Victorian Gothic Style: 1800s Mourning vs. Modern Goth

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  • Опубліковано 11 жов 2018
  • A tribute to Victorian Gothic Style, comparing an 1800’s widow in traditional mourning dress with a modern interpretation of Victorian-inspired Gothic fashion.
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  • @TheNegatio
    @TheNegatio 5 років тому +1477

    I like victorian ladies being goth without even knowing it

    • @LiisaLadouceur
      @LiisaLadouceur  5 років тому +66

      O.G.

    • @QUEENOBSCURE
      @QUEENOBSCURE 5 років тому +54

      What I hate his Goths don't understand. This is where it came from, yet they say was music that inspired it. NO! IT PAINS ME!

    • @cosmicfaeriedust4009
      @cosmicfaeriedust4009 5 років тому +59

      ♚ QUEEN OF OBSCURE PAIRINGS ♚ the subculture came from the music

    • @mando2417
      @mando2417 5 років тому +32

      It is not because you wear goth style clothes that you are goth...

    • @rose-blossoms
      @rose-blossoms 4 роки тому +40

      they weren't goth, this was just their way of life. the subculture didn't exist back then.

  •  5 років тому +936

    Historic is better in my opinion

    •  5 років тому +3

      @Grunge Girl yasssss

    • @user-tx9eg4tc8o
      @user-tx9eg4tc8o 5 років тому

      Nu mă așteptam să dau de români pe aci

    •  5 років тому

      @@user-tx9eg4tc8o NICI EU

    • @anascarlet
      @anascarlet 5 років тому +11

      the dress is, but not the makeup 💁 or the hair

    • @QUEENOBSCURE
      @QUEENOBSCURE 5 років тому +9

      What I hate his Goths don't understand. This is where it came from, yet they say was music that inspired it. NO! IT PAINS ME!

  • @ladyE666
    @ladyE666 5 років тому +573

    I don't find the second outfit to be Victorian modern goth at all. It looks like more burlesque/ romantic goth, there are a lot more better Victorian modern goth dress out there than what has been showen here.

    • @nocturnal.visions
      @nocturnal.visions 5 років тому +3

      Take a look at my page to see ;) I agree with you

    • @as_4443
      @as_4443 5 років тому +4

      Like from beetle juice I’m not saying it three times

    • @christinash2235
      @christinash2235 4 роки тому +15

      That head piece is literally 1920s vamp Theda Bara. It kinda makes me mad how historically inaccurate this is. Theda wore sexy dresses and dark make up too. Everything but the pink hair. Pink hair didn't happen until the 1950s.

    • @sublimnalphish7232
      @sublimnalphish7232 4 роки тому +2

      Looks modern Victorian to me! High low overskirt parasol . it is pieces put together from the era .......black mourning attire...... Late Vic was a mourning period for the queen. Wear we get the look!

    • @amberhoward7807
      @amberhoward7807 4 роки тому +7

      People want to act like they are experts when if they only looked at the pieces individually they would see how it fits in the modern Victorian Goth section... And when it comes to Gothic style, many people still argue over things, so to me trying to be right about Gothic styles is just setting us all up for failure... We all have opinions on what we think. Goth has become an all over the board type of thing. So many boxes we want to put everything in..... It's kinda stupid. And when people want to act like know it alls about the fashion and especially the music, it gets annoying as all hell!

  • @facelessartist0603
    @facelessartist0603 4 роки тому +48

    The Victorian Mourning girl just lost her family.
    That flashy modern goth is what killed them.

  • @EveInTheMachine
    @EveInTheMachine 3 роки тому +14

    The historical dress is *gorgeous.*
    The historical Victorian Gothic style will always be my favorite. It's so refined and elegant, feminine yet powerful... I just wish I had the money to actually dress that way, lol.

  • @gyqz
    @gyqz 5 років тому +257

    Llike It's Black Friday
    said, the second one looks more like a bordello Victorian figure.
    She is very pretty, but the clothes are not really Victorian 'social life' adapted.....there are so many frocks and dresses out there that are modernized Victorian, that the bordello look was not necessary in my opinion.
    Great video once again, but it could have been better, if you compared 1800's Victorian social wear to 2000's adapted social wear.
    Anyway: thank you for your effort!

    • @miraculousmeli
      @miraculousmeli 4 роки тому +2

      You watch Black Friday? Me too!!

    • @enaxtry
      @enaxtry 4 роки тому +2

      the second one seems more like romantic goth to me

  • @nekobat1962
    @nekobat1962 5 років тому +91

    I love the traditional mourning dress better than the "modern" one. Perhaps it's my age, but while the other one looks good on some people, it isn't for everyone. I like Black Friday's take on it, as well as people I've seen on Gothic and Goth. I loved your other videos, but this one only had one interpretation of modern Victorian.

  • @MsRetteMich
    @MsRetteMich 5 років тому +65

    I would wear both

  • @gothicgrandma4559
    @gothicgrandma4559 4 роки тому +15

    Being a goth lady myself who absolutely adores steampunk Victorian I have to point out that we're not trying to completely recreate the look to the finest details. What we're trying to achieve is to put together a look that is emblematic of all the things that were finest in this era.

  • @aramintasnow8712
    @aramintasnow8712 5 років тому +251

    the second one looks more like romantic goth

    • @nocturnal.visions
      @nocturnal.visions 5 років тому +7

      all of that are the same I mean victorian romantic and vampire...just different ideology

    • @WitchKing-Of-Angmar
      @WitchKing-Of-Angmar 4 роки тому

      Lady Bellen
      Ya, same with architecture
      Queen Ann, Edwardian, Austere, 2nd empire Victorian
      *s a m e I d e o l o g y*

  • @cyberpunkgirl7907
    @cyberpunkgirl7907 4 роки тому +15

    Mary Shelley created the world masterpiece Frankenstein at 19 yrs-old.
    Women are Gothic in their very flesh, bone and soul.

  • @genetrosper5834
    @genetrosper5834 5 років тому +103

    Prefer the historical.

  • @erzsblasfantaven3334
    @erzsblasfantaven3334 5 років тому +30

    Happy October to everyone (the spookiest month)

  • @MissLizzy882
    @MissLizzy882 5 років тому +116

    Bit of a shame the 1860s inspired historical dress was supported by 18th century style paniers instead of a full crinoline, but otherwise, pretty fantastic job!! (I took my degree in historical costume so I tend to be really picky!!)

    • @LiisaLadouceur
      @LiisaLadouceur  5 років тому +14

      Thanks Lizzy. We like that kind of pickiness. Learning is good. For this look I think our stylist did an awesome job making an authentic look from the reproduction pieces we had avail to us. Glad you liked it!

    • @sc0ttishlass
      @sc0ttishlass 4 роки тому +1

      Yep, it looked like they used the paniers to get the early 1860s fluffiness and then added a big bow and waist bump to imitate the crinoline of the bustle. *rolls eyes*

  • @MaryMourning
    @MaryMourning 5 років тому +10

    What a beautiful corset shes wearing in the modern version! I love everything about her. well done Liisa!

  • @dukessadelacroix91
    @dukessadelacroix91 4 роки тому +2

    i am an Italian Victorian Goth and i absolutely dress with the old Victorian fashion design.Love it.

  • @rockykelley
    @rockykelley 4 роки тому

    I must say that I enjoyed the video and appreciate the work that went into it. Best regards

  • @katelynrisner
    @katelynrisner 5 років тому +2

    I'm absolutely in love with that first outfit

    • @gilbring6793
      @gilbring6793 4 роки тому

      Me too, i wish i knew where can I buy it

  • @anneliegiesbrecht1366
    @anneliegiesbrecht1366 4 місяці тому

    Love your videos. You're truly an awesome artist 🖤🤘🏻

  • @1015SaturdayNight
    @1015SaturdayNight 5 років тому +4

    DELIGHTFUL! That sheer corset is gorgeous, unfortunately at my age I need, ahem, a bit more coverage but wow that's beautiful!

  • @emmathorpe9379
    @emmathorpe9379 5 років тому

    Beautiful. Loved both looks! X

  • @erzsblasfantaven3334
    @erzsblasfantaven3334 5 років тому +11

    I hope we will also get a video where you explain the differences in words

  • @AndreasinThailand
    @AndreasinThailand 5 років тому

    awesome video as usual. love both looks. well done

  • @millennial_fairy
    @millennial_fairy 5 років тому

    Love these videos!

  • @demonicastar
    @demonicastar 4 роки тому

    Loved this, short but sweet

  • @freeandunexplained3011
    @freeandunexplained3011 5 років тому +3

    I really love all the Johnny Hollow that's been played in most of your videos 💜

    • @LiisaLadouceur
      @LiisaLadouceur  5 років тому +1

      Thanks. I'm a fan of their music and think it's the perfect fit!

  • @robinorear4307
    @robinorear4307 4 роки тому

    Such a lovely video and two beautiful ladies 💕💕💕. Keep up the great work! You've got a subscriber for life!

  • @TheBedGenie
    @TheBedGenie 4 роки тому

    I love this, it's very sweet. Very cool, well done x thank you x

  • @geminigrrl66
    @geminigrrl66 5 років тому +1

    I love and have worn both looks at various times. Though to be honest, the historic Victorian is my personal favorite. There's always been something about getting ready that just put me into the proper frame of mind. Another awesome video.

  • @brandonnajera44
    @brandonnajera44 5 років тому

    This is one of the highest quality fashion channels on youtube. Please more.

    • @LiisaLadouceur
      @LiisaLadouceur  5 років тому +2

      Thanks for the kind words! I try my best with a small but mighty team to create the highest productions we can.

  • @sarahhouston6560
    @sarahhouston6560 3 роки тому

    Love it!

  • @bugeanuflorin1531
    @bugeanuflorin1531 4 роки тому

    ABSOLUTELY, love Gothic Style, good time for you, thank you

  • @bexphillips5649
    @bexphillips5649 4 роки тому +2

    Dude tht see through corset!🖤🖤🖤

  • @annabowden3087
    @annabowden3087 5 років тому

    I love the tea party at the end it was so cute!

  • @tiffanytrippeer5401
    @tiffanytrippeer5401 4 роки тому

    Omg the first one - I love those boots!

  • @redrydab8335
    @redrydab8335 4 роки тому

    This was beautiful I loved it

  • @dawngrrrl
    @dawngrrrl 5 років тому +4

    Love this! Historical for sure 👍

  • @SincerestSawa
    @SincerestSawa 4 роки тому +1

    I personally prefer the historic but I really like how you presented them each and then together in the video in a mirror like fashion, very cool

  • @genniferkelly
    @genniferkelly 3 роки тому

    I hope you don't mind, Liisa
    I used to be gothic, not so much anymore, but still have love for it.
    Love the style and fashion, especially when it's Victorian.
    Simply gorgeous.
    Love your style, your gorgeous 🖤🖤🖤

  • @anjatoledo8078
    @anjatoledo8078 5 років тому +27

    Nice but looks unfinished .. the second is goth but not really victorian goth .. it's more like a show burlesque goth .. I'm a victorian goth and I wear both modern and older Type of style

  • @Devilllxdreams
    @Devilllxdreams 3 роки тому

    I really want that Victorian outfit! It looks so beautiful especially on the model! 🖤

  • @katelynrisner
    @katelynrisner 4 роки тому

    I'm absolutely in love with the first one.... Wish I could find a dress like that

  • @giovannibrito7
    @giovannibrito7 2 роки тому

    Very unique & elegance the black 🖤 match with everything!

  • @EliytresFlatterratz
    @EliytresFlatterratz 5 років тому +39

    The modern one look beautiful, but not Victorian to me. No Victorian blouse, the skirt is to short, no fascinator, etc. For me she looks like a romantic Goth and not historical inspired. Just my opinion. :)

  • @dylanakent
    @dylanakent 4 роки тому

    Both are beautiful!

  • @Mullaihaute
    @Mullaihaute 4 роки тому

    Both are amazing

  • @karenhudson3323
    @karenhudson3323 2 роки тому

    Brandi Joy looks very beautiful. Excellent video 😁♥️

  • @ameliearseneault7715
    @ameliearseneault7715 4 роки тому

    Those are magnificent!!!!

  • @Latiareni
    @Latiareni 5 років тому

    I love these

  • @user-ul4qi1pl8m
    @user-ul4qi1pl8m 5 років тому

    Soooo beautiful

  • @bobjazzman9038
    @bobjazzman9038 4 роки тому

    Both women looked great, but that lil smirk at 2:18 was something else

  • @nicorizzo5402
    @nicorizzo5402 3 роки тому

    They're both great but that second outfit is my JAM.

  • @estefaniadesireeperinisonn60
    @estefaniadesireeperinisonn60 4 роки тому

    Me encanta 😍

  • @veronicamadrigal1991
    @veronicamadrigal1991 5 років тому

    Awsome i love it 🖤🖤🖤.

  • @TheEmilymom
    @TheEmilymom 5 років тому +2

    Beautiful! ❤️🖤🌹🖤❤️

  • @BlackRose369.
    @BlackRose369. 4 роки тому +1

    I'm a boy
    I will buy a handmade tailcoat from around 1830 in black
    Still have to choose the fabric
    Can't wait

  • @SOLSITOSOLO
    @SOLSITOSOLO 5 років тому

    Great!!!!

  • @LunaLeViege
    @LunaLeViege 4 роки тому

    Love BOTH

  • @jisungsacorns2503
    @jisungsacorns2503 3 роки тому

    I honestly love them all

  • @nathohkipling797
    @nathohkipling797 3 роки тому

    Lavishing

  • @millennial_fairy
    @millennial_fairy 5 років тому

    The outfits too!

  • @joanneaderby2974
    @joanneaderby2974 4 роки тому +1

    I do both because it doesn't have to be one preference only!

  • @metalwolf1000
    @metalwolf1000 5 років тому +5

    Great work as always. Production values are top of the range, you and the team should be very proud!

  • @Ana-kg8mh
    @Ana-kg8mh 5 років тому

    Século 19 é definitivamente uma época que eu gostaria de ter vivido, os vestidos eram incríveis

  • @ScaryLadySarah
    @ScaryLadySarah 5 років тому +1

    So cute and well done. :)

  • @jemdemonbelle2097
    @jemdemonbelle2097 5 років тому

    I love both these looks and would rock both of them any day of the week XD.
    So badly want that parasol!!!!!!😻

  • @crazyshaman409
    @crazyshaman409 4 роки тому

    I love the victorian styl💕 I got my firs goth lolita set not long agou and love it💕💕💕💕

  • @christallaktorides6904
    @christallaktorides6904 Рік тому

    Beautiful ♥️👍

  • @ralfmachulla4012
    @ralfmachulla4012 4 роки тому

    Klasse, der moderne Stil.❤️

  • @celestialynx
    @celestialynx 5 років тому

    Historic is a pure magic, just wow!

  • @cherylchaison6363
    @cherylchaison6363 2 роки тому

    Since I was a little girl the victorian way of dress was always appealing and beautiful. Still is

  • @phoenix.horushipogrifokime4840
    @phoenix.horushipogrifokime4840 5 років тому

    Me encantó 👍

  • @CigaresBretagneBusinessClub
    @CigaresBretagneBusinessClub 5 років тому

    Nice video :-)

  • @GothBae
    @GothBae 3 роки тому

    when ur a mix of the two 🖤👌🏾

  • @cringeassgremlin4302
    @cringeassgremlin4302 4 роки тому

    I yesterday for the first time in my life saw an actual goth. Pretty cool experience

  • @silviadevrede8091
    @silviadevrede8091 4 роки тому

    Both so beautifull

  • @oblivious_prime
    @oblivious_prime 4 роки тому

    I want the jewelry from the first model. The clothes, not so much if they were made period-correct (the additives to make black crepe non-reflective and stiff were known to cause a lot of health problems)...

  • @sweet68pea
    @sweet68pea 5 років тому

    came over from its black Friday and subed

  • @WitchKing-Of-Angmar
    @WitchKing-Of-Angmar 4 роки тому

    1:37 personal, I love black lace and fringe and beautifully made black stockings with little bows at the tops attaching to her under garment to hold her stockings up. That lady could fit as a third party example tinging in the possible 1920s from a guess at stylistic wedding choices over the years.

  • @T4r4ntul4_b1t3ss
    @T4r4ntul4_b1t3ss Рік тому +1

    Black butler 😍

  • @jaicrawford9882
    @jaicrawford9882 4 роки тому

    I mix some of thw victorian ideas into my modern trad goth look :)

  • @thebrutus1107
    @thebrutus1107 5 років тому

    Where did they get this beautiful skirt for the modern goth? I want it D:

  • @_Spy_
    @_Spy_ 4 роки тому +1

    Both of them are absolutely beautiful but Historic Goth wins the race for me.

  • @Dianaandtheroses
    @Dianaandtheroses 4 роки тому

    I really like them both. It's really hard to decide

  • @cotyacevedo4073
    @cotyacevedo4073 4 роки тому

    Muy buenos diseños victoriana gótico

  • @jangotika7719
    @jangotika7719 4 роки тому +1

    🖤🖤🖤

  • @davidmurray5326
    @davidmurray5326 4 роки тому +2

    Love the 17th century and up to Victorian,, Alice in wonderland.

  • @creacionesmorcis
    @creacionesmorcis 3 роки тому

    Yo me vestía como el segundo look gothic romantic ayyyy que linda época 😍🌹

  • @timteston5679
    @timteston5679 5 років тому +1

    I want these dresses.😆😍

  • @ZachKateAda
    @ZachKateAda 4 роки тому

    I think I'm in love

  • @vrusimov
    @vrusimov Рік тому

    The initial dress is THE best.

  • @pureblood_straight_pride1853
    @pureblood_straight_pride1853 4 роки тому

    Both are beautiful but I have always been partial when it comes to history. That’s why my dresses were $600 or more when I went out. Always custom made to be exactly like the ones in Victorian times... Still have them hanging up in my closet even though I haven’t been to a goth club in years lol..

  • @carolbonnell6675
    @carolbonnell6675 4 роки тому

    I like the back then look.

  • @achillea3063
    @achillea3063 3 роки тому +1

    I prefer the historical. Because it's very elegant and simple

  • @Creativemoonbun
    @Creativemoonbun Рік тому

    0:43 the dress is so pretty

  • @ozvictoriaadventure
    @ozvictoriaadventure 4 роки тому

    Love both 👍🏻🍳

  • @makeupboss9812
    @makeupboss9812 4 роки тому

    I love the Victorian . But I love the smoked look & scarlet hair as well. When I think Victorian I think of Lucy Westenra from Bram Stoker’s Dracula

  • @video-kb6yq
    @video-kb6yq 4 роки тому

    Divinas

  • @moopycheyenne5998
    @moopycheyenne5998 4 роки тому

    The mourning dress was beautiful.

  • @donovandelaney3171
    @donovandelaney3171 3 роки тому +1

    The 1800's to 1900's was the last Dark Age. There was no Dark Age in the 1700's. There was a mini Dark Age during the 1800's to the 1900's.