Tamiya Cross Country Chassis CC-01 / CC-02 Comparison
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- Опубліковано 6 жов 2024
- Her you can see the cars running on the trails
CC-01: • Tamiya CC-01 Landrover...
CC-02: • Tamiya CC-02 Mercedes ...
Here you can see the upgrades on the CC-01 Chassis:
• Yeah Racing Aluminum E...
• Tamiya CC-01 Aluminum ...
• Tamiya CC-01 Stroke Ex...
• Tamiya CC-01 BARREL SP...
The CC-01 chassis from Tamyia is very old, it was released for the first time in 1993. Now in 2019 Tamiya released the second edition of this cross country car, the CC-02. This video shows the differences between these two 1:10 scale RC cars.
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I like these changes a lot. The steering linkage on my CC-01 drove me CRAZY
Thanks! 👍😊
Nice comparison video! I Will miss the departure from IFS on the CCO1. It was a unique feature of that car. Not many off road style rigs out there with IFS at that time. I actually have some metal drivetrain, suspension, and steering components to replace the weaker plastic parts.
Thanks! Maybe Tamiya let both platforms in there line-up. So everyone can choose what he prefer...
what makes tamiya a tamiya is they dont go stupid on the suspension articulation. Its a platform that is fun to use because you need to think a bit more when using it as a crawler
I agree! 👍😊😊
A very useful comparsion video! I also have CC-01 Land Rover Defender which is for my kid and I'm considering CC-02 chassis for myself. I have looked up Axial SCX10 and Traxxas TRX-4 but what I didn't realise is that they are much larger than Tamiya's pair. Prior to getting CC-01 a couple of years ago, I had considered other options such as Traxxas and Axial but Tamiya's commitment to maintaining the same chassis design over the years, without abandoning them, is what swayed me to CC01 for long term parts support etc.
Thank you! 🙏 Yes, here you can see the size differences between CC-01 and TRX-4: ua-cam.com/video/DH6hNVu9QBo/v-deo.html
@@Matteomeier That is very useful. I can see the wheels poking out etc, that made it look bigger than it is.
Thumbs up, Matteo. Hoping you would do a video like this. And here it is 🙂
Thanks to the north! Glad you liked it! 👍😊
Thank you for doing this, Matteo. I watched it because I'm wondering whether to buy a CC02, and this video has convinced me to do so.
Glad I could help! Enjoy your CC-02! 👍👍😊
@@Matteomeier It arrived recently, from Euro RC in Helsinki.
Good video and detailed explanation. I love CC01 because its platform is way different and unique. CC02 platform design is similar to most market players, and falls into severe competition, IMO
Thanks Eric! Your opinion is not wrong...
Some great points mentioned there. Cc-01 still a great car off road, but the cc-02 looks like a better car for tricky terrain and mild crawling. At any sort of speed cc02 is going to get filthy though. You can pick up the landfreeder for about £130, the CC02 is over £200.
Hello Matteo. I also have both of these trucks. I have both the Tamiya CC01 and also the Tamiya CC02. Tamiya used a lot of plastic parts on the CC02 chassis. I did buy a lot of metal parts for my CC02 Mercedes truck. It did improve the performance of the truck. However, both the CC01 and the CC02 will not be very good rock crawler trucks. They are only a trail truck. I just bought a Vanquish VS4-10pro truck. I have not yet built it. It is very expensive, but it is a rock crawler truck. Have you heard of this truck? This truck appears to have very good instructions and it also has a lot of metal parts too. Maybe you could do a build video on that truck?
Hey Alfred! Yes, it's true. As I said in the video the CC-02 have never the same performance as other Scale Crawlers like the Axial SCX-10 or Traxxas TRX-4. This is mostly because of the smaller size of the CC-02. VS4 is also bigger and so logically has better off-road capabilities. And yes it's very expensive (too much for me...😅😅😅)
Great companion my friend. Something to think about definitely if your looking to buy one of these. Thank you very much. 😎👌🏻👍🏻
Thanks Kingston for your good feedback! 👍😊
As you called the MST CMX the unofficial CC02, I'd love to see a compassion between the CMX/CFX and the CC02
I owned a MST CMX for a couple years. I converted it to a CFX when the option became available. I eventually sold the truck though, because I have a SCX10 II, a Vaterra Ascender, a TRX-4, a TRX-6, an Axial Wraith, and a modified Traxxas Telluride. The CMX/CFX is definitely a better truck than the CC-02, but the small size is an unavoidable disadvantage when driving in the woods. I would consider buying the larger CFX-W, if I didn't already have so many other crawlers, but in reality I've got all the rock crawling options I could ask for already.
Maybe I'll do this, but the problem is I don't have a stock CMX at the moment...
Exactly why I prefer bigger crawlers also!
I own a MST CFX that started as FJ40 (252mm wheelbase) and while 90x30mm tires look well compared to the size of the car, cannot be easily compared to, for example, a scx10 I/II because those chassis work with 110-120mm tires. I now use my CFX with a FJ Cruiser body (267mm wheelbase) and with 106mm tires obviously performs lots better. I also have a cc01 shelf queen that is already upgraded. I think the cc02 will be a nice option for trailing with short wheelbased projects.
Finally purchased CC02 :)
Thank you for always good video!!
Nice! Have fun with your CC-02! 👍😊
I sure wish I wasn't so hung up on having inner fenders on my crawlers! I know I'm missing out on a lot of cool trucks... damn those inner fenders!
I have to figure out how to curb my OCD! My faster RC cars/trucks (VXL-Rustler, Losi Tenacity) do not have inner fenders.
Retired life can really suck at times! Can an old dog learn new tricks? I'll be sure to let you know... LoL! I have two RC channels with the bell button mashed. You & Kisuns RC Life.
You guys keep it real & I respect that tremendously!
Thanks Matteo!
Thanks so much Brian! Verry glad to hear that from you! 👍👍😊😊
Very true my friend, you point out the pros and cons on these fabulous Tamiya cross country series.
I do like this brand new design RC kit, Tamiya item # 58675.
even though I don't like the G class in real world size...
but this G500 body shell is one of the most detailed rc lexan body set from Tamiya recently.
in my opinion, as a Tamiya fan boy(which I am), this kit is nothing else but a nice and pretty scaler to me.
and if I want a scaler chassis for now, CC-02 will not be my first choice,
because my old super low budget CC-01 can fit this scaler position easily.
and again, if I want a crawler...well, all I can say I am still in love with my old CR-01...
anyway, thank you for this nice comparison video, well done!!
Thank you for your nice and true feedback! 👍👍😊😊
My Friend Matteo, you say the CC-01 Chassis needs modifications to work right...
This is definitely an understatement!! 😳 To get mine to steer and track properly, needed over $150 in Suspension and Steering mods!!! 😖
But of course you know this. Your earlier Videos are what inspired me how to modify my CC-01 !! Thank you for this.
I may never be able to afford a CC-02, but I wish I could. I would replace my two CC-01 Chassis with them...
But not to throw the CC01 in the Bin! No, I would Scratchbuild a Dakar Rally Truck Body for it, because the high speed would be a good match. 👍👍
The CC-02 I would Scratchbuild inner Wheelwells, and raise up the links... But I probably won't get that chance. So I admire yours and others.
GOOD comparison Video my Friend!!
Carmine ✈🚂🚙
Thanks Carmine! Always nice to get fine feedbacks from you my friend! 👍😊
Another great video! Thumbs up!
Thank you! 👍👍😊😊
Great video! Nice to see the two in comparison :) I like them very much :)
Thanks for your nice feedback! 👍😊
Awesome comparison there, Matteo. Very informative. It would be interesting to see how the CC-02 compares to MST's CMX, considering both are smaller scale chassis with smaller wheels than the larger SCX10 and TRX4.
I was thinking about getting the CC-02, but I'd love some fenders for it to complete that scale look.
Thanks again Tomas! This comparison would be useful... maybe sometime I have some time to do this! (This sentence sounds weird to me😂)
Well, there are so many RC models and chassis coming out, one has little time to reflect over older designs. But some designs, and chassis, are timeless and will always come back as Tamiya's re-releases.
Great comparison video! Are the wheel base the same? Or is one longer than the other? Thank you!😎
Matteo, your video's are awesome man, I have since been searching for a CC-01 kit. I'll take less steering angle for inner wheel arches any day of the week 🤣each to their own.
Thanks! Good luck and have fun! 😊😊
Another great video, thank you Matteo and a two thumbs up for you.
Thank you! 👍😊
Hey Matteo, have you heard for a Channel called KatuRou. They make CC01 chassis handle more realistically than I have ever seen! They do it adding lots of lead in the right places. I can't post the link because for some reason youtube won't let me, but that is the youtube channel name. It looks really good and I think I will try it with my TRX4.
Yes, I know him and allready seen this videos. Of course this is a good way to reach a realistic movement. I also use weight in my cars to improve this, but not in this exessive way. In my opinion this is too much. I think it's important to find a good balance between performance and realstic movement. Because of the phisics a 1:10 scale car car not move like a real one without a big lack of performance. 😊😊
@@Matteomeier @Matteo's RC Movies yes, I agree, I am sure his cars do not perform very well in some difficult terrain, but it is very nice watching his slo mo videos! I will try and find a happy medium with my TRX 4. I would like the GCM full Defender interior in mine - and that is already some extra weight!
Be nice if you compaired the wheelbase and choice of bodies.
Some wheelbase possibilities on the CC-02 will be follow soon...
Thanks for a great comparison video my friend!!
Thank you! 👍😊
Another great Video Matteo! I have a cc01 that needs a new tub (previous owner chopped it up to put the steering servo at the front). Debating on fixing it or just parting it out. I kind of want a cc02 for the scale appearance!
Thanks! I would replace it by a new one! 👍😊😊
Excellent comparison!
Thanks! 👍😊
Should be long before tamiya starts releasing this chassis with all there classic crawler bodys?? Can't wait for the landrover.👍🏻 great video again.
Thanks! Sure, they will relesase more cars with this chassis! 😊
Schön und verständlich erklärte Vor - und Nachteile der beiden Plattformen. Danke dafür.
Sind denn die Innenkotflügel so dicht an der Karosserie, dass sie ein wirksames Eindringen von Wasser und Schmutz verhindern?
Vielen Dank! Nein die schliessen nicht so dicht ab, aber das Verschmutzen des Innenlebens wird trozdem deutlich reduziert. 👍👍😊😊
Before the design was worked against the impact , now the design is absorb the impact or avoid the impact. As you can see the plastic is more elastic. Still it is a good viedo presentation!
Yes, plastic is soft, good damping material... 👍😊 Thanks!
Biggest departure will be the hard body Jeep and others. Addition to the SAS is on point. Body wise, Tamiya missed a great RC by using lexan. Like axial or horizon. Getting rid of the best parts of RC from over 15 years ago or more is going to hurt the hobby more than we think. When it comes to kits, beadlocks and hard bodies are key. I'll never forget my RTR scx10 with beadlocks. I was sold on that alone. Can't stand the glue, but maybe the tires aren't that great? I'll be selling my ryft tires if anyone wants them
My CC01 Pajero just collects dust. I'm probably just going to sell it soon. My modern trail trucks and crawlers get all the use.
Good comparison Matteo, very informative. Enjoyed you video as always👍
Thank you so much Bullgear! Glad to hear that! 👍😊
Very nice comparison Matteo :)
I'm guessing the Hong Kong based RC companies will make some inner fenders and other things for the CC-02 soon
Thanks Aviano! Yes I think also they will make some special parts...👍😊😊
Thank you for good video!
Thanks for watching! 🙏
Great video, interesting comparison between the 01 and 02
Thank you! 😊
Very clear and helpful. Ciao Nanni
Thanks Nanni! 👍😊😊
A lot of up improvements on the new one. Thanks. 👍🏽🐒🇺🇸
Thanks to you! 👍😊
Thanks for the comparison! 👍
Thanks for your Feedback! 👍👍😊😊
Hi Matteo! Congratulations for all the great content on your channel! I really like your videos! As you have all of the models that I would like like to buy I wanted to ask your opinion on these. The cc01 Land Rover defender 90, the cc01 Toyota fj, or the cc02 Mercedes g500. Which one would you recommend? I’m a beginner so the difficulty on the painting is something I take into consideration. Thank you very much and keep the good work. Kind regards
Thanks for your nice words, I'm glad you like my videos! The painting of all these models have the same difficulty. I would recommend to go with the CC-02. 👍😊
Great video man! 👍👍👍
I gotta say tamiya’s cco2 Is a bit disappointing! Still all plastic, big hump hanging out of the bottom and solid axle should have been done yrs ago! I’m betting the thing even still has plastic bushing for a rig that cost $200+ I would expect more these days! So they can keep it! Sorry Tamiya but there is tons of better options out there for the same price!
At least the cc01 is unique! 😅
Thanks for your good feedback! I understand it completely...
Tamiya is kinda late to the party.... in a time where basicallly every crawler has solid axles an improved version of the cc01 with ifs would have caught my attention more so... sorry tamiya,..
A tip : you can watch movies on flixzone. Me and my gf have been using it for watching lots of of movies these days.
@Brantley Joaquin yea, I have been watching on Flixzone} for years myself =)
Hallo Matteo, Deine Videos sind großartig! Danke dafür.
Eine Frage, die Du sicherlich schon öfter beantwortet hast, kann ich gerade nicht bei Deinen Videos finden: Sperrst Du das Hinterraddifferential bei Deinen CC-01, wie Pajero oder Landfreeder? Wenn ja, wann? Dauerhaft?
Viele Grüße aus Berlin
Dirk
Hallo Dirk, ja die Hinterachse sperre ich immer dauerhaft. Die Teile dafür sind ja im Bausatz enthalten.
Teilweise sperre ich sogar die Vorderachse.
It's funny because they are totally different chassis I don't even know why tamiya even called the new one a CC02 because the CC01 has a independent front and the CC02 2 solid axles? Nice showcase Matteo!
Thanks Steve! Yes, some things at Tamiya are a bit hard to understand...🤷♂️🤷♂️
Very useful info! Thanks!
Cc01 front wheel’s wobbling is crazy... can never run in a straight line... but i will not invest any modifications on it. Run it slow and good for taking pictures! D90 looks a lot better than traxx defenders
Thanks for your feedback! 👍😊
Nice Explanation. What size of/type of Tires do you have on the CC-02? I was about to say oh, and they improoved the tires, until you mentioned they didnt.
Thanks! The tires are from MST, have nearly the same size but works much better. www.rc-mst.com/product_info.php?class_sn=3&class_sn2=108&sn=2636
Looking forward to my CC02 Build. I wasn’t a Fan of the CC01.
Yes, enjoy it! 👍👍😊😊
Hallo Matteo; wieder einmal ein tolles + informatives Video. Frage: Passt die Landrover Defender D90 Karo auch auf das CC-02 Chassis?
Vielen dank! Direkt passt sie nicht, man müsste den Radstand anpassen. Das sollte aber einfach möglich sein, werde mich nächstens der Thematik annehmen.
Super Matteo, ich freue mich schon darauf.
very very good idea , thanks a lot
Thanks Kaza! 👍😊
Und trotzdem mag ich das CC-01 Chassis mehr 😝. Es ist einfach unique. Leiterrahmen kann jeder. Passt die G500 Karo (Radstand)?
Radstände lassen sich ja anpassen, insofern sollte alles passen oder kann passend gemacht werden.
nice Matteo very good comparison
Thanks a lot Michael! 😊😊👍
I like how he says the Letter V
I built both. Cco2 gives the better performance. But landrover has the nostalgia
Yes, I agree. Best way is to put the Landrover on the CC-02... 👍👍😊
Looks like these chassis have different wheelbases. I know the CC-01 can be adjusted to short or long wheelbase by changing the attachment position of the rear links. Can the CC-02 be adjusted as well? I am particularly interested to know if the old Jeep Wrangler hard body can fit well on the CC-02 since the rigid axles would be a much better match.
Yes, CC-02 links can also be mounted in two positions to adjust the wheelbase. Will try this in one of my next videos.
Super like 😀👍
Thank you! 👍😊
Does de CC02 can works with Pajero model, the same model that you built with the CC01 chassis?, is so, is it a better option?
Yes, the Pajero can be used with the CC-02 chassis. The body mounting have to be self made, as best with magnetic holders. If it's the better choice for the Pajero depends what you like. In real, the Pajero have independent front suspension, same as the CC-01 chassis...
I see a lot of similarities to the CR-01 chassis.
In my opinion only the 4-link suspension.
I kinda wish that Tamiya kept IFS for the CC02, most new and new-ish 4x4s have IFS and it would be a nice for a scale look.
I'm not impressed :/
I think is good to have it booth. For older trucks is better to use the rigid axles, and for newer the IFS.
@@Matteomeier totally, if tamiya have made 2 versions of cc02 that would have been ace
Just get an Element RC Enduro. They make some with IFS. I have one of their IFS conversion kits on my SCX10 II.
Is there a way to mount the Pajero body from the cco1 to the cc02 in the same fashion it was originally mounted?
Not in the same fashion. It can be mounted for sure, but on another way.
I love the chassis, really. But the steering is horrible. The servo just shifts the chassis side to side over the axle. Why on earth didn't they use a panhard bar.
Yes, but important is the propper adjustment of the servo endpoints of the steering. So it works not bad and on the trails there is not a problem. 👍😊
Can the Defender body be purchased separately and fitted to the CC-02?
Yes, and it fits well on the CC02 👍😊
I love chanel you friend 😍😍
Nice adventure
Nice vidio
Good RC adventure
Good luck friend
Thanks so much! 👍👍😊😊
What tyres did you use please?
Tires from MST: www.rc-mst.com/product_info.php?class_sn=3&class_sn2=108&sn=2636
Does de CC02 can works with Pajero model, the same model that create with the CC01 chassis?, is so, is it a better option?
Isnt it possible to put the springs of the cc2 on the cc1?
No, the springs from the CC-02 are too big for the CC-01
Where did you buy the Defender body?
This is the CC-01 Defender from Tamiya. www.tamiya.com/english/products/58657/index.htm
are the cc-02 rims 1.9 inch? If not, what are they?
What is the best chassis of the two,cc-01 ore cc-02
Hi, can body d90 installed in cc02 chassis?
Yes, ua-cam.com/video/REq8mFU2zvM/v-deo.html
Chasis cc-02 can use at cc 01 pajero ..?
Yes
What tyres do you recommend for cc02 chassis?
The KM Crawler Tire from MST: www.rc-mst.com/product_info.php?class_sn=3&class_sn2=108&sn=2666
I just fixed my cco2 chassis. Waiting for the carbon steel propeller shaft. Ordered the wrong one.
Over all i still prefer the CC-01 model plus those can be ran with faster motors. I feel the CC-02 is only for super slow speeds.
Yes, depends what you prefer more...
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Geils änglisch, wiä immer😉
Thänks! Sorry für das Mundart- änglisch! 😂😂
Cool video,keep it up, put a like!!!!👍👍👍😉🤘
Thank you! 👍👍😊😊
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Спасибо за приятный комментарий! 👍👍😊😊
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