A lot of these can only be performed by Marth and not Lucina, weak hits and tipper hitstun allow for some cool setups. If he had that along with fixed kills moves he'd be top tier easily.
I feel like for him to be top tier, he needs: - Sizeable cut on his aerial end lag - Better Combo potential with his Aerials - More stun with grounded moves (change his jab to smash 4 jab) - Stronger UpB that goes further.
@@FrenzyLight haha I miss his smash 4 jab, not only for the fact it could be canceled, but the fact that the tipper range had so much stun and reach. I agree with you on your statements, even with attack canceling and IDJ, the frames and stun doesn't permit for consistent combos even though they might work in theory without DI. But I've managed, better than lucina, in the combo department for sure. Building up damage was never an issue for me, killing however, is... so many times where I'm pixel perfectly spaced for a DB4 or smash attack, only to still get the sour spot in the end.
There’s an over 50% combo with staling that I’ve found only works with Marth. You have to hit falling nair and get the two hit timing but it is nair, sh nair, ff, u tilt, up air. You have to kind of chase the opponent to get the up tilt to hit but it’s training mode true.
I'm pretty sure most if not all of these combos could be done before the buff. That aside yeah Marth is so fun. I was always confused as to why people called him trash when he's fun and just needs practice to play. Sweet video
@@matthewmea3566 Leo doesn't do Dancing Blade combos, he does Dancing Blade 1, Dancing Blade Up 2, and Dancing Blade Up 3, and then he waits for the opponent to mash an option, usually air dodge, and then he punishes with Up Smash.
@@WarrenValion that is one thing he does, but I have seen him do dancing blade 1 to falling nair to f smash but it was an older clip so maybe he doesnt do it anymore.
There's this other Marth exclusive true kill confirm at around 95% for most characters where you land with sour uair, do a perfectly timed full hop and double jump (Not IDJ), and then hit the strong up b. You can react to DI as well but if they DI in it will kill off the top and if they DI out then the side. The Marth community has dubbed it, "Rend Heaven.". Also, IDJ did wonders for the Marth based characters. You can now just loop falling aerials into IDJ aerials over and over!
@@atari_hmb No. Aerial DB1 is negative on hit for all characters. You can still use it though because of how quick it is and how little hitlag it has, but you should only go for it as a mixup. If your too predictable, then you’ll get punished for landing it.
Marth is always a pleasure to see. I wish they never redesigned how marth worked after brawl. I miss melee marth adn big fair and dairs and all the fun things you could do with marth in melee and brawl.
I just picked up Marth a while ago because I used to main Lucina- and YES the tipper sound is really REALLY satisfying Edit: I'm kinda sad there were no nair-1 kill confirms but still, great video :D
@@Patrick-bn5rp when the opponent is at high percent, marth can hit a down-tilt, which sends the opponent into a tech situation, and if they don’t tech, marth can do an up-tilt. Since the tipper hitbox was buffed, you can hit it in this situation, and since it’s stronger, it’ll kill earlier too, around 110-120 on most of the roster
Will you do a separate video on Lucina's combos? Even though Lucina generally uses the same moves as Marth for her combos, her combo game is actually quite different from Marth's because of the way her sword attacks work.
0:42 Up-Smash has two hits, one on the sides of Marth, then the main hit, the side hits are to get them to the second hit, which is the strong hit, so IDK if this actually true or not.
This is true, but I would not go for it at this percent because of how close your opponent still is, and you’ve staled a kill move. At around 30-45% with tipper Uair you can connect tipper Usmash(possibility of killing), and at around 40-60% you can connect sour Uair to tipper Usmash (kills)
I wonder why most of these beginners into godlike never have stale moves on. Most of those combos really cant be true because of the amount of extra damage and knockback with it on
As a marth main this was a total surprise to see, keep making more godlike combos man.
Marth mains RISE!
Just main lucina
W pfp
@@TheWildCard2k no
Marf
the rising side b to uair is so clean
they can always air dodge out though
it's
not true
Looks nice but is not worth going for it, you can get hard punished by that
A lot of these can only be performed by Marth and not Lucina, weak hits and tipper hitstun allow for some cool setups. If he had that along with fixed kills moves he'd be top tier easily.
I feel like for him to be top tier, he needs:
- Sizeable cut on his aerial end lag
- Better Combo potential with his Aerials
- More stun with grounded moves (change his jab to smash 4 jab)
- Stronger UpB that goes further.
@@FrenzyLight haha I miss his smash 4 jab, not only for the fact it could be canceled, but the fact that the tipper range had so much stun and reach. I agree with you on your statements, even with attack canceling and IDJ, the frames and stun doesn't permit for consistent combos even though they might work in theory without DI.
But I've managed, better than lucina, in the combo department for sure. Building up damage was never an issue for me, killing however, is... so many times where I'm pixel perfectly spaced for a DB4 or smash attack, only to still get the sour spot in the end.
@@FrenzyLight Forget top tier, this would make him Top 1 Lmao
@@FrenzyLight the up b buff might be going a little far haha
@@bronywnm4742 hahaha what about ourv friend Ike?
Marth is the best sword character to watch for the sound alone. Thanks for reminding me of that Frenzy :)
Roy makes similar sounds doesnt he
No problem :P
@@aethersome Similar but Marth's are more satisfying because they're so hard to land and personal preference.
@@andymcclurg9916 Agreed, plus I think tippers (or maybe just some tippers) are stronger than Roy hilts.
@@FrenzyLight is it possible to do the same video again but with Lucina this time? I honestly need to master the basics.
I hate hearing that sound whenever MARTH'S tippers land. It makes me jealous.
ok but dont you think its satisfying when our 4.8 damage up air makes the hit it 5 times in a row sound
There’s an over 50% combo with staling that I’ve found only works with Marth. You have to hit falling nair and get the two hit timing but it is nair, sh nair, ff, u tilt, up air. You have to kind of chase the opponent to get the up tilt to hit but it’s training mode true.
Every combo in this game starts with a landing arial
ok bro hold up, db1>uair is NOT true, what are you talking about
I'm pretty sure most if not all of these combos could be done before the buff. That aside yeah Marth is so fun. I was always confused as to why people called him trash when he's fun and just needs practice to play. Sweet video
Not really, landing tipper up air was hard to get on characters that weren't big bodies, it's funny cause now sour spot up air is kinda hard to get.
@@-FraudIdk man before all the buffs getting tippers was like breathing. Like I said,it just took practice
Any Non-ender of Dancing Blade is negative on hit and so any combos out of it are completely untrue.
yeah whenever I try it people always escape. idk how mkleo does it.
@@matthewmea3566 Leo doesn't do Dancing Blade combos, he does Dancing Blade 1, Dancing Blade Up 2, and Dancing Blade Up 3, and then he waits for the opponent to mash an option, usually air dodge, and then he punishes with Up Smash.
@@WarrenValion that is one thing he does, but I have seen him do dancing blade 1 to falling nair to f smash but it was an older clip so maybe he doesnt do it anymore.
@@matthewmea3566 Everything is true if you don't do anything about it.
@@WarrenValion yep. some untrue things are good to go for anyway if it's hard to anticipate like tech chase setups and footstooling.
I don’t think I saw this mentioned, but Marth also has reverse up tilt -> f-smash
4:10 is that a ken combo I see 👀
4:06 I'm still wondering how that fsmash tipper even connected
that's how the tipper works
That was the first frame of F-Smash which has a large section that is just entirely the tipper hitbox.
I nearly shed a tear because it's so inspirational.
There's this other Marth exclusive true kill confirm at around 95% for most characters where you land with sour uair, do a perfectly timed full hop and double jump (Not IDJ), and then hit the strong up b. You can react to DI as well but if they DI in it will kill off the top and if they DI out then the side. The Marth community has dubbed it, "Rend Heaven.". Also, IDJ did wonders for the Marth based characters. You can now just loop falling aerials into IDJ aerials over and over!
Wow that was extremely poggers
While these videos are cool, a lot of them are filled with so much misinfo on what’s true or not
No rising side b stuff is true lmfao
Depends on the character and percent.
@@atari_hmb No. Aerial DB1 is negative on hit for all characters. You can still use it though because of how quick it is and how little hitlag it has, but you should only go for it as a mixup. If your too predictable, then you’ll get punished for landing it.
Marth is always a pleasure to see. I wish they never redesigned how marth worked after brawl. I miss melee marth adn big fair and dairs and all the fun things you could do with marth in melee and brawl.
Wow I didn’t know marth had combos this good! Thanks Frenzy Light!
Literally just looked up the bread and butter for marth yesterday. Frenzy is a god.
Now to lab out exclusively the godlike combos regardless of tournament viability!
Omg I've waited so long! Thank you!!!!
Im also a marth main, i am going to keep this on my watch later for more practice on combos
I love the sound of when I get a tipper with marth
I was trying to put Marth on elite smash, but I’m trash because I don’t know ani combo, thanks for the new video ;)
The marth tipper asmr in this video is truthfully amazing
Watching this video with headphones is so damn pleasant 0_0
Damn these are beautiful my guy 🔥
hearing the tipper sound always makes me smile
bro you forgot the ultimate godlike combo which is falling nair to final smash, it kills intantly
I love rising side b --> up air combos
Beautiful
Really beautiful to see !! I love these combos x)
if we're being honest, getting the all-tipper forward dancing blade alone should be in "pro" lol
thanks for the new asmr video. enjoyed it a lot.
Frenzy is pro at every character ngl
I just picked up Marth a while ago because I used to main Lucina- and YES the tipper sound is really REALLY satisfying
Edit: I'm kinda sad there were no nair-1 kill confirms but still, great video :D
Falling up air, to fast fall nair( make sure to get both hits) into forward tilt is an easy true 40 percent
Forward smash can work till but on bigger characters too, but is inconsistent or not true on others
@@cosmicrefractions2834 Rising Nair F-Smash is true on DI in
really useful as want to start playing marth
Bouta do all these and make my friends who are casuals at the game think im a god 😎
Too bad none of the combos that use dancing blade are actually true
Even tho some are not true still very worth learning
People forget Marty can bring the heat
"sit down silly boy" combo reminds me of melee lol.
This just shows me how little I actually know about Marth XD
I always come back here when my sword goes through their legs for like, the eighth time during a kill setup to desalt, thanks
where was this before i grinded marth into elite smash yesterday
Disclaimer: most of the big combos you see, especially the pros and godlikes, are *strings*, not combos
Great vid man
He also has dtilt to tipper upsmash now, great kill confirm
Wat? What do you mean?
@@Patrick-bn5rp when the opponent is at high percent, marth can hit a down-tilt, which sends the opponent into a tech situation, and if they don’t tech, marth can do an up-tilt. Since the tipper hitbox was buffed, you can hit it in this situation, and since it’s stronger, it’ll kill earlier too, around 110-120 on most of the roster
@@musicalmoongirl5055 Oh, that's what you mean. People always tech my down tilts for some reason. :(
Lol.wooow. These were so redicullous, I actually laughed watching the video lol. I didn’t know Marty had this much potential.
Wow.
What about sheik’s kill confirm set up bread and butter video please. You make Marth look like he has a constantly changing meta
The side-b combos aren't true, but those rising nair combos look useful
Will you do a separate video on Lucina's combos? Even though Lucina generally uses the same moves as Marth for her combos, her combo game is actually quite different from Marth's because of the way her sword attacks work.
He might, but I could see why he wouldn't, she mainly just has less combos than Marth, the sour spot helps him with combos
0:42 Up-Smash has two hits, one on the sides of Marth, then the main hit, the side hits are to get them to the second hit, which is the strong hit, so IDK if this actually true or not.
This is true, but I would not go for it at this percent because of how close your opponent still is, and you’ve staled a kill move. At around 30-45% with tipper Uair you can connect tipper Usmash(possibility of killing), and at around 40-60% you can connect sour Uair to tipper Usmash (kills)
THANKYOU. LOVE LOVE LOVE
Ayyy ma boi marth
should show the controller buttons!! Sick video all in all 🙏
Marth the Murderer would be a fitting nickname. Anyone agree?
Just gonna say this now don’t do fair to up b
That measly 23 % will be returned to you tenfold
He does realise all the rising side b stuff isnt true. I could be wrong, did it get buffed?
No the rising side b still doesn’t work
Do someone know what’s the name of the music at the end. I really liked it
Mom come Pick me up im scared...if i ever fight a Truly Marth Main not only i will repected it...i will fear them with all my hearth
Is lucina next?
As a Marth main
HOLY FUCKING SHIT
Could u do a post patch nerfed palu one?
Falling up air to up smash isn’t true. It only says 2 hits because up smash hits twice in this situation
I wish it showed the button combos for a total noob like me
Lu-Lu-Lucina please 🥺
These pretty much apply to her too my friend
@@FrenzyLight yus
2:01 YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESIR
I love my twinky sword boy.
OOH YESSIR
Marth>>>>Lucina
3:17 yessir
Outro music pls and it Was à pretty cool vidéo !!!
I’m with you bro! That beat slaps and I could not find it with Shazam! I need that!
We gonna find it my guy thank s
I'm trying to be a Marth main and I'm so trash i can't even do any of the intermediate combos X_X
*happy noises*
Updated Palutena plz
Holy shit I wanna pick up Marth
side b does not combo into anything. it's -19 on hit lmao
It may combo into up air if the opponent lands right when the hitstun ends, adding extra lag
@@Agerzzs it's -19 on hit, landing lag isn't going to last that long. I don't know why frenzy thinks it's true lmfao
where do you find frame advantage on hit again?
@valy0f it only shows frame advantage on shield tho
I wonder why most of these beginners into godlike never have stale moves on. Most of those combos really cant be true because of the amount of extra damage and knockback with it on
Please add inputs somehow
謝謝！
Thank you so much! 非常感謝你
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Was that last godlike one true because it didn't look true??
How many characters do you have in elite smash lol
Sit down silly boy 😂
Neat
Marth sword is beautiful.
1:35 instead of dash attack use pivot Forward tilt it's better
tipper.mp3
As is so pro to godlike i would go even more crazy than roy by the way
Does frenzy reply to comments?
Always
@@FrenzyLight W
Are all these good for Lucina too?
these are good combos although it doesnt work on high like 90%
Are the "landing up air is insane" combos true?
No
Why do you bother labbing footstool concepts when aerial footstools can be teched?
GODLIKEは凄すぎて真似できないよ笑
i posted a recent clip of a marth combo that you can perform and it’s pretty effective i think it’s true lol
Update Joker!
Since when was anything after db1 true 🤨 like it works but to say that it's true is wrong I'm pretty sure
Did you made these?
yes (:
@@FrenzyLight impressive how you get those with all characters. Mad respect bro