Great compilation, I like it. I'd just like to add two things: 1. Hungarian vocabulary isn't only 21% of uralic origin. The biggest part (31%) is "uncertain", which means that linguistics didn't manage to prove where these words come from, probably partially uralic too. 2. Csángó is a Hungarian dialect. The vocabulary is a little bit different and sounds slightly archaic, but I understood every single word of the csángó song (sung by Sebestyén Márta, the greatest Hungarian folk singer of all time).
csango is mostly cosnidered a dialect but there is a small movement that wants to say its a language (similar thing with rauma dialect of finnish) and i decided to include it for that reason
These "uncertain" words could also become from an extinct language family, or extinct language isolate (even today a living language isolate, the Ket, is in the area not very far from the other Ugric peoples). That happened with Saami languages, the unclassified Paleo-European language(s) in the area became extinct, but left substrate to Saami languages. As Hungarians have as well as no haplogroup N, carried by the early Uralic peoples, an early language shift is possible.
@@forgottenmusic1 hungarians do have the haplogroup N just 3% but ancient hungarian graves had 15%, and if hungarian has yeniseian loanwords they would be of hunnic origin (huns were partly yeniseian)
@@valt8025 Well, I have seen another study claiming that N is only 1% in Hungary (and 2% in Romania according to the same source lol). As long as there are studies with just a few hundreds of samples, all we can agree with is just that this percentage is really low, not about the exact % (the funniest result I've seen was when it was claimed that Japanese are 98% genetically Japanese,; there were 50 samples, so 1 person appeared to be not...) I brought the example of Kets just to claim that in theory, there could be more language isolates in the region back then, but it didn't have to be Yenisei area, could as well be anywhere the proto-Magyars were formed or staying for some period, like the area of Bashkortostan f.e.
Treasure of a compilation! Thank you so much for this enrichment. What excites me about these are the clearly more modern pieces of music in these rare languages. (Also, the fact that many are in a distinctly recognizable eastern European disco beat makes you wonder what kind of flavors of their own such cultures might've developed in their music had they had a stronger surviving linguistic presence). "No flag, no songs" hits hard.
You have no idea how happy you made me with this video, and also the song choices, im glad you didnt used Kis grófó or something like that for the Hungarian one! Its also sad to see how many launguage are literally dying
Same goes to meänkieli that is identical to the Finnish dialects of Finnish Lapland. But if I say so there will be a dozen angry people telling how wrong I am.
I live at Pondicherry, India. I know 7 languages, such as English, French, Ancient Greek, Latin, Sanskrit, Telugu( a native language of India) Hindi, Bengali, Kannada, all languages native to India. Thus I like your above video very much.
Does anyone know the title of the track for the Vepsian language? And by the way, more importantly, THANK YOU for this compilation, this is the most complete I've as of now seen!
10:00 the Hungarian song is basically the anthem of right wingers in Hungary. It's called "Horthy Miklós katonája vagyok " (I'm the soldier of Miklós Hothy)
Підписка одразу ❤ ти робиш велику справу, чувак😊 ці мови, які в небезпеці, це не просто мови окремих племен, що скоро помруть, це величезне надбання для людської цивілізації, і я дуже сподіваюся, що ми знайдемо спосіб зберегти їх живими, привернути до них увагу
Спасибо за добрые слова ❤️❤️❤️🙏🏻 Щиро дякую. Спасаю карельский язык своим примером - нашла педагога, собрали группу желающих, не дадим языку дедов умереть! 🔥
Csángó is a hungarian dialect, not a language. That's a fact. I don't know who the "some people" are, but they are wrong. Csángó dialect is totally intelligible to hungarians, although sometimes might be hard to understand because it was left out for centuries of language development.
Erzya has a dialect - Shoksha. This dialect appeared during the isolation of Erzya and the influence of the Moksha language on it. (just interesting information)
Напишу специально на этом языке, чтобы прочитали люди, которые скорее всего являются потомками народов, о которых поется в этом видео. Неужели вы не понимаете, что потеря даже единственного языка является невероятной утратой для всей человеческой цивилизации? Неужели вам столь безразлично? Это же ваше, родное, это о вас. Не забывайте эти языки, говорите ими, пишите ими, пойте ими песни!
Titulo Teoria Nostratica 1.Palabras similares en varios idiomas Por ejemplo:Yukaghir:Oɣa Indo-Europeo:Cʷeu̯is Uralico:Keu̯i Samoyedico:uc 2.Mucha gente no sabe que es el indoeuropeo asi que pondre todas las lenguas indoeuropeas posibles aqui: Italico:Ou̯is Celta:Ou̯is Anatolio:Hwou̯is Lusitanio:Oʰilā Germanico:au̯iz Indo Iranio:áu̯is Balto Eslavico:Ou̯iš 3.Ahora pondre ejemplos de idiomas Uralicos: Finnico(Finlandés Antiguo):
Idk why some people claim that Csángó is a language. Its really not. Its hungarian from a couple hundred years back basically. And now its slowly going to die out in the heart of Romania. Thank you very much France Edit: before any mad people arrive here, trianon was right however the borders arent. They should have made it by nationalities to avoid conflicts. But we all know that avoiding conflict was not what they wanted back then.
Did you know that if you move the sticks on the flag of Moksha, you will get something unacceptable. You have noticed that the colors on Erzy's flag are the same as those of the German Empire😁
using music as examples isn't good for language. it's hard to clearly make out text, especially language specific phonemes and stress patterns, with music in the background, and singing versus spoken text is less clear. this would be much more effective if it were just spoken examples.
Всё очень просто. Есть национальное государство - язык живет: Венгрия, Эстония, Финляндия. Нет национального государства - языки вымирают пачками, как в РФ. Даже такие красивые и богатые, как карельский.
In the Erzyan part of this video the song is not very good choice, I've listened this song in every video "Sound of the Uralic laguages".😉 There are better folk bands, for example Toorama or Merema, they sing in both Mordvinic languages.
The hungarian is an old european neolitic or mezolitic langauge not uralic. Only CWC (Corded Ware Culture) bring this langauge to Ural area from Central-Europe.
Great compilation, I like it. I'd just like to add two things:
1. Hungarian vocabulary isn't only 21% of uralic origin. The biggest part (31%) is "uncertain", which means that linguistics didn't manage to prove where these words come from, probably partially uralic too.
2. Csángó is a Hungarian dialect. The vocabulary is a little bit different and sounds slightly archaic, but I understood every single word of the csángó song (sung by Sebestyén Márta, the greatest Hungarian folk singer of all time).
csango is mostly cosnidered a dialect but there is a small movement that wants to say its a language (similar thing with rauma dialect of finnish) and i decided to include it for that reason
These "uncertain" words could also become from an extinct language family, or extinct language isolate (even today a living language isolate, the Ket, is in the area not very far from the other Ugric peoples). That happened with Saami languages, the unclassified Paleo-European language(s) in the area became extinct, but left substrate to Saami languages. As Hungarians have as well as no haplogroup N, carried by the early Uralic peoples, an early language shift is possible.
@@forgottenmusic1 hungarians do have the haplogroup N just 3% but ancient hungarian graves had 15%, and if hungarian has yeniseian loanwords they would be of hunnic origin (huns were partly yeniseian)
@@forgottenmusic1 hungarians lost theN haplo due to constant wars and mixing with slavic tribes
@@valt8025 Well, I have seen another study claiming that N is only 1% in Hungary (and 2% in Romania according to the same source lol). As long as there are studies with just a few hundreds of samples, all we can agree with is just that this percentage is really low, not about the exact % (the funniest result I've seen was when it was claimed that Japanese are 98% genetically Japanese,; there were 50 samples, so 1 person appeared to be not...)
I brought the example of Kets just to claim that in theory, there could be more language isolates in the region back then, but it didn't have to be Yenisei area, could as well be anywhere the proto-Magyars were formed or staying for some period, like the area of Bashkortostan f.e.
0:00 Meänkieli
0:40 Kven
1:20 Finnish
2:00 Karelian
2:40 Ludic
3:20 Vepsian
4:00 Izhorian/Ingrian
4:34 Votic
4:56 Estonian
5:34 Voro
6:14 Seto
6:54 Livonian
7:39 Mansi
8:49 Khanty
9:59 Hungarian
11:10 Csango
12:19 Komi zyrian
13:59 Komi permyak
15:09 Udmurt
16:49 Nenets
18:00 Selkup
18:49 Enets
19:19 Nganasan
20:09 Yukaghir (Related to)
21:22 North saami
22:03 Inarissami
22:53 Skolt saami
23:43 Southern saami
24:39 Kildin saami
25:29 Lule saami
26:19 Ume saami
27:17 Meadow mari
28:20 Erzyan
29:00 Moksha
U forgot hill mari
You forgot Turkish, and the most important thing is, did you do this consciously?
@@TUNC66 turkish isn't finno-ugric
Treasure of a compilation! Thank you so much for this enrichment.
What excites me about these are the clearly more modern pieces of music in these rare languages. (Also, the fact that many are in a distinctly recognizable eastern European disco beat makes you wonder what kind of flavors of their own such cultures might've developed in their music had they had a stronger surviving linguistic presence).
"No flag, no songs" hits hard.
Here are all the songs i could find, i'll add more when i find more
0:00 Meänkieli - Länsmannin ammuin
0:40 Kven - (Folk song) ua-cam.com/video/fWOIrGk-HnE/v-deo.html
1:20 Finnish - Kauan On Kärsitty
2:00 Karelian
2:40 Ludic
3:20 Vepsian
4:00 Izhorian/Ingrian
4:34 Votic - Vihma (Maaväči)
4:56 Estonian - Metsavendade laul
5:34 Võro - Väräjämäng
6:14 Seto
6:54 Livonian - Rikāz rānda
7:39 Mansi
8:49 Khanty
9:59 Hungarian - Horthy Miklós Katonája Vagyok
11:10 Csango - Én Felkelék
12:19 Komi zyrian - Zil'-Z'ol'
13:59 Komi permyak - Нёль вон
15:09 Udmurt
16:49 Nenets - Sengakoca
18:00 Selkup - Sel'kup People, Stand Up, Sel'kup!
18:49 Enets
19:19 Nganasan
20:09 Yukaghir - Chakhadan
21:22 North saami - Valsen (Duolva Duottar)
22:03 Inarissami - Suomârâp uarjih
22:53 Skolt saami - (National Sámi anthem) ua-cam.com/video/NhlH_yrcwS8/v-deo.html
23:43 Southern saami
24:39 Kildin saami
25:29 Lule saami - Vájnnodav viehkev
26:19 Ume saami
27:17 Meadow mari
28:20 Erzyan - Söksj
29:00 Moksha
Mansi song is “Kurenya Bear Dance”, and Kildin Sami is the “Sami Anthem Kildin Sami version”
Nganasan is “Tajmyr Nganasan Song”
Ludic is “Rupč by Anna Tulla”, and Karelian is “Linnalaine neičyt”
Где написано луговомарийский, там две песни. Первая действительно на луговомарийском, а вторая на горномарийском языке.
The karelian song was the best one i think 😄
This video is a true treasure. Internet is better thanks to this. Period
2:00 Karelian: Linnalaine neičyt
2:40 Ludic: Rupč
3:20 Vepsian: Kahten
These were made by the Karelian-Vepsian duo by the name of "Anna Tulla".
You have no idea how happy you made me with this video, and also the song choices, im glad you didnt used Kis grófó or something like that for the Hungarian one! Its also sad to see how many launguage are literally dying
Horthy Miklós :D
Kis Grófo can be used in the Indic languages compilation
Wow i never have heard of some, and how many speakers some of these have. Also incredible video 10/10.
As a hungarian I can understand all of csángó its only a dialect.
Same goes to meänkieli that is identical to the Finnish dialects of Finnish Lapland. But if I say so there will be a dozen angry people telling how wrong I am.
yeah I'm so angry rn lol
Ain't no way Csango is a separate language from Hungarian I literally understand everything from the words to the sentence structure, it's the same
I agree. It is Magyar with a Székely inflection...
Csángó is ancient Hungarian!
Kiitos ! ❤ Greetings from Finland.
I think this is The best uralic language video but still only 35 likes.
I'm the 124th
@@MrJuulia01 OK
You should add which language is in which branch(like Mordvinic, Ugric, Samoyedic etc)
I am Swedish and proud of my roots in the Meänkieli and Sámi cultures!
Me too. I'm from the Finnish side of Tornevalley, but I have a lot of relatives on the Swedish side of Tornevalley
Serious efforts must be made to preserve Nganasan language, but as a Hungarian, what can I do? I really want to do something
How long until Rauma stops being a Finnish dialect and becomes its own language? I literally don't know what they're saying
Csángó is Hungarian. As a Hungarian I can understand every words from it.
of course there is "kaartin paluumarssi/kauan on kärsitty" playing in the Finnish part XD
I live at Pondicherry, India. I know 7 languages, such as English, French, Ancient Greek, Latin, Sanskrit, Telugu( a native language of India) Hindi, Bengali, Kannada, all languages native to India. Thus I like your above video very much.
What song is for Udmurt?
Languages I'd *love* to hear in Eurovision.
There should be a minority Eurovision.
Does anyone know the title of the track for the Vepsian language? And by the way, more importantly, THANK YOU for this compilation, this is the most complete I've as of now seen!
The Vepsian song is "Kahten" by "Anna Tulla"
I was surprised on how much I understood meänkieli and kven. And yes. My native is Finnish
Well they are basically Finnish dialectcs 😁 They are classified as different languages only because they are spoken outside of Finland.
10:00 the Hungarian song is basically the anthem of right wingers in Hungary. It's called "Horthy Miklós katonája vagyok "
(I'm the soldier of Miklós Hothy)
The Ludic song is beautiful!
Песня на ливонском тоже прекрасна! Как и на моём родном марийском.
Actually, most of the lyrics we hear in the song supposed to be North Sámi, is in Norwegian... 🤔🤫🫣
Wish i understand Nenet, Enet and Selkup language. My Fin-Ural ancestors, hopefully your culture and language will continue until forever...
That map from the thumbnail would be helpful, at least in the beginning or end
Eres un héroe, adoré el vídeo
Parece que no soy el único hispano por aqui
@@soslanroseft4750 lmao
The Meadow Mari, Erzyan and Udmurt songs slapped
Eurodance tunes /Casio synthesizer melodies + songs in Finno-ugric minority languages in the Russian federation = Bangers.
Sadly, Enets is the only Uralic ethnic group that doesn't have a flag :(
Підписка одразу ❤ ти робиш велику справу, чувак😊 ці мови, які в небезпеці, це не просто мови окремих племен, що скоро помруть, це величезне надбання для людської цивілізації, і я дуже сподіваюся, що ми знайдемо спосіб зберегти їх живими, привернути до них увагу
Спасибо за добрые слова ❤️❤️❤️🙏🏻
Щиро дякую.
Спасаю карельский язык своим примером - нашла педагога, собрали группу желающих, не дадим языку дедов умереть! 🔥
@@ankaszta такі люди як ви, це майбутнє вашої землі❤️ а от у якому вигляді вона буде, чи незалежна, чи в якійсь федерації, покаже час))
Csángó is a hungarian dialect, not a language. That's a fact. I don't know who the "some people" are, but they are wrong. Csángó dialect is totally intelligible to hungarians, although sometimes might be hard to understand because it was left out for centuries of language development.
I said that it is most of the time claimed as a dialect
Erzya has a dialect - Shoksha. This dialect appeared during the isolation of Erzya and the influence of the Moksha language on it.
(just interesting information)
@@l..k.i.1461 I always thought Shoksha is a dialect of the Moksha language
Напишу специально на этом языке, чтобы прочитали люди, которые скорее всего являются потомками народов, о которых поется в этом видео. Неужели вы не понимаете, что потеря даже единственного языка является невероятной утратой для всей человеческой цивилизации? Неужели вам столь безразлично? Это же ваше, родное, это о вас. Не забывайте эти языки, говорите ими, пишите ими, пойте ими песни!
Titulo Teoria Nostratica
1.Palabras similares en varios idiomas
Por ejemplo:Yukaghir:Oɣa Indo-Europeo:Cʷeu̯is Uralico:Keu̯i Samoyedico:uc
2.Mucha gente no sabe que es el indoeuropeo asi que pondre todas las lenguas indoeuropeas posibles aqui:
Italico:Ou̯is Celta:Ou̯is Anatolio:Hwou̯is Lusitanio:Oʰilā Germanico:au̯iz Indo Iranio:áu̯is Balto Eslavico:Ou̯iš
3.Ahora pondre ejemplos de idiomas Uralicos:
Finnico(Finlandés Antiguo):
Imagine the more years we go, the more less speakers makes me want to learn all, but i wouldn't anyways. 😂
The hill mari song is catchy, name? 27:41
The song is It Ojhyry (Ит ойхыры - Don't Cry) by Mikhail Tolstov and Lidiya Kuchera.
@Unyonable Gaming а почему бы и нет? Он все правильно написал. Я мари, папа из луговых, мама из горных, понимаю оба диалекта.
I'm Norwegian and kven Finnish among others cultures British mainly i want to salute the singing and the video thanks
Thank you for sharing
What are the Inarisaami and Meänkieli and Hungarian songs called?
Inari saami: Suomârâp Uarjih ua-cam.com/video/bCDqAq3S8ws/v-deo.html
Meänkieli: Länsmannin ammuin ua-cam.com/video/Xhh4XWN_nbc/v-deo.html
Hungarian: Katonája vagyok ua-cam.com/video/NuFAMAYjgq8/v-deo.html
The Hungarian one is called:Horthy Miklós katonája vagyok, it's a soldier's song, saying goodbye to his loved ones,
Idk why some people claim that Csángó is a language. Its really not. Its hungarian from a couple hundred years back basically. And now its slowly going to die out in the heart of Romania. Thank you very much France
Edit: before any mad people arrive here, trianon was right however the borders arent. They should have made it by nationalities to avoid conflicts. But we all know that avoiding conflict was not what they wanted back then.
Fascinating video ⚛✝️
Also, I feel sorry for you recieving injust and baseless criticism
12:35 Komin kielessä kokonaisuudessaan on paljon murteita, ei vain Zyryansky ja Perm, vaan kaikki komit ovat aina komeja❤
Did you know that if you move the sticks on the flag of Moksha, you will get something unacceptable.
You have noticed that the colors on Erzy's flag are the same as those of the German Empire😁
Meänkieli ja kaihnuu on molemmat fiinejä kieliä ( meänkieli )
Meänkieli ja kvääni oon molemmat fiinei kielii ( kven )
Eikö meänkieleä puhuvat ymmärrä suomea, kun ne on suomalainen vähemmistö, joka asuu ruotsissa suomen ja ruotsin rajan vierellä.
and as an estonian speaker i understand both 😊
meä keel ja kvääni keel on mõlemad soome keeled
What song is the Northern Sami song?
It's one of Duolva Duottar's tracks.
using music as examples isn't good for language. it's hard to clearly make out text, especially language specific phonemes and stress patterns, with music in the background, and singing versus spoken text is less clear. this would be much more effective if it were just spoken examples.
I understand all of csángó or almost all of it that is spoken today.
Всё очень просто. Есть национальное государство - язык живет: Венгрия, Эстония, Финляндия. Нет национального государства - языки вымирают пачками, как в РФ. Даже такие красивые и богатые, как карельский.
Well they dont have a country but atleast a "republics" inside the "federation" y know like komi republic
а тарасам до всего дело есть. 🤣
@@alekszmaalmen7559 what do you do here then? If you don't have Finnish roots, why to bother? If you have, than it's shame for your ancestors
@@RuthenianGirl ты больше себе данный вопрос задай, очередной "тарас" "щирый взаукраинец з норвегии"🤣
In the Erzyan part of this video the song is not very good choice, I've listened this song in every video "Sound of the Uralic laguages".😉 There are better folk bands, for example Toorama or Merema, they sing in both Mordvinic languages.
Also the Hungarian one. Out of thousands, why... just why this one...
I agree, Toorama would sound better
What is the Udmurt song?
@ღ꧁Yin_And_Yang Sisters ꧂ღ thanks
this is old, but what is the name of the song? thanks
Whats the name of the song?
Thanks
What is this livonian song
Where can I found Southern Sámi song?
In nortjern lappi probably
Hey, there was a Swedish Sami and a thai Karen who could understand each other languages.
I can speak Estonian and finnish so I understand some words. very cool👍
Me from uralic country. It,s finland🇫🇮 PERKELE
can i get the songs from meänkieli and kven
länsmannin ammuin ( meänkieli )
hyvän illan ( kven )
@@valt8025 kiitos
27:35 I heard Shamone
Im Hungarian :) (Uralic)🇭🇺🇭🇺
❤ Greetings from Finland.
Eläkhöön Meänkieli!
Khanty song is Ханты Ясанг
The Ingrian one is Maarojani (ua-cam.com/video/QwqNTvVMeMI/v-deo.html)
Mistä löydän sen unkarilaisen laulun?
ua-cam.com/video/kQ9h9UEeyUI/v-deo.html
Horthy Miklós katonája vagyok - Kárpátia
@@mysteriousDSF tiiän sen jo
Sampereesti saameja
I like the Vepsian
Эрзянь Мастор ⚪🔴⚫
Ine Ěrzäň Mastor)
⚪⚪⚪⚪⚪
🔴🔴🔴🔴🔴
⚫⚫⚫⚫⚫
Lassan mindnyájan kihalunk...
Tény ✝️⚛
@@godwannabe8976 Kihalunk, nem meghalunk...
@@vilmosistvankoszper4249 senki nem mondta hogy meghalunk ✝️⚛
Miután Putyin után összeomlik Oroszország, romjain létrehozhatjuk az uráli birodalmat
❤❤❤ Hungary
Harika
Ya ural znayu /⚫gde/ naxoditsa a uralic ne znayu.
/G⚫/Gush Garğa Graç!
L ne an /⚫guağ/e.
❤
The hungarian is an old european neolitic or mezolitic langauge not uralic. Only CWC (Corded Ware Culture) bring this langauge to Ural area from Central-Europe.
You are wrong, the language is clearly uralic based on regular sound correlations such as /x/ -> /h/ or p-> f
Also for a warning don’t bring genes into linguistics because language and genes are inherited differently, also old hungarian graves were 15% uralic
@@valt8025 What you say only a hypotesis, theory not fact.
@@laszlokovacs8086 it is accepted by virtualy all linguists, only some fringe nationalist, mainly turkic or hungarian nationalists reject it.
@@laszlokovacs8086 there is no real debate about the status of hungarian in professional circles
Funny how many of these songs sound like being sung incomprehensibly by drunk people, for my Hungarian ear XD
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Ok
Thanks Donnie
What is the Karelian song?
What is the Udmurt song?
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