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- Опубліковано 19 жов 2024
- 2019-06-04
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In this video we're talking lectern microphones and looking at some tricks to get the most out of the mics you may have on hand. How to mitigate popped p's and tame lectern screamers and shouters.
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Hello, could I please get a link to the mounting parts? thanks
The little extension arm is available as a part of this mount - amzn.to/46vLkhG - though the XLR parts Jake used became unavailable not long after this video was made. We're still looking for a suitable alternative and will post an update if something turns up.
@@DcSoundOp any updates yet?
Same question, I’m using an Audix MB series small diaphragm condenser for my primary lectern mic and want to add an ME36 as a second mic, similar to what you guys have done with the 18” gooseneck and the shotgun alongside/in front…
Like it. Can we add a stretch goal of grounding the 48V phantom line to the metal gooseneck to dissuade 'repositioning' by overzealous presenters?! 😂
4:31 "…when you're dealing with a single microphone that's your entire show…" …..Great point!
Man, when you were showing off the tendencies of weird mic habits, I couldn't help but laugh for having seen most of them 😂 Will definitely look into a dual mic system =)
Interested in the mount build. Looks very workable.
DUDE YES. I'm definitely interested in that mounting parts list of you have it. This is a game changer, I've been brainstorming how to accomplish something similar with a boundary solution for a few years now, and feel like an idiot not having considered shotgun.
Additionally, I haven't really used preamps like you're using for lectern mics before. Obviously you're getting a better signal to noise ratio, but in your experience of spoken word driven events, is that not overkill? I'm curious to try it myself some time.
Why have I never thought of this before!?! Brilliant! That'll be on my next job!
This is why I love the dual 57 rig. There is HUGE gain before feedback and doesn’t require people eat the mic. I hate the MX418 with every cell in my body, but we have some earthworks podium mics in my shop that I use a lot.
But the old presidential put those 57s like 2.5ft in front of the presenter... I would max the pre amps trying to get them to useable level.
Andrew Logan Cloud Lifts are a thing
@@BrianRussTVC was definitely in my consideration set, and certainly on my request list if I ever saw that podium again. Thankfully hasn't been a problem, and our new President has the ol' dangler in front of his mouth.
Andrew Logan He sees a big black stick in front of him and he’s got to go grabbing it.
Absolute pro tip. Thank you! I have never thought of this perfect hack.
Fantastic! I love it. Beautiful video and content. This will solve a constant problem that I have with presenters at my church.
I absolutely love these next level pro audio techniques! Keep em coming!!!
Definitely need that parts list! I need to add this setup to my crash kit, maybe 2
Good stuff, man! I do quote a few events in the same way where that one center podium is the whole show. I'd used the Earthworks FM series for some time, but ended up moving away from them due to several unit failures....kinda had to give them the boot after the 4th one bit the dust. I've started using DPAs with 4011 caps with excellent success. The cardioid pattern is pretty razor sharp, and I have noticed that sometimes I'll lose people faster that go off axis. Can you describe the pattern preference on your shotgun solution? Just curious what your preference has been....it would make sense that you should be able to get reasonable gain before feedback due to those having tight patters as well.
I'm interested in the mount info for sure.Thanks!
Hi, really useful technique, TYSM! BTW i mostly do live stuff and so I'm a bit skeptical about the shotgun. Wouldn't it feedback if placed that far from the source? What's your experience? I mean i use 412 on regular basis and struggle with feedback management, will this not feedback, thanks in advance!
Hi, good questions. Any spoken word mic in a live reinforcement setting is going to have huge potential for feedback. Mitigating that is the whole job for us. The point of this setup is to have options. Obviously, if you're on the edge of feedback with someone standing back from the mics, you'd want to be using the taller element. When they lean in an eat the mic, that's when the shotgun is really useful. There is no magic solution & every room, stage and even lectern can give you a different result. Thanks for checking out the video!
Nice, needed this on Friday night... Awards seasons back.
I'm not a sound guy other people in my team are. I'm a video guy also based out of the DC area. My company we shoot a lot of conferences and gala events here. I could tell you some stories with people and their mucking about with the podium mic. Just shot a big event last night and the speakers that got up there actually twisted the mic off the podium screwing with it so much, don't ask me how. For a number of years I have been thinking maybe mounting two very small shotgun mics on the podium, one on the left and one on the right. Especially now with some of these small shotgun mics I see that are available, I often wonder how that would workout. Besides eliminating presenters constantly fumbling with the mic and causing a lot of noise in my headphones my images would look better with out a mic right in the middle of their faces especially on the short people that get up there. Camera audio would be great but I wonder about room audio as well.
I would pay good money for that mount. If the xlr is built in like it looks like, then I would definitely order a pair
I have wanted to try this on a lark. This gives me the confidence to try it!
Andrew Logan it’s always worth experimenting! Hope you’re doing great dude!
Thanks for the plans
Double Pro Tip: Neve turn on the main microphone, it's but a prop.
thanks , great info . pleas send info about parts supplier
For the short extension, you can get an On-Stage MY700 stereo bar and take one of the end extensions off and use that. You would screw the open end over the stand you're attaching your primary mic to, and attach the shorter mic to the threaded knob you're left with on the little extension. Here's a link - amzn.to/46vLkhG
THANK YOU!
i know this video is a view years old now, but would it be possible to get a parts list for the stereo bar adaptors?.
Hey Chris, I'll see what I can find. I think the last time I asked the guys who put this kit together, the parts they were using had been discontinued by the supplier or something.
love the mount techniques quick question would use this on acrylic podium as well?
Whitson Williams Absolutely, we’ve had it on one for the past few weeks. Thanks for the question!
I'm very interested in your clip/mount/cable set up.
I need recommendations for a lectern / podium mic. I take care of sound for our local school district.
Need to be able to use a boom mic stand because sometimes there is a podium, sometimes not. Have to accommodate from kindergarten thru adult.
I often use two mics. SM57/58 or Sennheiser 835 on two stands. One down low for the kids, the other high for adults or taller children.
Of course it’s impossible to get all of them to position themselves correctly in front of a mic. I spend as much time as possible politely explaining where to stand. But, in the moment they usually forget. It’s understandable. In an ideal world people would practice how to use a mic. They don’t, and won’t. So, being realistic, have to be prepared for anything.
I have on occasion used a small condenser mic. I’m able to hear them better, until, somebody decides to lean in. Well, you know what happens then. Plosives.
Budget is an issue
For covering kindergartners through adults, I think you might have found the best approach with an SM58 or 835 on a stand. Spending more money on a mic isn't going to fix the problems you have highlighted. Also, in a school setting, it's really a perfect time to let everyone learn that microphones simply don't work if you don't speak into them. I've had some success getting the science & physics teachers on my side to help explain this to other educators and staff before... your mileage may vary though.
Fantastic idea
Thank you! Cheers!
For the countryman A3 are you using the hypercardioid version?
Vivid Image Productions Exactly, it’s the A3H18 specifically. Thanks or the message!
Do you find that the Sennheiser has to be gained up pretty high? I picked one up to try this technique and will surely use it for other things, but I had to gain it up pretty high.
Hi Josh, in my experience you shouldn't have to gain the Sennheiser up to anything crazy. I'm sure you've double checked the element is screwed on all the way, but otherwise if you're really having to gas it up, something might be wrong. Obviously it will require more gain than the mic that is much closer to the person speaking, but again, nothing out of the ordinary for a mic at that distance.
@@DcSoundOp Thanks for the reply. The capsule seems tight, but the part right above that rotates continuously. Is that by design?
Hey josh, can you shoot me a photo of the part your talking about? info@dcsoundop.com - thanks!
Great stuff!
excellent!
I'm not sure of the actual technique here. Are you switching between the 2 or just fading them in and out?
ocularis73 Use the mic that works best for each person, that’s all.
You could fade between and use one to reinforce the other, phase depending, depends what sounds good I guess
How can I get a parts list for that mount?
do u have the partlist ready ?
low profile xlr connectors, tapped for the stand shaft....the small stereo bar hack....
Would be interested in the mount parts list if you have it
There is a video & full list in the works from the guy who made it! Hopefully will have it soon.
@@DcSoundOp I'd love to see it..
@@DcSoundOp Did this video ever get made?
@DcSoundOp Curious if this video ever came out???
Can you recommend a how to setup video for Duel Gooseneck podium mic
Hey Alex, what part of the setup are you looking for more info on? Is it the physical placement or the audio settings you're after? Typically with dual mic setups (like the one in this video) you are only ever using one mic at a time, so it's pretty much business as usual, but with more options. Let me know what you've got going on & I'll try to help.
Thanks.
How it is mounted on a podium?
There is a clamp with essentially one side of a stereo bar pointed towards the talent to create the near & far mounts.
Great tip but video might’ve been a bit long! :)