alu power/synth gut went bad...or when a set of RPM blast also went bad lol.
    I have tried some other frames that I had since I had my initial round w tennis (some 13 years ago, but I had to stop due to marriage and sleep deprivation from having non sleeping babies) but what I love about the 6.1 (and Prostaffs in general) is the foam filling. My other frames (Head liquidmetal 4 and microgel radical mp) feel hollow and I hate that flimsy feeling. I did buy a lightly used RF97 tuxedo off of someone who didn't like it and while I can swing it and enjoy it, I prefer the more headlight 6.1
    I'll eventually return to a tournament, but seeing how there are only hardcourts in my area, adding a bit of topspin w a lag forehand and having a more reliable serve motion should still be well served by the 6.1 as long as I don't kill the 2 frames I have of it.

  • @Sandro_Z68
    @Sandro_Z68 7 місяців тому +1

    I feel HUGE difference with and without an overgrip. Much more control and hitting flatter with the overgrip, and much more topspin without as the wirst is unlocked.

    • @LL-kz1qe
      @LL-kz1qe 7 місяців тому +1

      The same I feel better without over grip helps more on heavier set ups

  • @Dasato123
    @Dasato123 7 місяців тому +2

    1) The elephant in the room that nobody ever seems to address is that only a part of tennis evolves high speed racket swings. What about volleys and half volleys that don’t involve big swing speeds. Returning a very fast service by just blocking it back. You rarely see rec players with good penetrating knifing slice backhands anymore. These shots are much harder to do well with a ultralight racket.
    2) If somehow this video could be viewed by tennis players in the 80s and 90s they’d be scratching their heads trying to understand the discussion. Remember back then a 12.5 (354 g) racket was about average weight. Everyone and their grandmas used a racket between 12 and 13 ozs. The thought that a sub 12 oz racket might be considered too heavy would puzzle them. Back then the rare racket in the 11 oz range would be marked SL or UL for super light/ ultralight next to the grip size. SL/UL rackets were for kids for the most part. I guess video games and computers have sapped the strength of the tennis playing public.
    3) It always confuses me when people complain that they can’t bring the racket around in time when using a heavier racket. Just prepare a fraction of a second earlier. Nuff said.
    4) Until they lower the weight of a tennis ball a SL racket will always hurt your performance. More so in some areas of the game.

    • @JohnCoates-l2o
      @JohnCoates-l2o Місяць тому

      No I disagree = inertia is the enemy of all tennis shotmaking. Polys and multifilament strings and slightly slower surfaces have allowed a ton more power into shots. To respond, a racquet must be lifted from stationary much quicker and earlier in the trajectory, and be moved further. Then carried until the next kinetic chain in the next shot. A few grams can make a huge difference in how these equations are solved, point after point. The physics of shots in the 80s and 90s was more of a shootout. Look at Jim Courier! Once he had made a decision about the flight of theincoming ball, he just stood there and hit it hard. If that didn't work, he just hit it harder.

  • @poqeteer
    @poqeteer 7 місяців тому +1

    I'm quite old school... Ok just old. I started with wood rackets back in the late 60s and early 70s as a kid so I have always been used to heavy rackets. Gave up the sport for work and kids, but started again for exercise when I hit 50. I tried the new rackets but all seemed too light and eventually went with Head Speed MP heavily weighted around the head (especially at 12 o'clock) and the handle to bring it up to ~330 gm. Why not start with the Pro version? I didn't want the tight string pattern. Used that for many years but since I hit so high up on the head, decided to switch to Yonex. My most recent racket, as of the end of last year, is the VCore 98 Tour. Haven't added any weight, except added leather grip and it has been great. Little unforgiving but great on the serve and when you hit it pure, shoots are nice and heavy.

  • @christianolsson834
    @christianolsson834 6 місяців тому

    Preparation for swing and good footwork is everything when using a heavy racquet. and using a light racquet may be detrimental to your game actually because you get bad habits like arriving late and using only your arm swatting the ball which is bad for your arm. This is my personal experience that works for me. I like a 330 sw + and using a "calm" swing without any swatting the ball. Jonas has a fantastic swing and looks very relaxed.

  • @alfandosavant4639
    @alfandosavant4639 7 місяців тому

    Another thing to consider is, what kind of match do you often play. In singles you can really play with relatively heavier racquet than in doubles. In doubles half of the points are started in front, so you need your volley and lighter racquet works better

    • @Tennisnerd
      @Tennisnerd  7 місяців тому

      Fair point! Doubles and singles are different sports

  • @choppysideways
    @choppysideways 7 місяців тому

    Hey TennisNerd, just wanted to drop by and say your channel is absolutely amazing! Love the format and the depth of your content. Would be awesome to see some videos or a series dedicated to tennis stringing tips, techniques,tricks and reviews of budget-friendly stringing machines, both manual and advanced. Keep up the fantastic work, looking forward to more insightful content from you!

    • @Tennisnerd
      @Tennisnerd  7 місяців тому

      Thanks! Will look into that 🎾🤓

  • @CJZM7777
    @CJZM7777 7 місяців тому

    I agree with the concept that moderately higher SW is better for most all players regardless of level. 315-320 SW is the minimum in my view. I am 67 year old male and my current rackets are 325 grams, 4+HL (32.8 cm) and SW 327 with over grip, o-ring dampener, strung and 2.5 grams added at noon under the bumper. They are Wilson Blade 100 V9 frames with a soft flex and I really like the setup.

  • @reddycv6173
    @reddycv6173 7 місяців тому

    @TennisNerd, A great video, very informative and quite useful for the USTA club players here in USA for sure.
    I totally agree with you on using the heavier racquets if one has mastered the proper tennis swing technique. I
    don't believe you can play against heavy hitters with lighter racquets. It just creates so much of vibration in my
    arm/hand when I try to return heavier balls with a lighter racquet and it is impossible to volley the heavier balls
    at the net. Simply speaking there is no stability with lighter racquets. I firmly believe that due to improper
    technique folks are unable to use heavier racquets.
    Trust me, everyone can play better with heavier racquets provided one learns proper technique.
    After watching the video, I weighed my Tecnifibre TF40 315 (18x20) racquet and it weighs 395 g as I used lead tape
    in the head(Looks like only one player plays with a heavier racquet than mine as per the comments).
    It is strung with Solinco Tour Bite 19 on the mains and Volkl Cyclone 19 on the crosses at 49 lbs.
    I prefer to play with ProPenn balls on hard courts which suits my style of play. I play single handed backhand and play both top spin and slice without any issues (I wonder how Tatiana Maria plays so many slices and wins).
    For reference, I am a 63 year old 5 Feet 2 Inches short male and weigh about 134 lbs. Currently, I have no arm issues to swing this heavy racquet. However, I used to have shoulder, elbow and wrist issues when I played badminton as well as tennis with my right hand. To avoid the arm issues I switched badminton to my left hand(so I can use slappy slap technique)
    and that solved my arm issues.

    • @reddycv6173
      @reddycv6173 6 місяців тому

      By the way, I forgot to mention that the sport of Tennis is such a multi dimensional sport with a very low margin of error. Moreover, tennis is one of the most difficult sports to learn with a huge learning curve because of which most kids and adults quit sooner than later.
      Also, I realize that the racquet weight one chooses should also depend on what sort of opponent one is playing against (i.e., how heavy or lighter the balls are coming at you and what sort of balls one is getting, flat, top spin or slice etc.), how old are the balls that you are playing with or how long have they been used, are you with lighter balls vs. heavier balls by weight etc, Additionally, I also believe that it may also depend on how fast you swing your racquet when you are making the shot., that is, racquet head speed. If you can swing your racquet faster than the speed of the ball that is coming at you, then a lighter racquet might be OK. Since most people swing slower than the ball speed, heavier racquet would give more stability to your returns. JMHO.

  • @shroud1390
    @shroud1390 6 місяців тому

    Trick to adding weight to the hoop is to counter balance with weight at 7” up the handle (at the top of the handle). You can tune the swing this way. I routinely add 140g to my racquets and can’t play with low swing weights like 360

  • @brunis_m
    @brunis_m 7 місяців тому

    Random thought - SW machines tell you how heavy a racket is to swing, but in a motion that looks nothing like a swing. Which is why I notice that at the same SW different frames feel very different. Would be cool if you could measure it with your own swing, using some sort of portable device attached to the frame

  • @criktun3346
    @criktun3346 7 місяців тому +2

    Love this style of video

  • @TheTennisMentor
    @TheTennisMentor 7 місяців тому

    Great video guys, love these discussions… I’ll be playing around with my specs following this 😁

    • @Tennisnerd
      @Tennisnerd  7 місяців тому

      Nice to hear, Ash! Let me know how it goes 👊🏻

  • @gmow99
    @gmow99 7 місяців тому +1

    Totally agree that people should consider 2 racquets from the same company I like my head radical mp and gravity pro weighted up to the same static, balance, and sw. I don't have to change my swing and I have a range of control and forgiveness. Even switch to radical for serve and gravity for return. Btw I would love to see you use a radical mp weighted up on hard court. Maybe try a solinco whiteout 18x20. Very comparable to radical and extreme tour and think it would fit your playing style well

    • @Tennisnerd
      @Tennisnerd  7 місяців тому

      The Radical MP is excellent with some weight, agree!

  • @rasss556
    @rasss556 6 місяців тому

    Im currently playing with rafa origin (swingweight 371)..best racquet ive ever owned..one of the best for spin and swing..

  • @LL-kz1qe
    @LL-kz1qe 7 місяців тому +2

    I reckon the next topic should be the balance.Rafa and other top players are 32.4 to 33 balance and this is not by accident
    Ι ve tried the 360 gram 31 balance but it is not working on hard courts especially defending off balance and at the same time there is no plow on 31.2 balance

    • @iceman1125
      @iceman1125 7 місяців тому

      and TW which helps manouver the racket

  • @madbadtrad7746
    @madbadtrad7746 7 місяців тому

    Great discussion. I've been wanting to do this for a while. First step is to get current "identical" racquets tested for actual weight/swingweight and then matched? No? Then adjust from there?

  • @altruismfirst6489
    @altruismfirst6489 5 місяців тому

    28yrs PP600 378g/346sw ----> 3yrs Stock 340 SW - 2016 Yonex VC SV 98+ cut to 71cm LIFE IS GOOD! Try it mate! RA68 like RF97 but better

  • @KohakuZen
    @KohakuZen 7 місяців тому

    excellent discussion. plenty of gems, truly valuable knowledge. thanks!

    • @Tennisnerd
      @Tennisnerd  7 місяців тому +1

      Glad it was helpful!

  • @AlonParis22
    @AlonParis22 7 місяців тому

    Great video - very comprehensive discussion and very interesting. Just wondering about technical specs like inertia that you can probably optimize for so that the racquets swing similarly despite changing weight. Do you use that, and if so is that still meteortune, or is it even a relevant question?

  • @djblackwing737
    @djblackwing737 7 місяців тому +1

    after years with 350 gm prestiges to using 330 gm blades to get some easy power, now Im back to my 350gm ultra pros, now Im winning matches, those time Ive played with the lighter frame ruined my swing, lol

  • @PeterMac-gz7ff
    @PeterMac-gz7ff 22 дні тому

    I have Head Speed MP 2020 model tuned by myself.I put 8 grams in the handle,4 grams on both sides on 9” and 3” o’clock and 2 grams on 12” o’clock that’s 18 grams altogether. Racket now weights 333 grams with enought swingweight i can feel it when playing a game,a lot of stability and it is not heavy for me at all. I play tennis second year now and have tried many rackets since. I gonna stick with this one for long tíme.

  • @adamshettle5391
    @adamshettle5391 3 місяці тому

    I live in Houston and play outside year round and I vary my tension as the temperatures change.

  • @PrecisionPointTennis
    @PrecisionPointTennis 7 місяців тому

    Loved this one too! I wish I knew my static weight , balance, and swing weight of my 1985 Adidas GTX Pro (Lendl racket) when I played pro …I’m sure it was heavy. I remember it having a heavy head and plow through. Now at age 59 and playing pro again, I’m using now the 2023 Head Gravity Pro with 6 grams added on hoop (2 at 12, 4 total at 3&9) but I don’t know my swing weight (no machine here to check). My arm is fine but I’d like to get it closer to my old 1985 specs. Any idea what my old racket was like?!? I could definitely go up in static and swing weight on my current racket. Slowly testing it out as I’m playing tournaments each week (and wining some!) so don’t want any drastic changes yet. Ok. Thanks guys 🏆🎾

  • @frankojudoka
    @frankojudoka 7 місяців тому

    My RF97 originally weighs 340g with strings. Lead tape on the head and hockey tape on the grip makes it nearly 500g.

    • @shroud1390
      @shroud1390 6 місяців тому

      160g worth of tape and lead? How heavy is hockey tape?

  • @paulskl
    @paulskl 7 місяців тому

    I've got 8 frames in the same Wilson family 😅 all set up for different courts, different balls, and different temperatures!

  • @stoic1579
    @stoic1579 7 місяців тому

    Which is your exactly customization on your extreme tour? Listening to you I am thinking on switching to it

  • @BrooklynZue
    @BrooklynZue 7 місяців тому +1

    Let the heavy racquet renaissance begin!

  • @anielloliguori6312
    @anielloliguori6312 7 місяців тому

    I am actually going to say head have done something really good (Yonex and wilson to a point) Bring out MPL versions of their MPs. At 64 needed to drop down, however i still wanted a players type racket! So buying a speed MPL didn't matter what the specs were! (QC) I added weight in the handle 10g (Blue tack) 3g at the tip 2g at 3 and 9 and over grip weight is now 311g strung

  •  7 місяців тому

    Thanks Jonas. Good stuff as usual. I would like to experiment with some weight in the handle but it sounds kind of involved for just a test. Can I get a similar effect by just putting some strips inside the throat? I'm a 5.0 player, use an Extreme Tour and currently add 2-3 grams at 12:00.

  • @tareksweeting22
    @tareksweeting22 7 місяців тому

    Playing with a base Graphene360+ Radical Pro (the orange and silver one). Love it. Super stable, love it on the volleys and serve. Anyone else still using this one?

  • @JV-py3lg
    @JV-py3lg 7 місяців тому +2

    Trying to find something that swings like the old black prostaff 95.

  • @adamdrys7672
    @adamdrys7672 7 місяців тому

    Hi Jonas, great content as always. A question. What would be your suggestion for a 40 year old coach with proper technique who has to play balls back and forth each day for a couple of hours (mostly with rec/club players) Heavy? Lighter? Heavy SW? I’d appreciate your input 😇

    • @Tennisnerd
      @Tennisnerd  7 місяців тому +1

      Hey Adam, thanks. I think most would advise you to go lighter, but I would mainly say you should use the frame that allows you to swing the racquet as relaxed as possible. If your shots become too heavy for your students, it might be better to reduce swing weight a bit. It is tricky, because you are not optimizing to have the best shot, but more to give your players dependable shots.

    • @adamdrys7672
      @adamdrys7672 7 місяців тому

      @@Tennisnerd exactly. I need to maintain the weight of the frame to be able to use technique to send thousands of balls back but it can’t be too heavy so I don’t feel fatigue. And so the journey continues… 😁

  • @atrem7942
    @atrem7942 7 місяців тому

    Simple if i have to return a 200kph i need some mass to plowthrough thr ball. I play with a pro staff rf it weights 362,5 gram with blackcode 21/21kg the strings in it. I teach tennis 30 hours a week in europe for 15 years, use it every hour. I am nearly 2 meters tall 80 kilo's. You need to be able to accelerate the racket there lies the key

  • @LL-kz1qe
    @LL-kz1qe 7 місяців тому

    Also true that spin rackets are better on clay. I watched today at Barcelona De Minaur vs Fils and Alex Deminur couldn't defent the spin balls of Fils with his pure aero.You must watch that

  • @MrBolaextra
    @MrBolaextra 7 місяців тому

    How do you add weight on the handle? What do you recommend to do it?

  • @andreamassacci7942
    @andreamassacci7942 7 місяців тому +2

    I play 401gr racket and I love it

  • @sgkenswil
    @sgkenswil Місяць тому

    Tenniscoaches should do more to advise players on rackets and customization. A lot of club players are lost.

  • @YoSef-gc8pk
    @YoSef-gc8pk 7 місяців тому

    Hi can you please try out the pros pro strings they are a budget friendly string that's supposed to be really good. So I'm looking forward for you to try it out.

  • @georgebred
    @georgebred 7 місяців тому

    Hey Jonas, could you possibly consider putting your text pop ups near the top or along the side, when you have CC’s on they overlay and it becomes hard to read anything

    • @Tennisnerd
      @Tennisnerd  7 місяців тому +1

      Ahh yes good point! Will think about that, not sure anyone reads my little text stuff anyway

    • @mattiastennis
      @mattiastennis 7 місяців тому

      @@Tennisnerd I and others do

  • @SickAttorney
    @SickAttorney 7 місяців тому +1

    Rf97s had bad quality control. I tested mine and my club presidents are they were like completely night and day, different weight and balance

    • @HawkOfGP
      @HawkOfGP 7 місяців тому +1

      This has been a regular issue with Wilson's consumer rackets at least in the past (can't say if anything has changed in the last five years). Yonex by comparison has much better quality control.

  • @hikadadps
    @hikadadps 4 місяці тому

    I am 55 yo, my rf97 authograph 340 unstrung, sw 339 feel so comfort, luxilon alu string at 48, no arm issued atall

  • @iceman1125
    @iceman1125 7 місяців тому +2

    play with the maximum swing weight physically possible, that's where your key specs lie

  • @fsilber330
    @fsilber330 7 місяців тому +1

    I would never add weight to the tip. Any weight I wanted in the head I would put on the sides of the hoop (even if only a few inches lower than the tip) because then I get a wider sweet spot for more forgiveness on miss-hits.
    After that, I add lots more weight at the base of the grip. Why? Because I need to be able to move the entire racket left or right quickly .eg. on the volley or return of serve, and to move the entire racket as a unit I need my hand to be near the center of gravity. If the center of gravity is too far from the hand, then the racket head will tend to lag, and then will tend to keep going and overshoot the goal when I try to stop moving the racket.
    Choking up a bit will also help bring my hand closer to the center of gravity, especially on the volley and return of serve. Especially efficient, if you want to avoid making the racket too heavy overall, is to use a longer than normal racket and make up for that by choking up. This moves the base-of-the-handle weight further from the hand, so not as much weight is needed to balance the head weight.

    • @ProfDrTeomanCemKadioglu
      @ProfDrTeomanCemKadioglu 4 місяці тому

      High twistweight lowers spin capacity.

    • @fsilber330
      @fsilber330 4 місяці тому

      @@ProfDrTeomanCemKadioglu "High twistweight lowers spin capacity." -- So, are you one of those who still believes spin comes from wrapping the racket face around the ball? Spin comes with a racketface angle that is unchanging through contact, as the back of the ball is the only part on which pressure can be applied without sending the ball up, down, right or left.

    • @ProfDrTeomanCemKadioglu
      @ProfDrTeomanCemKadioglu 4 місяці тому

      @@fsilber330 high twistweight lower spin capacity by lowering manuevrability.

    • @fsilber330
      @fsilber330 4 місяці тому

      @@ProfDrTeomanCemKadioglu "high twistweight lower spin capacity by lowering manuevrability." -- ANY weight in the head makes rackethead speed (manuevering the rackethead) and, hence, spin, more difficult. But twistweight specifically (as compared with weight at the tip) is irrelevant because NO stroke depends upon rapidly TWISTING (rotating) the racket along its long axis).

    • @ProfDrTeomanCemKadioglu
      @ProfDrTeomanCemKadioglu 4 місяці тому

      @@fsilber330 twisting the racquet for a shot and it's resistance to twisting are of course two different things. Stability increase is parallel to twistweight increase which is parallel to manuevrability decrease.

  • @imodium5118
    @imodium5118 7 місяців тому

    Did you checked the TK tennis channel ? He answered you and IMO he is right.
    If your strokes benefit a lot from your swing speed it's better to have a wippy racket

    • @Tennisnerd
      @Tennisnerd  7 місяців тому

      No, I don't know the TK channel?

  • @felipeortizvillegas8929
    @felipeortizvillegas8929 7 місяців тому +1

    I’ve been experimenting with lead tape in my racket. I’m not quite sure which way to apply the lead under the grip… do I apply the strips of lead from base of the grip going towards the head, or do I wrap the lead tape around the handle? Also is there a ratio to maintain the same balance? I find that adding 5g in head and 5g in the handle still results in a super head heavy racket. Any advice would be super appreciated! Thank you guys!! 😊

    • @atrem7942
      @atrem7942 7 місяців тому

      No you put in the handle, not on top😂 you need to take off the butcap, some have small door to open it like Wilson, makes it easier.

    • @atrem7942
      @atrem7942 7 місяців тому

      The placing of the lead.... it really is personal preference. Putting some at 9 and at 3 o'clock it makes the racket more stable. If it is power you seek you go upward to to 11 and one o'clock

    • @felipeortizvillegas8929
      @felipeortizvillegas8929 7 місяців тому

      @@atrem7942 I was under the impression that you remove the overgrip and main grip, and put strips of lead onto the handle part itself… isn’t the trap door only for silicone? Which is a more permanent solution?

  • @Jlymansackhead
    @Jlymansackhead 6 місяців тому

    If I need more or less weight, I will just search for a different racket that is still balanced for my play style. If it isn’t at least 12 ounces strung with at least 10pts headlight balance, it isn’t gonna be for me. My current racket is ncode six one 95 18x20, and I don’t know if I will ever find a racket that compares. I want to test the new Prince Phantom 18x20. It looks to have similar specs.

  • @mattiastennis
    @mattiastennis 7 місяців тому

    Head Extreme Tour Auxetic 2022 is one of the best racquets out there and one of the best for one handed backhand, however, I am yet to try(soon) the new Head Boom Pro Auxetic 2.0 which apparently is better overall feel than the first Auxetic

    • @TheTennisDaddy
      @TheTennisDaddy 7 місяців тому +1

      Extreme Tour with Auxetic 2.0 is coming out this year I’ve been told

    • @mattiastennis
      @mattiastennis 7 місяців тому

      @@TheTennisDaddy Who told you this? Apparently nothing for Extreme Tour until 2025 but could be wrong

    • @TheTennisDaddy
      @TheTennisDaddy 7 місяців тому +1

      @@mattiastennis A Head rep earlier this year but they could be wrong too or things could’ve changed

    • @mattiastennis
      @mattiastennis 7 місяців тому +1

      @@TheTennisDaddy Can you contact that Head rep again somehow? You are Amerika or Europa? I was told by a contact in Central Europa that the only Head release in 2024 was Boom's following the Speed's. Gravity's were 2023 following Radical's. I know Extreme's will have to be 2025 though
      Interested to hear more

    • @TheTennisDaddy
      @TheTennisDaddy 7 місяців тому +1

      @@mattiastennis I’ll ask him again…I’m in Australia…they kept the release of the Speed Legend quiet from the public too but he had them on hand in January and showed me them when I picked up the Extremes, so whether it’s kept quiet too about the new extremes or if it’s now 2025, I’ll ask and see if it’s changed👌

  • @Tennis040
    @Tennis040 7 місяців тому

    Have to smile ❤ same specs on my vcore pro 97 on point my homebase if nothing works. anymore❤️‍🔥

  • @Jakub_G_Tennis
    @Jakub_G_Tennis 7 місяців тому

    Leather grip does magic too

  • @mikecbrblue
    @mikecbrblue 7 місяців тому

    Just weighed my Blade 98 V8 RG. 338g

  • @Barrettpharmd
    @Barrettpharmd 7 місяців тому +1

    What about a leather grip instead of lead in the handle?

    • @MartynCollins
      @MartynCollins 7 місяців тому

      Leather adds about 15 grams

    • @TheBlessedLion
      @TheBlessedLion 7 місяців тому

      @@MartynCollins15…?? 3mm thick or what…?

    • @feralonmu
      @feralonmu 7 місяців тому

      Between 15 and 20 grams...

    • @hybrid11theory75
      @hybrid11theory75 7 місяців тому +1

      @@MartynCollins Most leather grips on standard length are adding between 7-10 g depending on the quality of the leather... ,)

    • @adamjohnson3239
      @adamjohnson3239 7 місяців тому

      ​@@TheBlessedLion With an overgrip.

  • @ivanjosemartinbatres2041
    @ivanjosemartinbatres2041 7 місяців тому

    What karakal grip???

  • @hcho8164
    @hcho8164 4 місяці тому

    I found serve to be the hardest to do with heavy racket.

  • @ef4186
    @ef4186 7 місяців тому

    Jonas, are you with Extreme Tour now? No, Dunlop any more?? ;-)

    • @Tennisnerd
      @Tennisnerd  7 місяців тому +1

      I am back to 98 sq inches, Boom Pro or Extreme Tour, not sure. But heavily customized.

  • @peterkavanagh64
    @peterkavanagh64 7 місяців тому

    Weigth slows the arm thus preps earlier but time shotmrten

  • @pedroleitedefaria7255
    @pedroleitedefaria7255 7 місяців тому

    Is that club in Marbella?

    • @Tennisnerd
      @Tennisnerd  7 місяців тому

      Yes, Bel-air in between Marbella and Estepona

  • @goggleboy2464
    @goggleboy2464 4 місяці тому

    To me it cant be so heavy that i cant attack with the serve and forehand

  • @yonexfan12
    @yonexfan12 7 місяців тому +1

    Some things I see in the comments, not really in the video....no rec player should use the RF97 or something close to it (unless you know more about tennis and rackets than the guy who Novak goes to for his advice)....ua-cam.com/video/eTj-labBKtg/v-deo.htmlsi=yXtxPl-SaLxJSyw6&t=1172. A racket that is 305 oz or 310 SW is stable, if you hit the sweetspot , don't lead up or buy a racket for stability if you are just chasing stability for all the missshits. The heaviest racket you can use is one you can win a singles tournament with, playing 4-5 matches in 3 days in 100 F/37C temps with no fatigue.

    • @shroud1390
      @shroud1390 6 місяців тому

      I had to weight my RF97a up to 422g to make it playable. Stock it was too light and I served in the net too much. It was also weird in that it would flex differently on different balls. Current stick is 459 sw. But i would struggle with any racquet on your tournament requirement…

  • @Robust2013
    @Robust2013 7 місяців тому

    I put 10 grams in the buttcap of my Phantom 100x and it became too whippy 😅

  • @CH-yp5by
    @CH-yp5by 7 місяців тому +1

    Kirshbum Super Smash is a monofilament polyester which is a hell of a lot softer than a co polyester

    • @James-qv1dr
      @James-qv1dr 7 місяців тому +1

      All polys (including co polys) are 'monofilament polyester' strings. It's also not true that co polys are more stiff than super smash and that's because it is a co poly. You're just repeating bad info from intuitive tennis.

  • @jimbo1san
    @jimbo1san 7 місяців тому

    Federer winning RG playing with the six.one 90 🤔

  • @mattiastennis
    @mattiastennis 7 місяців тому

    Do you or anyone else meditate under that tree?

  • @anonusniogsonisrgnip
    @anonusniogsonisrgnip 7 місяців тому +2

    Dont use a heavy racket

  • @caioprudente3279
    @caioprudente3279 7 місяців тому +1

    first?

  • @peterkavanagh64
    @peterkavanagh64 7 місяців тому

    Avpid leaduse the heakth safety weights offered its the racjet left by tine the playrrs arruve have this nature, abd tge grips naycvh

    • @peterkavanagh64
      @peterkavanagh64 7 місяців тому

      The ubdergrip unchabged but iver ok its not clever , lead weeps stop that abd many in other ckubs or courts piblic ebjoy the yime. No damages

  • @ispeakasiplease
    @ispeakasiplease 7 місяців тому +1

    Most of you are fine with stock specs. But yall can’t resist…

  • @peterkavanagh64
    @peterkavanagh64 7 місяців тому

    The stabdsrds have to run wuth every nirmal ckub . Players srrive see there beed buy thus rental and habd back itsvubsystainable leabvibg the pksyers xbd cusyomers pkay wjike enjitubgblufe the mabufactures havevluves

    • @Tennisnerd
      @Tennisnerd  7 місяців тому

      Hey Peter, what are you typing with? I can’t understand any of these comments…