Aside from Bugged Roxas, two other secret bosses nobody talks about are the Anti fights from 358/2. In Mission Mode, Anti/Heartless versions of Saix and Riku can be fought, replacing their original fights from the base game, and they’re a good deal harder than their counterparts.
I remember those anti fights. I always loved beating up Saix in the story so fighting an anti form was nice to. Sad I rarely see anyone fight them on here
The secret boss that always sticks with me is Phantom from the original game. That thing actually caused me physical pain. The night after I discovered him, I had a nightmare where he was floating outside my room carrying a huge scythe. He doesn't have one in game, of course, though maybe he should. Anyway, in the nightmare, Phantom slashed me through the stomach with his scythe. The entire next day, I had intense psychosomatic stomach pains.
My 9 year old self came across this when I learned of the secret ending when turning all Dalmatians in. Seeing as back then, there was much to look up online, I used the game guide I got with it as well, and when I went back for the chest at the clock tower, I was met with this boss, which made little me give up on the ending until years later
For the avatar menu I remember if you just left it idle for many hours, eventually balloons would spawn on their own. That was how I did it years ago. Getting to floor 100 was like a week long process. This video brings back memories. I haven't thought about these fights in a long time. It also reminds me how much of a nightmare the secret ending was to unlock. You had to get most of the in game trophies.
I did that to try and get the dalmatians. Went from about 17 to 70 after a long time of the DS staying idle and checking it at least before bed... Then one day I turned the game off to do something else and found out that it didn't automatically save after balloons, so lost all those dogs and avatar parts, and never started the game since.
I litrally looked at the comments just to see if someone posted this. I would have my ds out on tag mode all day to collect random spawn balloons as no one I knew played. I think I timed it to be about every 15 mins to half an hour a balloon would spawn
I have this game, but the only thing I remember was reaching the area where I was able to fight alongside Cloud... I got my ass handed to me SO BADLY, I gave up on it completely. Haven't touched this game out of frustration for a good 5 years.
Fun fact: I feared the Eliminator so much as a kid that he gave me nightmares about his encounter. and the system sector battle theme gives me PTSD thanks to him.
Data Riku in Re:Coded. Floor 100 in the Avatar Menu. Bought a separate copy and a separate DS to experience it. 6 hours to progress to the 100th in one go😂. A lot of people know about the Data Roxas Fight, but not about the Data Riku fight locked behind the Avatar Menu.
Yeah the Data Roxas fight seemed like something any completionist would come across. Probably never talked about cause very few people played Re:coded relative to the other games. Though I just about expected the Data Riku fight's unlock condition to be something near impossible to do if you live in the US. "Streetpass" stuff. Fortunately The world ends with you took the fact that we live metric miles away from the next living person, let alone who has the same game as us and made it far easier to farm the required pin XP solo so you could still 100% the game. Just took a lot of waiting and AFKing but those UFOs that give you the streetpass pin XP gives you 100 in the US version, which easiliy levels up most pins with that method (Japan's version only got 20 per UFO and the UFOs were significantly rarer).
If you think getting the Streetpass to work in the US is bad, imagine being in Europe lmao They also did think ahead with Recoded though! If you have your console in sleep mode while Tag Mode is open, the game will generate a couple of random floors for you after a few hours - with patience, you can fill out the entire 100 floors with only one console and one copy!
I’m a massive ff15 fan and i delved deep into versus 13 before playing kh3. Seeing yozora in toybox then again in the secret ending had peaked my intrigue and god loading into yozora and instantly getting bodied left me speechless. His fighting style , cinematics and dms ooze a new beginning for the next saga. The cherry on the top was Yokos ost. A secret boss I hold dear to my heart and will never forget
I did remember fighting Debugged Data Roxas years ago as beating him and that System Sector with enough SP was the only way to get the Ultima Weapon in this game. But I have no idea how anyone was able to find Debugged Data Riku casually since it was locked behind a non-StreetPass mode. They both looked incredibly hard, but it might’ve been a bit more manageable when you’re at the proper level.
it was actually pretty easy, you just needed to go into the mode, where you could connect with other, wait a while and after some time randomly generated avatars would appear and give you access to the data sector
There's 100 floors, and you automatically get a "boss floor" every 10, so you really only need to get 90 floors. With that being said, the preset balloons appear from ANY DS signal. this includes wireless modes from other games, gamestop demos, and wii ds demo download channel. It only works once per signal, which means you'll have to stop sending demo signal, or just exit and re-enter multiplayer mode on your other ds game. Odds are you don't have control over gamestop demos, so sucks to be you. but the wii ds demo downloads channel was free and unlimited use. And when you run out of preset balloons, you can actually get fully randomized "pity balloons" that show up just from having the balloons screen up long enough. all the preset avatars have pre-determined accessories, floors, quotes, names, and challenges. but the pity balloons give you completely random results, and the game will never stop giving them to you, but they are super slow.
There was a way to cheese it. Of you have a second DS and any other game with wireless connectivity(I used a madagascar game I think), Re:coded will mistakingly pick it up.(Because this obviously does not yield any valid data, Re:coded instead generates one of the random floors mentioned above). You cannot do it infinitely in a row because there seemes to be a connectivity cap in the game, but it is enough to help reach floor 100 semi-easily.
I remember playing this as a kid just watching him have this challenge makes me feel valid I think that's also how you unlock the old last keyblade in the game but you have to get everything perfect
Actually, I found a totally different method to unlock Data Riku when I was revisiting the game a couple years ago! I love this game - it was my first Kingdom Hearts game, actually - and after beating Data Roxas (which was a bit easier knowing Main Roxas' attack patterns and all the data effects - red data Roxas was terrifying with context), I wanted to try and complete my 100 floor sector. What I discovered online? If I left my 3DS on the "waiting for a balloon" screen for about *two hours*, a randomly-generated balloon appears! No other person needed. It took weeks and weeks of afk-ing my 3DS and bringing it to school to get the AI-generated characters necessary, but I did eventually get to fight Data Riku! I had an advantage with the Ultima, but it was still an incredibly fun challenge.
The true final boss that nobody talks about: Defeating Anti-Debug Tetsuya Nomura. How to unlock this: Dive into Tetsuya Nomura's heart, through the use of an IRL Keyblade. You're not a true Keyblade Master, until you've defeated it.
I beat Data Roxas but never knew about Data Riku since I didn’t know anyone else that had the game. Re: Coded was ahead of its time imo. It had fun challenges like this and multiple different gameplay styles for the worlds that kept me on my toes
Dude that command deck the save file gave you was criminally not suited to beating those floors Having triple pursuit, judgment triad, eruption, etc. would've helped a ton
Ill give it to ya, ive been a fan of the game since the day it came out,played most of the games over and over, but this was the only kingdom hearts game i skipped. And now i must play it on my pc, and also yes i have never heard of these bosses. Well done brother
didn't realize both of these were secret bosses and i just ran thru them all when i first had the game. luckily i had brothers who played their own versions so we were all able to just change the avatar menu but i was also able to bring my DS around and got the balloons thru that so i never thought it was anything unusual.
I remember doing this. Had to switch to the Oblivion keyblade and make use of that auto-block combined with the all-round block accessory to get by. It's insanely useful against Bugged Riku's dark aura attack.
So, the thing with the NFC connection is that you weren't connecting to your Days DS, but that after a while, random characters would pop up. This was by design for those that may not have friends with the game to pass by, so you could still get Avatar Parts and dungeon floors even by yourself.
I certainly didn't know about these fights. Might replay-recoded for debugged roxas, but I'm not even gonna attempt that 100 floor stuff. Though the technology behind it is crazy.
Fun fact: the avatar mode has a feature where if you wait I believe roughly 5 to 10 minutes, the balloon will spawn for those who couldn't find anyone with a copy. It was how I got my 100 floors, I fought debug Roxas and debug Riku, Riku was easier than Roxas. Honestly Re:coded was my favorite game for a really long time, the 50 floors in Olympus was super fun, I remember being so close to getting every trophy, but that last thing I needed was a singular command, but before I could ever unlock that command, both my DSi and copy of the game stopped working, and now tragically the copy sits in the DS holder for memories sake. So many memories, almost like a Chain of memories
When the game came out I unlocked several floors since you can also get the Square Enix avatars by connecting to a Wii but I ran into the problem you did where I got them all so I had no idea floor 100 had a secret boss. Since I stopped getting balloons I thought I had everything so great find and dedication!
@@novateel6037 I don't have the systems nearby to test, but i think there was an option in the Mii Channel to connect to a DS locally and it would act like in the video where a Square Enix avatar would be sent
@@novateel6037 The wii had an app on it i think was called the Nintendo channel where trailers and commercials for then upcoming games would be posted, the channel also had DLC for certain DS games available so im assuming thats how he did it
My favorite, is the one in days where one mission in twilight town you have to defeat 6 separate giant heartless and before leaving for the castle, a final even tougher boss pops up, the dustflier. This thing was tough especially taking into account the fact you have to take down the other six enemies before even unlocking it. It was tough but fun.
Dustflier is a boss that I still refer to, to this day, as 'if Kingdom Hearts had made a The Floor is Lava difficulty.' Iirc I was doing it on Proud at the time (I don't think Critical was a thing in Days) and hoo boy that dude. He isn't hard. Just time consuming, because of how his attacks worked (the shockwaves and the fireballs) and how nuts his defense was. I recall jacking my crit chance up as high as it could go and using a weapon that hit as many times in a short span as I could to give me as many crit procs as possible since crits ignore defense.
This is the most entertaining Kingdom Hearts video I've ever seen. I am so sorry that many a time I laughed at your pain and suffering. I think once I'm finished this video I'm going to see what other videos you have! :D (busting a gut over here! omgggg)
With the Eliminator, whenever they showed up during my first playthrough when I was... I wanna say 12? I was friggin terrified. They followed you from room to room, dealt way too much damage, and I could never beat them.
The Bugged bosses are a nightmare to reach and defeat. This is made even harder if you try to complete the wager challenges each floor offers. I think I spent days, maybe week just grinding to level 100, experimenting with different commands. I remember using Triple Pursuit and Judgment Triad a lot.
Why is my head canon with Debugged Data Roxas is that’s what you get when you mix Roxas and Zion’s data into one boss? Props to you man for even getting to the Debugged Data Riku tho definitely takes the cake for hardest Riku fight ever
I played Kingdom Hearts Re:coded when I was younger and loved it for the fun game mechanics. I was really upset when they turned it into a cutscene movie for the remix.
Out the many secret bosses in the series I think the most out there one was Julius. Not only he’s a reference to a short that Disney tries to shove under the rug but it’s the only way to get the Ultima Weapon in Dream Drop Distance.
Man, I remember doing this way back when Re:Coded came out and having that same exact situation with the corrupted Wizard. Absolute nightmare of a challenge.
I know this is meant to be about the secret Roxas/Riku fights but man, I can't get enough of the Eliminator segments lmao, they truly encapsulate the Recoded experience.
I went against the debugged riki and roxas it was a challenge but I was lucky I had 6 friends that were a huge KH fans and we always brought our DS's to lunch in school. We all got to the fights just by us being around each other and always changing our avatars once we got new features. Seeing all this footage just took me back to being a teenager and talking boss strategies in between classes and lunch. Thank you for that.
I had a feeling I knew what bosses you were talking about, but I didn't realize Re:Coded didn't sell that well. I owned, played, and beat the DS version, and though I knew about these bosses, I never faced them because I could never get enough floors with the Street Pass system, because you had to sit there, keeping an eye on it to pop the balloons as they came, you couldn't just leave it be. EDIT: Nevermind, I didn't know about that special debug sector, I thought it was the bugged Data Riku and Bugged Data Roxas you get from doing 50 floors and 100 floors respectively for the Street Pass.
I had no idea these two bosses were that secret. I learned right away that you want to have Oathkeeper equipped when going up against enemies who love inflicting status ailments on you. You can survive Eliminators MUCH easier that way.
This was literally enjoyable to watch lmao! Suffering is content but the fact you forgot about mysterious figure is the icing on the cake because THAT DUNGEON WAS LITERALLY MADE BY THE SAME PEOPLE WHO CODED(lol pun intended) MYSTERIOUS FIGURE! That's why the end game dungeon in coded was so fun for many of us ha ha! Anyways, love your content! Gonna sub and like
I made all of the HP 1 HP. It's one of the adjustments you can do and I killed everything in one hit, but if I remember right it didn't work on the debugged Roxas, so I just equipped a bunch of elixirs and then used my limit over and over.
"no one knows about" me, apparently the one re:coded defender in the entire fandom: lol (i say that but i don't think i've ever bothered with avatar menu, i just know it exists)
found you while I was at work, been watching your kh videos to pass the time. As someone who played Re:coded on the ds, I lucked out, I spent almost a week riding the transit bus in portland to different parts of town. It was a slog, and riku and roxas took forever because my ds would start to overheat in the busier parts of games
4:57 Ah yes, that is the Eliminator. Skyward comparing it to the Persona Grim Reaper is very apt…mostly; while I know the GR appears from hanging around too long on one Tartarus/Mementos floor, I’m not entirely certain what summons the Eliminator, I think he might be scripted to show up in certain rooms when a floor is fully cleared. Still, super tough, causes all the status effects, you’re meant to just run…but like the Reaper, it’s so satisfying to take him down.
I knew about these. I actually liked Re:Coded and put a lot of hours into it. I found for the harder areas sometimes putting on the 1 HP setting actually helped getting to the bosses, I think I remember it working on the Eliminators. For the first, I lost at the final phase and had to give up. The second one, I used my brother's copy and DS to cheese getting to it, and actually beat it.
I thought we were going to talk about the Dustflier from Days, and that not a single person online seemed to have figured out that using shadows to proc static on it to delete a whole bar of health was a thing.
@lawrenceriverside6659 The elemental spells proc debuffs on enemies in Days, like burning and frozen. The one from thunder causes enemies to be surrounded with static, and on colision with another enemy, they both take 10%hp damage. The duskflier is immune to all of these statuses, but if the shadows that accompany it are hit with thunder, get the status, and then touch his tail, he loses like 10% of his hp which in that fight is WAAAY more damage than anything else can do.
@@OrbitalPulsar ok first: i forgot about the status ailments, that was so cool. Second: holy crap that's the best strategy i've ever heard, whoever came up with that is a genius
I don't think I ever knew about that secret area with debugged Roxas, and I certainly didn't know about the avatar stuff! Loved played this game as a kid, so thank you!
I'm glad to see others discovering these fights. So far I've not missed a single secret fight except any possibly in union cross as I didn't play that. They're all hard and fun and so satisfying when you get it.
I remember stumbling upon Bugged Roxas when I was younger, didn't have much issue either so I imagine I either cheesed him or was closer to the recommended level, either way Re:Coded goes real nuts and while the story isn't great the game itself is amazing for the most part
I definitely remember trying to beat Bugged Roxas (Even with an action replay I couldn't do it) and I vaguely remember fighting Bugged Riku somehow too, but still could never beat either. May be time to bust the ol Ds out and try again!
So as someone who's obtained Ultima Weapon which requires beating all 13 floors wagering all you SP and not dieing once, this was hilarious, especially your reaction to the eliminator. Judgement Triad is the best command deck ability in the game, and also you definitely should've either equipped some charms that stop statuses, or use Oathkeeper as it protects you from all status conditions with Undo at an overclock level 1, meaning you could equip other pieces of equipment. And the yellow bugs suck to deal with lmao. Especially the Wizards Re:Coded has like 5% story 95% nothing, but its combat is amazing. Also its very confusing from the perspective of somebody who started by playing Re:Coded. Guess seeing disney characters at a Walmart or Target or something caught my eye as a kid, and i wish I still had my copy. Still need to beat the F100 boss tho someday, never focused for long enough to set it up EDIT I DID IT A FEW DAYS AGO, TIP GET BOTH A DEFAULT AND 2ND COPY AVATAR EVERYTIME VIA USING 3 SYSTEMS, SAVES A LOT OF TIME. Also the boss isn't that hard if you have a bunch of Judgement Triads and Oathkeeper Equipped with near max stats. Judgement Triad is that insane (also you need Cures obviously). Now I'm getting ready to do all 100 Floors in one run, yes im serious. If you want to get every trophy in Re:Coded, you need to get D-Blizzaga which requires having a huge amount of SP, let alone the fact that you unlock buying it by beating Data-Riku once. And if you die or fail the objective ONCE YOU RESTART
I totally forgot about those Monster Octopus custom avatars in Re: Coded. I remember having a blast exchanging avatars with my friends back in high school!
Re:Coded is my favourite handheld game out of the bunch and it’s sad it wasn’t re.. remastered for HD remasters. This system sector was definitely a challenge and was content on obtaining the Ultima Weapon and other rewards after completing all challenges in one go without death. The Re:Coded Ultima Weapon is still the worst keyblade of all time but I’m glad I got to obtain everything in it. Now Bugged System Riku.. I haven’t even gotten all floors and barely there.. I may need to grind for floors one day.
This was a fun trip down memory lane with playing recoded back on my DS lite. that Debug data roxas fight was insane and required alot of youtube guides and game faqs, but the moment i saw that snake like one that you had to hit its head while getting stunned by its shock block body brought back memories! I should boot it up sometime!
I played the fuck out of re:coded and did all this stuff. I'm pretty sure that there were automatic balloons that popped up if you waited long enough. It took me so long as a kid. This game was honestly a treasure for me as a kid with how much hidden stuff there was. This vid unlocked so many memories for me honestly.
KH2 sephiroth is my all time favorite boss battle in games I think. KH series has tons of great secret bosses but kh2 sephi takes the cake. kh2 data battles are also some favs. crit mode and data battles really got me to learn KH2's battle system beyond mashing X. in other words I got good lmaoo still havent beat lingering will :') I refuse to just cheese the fight until i manage to beat it "fairly"
Re:Coded is my favorite KH game! It's deserves all the love from the world and it's a crime that only the cutscene are in the collection and I love the skilltree from the keyblades
I knew of one secret heartless shield boss you have to run away from in the multiplayer challenge version of the game, but one that is coming up recently that I never ran into, and thankfully never will since I lost my copy of the game, but apparently you fight a tougher data fight against Roxas?
GOD you did not have to remind me of the hell and suffering I went through to get the Ultima Weapon in KHR:C, OOOOOF bro I remember it being really tough too. And you made your attempt underleveled too - that's crazy bro. I can't imagine being a kingdom hearts runner doing anything CLOSE to Level 1 Critical, I can't imagine how painful that would be.
i feel this mans pain. when i played the kh's franchise after 15+ years i attempted to try and beat kh3 on proud and it was pure suffering but the game was overall fun sadly i had died nearly 500 times before beating the game since the last time i played the games was back when kh1 had come out and i loved that game to death as a kid
Hats off to you folks. I battled Sephiroth once in KH1, twice in KH2, Xemnas once in KH1 and Data Marluxia once in KH3... never beat um... just said "nope..." and continued on.
Yo, this takes me back. Debugged Data Roxas was a pain. I accidentally discovered it while to 100% the game on my DS Lite. I was very unprepared for what was coming cuz I just thought of it as another sector to loot. Days were spent trying to figure out the best ways to reorganize the Stat Matrix and what keyblade to use. Died dozens of times, but eventually made it out with the win. Ever since then, I've always wanted an HD remade of Re:Coded and other Re:Coded type games for the other journals Jiminy wrote, Roxas' diary and even Sora's gummi phone.
It has been a LONG time since I did this so I might have the details wrong, but if you put your DS into sleep mode and do not encounter another player after 10 minutes or so, it gives you a free balloon. I did this MANY times so I don't think it was subject to the "one balloon per preset avitar" rule. I don't remember if I ever beat data riku, I was doing it trying to get all 99 Dalmatians off the scratch cards.
Ugh, I remember that hassle... I was playing on an actual NDS, and had to rig up my PC to broadcast the signal for my NDS to pick up so I could get those Debug Dungeons. And I had to keep refreshing things so it was constantly detecting the computer as a different DS. That was hell.
for re-coded the recommended level requirement is more stat based than actual level 1 lvup chip on the status board gives 1lv 1 strength 1 magic 1 defence and i dont remember how much hp however the game lets you swap out chips whenever you want and if you replace all your level chips with +8 stat chips you can have max stats while being considered lv 1.
One point about the Riku fight. You don't actually need to obtain 100 floors from other players, as every 10th floor is unlocked automatically once you unlock the preceding floor. You need only 90 balloon letters to unlock the boss. Also, you don't TECHNICALLY need a second DS unit at all. You can actually simply leave the game set to receive balloons and every so often the game will generate a completely random avatar (or else simply a fixed one) with only the name and catchphrase preprogrammed. It's random when you'll get one though, so you can get stuck waiting for over an hour or longer. I have accomplished this and it was time consuming to pull off. I have generally found Riku easier than Roxas in this game, but it's been a while so i don't recall if that applied to their bugged versions as well.
i got to floor 100 and debug data riku as a kid. i'd leave my DSI on overnight and collect the balloons (once the Square Enix ref's are gone random ones come, like, every 2/3 hours) and eventually got to floor 100 the strategy is Magnega + Exo Spark, also using Ultima Weapon, Zone of Ruin, and Muscle Strike to 1-shot harder enemies there's floor objectives like, "Kill an Eliminator" and i'd run behind it, muscle strike, run, then repeat also i was lvl 99 and had every achievement chip... i think i spent 2-3 hours getting to lvl 100, it was a painful, monotonous grind
Just so you know you didn't have to pass other people to use avatar mode. As long as you had the wireless active and left the ds in sleep mode you could get the floor balloons yourself while you slept or did other things so I did 100 percent this game when I had it
There are actually 2 more secret Bosses which probably even less people know about. I beat all the Re:Coded Bosses and just figured this out in my level 1 streams. There are actually in Days Mission Mode Anti Saix and Anti Riku as Bosses. They don't really change much except for looking like heartless versions of them and having no audio quotes and more HP and Damage. Also Xion in Mission mode is way harder then in the Story or Challenge Mode. And btw I did Glitch Riku without a second Emulator. I didn't even knew this was possible. But the balloons appear anyway after around 3 to 12 hours comes one after another.
Aside from Bugged Roxas, two other secret bosses nobody talks about are the Anti fights from 358/2. In Mission Mode, Anti/Heartless versions of Saix and Riku can be fought, replacing their original fights from the base game, and they’re a good deal harder than their counterparts.
Aww man this video is making me wanna finish recoded and this comment makes me wanna start up another days playthrough lol.
I remember fighting those when I had 358/2 days. I never beat the secret heartless battle at the front of the Twilight Town clock tower.
@@BlueTurn Good
@@Hulk1566 Pretty sure you’re referring to the giant dragon one, and if so, I completely understand
I remember those anti fights. I always loved beating up Saix in the story so fighting an anti form was nice to. Sad I rarely see anyone fight them on here
You'd think after like the 5th attempt of getting bodied by guys 31 levels ahead of you, you'd go back and train up lol
I would argue that the hardest boss in Recoded is the camera.
Ocarina of Time players are used to this
The secret boss that always sticks with me is Phantom from the original game. That thing actually caused me physical pain. The night after I discovered him, I had a nightmare where he was floating outside my room carrying a huge scythe. He doesn't have one in game, of course, though maybe he should. Anyway, in the nightmare, Phantom slashed me through the stomach with his scythe. The entire next day, I had intense psychosomatic stomach pains.
Wow, sounds like you became Sora's vessel.
Watch anime re:creators, it has similar plot (story)
Funny enough, the one with the scythe is Marluxia XD
@@nathanosworth4640 I loved his fight in KH Re: CoM. The third phase caught me completely off guard.
My 9 year old self came across this when I learned of the secret ending when turning all Dalmatians in. Seeing as back then, there was much to look up online, I used the game guide I got with it as well, and when I went back for the chest at the clock tower, I was met with this boss, which made little me give up on the ending until years later
For the avatar menu I remember if you just left it idle for many hours, eventually balloons would spawn on their own. That was how I did it years ago. Getting to floor 100 was like a week long process.
This video brings back memories. I haven't thought about these fights in a long time. It also reminds me how much of a nightmare the secret ending was to unlock. You had to get most of the in game trophies.
I did that to try and get the dalmatians. Went from about 17 to 70 after a long time of the DS staying idle and checking it at least before bed... Then one day I turned the game off to do something else and found out that it didn't automatically save after balloons, so lost all those dogs and avatar parts, and never started the game since.
I used the Nintendo Channel on the wii to get most floors and my brother helped the first few
I litrally looked at the comments just to see if someone posted this. I would have my ds out on tag mode all day to collect random spawn balloons as no one I knew played. I think I timed it to be about every 15 mins to half an hour a balloon would spawn
I have this game, but the only thing I remember was reaching the area where I was able to fight alongside Cloud... I got my ass handed to me SO BADLY, I gave up on it completely. Haven't touched this game out of frustration for a good 5 years.
Fun fact: I feared the Eliminator so much as a kid that he gave me nightmares about his encounter. and the system sector battle theme gives me PTSD thanks to him.
You are not alone dear friend.
That’s not a fun fact 😭
Data Riku in Re:Coded. Floor 100 in the Avatar Menu. Bought a separate copy and a separate DS to experience it. 6 hours to progress to the 100th in one go😂. A lot of people know about the Data Roxas Fight, but not about the Data Riku fight locked behind the Avatar Menu.
Yeah the Data Roxas fight seemed like something any completionist would come across. Probably never talked about cause very few people played Re:coded relative to the other games. Though I just about expected the Data Riku fight's unlock condition to be something near impossible to do if you live in the US. "Streetpass" stuff. Fortunately The world ends with you took the fact that we live metric miles away from the next living person, let alone who has the same game as us and made it far easier to farm the required pin XP solo so you could still 100% the game. Just took a lot of waiting and AFKing but those UFOs that give you the streetpass pin XP gives you 100 in the US version, which easiliy levels up most pins with that method (Japan's version only got 20 per UFO and the UFOs were significantly rarer).
If you think getting the Streetpass to work in the US is bad, imagine being in Europe lmao
They also did think ahead with Recoded though! If you have your console in sleep mode while Tag Mode is open, the game will generate a couple of random floors for you after a few hours - with patience, you can fill out the entire 100 floors with only one console and one copy!
@@-memoria-2136 That's what I did! Didn't know you could do it in sleep mode, though, that would've saved me some time.
I'll never not love Lingering Will as a secret boss. It was satisfying to finally best him.
Firaga a spell I would not normally use came in clutch.
congrats that final phase dm always has my heart rushing
He was actually fun to fight. He is my favorite hands down.
Suggested level 80
Goes in at 49
"Oh No GaMe HaRd" le funny screaming and death montage
I’m a massive ff15 fan and i delved deep into versus 13 before playing kh3. Seeing yozora in toybox then again in the secret ending had peaked my intrigue and god loading into yozora and instantly getting bodied left me speechless. His fighting style , cinematics and dms ooze a new beginning for the next saga. The cherry on the top was Yokos ost. A secret boss I hold dear to my heart and will never forget
If memory serves, the Roxas secret fight is a precursor to obtain the Ultima Weapon. Though I could be wrong
It is you need to get enough points in the sector to claim it lol so its not a guarantee you get it
@@Jonathan-us1qu [Laughs in Judgement Triad]
@@gagejoseph91 lol that move was so broken
@gagejoseph91 it's really not that good, it can whiff. Triple pursuit is better in everyway
@@CursedKeyblade1 "It can whiff", he says lol
I did remember fighting Debugged Data Roxas years ago as beating him and that System Sector with enough SP was the only way to get the Ultima Weapon in this game. But I have no idea how anyone was able to find Debugged Data Riku casually since it was locked behind a non-StreetPass mode. They both looked incredibly hard, but it might’ve been a bit more manageable when you’re at the proper level.
it was actually pretty easy, you just needed to go into the mode, where you could connect with other, wait a while and after some time randomly generated avatars would appear and give you access to the data sector
There's 100 floors, and you automatically get a "boss floor" every 10, so you really only need to get 90 floors.
With that being said, the preset balloons appear from ANY DS signal. this includes wireless modes from other games, gamestop demos, and wii ds demo download channel. It only works once per signal, which means you'll have to stop sending demo signal, or just exit and re-enter multiplayer mode on your other ds game. Odds are you don't have control over gamestop demos, so sucks to be you. but the wii ds demo downloads channel was free and unlimited use.
And when you run out of preset balloons, you can actually get fully randomized "pity balloons" that show up just from having the balloons screen up long enough. all the preset avatars have pre-determined accessories, floors, quotes, names, and challenges. but the pity balloons give you completely random results, and the game will never stop giving them to you, but they are super slow.
There was a way to cheese it. Of you have a second DS and any other game with wireless connectivity(I used a madagascar game I think), Re:coded will mistakingly pick it up.(Because this obviously does not yield any valid data, Re:coded instead generates one of the random floors mentioned above). You cannot do it infinitely in a row because there seemes to be a connectivity cap in the game, but it is enough to help reach floor 100 semi-easily.
I remember playing this as a kid just watching him have this challenge makes me feel valid I think that's also how you unlock the old last keyblade in the game but you have to get everything perfect
Also I've played on the DS me and my best friend grinded for days to get a hundred floors we would like oh my God that was a crash to do
Actually, I found a totally different method to unlock Data Riku when I was revisiting the game a couple years ago! I love this game - it was my first Kingdom Hearts game, actually - and after beating Data Roxas (which was a bit easier knowing Main Roxas' attack patterns and all the data effects - red data Roxas was terrifying with context), I wanted to try and complete my 100 floor sector. What I discovered online? If I left my 3DS on the "waiting for a balloon" screen for about *two hours*, a randomly-generated balloon appears! No other person needed. It took weeks and weeks of afk-ing my 3DS and bringing it to school to get the AI-generated characters necessary, but I did eventually get to fight Data Riku! I had an advantage with the Ultima, but it was still an incredibly fun challenge.
The true final boss that nobody talks about: Defeating Anti-Debug Tetsuya Nomura.
How to unlock this: Dive into Tetsuya Nomura's heart, through the use of an IRL Keyblade.
You're not a true Keyblade Master, until you've defeated it.
Fun fact for Lingering Will: If you unequip all combo abilities and just jump and swing once, he gets stun locked. Its kinda hilarious.
I beat Data Roxas but never knew about Data Riku since I didn’t know anyone else that had the game. Re: Coded was ahead of its time imo. It had fun challenges like this and multiple different gameplay styles for the worlds that kept me on my toes
Dude that command deck the save file gave you was criminally not suited to beating those floors
Having triple pursuit, judgment triad, eruption, etc. would've helped a ton
Ye especially since he's using Olympia and not a maxed zero one
I used faith + round block + clock charge ability.
“This is even more frightening, I fear…” Debugged Data Roxas done broke my guy’s mind back to a classical novelist.
Ill give it to ya, ive been a fan of the game since the day it came out,played most of the games over and over, but this was the only kingdom hearts game i skipped. And now i must play it on my pc, and also yes i have never heard of these bosses. Well done brother
didn't realize both of these were secret bosses and i just ran thru them all when i first had the game. luckily i had brothers who played their own versions so we were all able to just change the avatar menu but i was also able to bring my DS around and got the balloons thru that so i never thought it was anything unusual.
I remember doing this. Had to switch to the Oblivion keyblade and make use of that auto-block combined with the all-round block accessory to get by. It's insanely useful against Bugged Riku's dark aura attack.
Re:Coded is suffering every single second of the way. I remember beating it. Realizing I had 40 levels to gain for the post and gave up
So, the thing with the NFC connection is that you weren't connecting to your Days DS, but that after a while, random characters would pop up. This was by design for those that may not have friends with the game to pass by, so you could still get Avatar Parts and dungeon floors even by yourself.
Though I'm sure his way was faster, but more tedious. Lol.
I certainly didn't know about these fights. Might replay-recoded for debugged roxas, but I'm not even gonna attempt that 100 floor stuff. Though the technology behind it is crazy.
Fun fact: the avatar mode has a feature where if you wait I believe roughly 5 to 10 minutes, the balloon will spawn for those who couldn't find anyone with a copy. It was how I got my 100 floors, I fought debug Roxas and debug Riku, Riku was easier than Roxas.
Honestly Re:coded was my favorite game for a really long time, the 50 floors in Olympus was super fun, I remember being so close to getting every trophy, but that last thing I needed was a singular command, but before I could ever unlock that command, both my DSi and copy of the game stopped working, and now tragically the copy sits in the DS holder for memories sake. So many memories, almost like a Chain of memories
When the game came out I unlocked several floors since you can also get the Square Enix avatars by connecting to a Wii but I ran into the problem you did where I got them all so I had no idea floor 100 had a secret boss. Since I stopped getting balloons I thought I had everything so great find and dedication!
How did you connect it with the Wii?
@@novateel6037 I don't have the systems nearby to test, but i think there was an option in the Mii Channel to connect to a DS locally and it would act like in the video where a Square Enix avatar would be sent
@@novateel6037 The wii had an app on it i think was called the Nintendo channel where trailers and commercials for then upcoming games would be posted, the channel also had DLC for certain DS games available so im assuming thats how he did it
My favorite, is the one in days where one mission in twilight town you have to defeat 6 separate giant heartless and before leaving for the castle, a final even tougher boss pops up, the dustflier. This thing was tough especially taking into account the fact you have to take down the other six enemies before even unlocking it. It was tough but fun.
It was also a god-tier *TANK* with a health or defense stat pulled straight from the gods. You're either critting him or dealing chip damage.
Dustflier is a boss that I still refer to, to this day, as 'if Kingdom Hearts had made a The Floor is Lava difficulty.' Iirc I was doing it on Proud at the time (I don't think Critical was a thing in Days) and hoo boy that dude. He isn't hard. Just time consuming, because of how his attacks worked (the shockwaves and the fireballs) and how nuts his defense was. I recall jacking my crit chance up as high as it could go and using a weapon that hit as many times in a short span as I could to give me as many crit procs as possible since crits ignore defense.
18:09 "ohp, he's got yellow face" 😂
imagine the ultimate finale you'd have to face both of them LMAO.
This is the most entertaining Kingdom Hearts video I've ever seen. I am so sorry that many a time I laughed at your pain and suffering. I think once I'm finished this video I'm going to see what other videos you have! :D (busting a gut over here! omgggg)
With the Eliminator, whenever they showed up during my first playthrough when I was... I wanna say 12? I was friggin terrified. They followed you from room to room, dealt way too much damage, and I could never beat them.
I just would guard and freeze them right after following with judgement triad and it would destroy them
The Bugged bosses are a nightmare to reach and defeat. This is made even harder if you try to complete the wager challenges each floor offers. I think I spent days, maybe week just grinding to level 100, experimenting with different commands. I remember using Triple Pursuit and Judgment Triad a lot.
Omg the back in business with sora donald and goofy hopping around you are such a good editor.
Why is my head canon with Debugged Data Roxas is that’s what you get when you mix Roxas and Zion’s data into one boss?
Props to you man for even getting to the Debugged Data Riku tho definitely takes the cake for hardest Riku fight ever
There's also the Avatar Matrix, and that one has its own Final Boss, but getting there is...
Getting there is...
... no.
I played Kingdom Hearts Re:coded when I was younger and loved it for the fun game mechanics. I was really upset when they turned it into a cutscene movie for the remix.
Out the many secret bosses in the series I think the most out there one was Julius. Not only he’s a reference to a short that Disney tries to shove under the rug but it’s the only way to get the Ultima Weapon in Dream Drop Distance.
10:08 Thats exactly what i said when i saw this move for the first time in my run as well although it was on the actual ds itself and i was young
Man’s really tight he could go from barely playing the game to doing the hardest part at only level 50
Me(a re:coded fan): *sees the thumbnail* immediately knows which boss hes talking about and how to get there
Man, I remember doing this way back when Re:Coded came out and having that same exact situation with the corrupted Wizard. Absolute nightmare of a challenge.
I know this is meant to be about the secret Roxas/Riku fights but man, I can't get enough of the Eliminator segments lmao, they truly encapsulate the Recoded experience.
I went against the debugged riki and roxas it was a challenge but I was lucky I had 6 friends that were a huge KH fans and we always brought our DS's to lunch in school. We all got to the fights just by us being around each other and always changing our avatars once we got new features. Seeing all this footage just took me back to being a teenager and talking boss strategies in between classes and lunch. Thank you for that.
Re:Coded is my favorite game of the franchise and I had no idea those bosses were there. Great video, thank you.
I had a feeling I knew what bosses you were talking about, but I didn't realize Re:Coded didn't sell that well. I owned, played, and beat the DS version, and though I knew about these bosses, I never faced them because I could never get enough floors with the Street Pass system, because you had to sit there, keeping an eye on it to pop the balloons as they came, you couldn't just leave it be.
EDIT: Nevermind, I didn't know about that special debug sector, I thought it was the bugged Data Riku and Bugged Data Roxas you get from doing 50 floors and 100 floors respectively for the Street Pass.
I had no idea these two bosses were that secret. I learned right away that you want to have Oathkeeper equipped when going up against enemies who love inflicting status ailments on you. You can survive Eliminators MUCH easier that way.
This was literally enjoyable to watch lmao! Suffering is content but the fact you forgot about mysterious figure is the icing on the cake because THAT DUNGEON WAS LITERALLY MADE BY THE SAME PEOPLE WHO CODED(lol pun intended) MYSTERIOUS FIGURE! That's why the end game dungeon in coded was so fun for many of us ha ha! Anyways, love your content! Gonna sub and like
I made all of the HP 1 HP. It's one of the adjustments you can do and I killed everything in one hit, but if I remember right it didn't work on the debugged Roxas, so I just equipped a bunch of elixirs and then used my limit over and over.
My FIRST KH Game. A Classic in my book.
"no one knows about"
me, apparently the one re:coded defender in the entire fandom: lol
(i say that but i don't think i've ever bothered with avatar menu, i just know it exists)
found you while I was at work, been watching your kh videos to pass the time. As someone who played Re:coded on the ds, I lucked out, I spent almost a week riding the transit bus in portland to different parts of town. It was a slog, and riku and roxas took forever because my ds would start to overheat in the busier parts of games
4:57 Ah yes, that is the Eliminator. Skyward comparing it to the Persona Grim Reaper is very apt…mostly; while I know the GR appears from hanging around too long on one Tartarus/Mementos floor, I’m not entirely certain what summons the Eliminator, I think he might be scripted to show up in certain rooms when a floor is fully cleared. Still, super tough, causes all the status effects, you’re meant to just run…but like the Reaper, it’s so satisfying to take him down.
I knew about these. I actually liked Re:Coded and put a lot of hours into it. I found for the harder areas sometimes putting on the 1 HP setting actually helped getting to the bosses, I think I remember it working on the Eliminators.
For the first, I lost at the final phase and had to give up.
The second one, I used my brother's copy and DS to cheese getting to it, and actually beat it.
I thought we were going to talk about the Dustflier from Days, and that not a single person online seemed to have figured out that using shadows to proc static on it to delete a whole bar of health was a thing.
Wait what does proc static mean? I haven't played days in 15 years, i'm missing something?
@lawrenceriverside6659 The elemental spells proc debuffs on enemies in Days, like burning and frozen. The one from thunder causes enemies to be surrounded with static, and on colision with another enemy, they both take 10%hp damage.
The duskflier is immune to all of these statuses, but if the shadows that accompany it are hit with thunder, get the status, and then touch his tail, he loses like 10% of his hp which in that fight is WAAAY more damage than anything else can do.
@@OrbitalPulsar ok first: i forgot about the status ailments, that was so cool. Second: holy crap that's the best strategy i've ever heard, whoever came up with that is a genius
@@lawrenceriverside6659 literally teenage me by accident lmao
@@OrbitalPulsar a god among us humans
I don't think I ever knew about that secret area with debugged Roxas, and I certainly didn't know about the avatar stuff! Loved played this game as a kid, so thank you!
I'm glad to see others discovering these fights. So far I've not missed a single secret fight except any possibly in union cross as I didn't play that. They're all hard and fun and so satisfying when you get it.
I actually knew about this debug segment, it was a pain in the ass to beat. The avatar one I never knew about
I’ve never faced Debugged Data Roxas and had no idea the Riku one even existed. Great job on beating them both dude 👍
I remember stumbling upon Bugged Roxas when I was younger, didn't have much issue either so I imagine I either cheesed him or was closer to the recommended level, either way Re:Coded goes real nuts and while the story isn't great the game itself is amazing for the most part
I definitely remember trying to beat Bugged Roxas (Even with an action replay I couldn't do it) and I vaguely remember fighting Bugged Riku somehow too, but still could never beat either. May be time to bust the ol Ds out and try again!
So as someone who's obtained Ultima Weapon which requires beating all 13 floors wagering all you SP and not dieing once, this was hilarious, especially your reaction to the eliminator.
Judgement Triad is the best command deck ability in the game, and also you definitely should've either equipped some charms that stop statuses, or use Oathkeeper as it protects you from all status conditions with Undo at an overclock level 1, meaning you could equip other pieces of equipment.
And the yellow bugs suck to deal with lmao. Especially the Wizards
Re:Coded has like 5% story 95% nothing, but its combat is amazing. Also its very confusing from the perspective of somebody who started by playing Re:Coded. Guess seeing disney characters at a Walmart or Target or something caught my eye as a kid, and i wish I still had my copy.
Still need to beat the F100 boss tho someday, never focused for long enough to set it up
EDIT I DID IT A FEW DAYS AGO, TIP GET BOTH A DEFAULT AND 2ND COPY AVATAR EVERYTIME VIA USING 3 SYSTEMS, SAVES A LOT OF TIME.
Also the boss isn't that hard if you have a bunch of Judgement Triads and Oathkeeper Equipped with near max stats. Judgement Triad is that insane (also you need Cures obviously). Now I'm getting ready to do all 100 Floors in one run, yes im serious. If you want to get every trophy in Re:Coded, you need to get D-Blizzaga which requires having a huge amount of SP, let alone the fact that you unlock buying it by beating Data-Riku once. And if you die or fail the objective ONCE YOU RESTART
Always love seeing new kingdom hearts content that have been lost in time. Thank you very much
yelling im confused when your afflicted with confuse is hilarious
You're a trooper, dude. Digging through all of this abandonware to get to those bosses.
I totally forgot about those Monster Octopus custom avatars in Re: Coded. I remember having a blast exchanging avatars with my friends back in high school!
Re:Coded is my favourite handheld game out of the bunch and it’s sad it wasn’t re.. remastered for HD remasters.
This system sector was definitely a challenge and was content on obtaining the Ultima Weapon and other rewards after completing all challenges in one go without death.
The Re:Coded Ultima Weapon is still the worst keyblade of all time but I’m glad I got to obtain everything in it. Now Bugged System Riku.. I haven’t even gotten all floors and barely there.. I may need to grind for floors one day.
THAT RIKU JUGGLING SCENE, GAVE ME FLASHBACKS TO THE GBA VERSION OF ONE OF THE COM:RIKU FIGHTS.
This was a fun trip down memory lane with playing recoded back on my DS lite. that Debug data roxas fight was insane and required alot of youtube guides and game faqs, but the moment i saw that snake like one that you had to hit its head while getting stunned by its shock block body brought back memories! I should boot it up sometime!
The yeah science clip is so underrated bro. You are a mad genius. And so were the first people to synthesize methamphetamine.
I played the fuck out of re:coded and did all this stuff. I'm pretty sure that there were automatic balloons that popped up if you waited long enough. It took me so long as a kid. This game was honestly a treasure for me as a kid with how much hidden stuff there was. This vid unlocked so many memories for me honestly.
KH2 sephiroth is my all time favorite boss battle in games I think. KH series has tons of great secret bosses but kh2 sephi takes the cake. kh2 data battles are also some favs. crit mode and data battles really got me to learn KH2's battle system beyond mashing X. in other words I got good lmaoo still havent beat lingering will :') I refuse to just cheese the fight until i manage to beat it "fairly"
Re:Coded is my favorite KH game! It's deserves all the love from the world and it's a crime that only the cutscene are in the collection and I love the skilltree from the keyblades
I knew of one secret heartless shield boss you have to run away from in the multiplayer challenge version of the game, but one that is coming up recently that I never ran into, and thankfully never will since I lost my copy of the game, but apparently you fight a tougher data fight against Roxas?
Bro, the screaming edits in this video had me fucking rolling. Lol.
Something about "I CAN'T SEE" had me dddyyiinngg hahahaha
Im just revisiting your channel after a while and i forgot how funny you are lol time to head back to all the videos i missed lol
I've never yelled go level up at my phone before so you win the honor of getting me to do that.
I love how this is just a video showcasing your figurative and literal descent into madness
I was one of the few kids that 100% beat Recoded, and knew about those bosses. Seeing this brought me back to when Recoded first came out.
This was stuff in the game I never had any clue about. thank you for bringing it to light and sharing it with us :D
I hope we get a spiritual successor to this game one day. Preferably heavier in story.
Re:Coded was my first KH game and I vividly remember playing those floors and getting to the end as a kid
Dude 07:25-07:30 Freaking KILLS ME XDXDXD. Just a perfect add in edit lol
GOD you did not have to remind me of the hell and suffering I went through to get the Ultima Weapon in KHR:C, OOOOOF bro I remember it being really tough too. And you made your attempt underleveled too - that's crazy bro. I can't imagine being a kingdom hearts runner doing anything CLOSE to Level 1 Critical, I can't imagine how painful that would be.
i feel this mans pain. when i played the kh's franchise after 15+ years i attempted to try and beat kh3 on proud and it was pure suffering but the game was overall fun sadly i had died nearly 500 times before beating the game since the last time i played the games was back when kh1 had come out and i loved that game to death as a kid
Seriously? KH3 isn't even that hard on critical mode.
@@zanebaker3394 i was hella rusty i hadnt played in 15+ years since the last tim ei had played it was when i was like 4 or 5
Hats off to you folks. I battled Sephiroth once in KH1, twice in KH2, Xemnas once in KH1 and Data Marluxia once in KH3... never beat um... just said "nope..." and continued on.
Yo, this takes me back. Debugged Data Roxas was a pain. I accidentally discovered it while to 100% the game on my DS Lite. I was very unprepared for what was coming cuz I just thought of it as another sector to loot. Days were spent trying to figure out the best ways to reorganize the Stat Matrix and what keyblade to use. Died dozens of times, but eventually made it out with the win. Ever since then, I've always wanted an HD remade of Re:Coded and other Re:Coded type games for the other journals Jiminy wrote, Roxas' diary and even Sora's gummi phone.
Amazing! I knew about Buggy Data Roxas, but never knew about the Avatar Menu thing! Awesome!
It has been a LONG time since I did this so I might have the details wrong, but if you put your DS into sleep mode and do not encounter another player after 10 minutes or so, it gives you a free balloon. I did this MANY times so I don't think it was subject to the "one balloon per preset avitar" rule. I don't remember if I ever beat data riku, I was doing it trying to get all 99 Dalmatians off the scratch cards.
Holy crap, how was ANYONE supposed to beat this on a Nintendo DS!?
This is insane. Nice job man
Ugh, I remember that hassle...
I was playing on an actual NDS, and had to rig up my PC to broadcast the signal for my NDS to pick up so I could get those Debug Dungeons.
And I had to keep refreshing things so it was constantly detecting the computer as a different DS.
That was hell.
for re-coded the recommended level requirement is more stat based than actual level 1 lvup chip on the status board gives 1lv 1 strength 1 magic 1 defence and i dont remember how much hp however the game lets you swap out chips whenever you want and if you replace all your level chips with +8 stat chips you can have max stats while being considered lv 1.
One point about the Riku fight. You don't actually need to obtain 100 floors from other players, as every 10th floor is unlocked automatically once you unlock the preceding floor. You need only 90 balloon letters to unlock the boss.
Also, you don't TECHNICALLY need a second DS unit at all. You can actually simply leave the game set to receive balloons and every so often the game will generate a completely random avatar (or else simply a fixed one) with only the name and catchphrase preprogrammed. It's random when you'll get one though, so you can get stuck waiting for over an hour or longer.
I have accomplished this and it was time consuming to pull off. I have generally found Riku easier than Roxas in this game, but it's been a while so i don't recall if that applied to their bugged versions as well.
i got to floor 100 and debug data riku as a kid. i'd leave my DSI on overnight and collect the balloons (once the Square Enix ref's are gone random ones come, like, every 2/3 hours) and eventually got to floor 100
the strategy is Magnega + Exo Spark, also using Ultima Weapon, Zone of Ruin, and Muscle Strike to 1-shot harder enemies
there's floor objectives like, "Kill an Eliminator" and i'd run behind it, muscle strike, run, then repeat
also i was lvl 99 and had every achievement chip...
i think i spent 2-3 hours getting to lvl 100, it was a painful, monotonous grind
Just so you know you didn't have to pass other people to use avatar mode. As long as you had the wireless active and left the ds in sleep mode you could get the floor balloons yourself while you slept or did other things so I did 100 percent this game when I had it
Wow its been so long that I forgot about the NFC avatar feature needed to unlock 100 floors😯😲! That was pretty cool! Thanks for sharing this!
Honestly clicked on this with reservations and incredulous thoughts but to my surprise definitely bosses I've actually never encountered this was dope
This was mad cool, this kh content is awesome
There are actually 2 more secret Bosses which probably even less people know about. I beat all the Re:Coded Bosses and just figured this out in my level 1 streams. There are actually in Days Mission Mode Anti Saix and Anti Riku as Bosses. They don't really change much except for looking like heartless versions of them and having no audio quotes and more HP and Damage. Also Xion in Mission mode is way harder then in the Story or Challenge Mode.
And btw I did Glitch Riku without a second Emulator. I didn't even knew this was possible. But the balloons appear anyway after around 3 to 12 hours comes one after another.